Tories voice outrage over Travellers’ ‘slur’

Echo: Tories voice outrage over Travellers’ ‘slur’ Tories voice outrage over Travellers’ ‘slur’

A WAR of words has broken out between two sparring parties ahead of the council elections.

The ruling Tory administration on Basildon Council has accused its main opposition, Labour, of dirty tricks in its election leaflet for Laindon Park.

The leaflet says: “The Conservative council has announced proposals for new travellers’ sites in Pound Lane and Church Road.

Labour has made it clear we oppose this.”

However, Tories have called the claim an “outright lie”. In 2011, Basildon Council opposed an application from travellers for a 12-caravan pitch on the site, a decision that was upheld at a planning inquiry.

That decision was upheld by the Department of Communities and Local Government last year after it emerged travellers were looking to buy the land, which is owned by the Homes and Communities Agency.

Tories have called on their Labour counterparts to apologise, but the opposing party claim it was just a robust challenge of policies.

Tony Ball, leader of the council, whose Wickford North seat is up for grabs, said: “Where is the evidence?

“This is outrageous and an outright lie.

“They should withdraw this and apologise.”

However, the Labour Party’s leader, Nigel Smith, has hit back.

He said: “If the Conservatives are saying these plans are dead and buried, then good.

“In election campaigns, you can expect some pretty tough political debate.

“If Tony Ball and John Dornan want us to apologise, then tough.

“I want assurances from the chief executive that these plans are dead, not from the mouth of John Dornan.”

Campaigners against the 12- unit traveller pitch close to Church Lane handed in a 1,200- name petition against the plans in May 2011.

Basildon Council opposed the proposals, from ex-Dale Farm residents, and its decision was kept when the application went to a planning appeal.

Last year, fresh fears were raised after it emerged that the travellers had held discussions with the landowners with a view to buying the land, but the Communities and Local Government Minister finally quashed the plans behind closed doors. John Dornan, Tory councillor who is up for re-election in Laindon Park, said: “This is a complete fabrication and scaremongering.

“This borders on incitement to stir up racial hatred.”

* Candidates standing for election in Wickford North are Tony Ball (Conservative), Albert Adele (Labour) and Peter Holliman (Ukip).

* Candidates standing for election in Laindon Park are Francis Barnes-Challinor (Lib Dem), Lauren Brown (Labour), John Dornan (Conservative), Mark Ellis (Ukip), and Anthony Harms (National Front).

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10:10am Thu 8 May 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land? Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: -57

10:20am Thu 8 May 14

Eric the Red says...

Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers. Eric the Red
  • Score: 68

10:21am Thu 8 May 14

supermadmax says...

Grow up you idiots.
Grow up you idiots. supermadmax
  • Score: -21

10:26am Thu 8 May 14

Happy Chickie says...

I hope they duke it out fisticuffs. LOL
I hope they duke it out fisticuffs. LOL Happy Chickie
  • Score: 6

10:28am Thu 8 May 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

If you dont vote UKIP you only have yourself to blame
If you dont vote UKIP you only have yourself to blame LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 43

10:38am Thu 8 May 14

pembury53 says...

a simple but sad truth, worth remembering when it comes to politics..... it's the lies that get them elected...
a simple but sad truth, worth remembering when it comes to politics..... it's the lies that get them elected... pembury53
  • Score: 23

10:40am Thu 8 May 14

Alekhine says...

Happy Chickie wrote:
I hope they duke it out fisticuffs. LOL
I hope they both lose.
[quote][p][bold]Happy Chickie[/bold] wrote: I hope they duke it out fisticuffs. LOL[/p][/quote]I hope they both lose. Alekhine
  • Score: 8

10:45am Thu 8 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

It's the pot calling the kettle black here. They are as bad as each other.

Stop all the fighting for leadership of the ale and pies club and start serving those whom you represent.
It's the pot calling the kettle black here. They are as bad as each other. Stop all the fighting for leadership of the ale and pies club and start serving those whom you represent. Howard Cháse
  • Score: 19

10:58am Thu 8 May 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

they are all just a bunch of kids when it comes down to it, maybe Ukip will give them a kick up the rear end.
they are all just a bunch of kids when it comes down to it, maybe Ukip will give them a kick up the rear end. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 26

11:05am Thu 8 May 14

Mattster says...

Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations. Mattster
  • Score: 46

12:09pm Thu 8 May 14

beverman says...

This is all Labour have.... petty and childish.
UKIP are a weak alternative....My vote is blue.
This is all Labour have.... petty and childish. UKIP are a weak alternative....My vote is blue. beverman
  • Score: -25

12:20pm Thu 8 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

I hereby award Nigel Smith this year's Gold Pot and Kettle Award, in fact, no, make it platinum.. I've been monitoring the activities of him and his crew on the doorsteps of Basildon. via feedback. They are running round like headless chickens making all sorts of wild claims about the Tories and UKIP and generally peeing off their core voters, many of whom are now going to vote UKIP:.

I have seen some of the current Labour election literature that is circulating and I have to say I've never seen such drivel in all my life. You couldn't make it up? They can. And it's such an absurd yarn you have to wonder who writes this BS. I have my suspicions, especially as it's somebody who fancies himself as a writer and researcher but who, judging by his Twitter page, is utterly useless at both.

For a start anybody even remotely associated with Dale Farm will remember how the Labour group consistently voted in favour of the travellers in countless council meetings. So the codswallop about them opposing traveller sites is just smoke and mirrors. Anybody who believes that seriously needs their head examined.

In fact, so vehement was their support for the Dale Farm set up that anyone who raised a dissenting voice was labelled a racist bigot. I don't believe for one minute that the Labour group will oppose any Traveller development, not with their previous track record. They are convincing nobody. They will do the exact opposite.

The absolute tosh they are circulating about UKIP is totally preposterous. I think they've lost their marbles. What with Callaghan running round upsetting even his own group members so bad they go independent, ranting and raving at members of the public, gesticulating at them, shouting down his betters and tweeting preposterous whoppers on his Twitter page, the whole Labour thing now resembles a circus.

It seems that Nigel Smith and his dwindling band of supporters are on the back foot and panicking, if the response on doorsteps and in the polls is anything to go by. I hope that long-standing Labour supporters will once and for all see their true colours.Many already have and have switched their allegiance.

The majority of bad decisions regarding travellers were down to Labour's wholehearted support of this illegal development with absolutely no regard or concessions made to the settled community.

And some of us paid a price for this we will never forget.

I am not surprised Nigel Smith will not apologise to the Tories. Having seen the recent spectacle made by Callaghan and co in council meetings and on Twitter - especially with reference to the numerous standards board complaints that were issued none of this is a surprise to anyone who has seen the Labour group in action.

Having witnessed their performance and antics in council meetings I have to say that this situation comes as absolutely no surprise whatsoever to those of us who have had to witness them.

Callaghan is another example of the lack of humility and respect within this bunch - he wouldn't apologise properly to Cllr Phil Rackley. He continues to rant and rave on social networking sites and seems to have a total disregard for the fact that as a PPC he should be showing some kind of maturity, dignity and respect.

This whole sorry shower are going to get a severe kicking on 22nd May and no amount of strutting their stuff around Basildon printing and tweeting hate campaigns about their opponents will make one iota of difference.

Actually I take that back, it IS making a difference because from what I have heard and seen with my own ears and eyes so far is that they are by far the best recruiting sergeant and vote-winner for UKIP I have ever seen.

In fact, the more they rant, rave and lie their way around Basildon, the more UKIP voters there will be.

What a circus they are making of themselves. Grab a ringside seat and watch.. Oh and if you see any of their leaflets, they make great linings for your hamster cage. Just the right size.

Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent too.
I hereby award Nigel Smith this year's Gold Pot and Kettle Award, in fact, no, make it platinum.. I've been monitoring the activities of him and his crew on the doorsteps of Basildon. via feedback. They are running round like headless chickens making all sorts of wild claims about the Tories and UKIP and generally peeing off their core voters, many of whom are now going to vote UKIP:. I have seen some of the current Labour election literature that is circulating and I have to say I've never seen such drivel in all my life. You couldn't make it up? They can. And it's such an absurd yarn you have to wonder who writes this BS. I have my suspicions, especially as it's somebody who fancies himself as a writer and researcher but who, judging by his Twitter page, is utterly useless at both. For a start anybody even remotely associated with Dale Farm will remember how the Labour group consistently voted in favour of the travellers in countless council meetings. So the codswallop about them opposing traveller sites is just smoke and mirrors. Anybody who believes that seriously needs their head examined. In fact, so vehement was their support for the Dale Farm set up that anyone who raised a dissenting voice was labelled a racist bigot. I don't believe for one minute that the Labour group will oppose any Traveller development, not with their previous track record. They are convincing nobody. They will do the exact opposite. The absolute tosh they are circulating about UKIP is totally preposterous. I think they've lost their marbles. What with Callaghan running round upsetting even his own group members so bad they go independent, ranting and raving at members of the public, gesticulating at them, shouting down his betters and tweeting preposterous whoppers on his Twitter page, the whole Labour thing now resembles a circus. It seems that Nigel Smith and his dwindling band of supporters are on the back foot and panicking, if the response on doorsteps and in the polls is anything to go by. I hope that long-standing Labour supporters will once and for all see their true colours.Many already have and have switched their allegiance. The majority of bad decisions regarding travellers were down to Labour's wholehearted support of this illegal development with absolutely no regard or concessions made to the settled community. And some of us paid a price for this we will never forget. I am not surprised Nigel Smith will not apologise to the Tories. Having seen the recent spectacle made by Callaghan and co in council meetings and on Twitter - especially with reference to the numerous standards board complaints that were issued none of this is a surprise to anyone who has seen the Labour group in action. Having witnessed their performance and antics in council meetings I have to say that this situation comes as absolutely no surprise whatsoever to those of us who have had to witness them. Callaghan is another example of the lack of humility and respect within this bunch - he wouldn't apologise properly to Cllr Phil Rackley. He continues to rant and rave on social networking sites and seems to have a total disregard for the fact that as a PPC he should be showing some kind of maturity, dignity and respect. This whole sorry shower are going to get a severe kicking on 22nd May and no amount of strutting their stuff around Basildon printing and tweeting hate campaigns about their opponents will make one iota of difference. Actually I take that back, it IS making a difference because from what I have heard and seen with my own ears and eyes so far is that they are by far the best recruiting sergeant and vote-winner for UKIP I have ever seen. In fact, the more they rant, rave and lie their way around Basildon, the more UKIP voters there will be. What a circus they are making of themselves. Grab a ringside seat and watch.. Oh and if you see any of their leaflets, they make great linings for your hamster cage. Just the right size. Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent too. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 18

12:53pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim
2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim profondo asbo
  • Score: 8

1:16pm Thu 8 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like.

Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile.

As for being subject to the same laws, dream on...

:P
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like. Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile. As for being subject to the same laws, dream on... :P Kim Gandy
  • Score: 20

1:23pm Thu 8 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years.

Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all.

And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it.

You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded.

Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings.

You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like.

You are playing right into my hands.

Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not.

Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 10

1:46pm Thu 8 May 14

Deadjim says...

So everyone is against traveller sites in Laindon.

Where do the various political parties stand on the eviction of travellers parked on the roadside on land they do not own in Oak Lane ,Crays Hill ?
So everyone is against traveller sites in Laindon. Where do the various political parties stand on the eviction of travellers parked on the roadside on land they do not own in Oak Lane ,Crays Hill ? Deadjim
  • Score: 13

1:49pm Thu 8 May 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
Not attacking. Where is the money coming from?

Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.[/p][/quote]Not attacking. Where is the money coming from? Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: 12

1:54pm Thu 8 May 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

profondo asbo wrote:
2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim
Ooooo i say....
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: 2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim[/p][/quote]Ooooo i say.... DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 8

2:18pm Thu 8 May 14

Alekhine says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
Not attacking. Where is the money coming from? Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it
I wonder if it would have been a cash deal?
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.[/p][/quote]Not attacking. Where is the money coming from? Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it[/p][/quote]I wonder if it would have been a cash deal? Alekhine
  • Score: 7

4:13pm Thu 8 May 14

the25man says...

Worst thing that ever happened was to bring Party Politics into Local Councils.
The Councils should be run by a voted Councillor local to the area and not what Party he belongs to. In fact Parties should be band for local issues.
Let each Councillor vote for what his neighbours want not what is a Policy by others.
Worst thing that ever happened was to bring Party Politics into Local Councils. The Councils should be run by a voted Councillor local to the area and not what Party he belongs to. In fact Parties should be band for local issues. Let each Councillor vote for what his neighbours want not what is a Policy by others. the25man
  • Score: 9

4:23pm Thu 8 May 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Why don't they move next door to you?
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Why don't they move next door to you? Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 10

4:25pm Thu 8 May 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

supermadmax wrote:
Grow up you idiots.
Look in the mirror mup it
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Grow up you idiots.[/p][/quote]Look in the mirror mup it Living the La Vida Legra
  • Score: 7

7:22pm Thu 8 May 14

John T Pharro says...

beverman wrote:
This is all Labour have.... petty and childish.
UKIP are a weak alternative....My vote is blue.
Judging by the thumbs up Dogsamessing got for supporting UKIP the Tories fall into this description as well.
[quote][p][bold]beverman[/bold] wrote: This is all Labour have.... petty and childish. UKIP are a weak alternative....My vote is blue.[/p][/quote]Judging by the thumbs up Dogsamessing got for supporting UKIP the Tories fall into this description as well. John T Pharro
  • Score: 5

7:51pm Thu 8 May 14

Nebs says...

the25man wrote:
Worst thing that ever happened was to bring Party Politics into Local Councils.
The Councils should be run by a voted Councillor local to the area and not what Party he belongs to. In fact Parties should be band for local issues.
Let each Councillor vote for what his neighbours want not what is a Policy by others.
Yes.
[quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: Worst thing that ever happened was to bring Party Politics into Local Councils. The Councils should be run by a voted Councillor local to the area and not what Party he belongs to. In fact Parties should be band for local issues. Let each Councillor vote for what his neighbours want not what is a Policy by others.[/p][/quote]Yes. Nebs
  • Score: 6

8:10pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf? ThisYear
  • Score: -28

8:14pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as? ThisYear
  • Score: -23

8:14pm Thu 8 May 14

hothead says...

Typical Labour hypocrisy - it was them that let the travelers all into Bowers Gifford and gave them all planning permission in the greenbelt!
Typical Labour hypocrisy - it was them that let the travelers all into Bowers Gifford and gave them all planning permission in the greenbelt! hothead
  • Score: 11

8:16pm Thu 8 May 14

hothead says...

Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Are you for real? did you not see what happened at Dale Farm.

The real problems are caused by the ridiculous Human Rights Euro Laws that the loony left signed us up to!
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? did you not see what happened at Dale Farm. The real problems are caused by the ridiculous Human Rights Euro Laws that the loony left signed us up to! hothead
  • Score: 7

8:18pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
I hereby award Nigel Smith this year's Gold Pot and Kettle Award, in fact, no, make it platinum.. I've been monitoring the activities of him and his crew on the doorsteps of Basildon. via feedback. They are running round like headless chickens making all sorts of wild claims about the Tories and UKIP and generally peeing off their core voters, many of whom are now going to vote UKIP:.

I have seen some of the current Labour election literature that is circulating and I have to say I've never seen such drivel in all my life. You couldn't make it up? They can. And it's such an absurd yarn you have to wonder who writes this BS. I have my suspicions, especially as it's somebody who fancies himself as a writer and researcher but who, judging by his Twitter page, is utterly useless at both.

For a start anybody even remotely associated with Dale Farm will remember how the Labour group consistently voted in favour of the travellers in countless council meetings. So the codswallop about them opposing traveller sites is just smoke and mirrors. Anybody who believes that seriously needs their head examined.

In fact, so vehement was their support for the Dale Farm set up that anyone who raised a dissenting voice was labelled a racist bigot. I don't believe for one minute that the Labour group will oppose any Traveller development, not with their previous track record. They are convincing nobody. They will do the exact opposite.

The absolute tosh they are circulating about UKIP is totally preposterous. I think they've lost their marbles. What with Callaghan running round upsetting even his own group members so bad they go independent, ranting and raving at members of the public, gesticulating at them, shouting down his betters and tweeting preposterous whoppers on his Twitter page, the whole Labour thing now resembles a circus.

It seems that Nigel Smith and his dwindling band of supporters are on the back foot and panicking, if the response on doorsteps and in the polls is anything to go by. I hope that long-standing Labour supporters will once and for all see their true colours.Many already have and have switched their allegiance.

The majority of bad decisions regarding travellers were down to Labour's wholehearted support of this illegal development with absolutely no regard or concessions made to the settled community.

And some of us paid a price for this we will never forget.

I am not surprised Nigel Smith will not apologise to the Tories. Having seen the recent spectacle made by Callaghan and co in council meetings and on Twitter - especially with reference to the numerous standards board complaints that were issued none of this is a surprise to anyone who has seen the Labour group in action.

Having witnessed their performance and antics in council meetings I have to say that this situation comes as absolutely no surprise whatsoever to those of us who have had to witness them.

Callaghan is another example of the lack of humility and respect within this bunch - he wouldn't apologise properly to Cllr Phil Rackley. He continues to rant and rave on social networking sites and seems to have a total disregard for the fact that as a PPC he should be showing some kind of maturity, dignity and respect.

This whole sorry shower are going to get a severe kicking on 22nd May and no amount of strutting their stuff around Basildon printing and tweeting hate campaigns about their opponents will make one iota of difference.

Actually I take that back, it IS making a difference because from what I have heard and seen with my own ears and eyes so far is that they are by far the best recruiting sergeant and vote-winner for UKIP I have ever seen.

In fact, the more they rant, rave and lie their way around Basildon, the more UKIP voters there will be.

What a circus they are making of themselves. Grab a ringside seat and watch.. Oh and if you see any of their leaflets, they make great linings for your hamster cage. Just the right size.

Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent too.
Gandy pretending she has her finger on the pulse of the 'polls'

You were a non political councillor, you are shunned by all parties, even the extreme ones, and all you pretend is embarrassing to you and to us reading your fantasies...you have no feed back from anyone about whats happening on the doorsteps..fgs get a grip.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I hereby award Nigel Smith this year's Gold Pot and Kettle Award, in fact, no, make it platinum.. I've been monitoring the activities of him and his crew on the doorsteps of Basildon. via feedback. They are running round like headless chickens making all sorts of wild claims about the Tories and UKIP and generally peeing off their core voters, many of whom are now going to vote UKIP:. I have seen some of the current Labour election literature that is circulating and I have to say I've never seen such drivel in all my life. You couldn't make it up? They can. And it's such an absurd yarn you have to wonder who writes this BS. I have my suspicions, especially as it's somebody who fancies himself as a writer and researcher but who, judging by his Twitter page, is utterly useless at both. For a start anybody even remotely associated with Dale Farm will remember how the Labour group consistently voted in favour of the travellers in countless council meetings. So the codswallop about them opposing traveller sites is just smoke and mirrors. Anybody who believes that seriously needs their head examined. In fact, so vehement was their support for the Dale Farm set up that anyone who raised a dissenting voice was labelled a racist bigot. I don't believe for one minute that the Labour group will oppose any Traveller development, not with their previous track record. They are convincing nobody. They will do the exact opposite. The absolute tosh they are circulating about UKIP is totally preposterous. I think they've lost their marbles. What with Callaghan running round upsetting even his own group members so bad they go independent, ranting and raving at members of the public, gesticulating at them, shouting down his betters and tweeting preposterous whoppers on his Twitter page, the whole Labour thing now resembles a circus. It seems that Nigel Smith and his dwindling band of supporters are on the back foot and panicking, if the response on doorsteps and in the polls is anything to go by. I hope that long-standing Labour supporters will once and for all see their true colours.Many already have and have switched their allegiance. The majority of bad decisions regarding travellers were down to Labour's wholehearted support of this illegal development with absolutely no regard or concessions made to the settled community. And some of us paid a price for this we will never forget. I am not surprised Nigel Smith will not apologise to the Tories. Having seen the recent spectacle made by Callaghan and co in council meetings and on Twitter - especially with reference to the numerous standards board complaints that were issued none of this is a surprise to anyone who has seen the Labour group in action. Having witnessed their performance and antics in council meetings I have to say that this situation comes as absolutely no surprise whatsoever to those of us who have had to witness them. Callaghan is another example of the lack of humility and respect within this bunch - he wouldn't apologise properly to Cllr Phil Rackley. He continues to rant and rave on social networking sites and seems to have a total disregard for the fact that as a PPC he should be showing some kind of maturity, dignity and respect. This whole sorry shower are going to get a severe kicking on 22nd May and no amount of strutting their stuff around Basildon printing and tweeting hate campaigns about their opponents will make one iota of difference. Actually I take that back, it IS making a difference because from what I have heard and seen with my own ears and eyes so far is that they are by far the best recruiting sergeant and vote-winner for UKIP I have ever seen. In fact, the more they rant, rave and lie their way around Basildon, the more UKIP voters there will be. What a circus they are making of themselves. Grab a ringside seat and watch.. Oh and if you see any of their leaflets, they make great linings for your hamster cage. Just the right size. Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent too.[/p][/quote]Gandy pretending she has her finger on the pulse of the 'polls' You were a non political councillor, you are shunned by all parties, even the extreme ones, and all you pretend is embarrassing to you and to us reading your fantasies...you have no feed back from anyone about whats happening on the doorsteps..fgs get a grip. ThisYear
  • Score: -20

8:23pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like.

Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile.

As for being subject to the same laws, dream on...

:P
More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole...

Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel

After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to?

Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like. Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile. As for being subject to the same laws, dream on... :P[/p][/quote]More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole... Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to? Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims ThisYear
  • Score: -26

8:24pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim
Peas in a pod..each as stupid as the other..
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: 2 very enthusiastic thumbs up kim[/p][/quote]Peas in a pod..each as stupid as the other.. ThisYear
  • Score: -21

8:30pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years.

Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all.

And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it.

You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded.

Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings.

You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like.

You are playing right into my hands.

Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not.

Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
Where does the money come from Ga-Ga?

What does your feedback from the doorstep polls tell you?

What do they build on the land they buy? Can you say..if you cant doesn't that suggest your post is " a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all" and also 'clueless posting"

You are a complete dingbat and all who encourage you should be done for cruelty.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.[/p][/quote]Where does the money come from Ga-Ga? What does your feedback from the doorstep polls tell you? What do they build on the land they buy? Can you say..if you cant doesn't that suggest your post is " a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all" and also 'clueless posting" You are a complete dingbat and all who encourage you should be done for cruelty. ThisYear
  • Score: -24

8:32pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Living the La Vida Legra wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Why don't they move next door to you?
Oh god...here we have the nar nar nar nar nar level posts..grow up you stupid person.
[quote][p][bold]Living the La Vida Legra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Why don't they move next door to you?[/p][/quote]Oh god...here we have the nar nar nar nar nar level posts..grow up you stupid person. ThisYear
  • Score: -24

8:36pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

hothead wrote:
Typical Labour hypocrisy - it was them that let the travelers all into Bowers Gifford and gave them all planning permission in the greenbelt!
People, regardless of their culture, have the right to buy land, move onto the land and then apply for retro planning permission..ITS PERMISSIBLE!

Many people and companies do it..I've heard it said Tesco has done it more than once and even an airport company..
[quote][p][bold]hothead[/bold] wrote: Typical Labour hypocrisy - it was them that let the travelers all into Bowers Gifford and gave them all planning permission in the greenbelt![/p][/quote]People, regardless of their culture, have the right to buy land, move onto the land and then apply for retro planning permission..ITS PERMISSIBLE! Many people and companies do it..I've heard it said Tesco has done it more than once and even an airport company.. ThisYear
  • Score: -23

8:38pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

hothead wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Are you for real? did you not see what happened at Dale Farm.

The real problems are caused by the ridiculous Human Rights Euro Laws that the loony left signed us up to!
Im sure if the Human Rights Acts were rescinded many of those asking for that will find themselves soon wishing they were back in place...but its a moot point anyway...the HRA is going nowhere..regardless of who people vote for..
[quote][p][bold]hothead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? did you not see what happened at Dale Farm. The real problems are caused by the ridiculous Human Rights Euro Laws that the loony left signed us up to![/p][/quote]Im sure if the Human Rights Acts were rescinded many of those asking for that will find themselves soon wishing they were back in place...but its a moot point anyway...the HRA is going nowhere..regardless of who people vote for.. ThisYear
  • Score: -20

8:40pm Thu 8 May 14

Eric the Red says...

ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you. Eric the Red
  • Score: 25

8:52pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Eric the Red wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you.
Oh dear voting for yourself..I bet you have to do everything for yourself being such a lowlife as you are..

How about you comment on the "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers" who have filled the pages of this newspaper all this week?

Are they somehow special and should be ignored?

You insult a whole community and then cry about being insulted...you poor fragile butterfly.
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you.[/p][/quote]Oh dear voting for yourself..I bet you have to do everything for yourself being such a lowlife as you are.. How about you comment on the "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers" who have filled the pages of this newspaper all this week? Are they somehow special and should be ignored? You insult a whole community and then cry about being insulted...you poor fragile butterfly. ThisYear
  • Score: -30

8:54pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Eric the Red wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you.
Btw...would you care to point out your 'constructive' comments in your post?
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Ah ,Goebbels reappears to justify the activities of scum again. You are SO predictable. Nothing constructive to say, so you rely upon abusing other posters. I pity you.[/p][/quote]Btw...would you care to point out your 'constructive' comments in your post? ThisYear
  • Score: -21

9:01pm Thu 8 May 14

Blind Haze says...

So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?
So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it? Blind Haze
  • Score: 4

9:24pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

Blind Haze wrote:
So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?
Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?[/p][/quote]Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same. ThisYear
  • Score: -19

9:29pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
Blind Haze wrote:
So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?
Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same.
what's up...cat got your testicles?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?[/p][/quote]Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same.[/p][/quote]what's up...cat got your testicles? profondo asbo
  • Score: 16

9:35pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff. profondo asbo
  • Score: 14

9:51pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Blind Haze wrote:
So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?
Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same.
what's up...cat got your testicles?
Oh for the love of Ada...grow up you perpetual schoolboy (AND capitalise)
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: So, ThisYear - when's that game of pool you promised me (albeit 12-18 months ago)? I know you're not a drinker but I'm at Riley's/Route 66 on Sunday from about 5 and will give a best of 5 match for the princely sum of £20 if you're up for it?[/p][/quote]Events dictate my time...but even so best of 5 is not my way of things..Im more of a one game winner takes all chap. Thanks for the offer all the same.[/p][/quote]what's up...cat got your testicles?[/p][/quote]Oh for the love of Ada...grow up you perpetual schoolboy (AND capitalise) ThisYear
  • Score: -17

9:52pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you.. ThisYear
  • Score: -14

9:56pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you..[/p][/quote]what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt profondo asbo
  • Score: 16

9:57pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

The disgusting level politics in this country has sunk to!

Two heads of the same body (pretending to be different entities) fighting to say who oppresses a culture more than the other..

Id rather vote for a slavering rabid dog than either of these shitehawks (and no I dont mean Mr 'Faright' Farage)
The disgusting level politics in this country has sunk to! Two heads of the same body (pretending to be different entities) fighting to say who oppresses a culture more than the other.. Id rather vote for a slavering rabid dog than either of these shitehawks (and no I dont mean Mr 'Faright' Farage) ThisYear
  • Score: -22

9:59pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt
Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you..

An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you..[/p][/quote]what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt[/p][/quote]Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you.. An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation? ThisYear
  • Score: -13

10:00pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt
Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you..

An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?
*declined
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you..[/p][/quote]what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt[/p][/quote]Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you.. An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?[/p][/quote]*declined ThisYear
  • Score: -17

10:05pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt
Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you..

An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?
*declined
did you politely get on you back? i bet that wasn't the first time?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you..[/p][/quote]what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt[/p][/quote]Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you.. An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?[/p][/quote]*declined[/p][/quote]did you politely get on you back? i bet that wasn't the first time? profondo asbo
  • Score: 14

10:06pm Thu 8 May 14

profondo asbo says...

your
your profondo asbo
  • Score: 8

10:44pm Thu 8 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.
That says an awful lot abut you..
what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt
Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you..

An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?
*declined
did you politely get on you back? i bet that wasn't the first time?
Oh dear the freak is now moving onto sexual innuendo..get your clothes on and away from the window before someone calls the police.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: never seen so much bs compressed into 4 sentences in my entire puff.[/p][/quote]That says an awful lot abut you..[/p][/quote]what does it say...that i don't give bull sitters time of day? ok you got me. and yes i class you as a bull sitter for the removal of any doubt[/p][/quote]Only s****** on here at this present time seems to be you.. An offer was politely made to play pool, which was politely reclined and you get in a flap over it...what is it dumbnuts? You dont like fraternisation?[/p][/quote]*declined[/p][/quote]did you politely get on you back? i bet that wasn't the first time?[/p][/quote]Oh dear the freak is now moving onto sexual innuendo..get your clothes on and away from the window before someone calls the police. ThisYear
  • Score: -23

11:41pm Thu 8 May 14

smiffy22 says...

There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22 smiffy22
  • Score: 34

12:26am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
[quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed. ThisYear
  • Score: -31

7:47am Fri 9 May 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Yes, because insulting travellers is the same as committing mass-genocide isnt it? Idiot
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Yes, because insulting travellers is the same as committing mass-genocide isnt it? Idiot LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 18

8:50am Fri 9 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
My thumb is aching .....
[quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]My thumb is aching ..... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 12

8:54am Fri 9 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 23

9:03am Fri 9 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Are we Racist' for complaining about them moving onto land that they don't own, farmers fields, car parks, etc etc,leaving piles of shyte behind for somebody else to foot the bill to have it taken away? ...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Are we Racist' for complaining about them moving onto land that they don't own, farmers fields, car parks, etc etc,leaving piles of shyte behind for somebody else to foot the bill to have it taken away? ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 20

9:12am Fri 9 May 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation
Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 15

9:16am Fri 9 May 14

angryofessex says...

ThisYear (E Types, Last Laugh ex, wrote:
"Its racist scum like you who can’t win. This country rejects racism. Ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person. Thus racist toe rags like you are also rejected. And by the majority of your own community".
Game of race cards anyone?
Politicians play the same card as yourself and celebrities are simply self-serving.
Descent people (the vast majority) have had their views and concerns about the direction of their country stifled by allegations of racism. By the way, who and what are you to tell people to pack their bags and leave?
ThisYear (E Types, Last Laugh ex, wrote: "Its racist scum like you who can’t win. This country rejects racism. Ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person. Thus racist toe rags like you are also rejected. And by the majority of your own community". Game of race cards anyone? Politicians play the same card as yourself and celebrities are simply self-serving. Descent people (the vast majority) have had their views and concerns about the direction of their country stifled by allegations of racism. By the way, who and what are you to tell people to pack their bags and leave? angryofessex
  • Score: 14

9:16am Fri 9 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
'We live in a multicultural country'.... Yep, so it's just a shame they don't want to mix with anyone but their own. The idea is that we live in harmony working along side each other, farce of course, but they don't exactly help themselves by segregating their community to outsiders, act like lepers and you will be treated like one .. Abide by the rules of the land and there won't be a problem ..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]'We live in a multicultural country'.... Yep, so it's just a shame they don't want to mix with anyone but their own. The idea is that we live in harmony working along side each other, farce of course, but they don't exactly help themselves by segregating their community to outsiders, act like lepers and you will be treated like one .. Abide by the rules of the land and there won't be a problem .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 21

9:53am Fri 9 May 14

beverman says...

Stay true, vote BLUE.

Labour took this country to the brink of bankruptcy.... that is a fact.
Blair shook hands with Saddam, cuddled Gaddafi, released hundreds of convicted women and children murdering terrorists in Ireland, renaged on the promised referendum..... fact, fact, fact.

UKIP & Far right Farage is just a wasted non Labour vote. No minerals and no idea. It seems that everyone on here is highlighting race issues so this party cannot reasonable be taken seriously.
Stay true, vote BLUE. Labour took this country to the brink of bankruptcy.... that is a fact. Blair shook hands with Saddam, cuddled Gaddafi, released hundreds of convicted women and children murdering terrorists in Ireland, renaged on the promised referendum..... fact, fact, fact. UKIP & Far right Farage is just a wasted non Labour vote. No minerals and no idea. It seems that everyone on here is highlighting race issues so this party cannot reasonable be taken seriously. beverman
  • Score: -13

10:14am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Yes, because insulting travellers is the same as committing mass-genocide isnt it? Idiot
The answer to your rather flippant question is no..and I think by needing to ask such a question you clearly show who the idiot is...as does your user name...I suppose it was funny at the time.
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Yes, because insulting travellers is the same as committing mass-genocide isnt it? Idiot[/p][/quote]The answer to your rather flippant question is no..and I think by needing to ask such a question you clearly show who the idiot is...as does your user name...I suppose it was funny at the time. ThisYear
  • Score: -22

10:15am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
My thumb is aching .....
Im sure your brain is too.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]My thumb is aching .....[/p][/quote]Im sure your brain is too. ThisYear
  • Score: -21

10:20am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts?

The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ...[/p][/quote]Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts? The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals? ThisYear
  • Score: -22

10:33am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Are we Racist' for complaining about them moving onto land that they don't own, farmers fields, car parks, etc etc,leaving piles of shyte behind for somebody else to foot the bill to have it taken away? ...
Do I state that in any of my posts?

Are these people the only people who do what you allege they do?

Did not this paper report 10 tonnes of rubbish left on one beach last year..did you and your ilk then segregate those who did that into cultures and then blame all the people of cultures for that?

Why do you pin point Travellers then?

All humans leave mess behind them as the recent article states:

http://www.echo-news
.co.uk/news/local_ne
ws/11192162.Beach_cl
ean_up_collects_65_s
acks_of_rubbish/?ref
=arc

You dont seem to have commented on that article about rubbish being left..is it only Traveller rubbish that you are interested in?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Are we Racist' for complaining about them moving onto land that they don't own, farmers fields, car parks, etc etc,leaving piles of shyte behind for somebody else to foot the bill to have it taken away? ...[/p][/quote]Do I state that in any of my posts? Are these people the only people who do what you allege they do? Did not this paper report 10 tonnes of rubbish left on one beach last year..did you and your ilk then segregate those who did that into cultures and then blame all the people of cultures for that? Why do you pin point Travellers then? All humans leave mess behind them as the recent article states: http://www.echo-news .co.uk/news/local_ne ws/11192162.Beach_cl ean_up_collects_65_s acks_of_rubbish/?ref =arc You dont seem to have commented on that article about rubbish being left..is it only Traveller rubbish that you are interested in? ThisYear
  • Score: -23

10:45am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation
What word are you referring to? 'Racist'

If you think the word is meaningless then that can only be considered wishful thinking..the word adequately describes many of those given it.

The "generalisations" are made on the basis of the culture of the people..it is clear many people leave rubbish behind them but they are not generalised.. but one culture is..that is discrimination..eith
er by highlighting one culture or by ignoring the other cultures who do the same..

Your understanding of race and racially motivated comments is woefully lacking as you own comments clearly show.

To pick out one culture from a action carried out by all is clearly based on the culture...Its racism dummy! Hence why I accuse them of such

If it looks like a rabid dog and barks like a rabid dog and dribbles comments like a rabid dog then it is a rabid dog..

I have no cause and your rather vague mention of such a cause shows how you are struggling to justify racial comments as simple observations..

I am long past trying to educate and dispel myth with the rancid racists on this forum..many of such have left fleeing retribution for their criminal comments, only the die hard and the ignorant remain..you fit yourself into whatever category you feel comfortable with.
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation[/p][/quote]What word are you referring to? 'Racist' If you think the word is meaningless then that can only be considered wishful thinking..the word adequately describes many of those given it. The "generalisations" are made on the basis of the culture of the people..it is clear many people leave rubbish behind them but they are not generalised.. but one culture is..that is discrimination..eith er by highlighting one culture or by ignoring the other cultures who do the same.. Your understanding of race and racially motivated comments is woefully lacking as you own comments clearly show. To pick out one culture from a action carried out by all is clearly based on the culture...Its racism dummy! Hence why I accuse them of such If it looks like a rabid dog and barks like a rabid dog and dribbles comments like a rabid dog then it is a rabid dog.. I have no cause and your rather vague mention of such a cause shows how you are struggling to justify racial comments as simple observations.. I am long past trying to educate and dispel myth with the rancid racists on this forum..many of such have left fleeing retribution for their criminal comments, only the die hard and the ignorant remain..you fit yourself into whatever category you feel comfortable with. ThisYear
  • Score: -21

11:00am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

angryofessex wrote:
ThisYear (E Types, Last Laugh ex, wrote:
"Its racist scum like you who can’t win. This country rejects racism. Ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person. Thus racist toe rags like you are also rejected. And by the majority of your own community".
Game of race cards anyone?
Politicians play the same card as yourself and celebrities are simply self-serving.
Descent people (the vast majority) have had their views and concerns about the direction of their country stifled by allegations of racism. By the way, who and what are you to tell people to pack their bags and leave?
"E Types, Last Laugh ex" did not write what you said...the user name that did is ThisYear...why do you allude to other user names..do you feel it somehow gives a bit more authority to your dribble?

I have made a clear statement that the aforementioned people would state categorically that they reject racism and yet you think somehow that is a game of race cards (whatever that might be)

Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr.

Your conclusion that politicians only pretend to be anti-racist suggest that they are in fact racists..a cretinous notion..the same with celebs..you struggle to find kinship with the vast majority of the country ignoring the fact that this country has and does reject parties who have manifestos based on race..and has done for manny many years..

If the vast majority are of the same mind as you (god forbid) why is there not a BNP/NF government..BECAUSE the vast majority of people in the country reject racist parties and their doctrine....you are a minority mush...how does it feel?

"who and what am I"

Again the answering of such a stupid question gives an insight into the intelligence of the person asking the question; I am a citizen of this country and a human being with all the inalienable rights of such. Im also anti-racist and feel I have a social and moral duty to confront sick minded people who judge others on their race and culture, while ignoring their own race and cultures shortcomings...that a thumbnail of who and what I am..any clearer to you?

And btw I didn't tell anyone to pack their bags and leave...i offered it as an option if they were not happy with a multicultural society..I mention the same option to you...unhappy where you live? logical solution..MOVE!
[quote][p][bold]angryofessex[/bold] wrote: ThisYear (E Types, Last Laugh ex, wrote: "Its racist scum like you who can’t win. This country rejects racism. Ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person. Thus racist toe rags like you are also rejected. And by the majority of your own community". Game of race cards anyone? Politicians play the same card as yourself and celebrities are simply self-serving. Descent people (the vast majority) have had their views and concerns about the direction of their country stifled by allegations of racism. By the way, who and what are you to tell people to pack their bags and leave?[/p][/quote]"E Types, Last Laugh ex" did not write what you said...the user name that did is ThisYear...why do you allude to other user names..do you feel it somehow gives a bit more authority to your dribble? I have made a clear statement that the aforementioned people would state categorically that they reject racism and yet you think somehow that is a game of race cards (whatever that might be) Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr. Your conclusion that politicians only pretend to be anti-racist suggest that they are in fact racists..a cretinous notion..the same with celebs..you struggle to find kinship with the vast majority of the country ignoring the fact that this country has and does reject parties who have manifestos based on race..and has done for manny many years.. If the vast majority are of the same mind as you (god forbid) why is there not a BNP/NF government..BECAUSE the vast majority of people in the country reject racist parties and their doctrine....you are a minority mush...how does it feel? "who and what am I" Again the answering of such a stupid question gives an insight into the intelligence of the person asking the question; I am a citizen of this country and a human being with all the inalienable rights of such. Im also anti-racist and feel I have a social and moral duty to confront sick minded people who judge others on their race and culture, while ignoring their own race and cultures shortcomings...that a thumbnail of who and what I am..any clearer to you? And btw I didn't tell anyone to pack their bags and leave...i offered it as an option if they were not happy with a multicultural society..I mention the same option to you...unhappy where you live? logical solution..MOVE! ThisYear
  • Score: -18

11:10am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
'We live in a multicultural country'.... Yep, so it's just a shame they don't want to mix with anyone but their own. The idea is that we live in harmony working along side each other, farce of course, but they don't exactly help themselves by segregating their community to outsiders, act like lepers and you will be treated like one .. Abide by the rules of the land and there won't be a problem ..
Does the price of living in a multicultural society mean people have to integrate and be assimilated by the other cultures in the country?

Do people have to give up their beliefs and traditions to be accepted by other cultures..would and do these other cultures do the same..whom assimilates into whom..and why?

Should a culture who are demonised by the MSM (for reasons I bet none of you have ever thought about) to the extent children learn to be wary of strangers and to despise Travellers at one and the same time from parents who were likewise taught..look to be part of that same society that treats them this way...

The best harmony any country can offer is "Harmony by tolerance" all the rest is weasel words..

Which came first; the chicken with leprosy or the egg of racial hate?

Which rules do they not abide by..?

I do hope you try to debate this matter in a reasonable manner.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]'We live in a multicultural country'.... Yep, so it's just a shame they don't want to mix with anyone but their own. The idea is that we live in harmony working along side each other, farce of course, but they don't exactly help themselves by segregating their community to outsiders, act like lepers and you will be treated like one .. Abide by the rules of the land and there won't be a problem ..[/p][/quote]Does the price of living in a multicultural society mean people have to integrate and be assimilated by the other cultures in the country? Do people have to give up their beliefs and traditions to be accepted by other cultures..would and do these other cultures do the same..whom assimilates into whom..and why? Should a culture who are demonised by the MSM (for reasons I bet none of you have ever thought about) to the extent children learn to be wary of strangers and to despise Travellers at one and the same time from parents who were likewise taught..look to be part of that same society that treats them this way... The best harmony any country can offer is "Harmony by tolerance" all the rest is weasel words.. Which came first; the chicken with leprosy or the egg of racial hate? Which rules do they not abide by..? I do hope you try to debate this matter in a reasonable manner. ThisYear
  • Score: -23

11:12am Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

beverman wrote:
Stay true, vote BLUE.

Labour took this country to the brink of bankruptcy.... that is a fact.
Blair shook hands with Saddam, cuddled Gaddafi, released hundreds of convicted women and children murdering terrorists in Ireland, renaged on the promised referendum..... fact, fact, fact.

UKIP & Far right Farage is just a wasted non Labour vote. No minerals and no idea. It seems that everyone on here is highlighting race issues so this party cannot reasonable be taken seriously.
The tories are a party for the mega wealthy..those stupid enough to vote for them obviously have delusions of grandeur.
[quote][p][bold]beverman[/bold] wrote: Stay true, vote BLUE. Labour took this country to the brink of bankruptcy.... that is a fact. Blair shook hands with Saddam, cuddled Gaddafi, released hundreds of convicted women and children murdering terrorists in Ireland, renaged on the promised referendum..... fact, fact, fact. UKIP & Far right Farage is just a wasted non Labour vote. No minerals and no idea. It seems that everyone on here is highlighting race issues so this party cannot reasonable be taken seriously.[/p][/quote]The tories are a party for the mega wealthy..those stupid enough to vote for them obviously have delusions of grandeur. ThisYear
  • Score: -19

11:33am Fri 9 May 14

J Arthur Rank says...

For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.
For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating. J Arthur Rank
  • Score: 21

12:08pm Fri 9 May 14

angryofessex says...

ThisYear (or whoever)_says

“Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr.”

The idiotic phrases are all yours LL. Has it not sunk in, that literally no one ever agrees with your verbose posts. I presume you have kissed the blarney stone at some point in your life, or sat on it more likely.
ThisYear (or whoever)_says “Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr.” The idiotic phrases are all yours LL. Has it not sunk in, that literally no one ever agrees with your verbose posts. I presume you have kissed the blarney stone at some point in your life, or sat on it more likely. angryofessex
  • Score: 17

12:49pm Fri 9 May 14

Mattster says...

ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications. Mattster
  • Score: 21

1:10pm Fri 9 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear, that well known doyen of accurate traveller statistics.
ThisYear, that well known doyen of accurate traveller statistics. blackheart
  • Score: 16

1:23pm Fri 9 May 14

Eric the Red says...

J Arthur Rank wrote:
For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.
Judging by the number of thumbsdowns that he gets, nobody else is even close to getting Tosser of the (This)Year prize.
[quote][p][bold]J Arthur Rank[/bold] wrote: For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbsdowns that he gets, nobody else is even close to getting Tosser of the (This)Year prize. Eric the Red
  • Score: 1

2:16pm Fri 9 May 14

cg1blue says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation
"his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation"

I have tried to get a reasoned argument from ThisYear many times, but have given up.
He owes it to the travellers he supposedly supports to at least try to counter some of the accusations that are thrown at them.
Presumably he can't think of a meaningful defence, which can only mean he agrees with all the accusations...
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation[/p][/quote]"his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation" I have tried to get a reasoned argument from ThisYear many times, but have given up. He owes it to the travellers he supposedly supports to at least try to counter some of the accusations that are thrown at them. Presumably he can't think of a meaningful defence, which can only mean he agrees with all the accusations... cg1blue
  • Score: 15

4:04pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Shut it This Year, nobody takes any notice of you or your loopy leftie friends.

What you and your alter egos here need is a **** good wash - preferably hosing down with carbolic including your lying mouth - before you and the other yoghurt knitters and tofu munchers are consigned to the loony bin.

And as for the name calling, Ga Ga.... hahahaha..I think not. What you idiots don't like is the TRUTH. Typical lefties, always name calling when they're in the wrong.

And particularly when you have LOST the argument. Which is all of the time.

They cannot bear the fact that I talk down their twaddle every time. And they hate that I do it with such eloquence and without the need to resort to the sort of illiterate verbiage used by TY and co.

I have more common sense and knowledge in my little finger than you morons put together. If they put you all in a room together it wouldn't make one brain cell.

For a start, I at least can write clearly and am articulate and not spouting a lot of fictitious garbage.

You know who you are. (Of course I am not referring to everybody here).

Now, if you read the rubbish Labour are spouting in TODAY's paper, it gets even better.

They are on the same page as UKIP, talking about their election manifesto and yet again Labour are spinning more and more ludicrous rubbish. As you know I am not a member of any political party but I do know the cr@p they have written about UKIP today has absolutely no foundation in reality whatsoever. They have nothing with which to back up their claims, just like those of you on this page who are their supporters. You are all liars and as usual, when challenged in debate, you resort to name calling.

As if you think that will stop me telling the truth. I have a saying: you tell lies about me, I tell the truth about you. That's why those of you who slate me dare not publish your comments under a real name.

There are some liars in UKIP too, most notably in the Thurrock and Southend branches and one or two particularly virulent creatures in Wickford and Rayleigh. I know who they are... but the majority of Kippers I know are decent and fine upstanding candidates. Basildon is particularly fortunate in this.

I don't discriminate when praising or criticising politicians or political parties.. In fact, I don't discriminate at all. I detest all liars and lawbreakers with equinamity, regardless of race, colour, religion or politics. As I have said a million times - but it all goes over the heads of the average numpty.

it is noteworthy that those in UKIP I do not trust, have crossed over from Labour or a multitude of other parties. They are known misogynists and thoroughly vile. However, it doesn't change the fact that the lies printed about both UKIP and the Tories in the latest round of leaflets are outrageously preposterous, ludicrous and way off the mark.

When I vote it will be for the person rather than the party. Party politics is a dirty game full of people like the sort you see posting above. Malicious, deluded, stupid and dangerous. However, I will vote tactically and would never dream of doing ANYTHING that would lead to Labour being back in control. I'd rather have a team of mentally deranged gorillas than Labour.. (same thing actually).

I just cannot get over the lies being spun by Labour and their total unwillingness to apologise for their blatant porkies. Perhaps Callaghan has been listening to Nutty Jo of Pitsea who has now resorted to liking her own comments and talking to herself on her rabid facebook page via her entourage of alter egos - rather like This Year does on here. You think I'm ga ga, you need to see what Labour's chief adviser on UKIP policy and candidates has to say.

She's a card carrying UKIP member who distributes leaflets for Labour. She also claims to have had affairs with a number of local politicians and has fantasised about having an affair with Farage. She reads this page regularly don't you Chucky?

This is all going to bite Labour on the @rse. And I am so going to enjoy watching.

They really need to be careful who they take advice from to both online and off. And even worse, reading the cr@p that circulates the internet about myself and others.

Anybody who believes what they read on HNH and UAF blogs, or Farcebook and Tw@tter is seriously in need of locking up in a padded cell and the key throwing away.
Shut it This Year, nobody takes any notice of you or your loopy leftie friends. What you and your alter egos here need is a **** good wash - preferably hosing down with carbolic including your lying mouth - before you and the other yoghurt knitters and tofu munchers are consigned to the loony bin. And as for the name calling, Ga Ga.... hahahaha..I think not. What you idiots don't like is the TRUTH. Typical lefties, always name calling when they're in the wrong. And particularly when you have LOST the argument. Which is all of the time. They cannot bear the fact that I talk down their twaddle every time. And they hate that I do it with such eloquence and without the need to resort to the sort of illiterate verbiage used by TY and co. I have more common sense and knowledge in my little finger than you morons put together. If they put you all in a room together it wouldn't make one brain cell. For a start, I at least can write clearly and am articulate and not spouting a lot of fictitious garbage. You know who you are. (Of course I am not referring to everybody here). Now, if you read the rubbish Labour are spouting in TODAY's paper, it gets even better. They are on the same page as UKIP, talking about their election manifesto and yet again Labour are spinning more and more ludicrous rubbish. As you know I am not a member of any political party but I do know the cr@p they have written about UKIP today has absolutely no foundation in reality whatsoever. They have nothing with which to back up their claims, just like those of you on this page who are their supporters. You are all liars and as usual, when challenged in debate, you resort to name calling. As if you think that will stop me telling the truth. I have a saying: you tell lies about me, I tell the truth about you. That's why those of you who slate me dare not publish your comments under a real name. There are some liars in UKIP too, most notably in the Thurrock and Southend branches and one or two particularly virulent creatures in Wickford and Rayleigh. I know who they are... but the majority of Kippers I know are decent and fine upstanding candidates. Basildon is particularly fortunate in this. I don't discriminate when praising or criticising politicians or political parties.. In fact, I don't discriminate at all. I detest all liars and lawbreakers with equinamity, regardless of race, colour, religion or politics. As I have said a million times - but it all goes over the heads of the average numpty. it is noteworthy that those in UKIP I do not trust, have crossed over from Labour or a multitude of other parties. They are known misogynists and thoroughly vile. However, it doesn't change the fact that the lies printed about both UKIP and the Tories in the latest round of leaflets are outrageously preposterous, ludicrous and way off the mark. When I vote it will be for the person rather than the party. Party politics is a dirty game full of people like the sort you see posting above. Malicious, deluded, stupid and dangerous. However, I will vote tactically and would never dream of doing ANYTHING that would lead to Labour being back in control. I'd rather have a team of mentally deranged gorillas than Labour.. (same thing actually). I just cannot get over the lies being spun by Labour and their total unwillingness to apologise for their blatant porkies. Perhaps Callaghan has been listening to Nutty Jo of Pitsea who has now resorted to liking her own comments and talking to herself on her rabid facebook page via her entourage of alter egos - rather like This Year does on here. You think I'm ga ga, you need to see what Labour's chief adviser on UKIP policy and candidates has to say. She's a card carrying UKIP member who distributes leaflets for Labour. She also claims to have had affairs with a number of local politicians and has fantasised about having an affair with Farage. She reads this page regularly don't you Chucky? This is all going to bite Labour on the @rse. And I am so going to enjoy watching. They really need to be careful who they take advice from to both online and off. And even worse, reading the cr@p that circulates the internet about myself and others. Anybody who believes what they read on HNH and UAF blogs, or Farcebook and Tw@tter is seriously in need of locking up in a padded cell and the key throwing away. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 6

4:26pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
Not attacking. Where is the money coming from?

Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it
Do your own research. Read about the illegal businesses over the years and all the public money that has been spent on that site.

Why can't you people do it for yourselves instead of making it a battering ram against the truth?

The information on what has gone on at Dale Farm over the years is accessible quite easily through the Echo archives.

Do you honestly expect me to sit here and list all 13 years' worth here? I had to do my research, why do I have to spoon feed you?

The information is available for everyone via internet and FoI and other sources.

Genuine answer.
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.[/p][/quote]Not attacking. Where is the money coming from? Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it[/p][/quote]Do your own research. Read about the illegal businesses over the years and all the public money that has been spent on that site. Why can't you people do it for yourselves instead of making it a battering ram against the truth? The information on what has gone on at Dale Farm over the years is accessible quite easily through the Echo archives. Do you honestly expect me to sit here and list all 13 years' worth here? I had to do my research, why do I have to spoon feed you? The information is available for everyone via internet and FoI and other sources. Genuine answer. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 13

4:36pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Correction.

You ARE a racist. You are also a dinosaur and you support crime and criminality; so much for your diatribe on "muck dumping crime wave called non travellers".

You have now revealed yourself to be one of their many "spokespersons". Which one are you, Grattan Puxon?

As for "multicultural", you toss that around with the same nonchalance as you do the word "racist". You are overusing both words and making yourself look an idiot.

Get on the same page as the MAJority of people in this country.

We did not ask for ENFORCED multiculturalism, free loaders, health tourists, terrorists, paedophile rings and bogus asylum seekers.

Most of us recognise there are decent immigrants who want to pay their way and who uphold our laws and traditions and values - and welcome those people are.

The rest should not be here. Not racism, REALISM. Something you are singularly out of touch with.

Now when are you going to get over yourself and realise that your constant hate-filled, inverted racist, self loathing rants are not popular.

The thumbs downers on here who strangely enough thumbs up comments that say very much what I am saying yet thumbs down my comments are in fact, your loony alter egos.

Funny how they always show up when you're here.

And funny how, when talking to people when I'm out and about, they tell me they agree with my comments and letters.

One thing each of them have said to me: "Who do you think that nutter This Year/LastLaugh is?"

It's obvious. You are a soap dodging leftie who supports criminal activities yet criminalises those of us who go about our business in a law abiding way, pay our taxes, don't take from our community and who do not expect it all free and laid on by everybody else.

You sir, are a freeloader, liar, fantasist and hatemonger.

As for you calling others Adolf, go and shave your moustache back into shape and shine up your jackboots.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Correction. You ARE a racist. You are also a dinosaur and you support crime and criminality; so much for your diatribe on "muck dumping crime wave called non travellers". You have now revealed yourself to be one of their many "spokespersons". Which one are you, Grattan Puxon? As for "multicultural", you toss that around with the same nonchalance as you do the word "racist". You are overusing both words and making yourself look an idiot. Get on the same page as the MAJority of people in this country. We did not ask for ENFORCED multiculturalism, free loaders, health tourists, terrorists, paedophile rings and bogus asylum seekers. Most of us recognise there are decent immigrants who want to pay their way and who uphold our laws and traditions and values - and welcome those people are. The rest should not be here. Not racism, REALISM. Something you are singularly out of touch with. Now when are you going to get over yourself and realise that your constant hate-filled, inverted racist, self loathing rants are not popular. The thumbs downers on here who strangely enough thumbs up comments that say very much what I am saying yet thumbs down my comments are in fact, your loony alter egos. Funny how they always show up when you're here. And funny how, when talking to people when I'm out and about, they tell me they agree with my comments and letters. One thing each of them have said to me: "Who do you think that nutter This Year/LastLaugh is?" It's obvious. You are a soap dodging leftie who supports criminal activities yet criminalises those of us who go about our business in a law abiding way, pay our taxes, don't take from our community and who do not expect it all free and laid on by everybody else. You sir, are a freeloader, liar, fantasist and hatemonger. As for you calling others Adolf, go and shave your moustache back into shape and shine up your jackboots. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 13

4:39pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information.

How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up?

Odd that.

Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually.

Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?
[quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 6

4:41pm Fri 9 May 14

blackheart says...

Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.
Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in. blackheart
  • Score: 6

5:41pm Fri 9 May 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
smiffy22 wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22
Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?
Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned.

All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up.

And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them.

And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?[/p][/quote]Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned. All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up. And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them. And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: -4

5:51pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

blackheart wrote:
Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.
Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking.

What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos.

I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport.

Have a nice day :D
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.[/p][/quote]Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking. What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos. I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport. Have a nice day :D Kim Gandy
  • Score: 8

5:58pm Fri 9 May 14

blackheart says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.
Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking.

What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos.

I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport.

Have a nice day :D
I agree. Have a nice day yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.[/p][/quote]Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking. What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos. I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport. Have a nice day :D[/p][/quote]I agree. Have a nice day yourself. blackheart
  • Score: 4

6:13pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
smiffy22 wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22
Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?
Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned.

All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up.

And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them.

And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way
I have made no jokes about the mentally ill and you know it.

People like you read "meanings" into everything.

As for "rants" I do not notice you taking anyone else to task about their opinions even when they do use so called "racist" terminology. You pick me as an easy target.

You are too bone idle to do what I did for years, doing my own research. The information is freely available on this website. You do not have to take my word for it.

If you got off your backside and availed yourself of the plethora of information there is online and under the FoI and invested some time and money in it as I have done, you might learn something and then have some reasoned debate rather than foaming at the mouth every time I speak.

As I have said, I do not have to justify myself to you or anybody else.

Your view "all I see is people who own the land wishing to live on it" is far too simplistic and if you look at other replies and thumbs ups and downs above you will see your opinion is indeed a minority one.

Someone else above has given you the same advice... DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH yet you still pick on my so you obviously are discriminating.

Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.#

Why have you not kept yourself up to date with this ongoing saga? Too lazy and cannot bear to be in the wrong.

You people never can admit when you're wrong can you?

Now once again I suggest you take the time and trouble to read up not just the usual leftwing propaganda but the FACTS, all the stories over the years about the English gypsies that were pushed out, the criminal activities, oh, there is so much I could be here all night.

The idiot This Year I believe is one of their "spokespersons" and therefore is not interested in the views of the settled community. His attitude towards decent upstanding citizens is racist and bigoted in the extreme.

You say I rant. Have you seen his hate-filled diatribes levelled at others who dare to disagree with him. Not just me...

But no, you are focusing all your aggravation on me.

Stop discriminating and start reading. Go and do your homework and then i might just bother to discuss this properly with you.

Until then, stop berating me because each time I will talk you down. I respect only those views that are generated from personal experience and research, which mine are - and yours are not.
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?[/p][/quote]Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned. All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up. And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them. And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way[/p][/quote]I have made no jokes about the mentally ill and you know it. People like you read "meanings" into everything. As for "rants" I do not notice you taking anyone else to task about their opinions even when they do use so called "racist" terminology. You pick me as an easy target. You are too bone idle to do what I did for years, doing my own research. The information is freely available on this website. You do not have to take my word for it. If you got off your backside and availed yourself of the plethora of information there is online and under the FoI and invested some time and money in it as I have done, you might learn something and then have some reasoned debate rather than foaming at the mouth every time I speak. As I have said, I do not have to justify myself to you or anybody else. Your view "all I see is people who own the land wishing to live on it" is far too simplistic and if you look at other replies and thumbs ups and downs above you will see your opinion is indeed a minority one. Someone else above has given you the same advice... DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH yet you still pick on my so you obviously are discriminating. Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.# Why have you not kept yourself up to date with this ongoing saga? Too lazy and cannot bear to be in the wrong. You people never can admit when you're wrong can you? Now once again I suggest you take the time and trouble to read up not just the usual leftwing propaganda but the FACTS, all the stories over the years about the English gypsies that were pushed out, the criminal activities, oh, there is so much I could be here all night. The idiot This Year I believe is one of their "spokespersons" and therefore is not interested in the views of the settled community. His attitude towards decent upstanding citizens is racist and bigoted in the extreme. You say I rant. Have you seen his hate-filled diatribes levelled at others who dare to disagree with him. Not just me... But no, you are focusing all your aggravation on me. Stop discriminating and start reading. Go and do your homework and then i might just bother to discuss this properly with you. Until then, stop berating me because each time I will talk you down. I respect only those views that are generated from personal experience and research, which mine are - and yours are not. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 8

6:39pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

ThisYear wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like.

Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile.

As for being subject to the same laws, dream on...

:P
More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole...

Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel

After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to?

Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims
I never slither anywhere you moron.

I have covered everything with FACTS whereas you just keep banging the same boring drum.

FACT: they want to remain static which means they DON'T TRAVEL.

A concept you are obviously too dense to understand.

As for the laws they are subject to. They are subject to the same laws as the rest of us..

However, the rest of us do not build without planning permission, nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place or blow up caravans on the highway, nor do we allow our horses to roam free on the roads causing potential death and injury to people and livestock.

Nor do we carry on illegal businesses under the noses of the police or imprison people in caravans as slaves, or avoid paying taxes etc etc.

ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER.

You however conveniently "slither" out of every argument just by attacking those who know better than you; those who have seen it all first hand and those whose lives have been affected by it.

How DARE you accuse me of not backing up what I say. I back up EVERYTHING I say and as I have said to Richy above, ALL OF THIS IS RESEARCHABLE and has been reported continuously and extensively for the past 13 years by national and local press and TV documentaries. TWO of which I took part in.

And again, you have the cheek to berate me yet you CONTINUE TO POST UNDER A PSEUDONYM.

Now, take your thrashing like a man eh. I have beaten you over the head with your own political correctness and your own argument innumerable times and still you are here, despite the sheer weight of opposition you get from other contributors.

You have learned nothing and you are not willing to listen to anybody particularly if they know more than you do.

I realise you are going to hang around here like a bad smell which is why I , when I have nothing better to do, will be here to slap you right down again.

You are not winning the argument, or friends, nor are you influencing anybody.

The only thing you are doing is making a pippy show of yourself.

Still, you are good for a laugh for the rest of us. People like you need sectioning.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like. Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile. As for being subject to the same laws, dream on... :P[/p][/quote]More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole... Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to? Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims[/p][/quote]I never slither anywhere you moron. I have covered everything with FACTS whereas you just keep banging the same boring drum. FACT: they want to remain static which means they DON'T TRAVEL. A concept you are obviously too dense to understand. As for the laws they are subject to. They are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.. However, the rest of us do not build without planning permission, nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place or blow up caravans on the highway, nor do we allow our horses to roam free on the roads causing potential death and injury to people and livestock. Nor do we carry on illegal businesses under the noses of the police or imprison people in caravans as slaves, or avoid paying taxes etc etc. ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER. You however conveniently "slither" out of every argument just by attacking those who know better than you; those who have seen it all first hand and those whose lives have been affected by it. How DARE you accuse me of not backing up what I say. I back up EVERYTHING I say and as I have said to Richy above, ALL OF THIS IS RESEARCHABLE and has been reported continuously and extensively for the past 13 years by national and local press and TV documentaries. TWO of which I took part in. And again, you have the cheek to berate me yet you CONTINUE TO POST UNDER A PSEUDONYM. Now, take your thrashing like a man eh. I have beaten you over the head with your own political correctness and your own argument innumerable times and still you are here, despite the sheer weight of opposition you get from other contributors. You have learned nothing and you are not willing to listen to anybody particularly if they know more than you do. I realise you are going to hang around here like a bad smell which is why I , when I have nothing better to do, will be here to slap you right down again. You are not winning the argument, or friends, nor are you influencing anybody. The only thing you are doing is making a pippy show of yourself. Still, you are good for a laugh for the rest of us. People like you need sectioning. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 13

7:29pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

J Arthur Rank wrote:
For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.
Im sure its a gesture you can expertly demonstrate ....your user name adds to that logical conclusion.
Strange how you never seem to be able to deal with the comments but instead resort to ad hominem...try the former rather than the latter and you might have something worth posting
[quote][p][bold]J Arthur Rank[/bold] wrote: For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.[/p][/quote]Im sure its a gesture you can expertly demonstrate ....your user name adds to that logical conclusion. Strange how you never seem to be able to deal with the comments but instead resort to ad hominem...try the former rather than the latter and you might have something worth posting ThisYear
  • Score: -13

7:32pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

angryofessex wrote:
ThisYear (or whoever)_says

“Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr.”

The idiotic phrases are all yours LL. Has it not sunk in, that literally no one ever agrees with your verbose posts. I presume you have kissed the blarney stone at some point in your life, or sat on it more likely.
Again you resort to an old user name rather than the new..bit like your mindset isnt it..frightened of the new while clinging to the old..

The ones who reply to my posts are of a certain ideology no matter how they try to hide that..otherwise why would they bother...

Why you presume such nonsense again gives a measure of your intelligence..Derrrr
r
[quote][p][bold]angryofessex[/bold] wrote: ThisYear (or whoever)_says “Are you challenging my contention that the people mentioned would indeed reject racism? If so do so rather than posting idiotic phrases with no meaning and out of context. Derrrrr.” The idiotic phrases are all yours LL. Has it not sunk in, that literally no one ever agrees with your verbose posts. I presume you have kissed the blarney stone at some point in your life, or sat on it more likely.[/p][/quote]Again you resort to an old user name rather than the new..bit like your mindset isnt it..frightened of the new while clinging to the old.. The ones who reply to my posts are of a certain ideology no matter how they try to hide that..otherwise why would they bother... Why you presume such nonsense again gives a measure of your intelligence..Derrrr r ThisYear
  • Score: -15

7:35pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Mattster wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers?

I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do.

The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.[/p][/quote]You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers? I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do. The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed.. ThisYear
  • Score: -16

7:37pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Eric the Red wrote:
J Arthur Rank wrote:
For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.
Judging by the number of thumbsdowns that he gets, nobody else is even close to getting Tosser of the (This)Year prize.
I bet you are a 'sleb' follower too..you pathetic little man..do you think being popular amongst a pack of rabid racist degenerates is a good thing..I would said the badge of honour is NOT being popular among them..
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J Arthur Rank[/bold] wrote: For some reason, when I read the multitude of comments from ThisYear I feel that the 'thumbs down' symbol fails to give voice to the way I feel. What should be available for ThisYear is a gesture made by curling the fingers into a loose fist and moving the hand up and down as though masturbating.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbsdowns that he gets, nobody else is even close to getting Tosser of the (This)Year prize.[/p][/quote]I bet you are a 'sleb' follower too..you pathetic little man..do you think being popular amongst a pack of rabid racist degenerates is a good thing..I would said the badge of honour is NOT being popular among them.. ThisYear
  • Score: -16

7:40pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation
"his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation"

I have tried to get a reasoned argument from ThisYear many times, but have given up.
He owes it to the travellers he supposedly supports to at least try to counter some of the accusations that are thrown at them.
Presumably he can't think of a meaningful defence, which can only mean he agrees with all the accusations...
You talk twaddle and think it is reasonable..

Most of the accusations made against Travellers are stereotypical racist claptrap and myth..which I have confronted and dispelled time and again on these threads...how many times does it need to be done before its sinks into the pea-brains on here..you are one of the worse for not being able to understand simple statements of fact..its beyond you.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: Its been used so much, the word is practically meaningless nowadays. The insults i read are being made on the basis of behaviour, or are generalisations, i dont think ive read a single one i'd say was based on race. "ThisYear" needs to get his head out of his backside, his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation[/p][/quote]"his insistence on labelling anybody who criticises travellers as "racist" is doing his own cause more harm than good, i never see him trying to educate, or dispell myth, simply just attacking anybody who insults travellers as the worst word he can use in the situation" I have tried to get a reasoned argument from ThisYear many times, but have given up. He owes it to the travellers he supposedly supports to at least try to counter some of the accusations that are thrown at them. Presumably he can't think of a meaningful defence, which can only mean he agrees with all the accusations...[/p][/quote]You talk twaddle and think it is reasonable.. Most of the accusations made against Travellers are stereotypical racist claptrap and myth..which I have confronted and dispelled time and again on these threads...how many times does it need to be done before its sinks into the pea-brains on here..you are one of the worse for not being able to understand simple statements of fact..its beyond you. ThisYear
  • Score: -14

7:42pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Shut it This Year, nobody takes any notice of you or your loopy leftie friends.

What you and your alter egos here need is a **** good wash - preferably hosing down with carbolic including your lying mouth - before you and the other yoghurt knitters and tofu munchers are consigned to the loony bin.

And as for the name calling, Ga Ga.... hahahaha..I think not. What you idiots don't like is the TRUTH. Typical lefties, always name calling when they're in the wrong.

And particularly when you have LOST the argument. Which is all of the time.

They cannot bear the fact that I talk down their twaddle every time. And they hate that I do it with such eloquence and without the need to resort to the sort of illiterate verbiage used by TY and co.

I have more common sense and knowledge in my little finger than you morons put together. If they put you all in a room together it wouldn't make one brain cell.

For a start, I at least can write clearly and am articulate and not spouting a lot of fictitious garbage.

You know who you are. (Of course I am not referring to everybody here).

Now, if you read the rubbish Labour are spouting in TODAY's paper, it gets even better.

They are on the same page as UKIP, talking about their election manifesto and yet again Labour are spinning more and more ludicrous rubbish. As you know I am not a member of any political party but I do know the cr@p they have written about UKIP today has absolutely no foundation in reality whatsoever. They have nothing with which to back up their claims, just like those of you on this page who are their supporters. You are all liars and as usual, when challenged in debate, you resort to name calling.

As if you think that will stop me telling the truth. I have a saying: you tell lies about me, I tell the truth about you. That's why those of you who slate me dare not publish your comments under a real name.

There are some liars in UKIP too, most notably in the Thurrock and Southend branches and one or two particularly virulent creatures in Wickford and Rayleigh. I know who they are... but the majority of Kippers I know are decent and fine upstanding candidates. Basildon is particularly fortunate in this.

I don't discriminate when praising or criticising politicians or political parties.. In fact, I don't discriminate at all. I detest all liars and lawbreakers with equinamity, regardless of race, colour, religion or politics. As I have said a million times - but it all goes over the heads of the average numpty.

it is noteworthy that those in UKIP I do not trust, have crossed over from Labour or a multitude of other parties. They are known misogynists and thoroughly vile. However, it doesn't change the fact that the lies printed about both UKIP and the Tories in the latest round of leaflets are outrageously preposterous, ludicrous and way off the mark.

When I vote it will be for the person rather than the party. Party politics is a dirty game full of people like the sort you see posting above. Malicious, deluded, stupid and dangerous. However, I will vote tactically and would never dream of doing ANYTHING that would lead to Labour being back in control. I'd rather have a team of mentally deranged gorillas than Labour.. (same thing actually).

I just cannot get over the lies being spun by Labour and their total unwillingness to apologise for their blatant porkies. Perhaps Callaghan has been listening to Nutty Jo of Pitsea who has now resorted to liking her own comments and talking to herself on her rabid facebook page via her entourage of alter egos - rather like This Year does on here. You think I'm ga ga, you need to see what Labour's chief adviser on UKIP policy and candidates has to say.

She's a card carrying UKIP member who distributes leaflets for Labour. She also claims to have had affairs with a number of local politicians and has fantasised about having an affair with Farage. She reads this page regularly don't you Chucky?

This is all going to bite Labour on the @rse. And I am so going to enjoy watching.

They really need to be careful who they take advice from to both online and off. And even worse, reading the cr@p that circulates the internet about myself and others.

Anybody who believes what they read on HNH and UAF blogs, or Farcebook and Tw@tter is seriously in need of locking up in a padded cell and the key throwing away.
Are you not shunned by every political party in the country?

Even the extremist ones?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Shut it This Year, nobody takes any notice of you or your loopy leftie friends. What you and your alter egos here need is a **** good wash - preferably hosing down with carbolic including your lying mouth - before you and the other yoghurt knitters and tofu munchers are consigned to the loony bin. And as for the name calling, Ga Ga.... hahahaha..I think not. What you idiots don't like is the TRUTH. Typical lefties, always name calling when they're in the wrong. And particularly when you have LOST the argument. Which is all of the time. They cannot bear the fact that I talk down their twaddle every time. And they hate that I do it with such eloquence and without the need to resort to the sort of illiterate verbiage used by TY and co. I have more common sense and knowledge in my little finger than you morons put together. If they put you all in a room together it wouldn't make one brain cell. For a start, I at least can write clearly and am articulate and not spouting a lot of fictitious garbage. You know who you are. (Of course I am not referring to everybody here). Now, if you read the rubbish Labour are spouting in TODAY's paper, it gets even better. They are on the same page as UKIP, talking about their election manifesto and yet again Labour are spinning more and more ludicrous rubbish. As you know I am not a member of any political party but I do know the cr@p they have written about UKIP today has absolutely no foundation in reality whatsoever. They have nothing with which to back up their claims, just like those of you on this page who are their supporters. You are all liars and as usual, when challenged in debate, you resort to name calling. As if you think that will stop me telling the truth. I have a saying: you tell lies about me, I tell the truth about you. That's why those of you who slate me dare not publish your comments under a real name. There are some liars in UKIP too, most notably in the Thurrock and Southend branches and one or two particularly virulent creatures in Wickford and Rayleigh. I know who they are... but the majority of Kippers I know are decent and fine upstanding candidates. Basildon is particularly fortunate in this. I don't discriminate when praising or criticising politicians or political parties.. In fact, I don't discriminate at all. I detest all liars and lawbreakers with equinamity, regardless of race, colour, religion or politics. As I have said a million times - but it all goes over the heads of the average numpty. it is noteworthy that those in UKIP I do not trust, have crossed over from Labour or a multitude of other parties. They are known misogynists and thoroughly vile. However, it doesn't change the fact that the lies printed about both UKIP and the Tories in the latest round of leaflets are outrageously preposterous, ludicrous and way off the mark. When I vote it will be for the person rather than the party. Party politics is a dirty game full of people like the sort you see posting above. Malicious, deluded, stupid and dangerous. However, I will vote tactically and would never dream of doing ANYTHING that would lead to Labour being back in control. I'd rather have a team of mentally deranged gorillas than Labour.. (same thing actually). I just cannot get over the lies being spun by Labour and their total unwillingness to apologise for their blatant porkies. Perhaps Callaghan has been listening to Nutty Jo of Pitsea who has now resorted to liking her own comments and talking to herself on her rabid facebook page via her entourage of alter egos - rather like This Year does on here. You think I'm ga ga, you need to see what Labour's chief adviser on UKIP policy and candidates has to say. She's a card carrying UKIP member who distributes leaflets for Labour. She also claims to have had affairs with a number of local politicians and has fantasised about having an affair with Farage. She reads this page regularly don't you Chucky? This is all going to bite Labour on the @rse. And I am so going to enjoy watching. They really need to be careful who they take advice from to both online and off. And even worse, reading the cr@p that circulates the internet about myself and others. Anybody who believes what they read on HNH and UAF blogs, or Farcebook and Tw@tter is seriously in need of locking up in a padded cell and the key throwing away.[/p][/quote]Are you not shunned by every political party in the country? Even the extremist ones? ThisYear
  • Score: -11

7:45pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?
Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.
Not attacking. Where is the money coming from?

Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it
Do your own research. Read about the illegal businesses over the years and all the public money that has been spent on that site.

Why can't you people do it for yourselves instead of making it a battering ram against the truth?

The information on what has gone on at Dale Farm over the years is accessible quite easily through the Echo archives.

Do you honestly expect me to sit here and list all 13 years' worth here? I had to do my research, why do I have to spoon feed you?

The information is available for everyone via internet and FoI and other sources.

Genuine answer.
The media has a vested interest in demonising Travellers..Why? Figure it out

The rubbish they present is time and again shown to be untrue but of course idiots like you always believe what they read and hear in the papers and on the TV..the internet says a lot of things about you...I suppose they are all lies while all it says abut Travellers is true..GaGa by name GaGa by nature.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't they be able to buy the land?[/p][/quote]Ever wondered where the money is coming from? Obviously you have not read the Echo over the past 13 years. Once again, a comment with no substance and reasoning, not well thought out at all. And if they do buy the land, as I said before, it depends on the status as to whether they can build on it. You take a very simplistic view and do no research at all because if you did you might wake up and smell the coffee. Then you might see how these things are funded. Go on, start attacking again.. It's all you can do - sling mud and insults when yet again I point out discrepancies in your clueless postings. You and your mouthy leftie friends can mouth off and tell lies about me all you like. You are playing right into my hands. Instead of making dumb comments why don't you go and do some proper research. No? Thought not. Just like you won't post under your real name either. Haven't the guts eh.[/p][/quote]Not attacking. Where is the money coming from? Genuine question Kim, you're right I don't know that much about it[/p][/quote]Do your own research. Read about the illegal businesses over the years and all the public money that has been spent on that site. Why can't you people do it for yourselves instead of making it a battering ram against the truth? The information on what has gone on at Dale Farm over the years is accessible quite easily through the Echo archives. Do you honestly expect me to sit here and list all 13 years' worth here? I had to do my research, why do I have to spoon feed you? The information is available for everyone via internet and FoI and other sources. Genuine answer.[/p][/quote]The media has a vested interest in demonising Travellers..Why? Figure it out The rubbish they present is time and again shown to be untrue but of course idiots like you always believe what they read and hear in the papers and on the TV..the internet says a lot of things about you...I suppose they are all lies while all it says abut Travellers is true..GaGa by name GaGa by nature. ThisYear
  • Score: -17

8:21pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Eric the Red wrote:
Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.
Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it.

This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers.

Anything to say on that Adolf?
Correction.

You ARE a racist. You are also a dinosaur and you support crime and criminality; so much for your diatribe on "muck dumping crime wave called non travellers".

You have now revealed yourself to be one of their many "spokespersons". Which one are you, Grattan Puxon?

As for "multicultural", you toss that around with the same nonchalance as you do the word "racist". You are overusing both words and making yourself look an idiot.

Get on the same page as the MAJority of people in this country.

We did not ask for ENFORCED multiculturalism, free loaders, health tourists, terrorists, paedophile rings and bogus asylum seekers.

Most of us recognise there are decent immigrants who want to pay their way and who uphold our laws and traditions and values - and welcome those people are.

The rest should not be here. Not racism, REALISM. Something you are singularly out of touch with.

Now when are you going to get over yourself and realise that your constant hate-filled, inverted racist, self loathing rants are not popular.

The thumbs downers on here who strangely enough thumbs up comments that say very much what I am saying yet thumbs down my comments are in fact, your loony alter egos.

Funny how they always show up when you're here.

And funny how, when talking to people when I'm out and about, they tell me they agree with my comments and letters.

One thing each of them have said to me: "Who do you think that nutter This Year/LastLaugh is?"

It's obvious. You are a soap dodging leftie who supports criminal activities yet criminalises those of us who go about our business in a law abiding way, pay our taxes, don't take from our community and who do not expect it all free and laid on by everybody else.

You sir, are a freeloader, liar, fantasist and hatemonger.

As for you calling others Adolf, go and shave your moustache back into shape and shine up your jackboots.
Ill reply to your rubbish just because others will read it and they can take it as directed at them as well and maybe they would like to take up the sargument for you because we all know you will flee the thread as soon as certain things are mentioned.

Lets see if you can at least explain one of your own claims..

How am I a racist?

Just deal with that claim..can you?

I support crime and criminality much less than you do...Im also morally superior..did you take part in a apartheid act against young innocent children?

Those on here who give you succour need to look to their conscience about supporting someone who would treat children (any children) like that.

I have but one user name at a time..and Im sure only those who feel they cant debate me as equally resort to that old worn tactic of pretending a poster has more than one user name..I dont look for support of anyone but Im quite willing and able to stand on my own..

Stating the fact that this country is a multicultural country is not overusing the word..if a person was to state ten times to an idiot that the world was not flat would they be overusing the words?

You miss the point GAGA..whether the people asked for multiculturalism or not the fact remains that is what we have..crying over a past long gone is worthless emotion and makes no sense.."The old ways are dead! Long live the new old ways"

Nor did we ask for ranting disturbed people who feel they are politically active when they are political pariahs. Ie YOU.

Why do you feel you can say any or only certain immigrants are welcome in this country?

Who gave you that remit, that mandate?

There are many of your sort who do not welcome anyone who isn't just exactly like them..colour, creed and sloping forehead.

Im sure there are many people who feel you and your ilk shouldn't be here if you feel you are more superior to those who come here..would that be wrong of them?

I think most people have a certain amount of "self-loathing" Ie regret..its the psychopaths who dont..did you never feel a prang of conscience for being involved with a apartheid act against little children?

So you feel I endorse and support your racism in my own words and vote myself up while voting you down for the same racism?

And you state others are mentally ill?

I do not believe you have the fead back on the doorstep nor you have the confidence of people out and about..you are well known for what you are..the internet is full of you..just google Gandy and see for yourself...the only people who support you and your racist bile are those made from the same cloth.

Your stance on immigrants Gandy is reminiscent of that hateful ideology which came out of Germany during the last century..we rejected it then as a country and we still do..so dont expect any right wing extremist party to be governing the country anytime soon.

Having seen your pictures perhaps you should take your own advice and shave your moustache back into shape.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: Most people are fed up with Those In Power pandering to the free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called Travellers.[/p][/quote]Id say the majority of the country are sick to the teeth of old dinosaur racists like you..("but i'm not a racist") Its a multicultural country..dont like it? Leave or lump it. This paper this week has been full of "free-loading, muck-dumping crimewave called" Non- Travellers. Anything to say on that Adolf?[/p][/quote]Correction. You ARE a racist. You are also a dinosaur and you support crime and criminality; so much for your diatribe on "muck dumping crime wave called non travellers". You have now revealed yourself to be one of their many "spokespersons". Which one are you, Grattan Puxon? As for "multicultural", you toss that around with the same nonchalance as you do the word "racist". You are overusing both words and making yourself look an idiot. Get on the same page as the MAJority of people in this country. We did not ask for ENFORCED multiculturalism, free loaders, health tourists, terrorists, paedophile rings and bogus asylum seekers. Most of us recognise there are decent immigrants who want to pay their way and who uphold our laws and traditions and values - and welcome those people are. The rest should not be here. Not racism, REALISM. Something you are singularly out of touch with. Now when are you going to get over yourself and realise that your constant hate-filled, inverted racist, self loathing rants are not popular. The thumbs downers on here who strangely enough thumbs up comments that say very much what I am saying yet thumbs down my comments are in fact, your loony alter egos. Funny how they always show up when you're here. And funny how, when talking to people when I'm out and about, they tell me they agree with my comments and letters. One thing each of them have said to me: "Who do you think that nutter This Year/LastLaugh is?" It's obvious. You are a soap dodging leftie who supports criminal activities yet criminalises those of us who go about our business in a law abiding way, pay our taxes, don't take from our community and who do not expect it all free and laid on by everybody else. You sir, are a freeloader, liar, fantasist and hatemonger. As for you calling others Adolf, go and shave your moustache back into shape and shine up your jackboots.[/p][/quote]Ill reply to your rubbish just because others will read it and they can take it as directed at them as well and maybe they would like to take up the sargument for you because we all know you will flee the thread as soon as certain things are mentioned. Lets see if you can at least explain one of your own claims.. How am I a racist? Just deal with that claim..can you? I support crime and criminality much less than you do...Im also morally superior..did you take part in a apartheid act against young innocent children? Those on here who give you succour need to look to their conscience about supporting someone who would treat children (any children) like that. I have but one user name at a time..and Im sure only those who feel they cant debate me as equally resort to that old worn tactic of pretending a poster has more than one user name..I dont look for support of anyone but Im quite willing and able to stand on my own.. Stating the fact that this country is a multicultural country is not overusing the word..if a person was to state ten times to an idiot that the world was not flat would they be overusing the words? You miss the point GAGA..whether the people asked for multiculturalism or not the fact remains that is what we have..crying over a past long gone is worthless emotion and makes no sense.."The old ways are dead! Long live the new old ways" Nor did we ask for ranting disturbed people who feel they are politically active when they are political pariahs. Ie YOU. Why do you feel you can say any or only certain immigrants are welcome in this country? Who gave you that remit, that mandate? There are many of your sort who do not welcome anyone who isn't just exactly like them..colour, creed and sloping forehead. Im sure there are many people who feel you and your ilk shouldn't be here if you feel you are more superior to those who come here..would that be wrong of them? I think most people have a certain amount of "self-loathing" Ie regret..its the psychopaths who dont..did you never feel a prang of conscience for being involved with a apartheid act against little children? So you feel I endorse and support your racism in my own words and vote myself up while voting you down for the same racism? And you state others are mentally ill? I do not believe you have the fead back on the doorstep nor you have the confidence of people out and about..you are well known for what you are..the internet is full of you..just google Gandy and see for yourself...the only people who support you and your racist bile are those made from the same cloth. Your stance on immigrants Gandy is reminiscent of that hateful ideology which came out of Germany during the last century..we rejected it then as a country and we still do..so dont expect any right wing extremist party to be governing the country anytime soon. Having seen your pictures perhaps you should take your own advice and shave your moustache back into shape. ThisYear
  • Score: -8

8:23pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
smiffy22 wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22
Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?
Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned.

All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up.

And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them.

And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way
Gandy is what she accuses others of..in every department!
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?[/p][/quote]Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned. All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up. And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them. And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way[/p][/quote]Gandy is what she accuses others of..in every department! ThisYear
  • Score: -8

8:25pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.
Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking.

What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos.

I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport.

Have a nice day :D
So all your post on here are wind-ups...Oh dear, how stupid must those who have been supporting you with thumbs up feel now, knowing they have been duped by you messing around..poor idiots.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Wow, sounds like someone's got the painters and decorators in.[/p][/quote]Nope... actually I am always feisty. But much of what I say is tongue in cheek as I am typing it, I am smiling because so many of these people really need a good shaking. What a pity they don't want it done for real, face to face and have to hide behind their multifarious alter-egos. I just enjoy winding up stupid people, particularly lefties. It should be a national sport. Have a nice day :D[/p][/quote]So all your post on here are wind-ups...Oh dear, how stupid must those who have been supporting you with thumbs up feel now, knowing they have been duped by you messing around..poor idiots. ThisYear
  • Score: -12

8:31pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
smiffy22 wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22
Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?
Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned.

All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up.

And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them.

And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way
I have made no jokes about the mentally ill and you know it.

People like you read "meanings" into everything.

As for "rants" I do not notice you taking anyone else to task about their opinions even when they do use so called "racist" terminology. You pick me as an easy target.

You are too bone idle to do what I did for years, doing my own research. The information is freely available on this website. You do not have to take my word for it.

If you got off your backside and availed yourself of the plethora of information there is online and under the FoI and invested some time and money in it as I have done, you might learn something and then have some reasoned debate rather than foaming at the mouth every time I speak.

As I have said, I do not have to justify myself to you or anybody else.

Your view "all I see is people who own the land wishing to live on it" is far too simplistic and if you look at other replies and thumbs ups and downs above you will see your opinion is indeed a minority one.

Someone else above has given you the same advice... DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH yet you still pick on my so you obviously are discriminating.

Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.#

Why have you not kept yourself up to date with this ongoing saga? Too lazy and cannot bear to be in the wrong.

You people never can admit when you're wrong can you?

Now once again I suggest you take the time and trouble to read up not just the usual leftwing propaganda but the FACTS, all the stories over the years about the English gypsies that were pushed out, the criminal activities, oh, there is so much I could be here all night.

The idiot This Year I believe is one of their "spokespersons" and therefore is not interested in the views of the settled community. His attitude towards decent upstanding citizens is racist and bigoted in the extreme.

You say I rant. Have you seen his hate-filled diatribes levelled at others who dare to disagree with him. Not just me...

But no, you are focusing all your aggravation on me.

Stop discriminating and start reading. Go and do your homework and then i might just bother to discuss this properly with you.

Until then, stop berating me because each time I will talk you down. I respect only those views that are generated from personal experience and research, which mine are - and yours are not.
"Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.#"

Try typing Kim Gandy in and see what comes up..but of course its all lies about you isn't it? While its all true about Travellers..all of them.

Please provide evidence of my racist views against people? Can you or is this just another of your deluded claims.

My posts are not hate filled but reactionary and thus I make no apology for them..I react to racial hate not proliferate it.

It seems you are trying to win the poster over with your charms..LOL..like a snake trying to ensnare a rabbit..most know what you are Gandy and those who support you are one and the same as you..sickening!
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Richy.... again, the same advice. Do your own research. Go and take a look for yourself. Ask those living adjacent to traveller sites. Read up on the information. How come I suggest this and get thumbs down and somebody else suggests it and gets thumbs up? Odd that. Smacks of discrimination to me. Sexism actually. Not nice to get beaten over the head with your own politically correct argument is it?[/p][/quote]Kim, it had nothing to do with you being a woman. It's the way you present yourself with these non stop rants especially where travellers are concerned. All I can see are people who own land wishing to live on that land. You made a point about money coming from other sources you won't back up. And as for political affiliations, you make wild assumptions about people and their voting habits yet you're the only one defending any one political group. The Kippers or whatever chummy moniker you were giving them. And the jokes about the mentally ill you made the other night were disgusting by the way[/p][/quote]I have made no jokes about the mentally ill and you know it. People like you read "meanings" into everything. As for "rants" I do not notice you taking anyone else to task about their opinions even when they do use so called "racist" terminology. You pick me as an easy target. You are too bone idle to do what I did for years, doing my own research. The information is freely available on this website. You do not have to take my word for it. If you got off your backside and availed yourself of the plethora of information there is online and under the FoI and invested some time and money in it as I have done, you might learn something and then have some reasoned debate rather than foaming at the mouth every time I speak. As I have said, I do not have to justify myself to you or anybody else. Your view "all I see is people who own the land wishing to live on it" is far too simplistic and if you look at other replies and thumbs ups and downs above you will see your opinion is indeed a minority one. Someone else above has given you the same advice... DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH yet you still pick on my so you obviously are discriminating. Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.# Why have you not kept yourself up to date with this ongoing saga? Too lazy and cannot bear to be in the wrong. You people never can admit when you're wrong can you? Now once again I suggest you take the time and trouble to read up not just the usual leftwing propaganda but the FACTS, all the stories over the years about the English gypsies that were pushed out, the criminal activities, oh, there is so much I could be here all night. The idiot This Year I believe is one of their "spokespersons" and therefore is not interested in the views of the settled community. His attitude towards decent upstanding citizens is racist and bigoted in the extreme. You say I rant. Have you seen his hate-filled diatribes levelled at others who dare to disagree with him. Not just me... But no, you are focusing all your aggravation on me. Stop discriminating and start reading. Go and do your homework and then i might just bother to discuss this properly with you. Until then, stop berating me because each time I will talk you down. I respect only those views that are generated from personal experience and research, which mine are - and yours are not.[/p][/quote]"Try typing "Dale Farm Travellers" into Google or the search bar on this very website and read up on what has been going on for 13 plus years.#" Try typing Kim Gandy in and see what comes up..but of course its all lies about you isn't it? While its all true about Travellers..all of them. Please provide evidence of my racist views against people? Can you or is this just another of your deluded claims. My posts are not hate filled but reactionary and thus I make no apology for them..I react to racial hate not proliferate it. It seems you are trying to win the poster over with your charms..LOL..like a snake trying to ensnare a rabbit..most know what you are Gandy and those who support you are one and the same as you..sickening! ThisYear
  • Score: -8

8:59pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like.

Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile.

As for being subject to the same laws, dream on...

:P
More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole...

Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel

After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to?

Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims
I never slither anywhere you moron.

I have covered everything with FACTS whereas you just keep banging the same boring drum.

FACT: they want to remain static which means they DON'T TRAVEL.

A concept you are obviously too dense to understand.

As for the laws they are subject to. They are subject to the same laws as the rest of us..

However, the rest of us do not build without planning permission, nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place or blow up caravans on the highway, nor do we allow our horses to roam free on the roads causing potential death and injury to people and livestock.

Nor do we carry on illegal businesses under the noses of the police or imprison people in caravans as slaves, or avoid paying taxes etc etc.

ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER.

You however conveniently "slither" out of every argument just by attacking those who know better than you; those who have seen it all first hand and those whose lives have been affected by it.

How DARE you accuse me of not backing up what I say. I back up EVERYTHING I say and as I have said to Richy above, ALL OF THIS IS RESEARCHABLE and has been reported continuously and extensively for the past 13 years by national and local press and TV documentaries. TWO of which I took part in.

And again, you have the cheek to berate me yet you CONTINUE TO POST UNDER A PSEUDONYM.

Now, take your thrashing like a man eh. I have beaten you over the head with your own political correctness and your own argument innumerable times and still you are here, despite the sheer weight of opposition you get from other contributors.

You have learned nothing and you are not willing to listen to anybody particularly if they know more than you do.

I realise you are going to hang around here like a bad smell which is why I , when I have nothing better to do, will be here to slap you right down again.

You are not winning the argument, or friends, nor are you influencing anybody.

The only thing you are doing is making a pippy show of yourself.

Still, you are good for a laugh for the rest of us. People like you need sectioning.
Gandy you could out slither an oiled eel such is your dreadful nature.

They dont have to travel to be part of their culture you idiot..the epithet 'Traveller" has been hoisted on them, they didn't give it to themselves, thus they have no need to adhere to it..Do you understand that simple concept?

So now you accept they are indeed subject to the same laws..which begs the question why you implied they wasn't with your comment:

" As for being subject to the same laws, dream on"

Isn't what you sate now a contradiction to what you posted before? Do you actually know what you think?

Lets look at more of your FACTS

Many many people build without planning permission as do many companies so you are not stating facts but making false claims as fact.

The paper held an article last year that highlighted 10 tonnes of rubbish collected off one beach in one day and just this week it reported 65 bags of rubbish collect off another..this gives lie to your claim that " nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place" some people other than some Travellers do. Another of your facts exposed as a false

There is no evidence that a Traveller set fire to the caravans in question or that they owned them (they seemed to be agricultural caravans) so it would seem you give the status of fact to things that are not factual having not been investigated..This is the worth of all your facts..they all come from your addled brain which is compromised with hate...which has led to your downfall within the jobs market and the political arena..you are a disturbed hate-monger extraordinary..that is your claim to fame.

People do indeed leave their horse to fly-graze and they are not all Travellers..people also purposely release horse onto the roads looking to cause mayhem for which Travellers will be blamed..police aware there is a psychopath on the loose who carried out just this sort of action a few times last year..Where were you when these things were reported?

Many many many people who carry out crime 'under the noses of the police" or other wise are not Travellers and many do indeed inprision people and sometimes murder them..any crime you like to lay at the door of a Traveller can just as easily be laid at the door of an other Traveller..there are good and bad in all communties within society...to pretend otherwise is false..ie as in another of your facts.( you not doing very well fact wise are you..you are being hammered with the truth of your 'facts' which are basically deluded lies)

You do not know better than me about Travellers you know virtually nothing about them other than your demented hate of them..a hate which has caused your downfall..and has you scraping the life you have...

You Gandy are a disturbed individual and really do need help..those who encourage you are the type who in times gone by baited bulls and bears..they should be ashamed of themselves... I try to help you by trying to confront your 'reality' to bring some truth and awareness into your stupor, but its all in vain..you are too far gone..seriously all argument apart..get help asap.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]That's the theory. It works for anybody else but according to them, they are "protected" in other words they do as they like. Travellers that don't travel in mobile homes that aren't mobile. As for being subject to the same laws, dream on... :P[/p][/quote]More waffle, rubbish and hyperbole... Name one Traveller who doesn't Traveller then define what you mean by travel After you haven't done that, avoid naming one law that Travellers are not subject to? Now slither off the thread as you always do when challenged by me to give sensible answers to sensible questions about your ridiculous claims[/p][/quote]I never slither anywhere you moron. I have covered everything with FACTS whereas you just keep banging the same boring drum. FACT: they want to remain static which means they DON'T TRAVEL. A concept you are obviously too dense to understand. As for the laws they are subject to. They are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.. However, the rest of us do not build without planning permission, nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place or blow up caravans on the highway, nor do we allow our horses to roam free on the roads causing potential death and injury to people and livestock. Nor do we carry on illegal businesses under the noses of the police or imprison people in caravans as slaves, or avoid paying taxes etc etc. ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE BEEN REPORTED BY THIS NEWSPAPER. You however conveniently "slither" out of every argument just by attacking those who know better than you; those who have seen it all first hand and those whose lives have been affected by it. How DARE you accuse me of not backing up what I say. I back up EVERYTHING I say and as I have said to Richy above, ALL OF THIS IS RESEARCHABLE and has been reported continuously and extensively for the past 13 years by national and local press and TV documentaries. TWO of which I took part in. And again, you have the cheek to berate me yet you CONTINUE TO POST UNDER A PSEUDONYM. Now, take your thrashing like a man eh. I have beaten you over the head with your own political correctness and your own argument innumerable times and still you are here, despite the sheer weight of opposition you get from other contributors. You have learned nothing and you are not willing to listen to anybody particularly if they know more than you do. I realise you are going to hang around here like a bad smell which is why I , when I have nothing better to do, will be here to slap you right down again. You are not winning the argument, or friends, nor are you influencing anybody. The only thing you are doing is making a pippy show of yourself. Still, you are good for a laugh for the rest of us. People like you need sectioning.[/p][/quote]Gandy you could out slither an oiled eel such is your dreadful nature. They dont have to travel to be part of their culture you idiot..the epithet 'Traveller" has been hoisted on them, they didn't give it to themselves, thus they have no need to adhere to it..Do you understand that simple concept? So now you accept they are indeed subject to the same laws..which begs the question why you implied they wasn't with your comment: " As for being subject to the same laws, dream on" Isn't what you sate now a contradiction to what you posted before? Do you actually know what you think? Lets look at more of your FACTS Many many people build without planning permission as do many companies so you are not stating facts but making false claims as fact. The paper held an article last year that highlighted 10 tonnes of rubbish collected off one beach in one day and just this week it reported 65 bags of rubbish collect off another..this gives lie to your claim that " nor do we dump our rubbish all over the place" some people other than some Travellers do. Another of your facts exposed as a false There is no evidence that a Traveller set fire to the caravans in question or that they owned them (they seemed to be agricultural caravans) so it would seem you give the status of fact to things that are not factual having not been investigated..This is the worth of all your facts..they all come from your addled brain which is compromised with hate...which has led to your downfall within the jobs market and the political arena..you are a disturbed hate-monger extraordinary..that is your claim to fame. People do indeed leave their horse to fly-graze and they are not all Travellers..people also purposely release horse onto the roads looking to cause mayhem for which Travellers will be blamed..police aware there is a psychopath on the loose who carried out just this sort of action a few times last year..Where were you when these things were reported? Many many many people who carry out crime 'under the noses of the police" or other wise are not Travellers and many do indeed inprision people and sometimes murder them..any crime you like to lay at the door of a Traveller can just as easily be laid at the door of an other Traveller..there are good and bad in all communties within society...to pretend otherwise is false..ie as in another of your facts.( you not doing very well fact wise are you..you are being hammered with the truth of your 'facts' which are basically deluded lies) You do not know better than me about Travellers you know virtually nothing about them other than your demented hate of them..a hate which has caused your downfall..and has you scraping the life you have... You Gandy are a disturbed individual and really do need help..those who encourage you are the type who in times gone by baited bulls and bears..they should be ashamed of themselves... I try to help you by trying to confront your 'reality' to bring some truth and awareness into your stupor, but its all in vain..you are too far gone..seriously all argument apart..get help asap. ThisYear
  • Score: -11

9:09pm Fri 9 May 14

ThisYear says...

"any crime you like to lay at the door of a Traveller can just as easily be laid at the door of an other Traveller."

*an non-Traveller.

To say otherwise is to be guilty of refuting the obvious truth.
"any crime you like to lay at the door of a Traveller can just as easily be laid at the door of an other Traveller." *an non-Traveller. To say otherwise is to be guilty of refuting the obvious truth. ThisYear
  • Score: -16

11:48pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

11:54pm Fri 9 May 14

Kim Gandy says...

Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado.

And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again.

Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you.
Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado. And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again. Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 8

10:07am Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts?

The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?
When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ...

You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ...

Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ...[/p][/quote]Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts? The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?[/p][/quote]When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ... You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ... Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 6

10:16am Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry. blackheart
  • Score: -1

10:22am Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ...
Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe
ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..
Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ... Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 8

10:32am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Lets deal with your delusions and muddled understanding of things and the world around you point by point

If you do not read the rest of the replies to your verbal diarrhoea how could you possibly post in any confidence on the posts?

You really are firing on a single cylinder.

Can you define what you mean by 'nutter' its a term that seems very important to you..

So you read my summing up of your being shunned by political and extreme groups..were they in the first post in reply to your disturbed diatribe?

You speak of obnoxious..what do you think people would consider a person who was part of a apartheid action against small little children..from 4 year toddlers up to 10 years old kids...more than obnoxious?

Are you a expert on mens nether regions? You seem to make mention of them quite a lot.

Why on earth do you think I have obvious problems in my 'nether regions' Have you? And because of this you think everyone else does..bit like you advising 'matron' will be around with the meds..not realising we dont all have access to matron like you might.

Can you give an example of my "racist bigotry" or are you just going to make statements with no attempt to back them up? Its what you do all the time isnt it GaGa...So lets see your FACTS (as you like to post the word) or we can again take it its just more Gandism..all froth and no substance...ie lies.

You feel this is a popularity forum where the more right-wing extremist gets the most votes..is that what you life has come to..bothering council meetings, trying to belong to a arena (political) to which you are person non grata..whilst pretending you are some type of campaign manager receiving feedback from the doorsteps after canvassing..you are deluded...to the point of insanity. You ruined any chance you had of being a small fish in the political arena with your disgusting hate of people because of their race and/or culture..And that is a FACT!

I know more about Travellers than you will ever know, and the fact the obvious reason why that is hasn't sunk in, after all this time, shows just how mentally limited you are.

"Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words"

Yes and they would probably be along the lines "Pity me"

"You are not entitled to an opinion"

And here we see why even extreme groups avoid you like the plague you are..you are not wanted by the political groups..why do you embarrass yourself travelling miles and miles to attend council meetings that have nothing to do with the area you infest..? (another question you will read and pretend you haven't so you dont have to answer it)

You are a desperately sick individual..and whats more I think you know it to a degree..your racial hate and ideology has ruined your life yet you cant stop...I feel you are so ill you should be forced into being helped, for your own sake..





In your putrid bile you go from denigrating metal illness..to making comments on problems with the sexual organs, to accusations of being a racist for confronting racists to being afraid of women, to mention of S&M practises to accusations of not being educated..in your desperation to try ignore the questions asked of you..ie did you take part in a apartheid type action against little children (a disgrace to motherhood) to what is a non-political councillor..you throw in the kitchen sink of accusation to avoid answering..and we know why dont we GaGa.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Lets deal with your delusions and muddled understanding of things and the world around you point by point If you do not read the rest of the replies to your verbal diarrhoea how could you possibly post in any confidence on the posts? You really are firing on a single cylinder. Can you define what you mean by 'nutter' its a term that seems very important to you.. So you read my summing up of your being shunned by political and extreme groups..were they in the first post in reply to your disturbed diatribe? You speak of obnoxious..what do you think people would consider a person who was part of a apartheid action against small little children..from 4 year toddlers up to 10 years old kids...more than obnoxious? Are you a expert on mens nether regions? You seem to make mention of them quite a lot. Why on earth do you think I have obvious problems in my 'nether regions' Have you? And because of this you think everyone else does..bit like you advising 'matron' will be around with the meds..not realising we dont all have access to matron like you might. Can you give an example of my "racist bigotry" or are you just going to make statements with no attempt to back them up? Its what you do all the time isnt it GaGa...So lets see your FACTS (as you like to post the word) or we can again take it its just more Gandism..all froth and no substance...ie lies. You feel this is a popularity forum where the more right-wing extremist gets the most votes..is that what you life has come to..bothering council meetings, trying to belong to a arena (political) to which you are person non grata..whilst pretending you are some type of campaign manager receiving feedback from the doorsteps after canvassing..you are deluded...to the point of insanity. You ruined any chance you had of being a small fish in the political arena with your disgusting hate of people because of their race and/or culture..And that is a FACT! I know more about Travellers than you will ever know, and the fact the obvious reason why that is hasn't sunk in, after all this time, shows just how mentally limited you are. "Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words" Yes and they would probably be along the lines "Pity me" "You are not entitled to an opinion" And here we see why even extreme groups avoid you like the plague you are..you are not wanted by the political groups..why do you embarrass yourself travelling miles and miles to attend council meetings that have nothing to do with the area you infest..? (another question you will read and pretend you haven't so you dont have to answer it) You are a desperately sick individual..and whats more I think you know it to a degree..your racial hate and ideology has ruined your life yet you cant stop...I feel you are so ill you should be forced into being helped, for your own sake.. In your putrid bile you go from denigrating metal illness..to making comments on problems with the sexual organs, to accusations of being a racist for confronting racists to being afraid of women, to mention of S&M practises to accusations of not being educated..in your desperation to try ignore the questions asked of you..ie did you take part in a apartheid type action against little children (a disgrace to motherhood) to what is a non-political councillor..you throw in the kitchen sink of accusation to avoid answering..and we know why dont we GaGa. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

10:37am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado.

And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again.

Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you.
What phases are these GaGa?

There is no such thing as a 'race card" That notion was invented by those who want to be able to racially abuse people without any consequence..a sort of excuse..anyone who cant see that must be as deranged as you.

Why do you not answer questions that you pretend you haven't read?

Heres a few..

Did you take part in an apartheid action against little innocent children?

Are all the things on the internet about you lies..and why have people gone to such trouble to spread this massive amount of 'lies' Its clear by your own logic that you believe you are loved by all..

What is a non-political councillor?

Think you can manage to read those questions and give a reply?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado. And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again. Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you.[/p][/quote]What phases are these GaGa? There is no such thing as a 'race card" That notion was invented by those who want to be able to racially abuse people without any consequence..a sort of excuse..anyone who cant see that must be as deranged as you. Why do you not answer questions that you pretend you haven't read? Heres a few.. Did you take part in an apartheid action against little innocent children? Are all the things on the internet about you lies..and why have people gone to such trouble to spread this massive amount of 'lies' Its clear by your own logic that you believe you are loved by all.. What is a non-political councillor? Think you can manage to read those questions and give a reply? ThisYear
  • Score: -7

10:37am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado.

And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again.

Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you.
What phases are these GaGa?

There is no such thing as a 'race card" That notion was invented by those who want to be able to racially abuse people without any consequence..a sort of excuse..anyone who cant see that must be as deranged as you.

Why do you not answer questions that you pretend you haven't read?

Heres a few..

Did you take part in an apartheid action against little innocent children?

Are all the things on the internet about you lies..and why have people gone to such trouble to spread this massive amount of 'lies' Its clear by your own logic that you believe you are loved by all..

What is a non-political councillor?

Think you can manage to read those questions and give a reply?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Oh and TY/LL - stop nicking my phrases. Just shows how unoriginal you really are. All you do is insult everybody on the page, trot out the same lines and you've waved the race card so many times you've practically caused a tornado. And one more thing,why do you keep saying I disappear or "flee". I keep coming back and whacking you again and again. Apologies if there are times when I don't. But that's because I have better things to do than sit here all day talking to nutters like you.[/p][/quote]What phases are these GaGa? There is no such thing as a 'race card" That notion was invented by those who want to be able to racially abuse people without any consequence..a sort of excuse..anyone who cant see that must be as deranged as you. Why do you not answer questions that you pretend you haven't read? Heres a few.. Did you take part in an apartheid action against little innocent children? Are all the things on the internet about you lies..and why have people gone to such trouble to spread this massive amount of 'lies' Its clear by your own logic that you believe you are loved by all.. What is a non-political councillor? Think you can manage to read those questions and give a reply? ThisYear
  • Score: -8

10:46am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts?

The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?
When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ...

You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ...

Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..
I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card..

I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing..

It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed...

Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall..

Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way.

You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ...[/p][/quote]Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts? The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?[/p][/quote]When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ... You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ... Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..[/p][/quote]I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card.. I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing.. It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed... Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall.. Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way. You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen. ThisYear
  • Score: -11

10:48am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry"

Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.[/p][/quote]Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry" Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it? ThisYear
  • Score: -6

10:55am Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ...
Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe

ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..
So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family?

Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ... Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..[/p][/quote]So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family? Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF. ThisYear
  • Score: -12

11:14am Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ...
Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe


ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..
So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family?

Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF.
Unbelievable attitude to take ... Yesterday Travellers left 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe, who pays to clear that up? them? nah, we do ... I'm not talking about a one off event, I'm not talking about a cig butt, I'm talking asbestos, rubble, tarmac, scrap, motors, waggons, etc etc ... The fact that you see no harm in leaving such a massive amount of waste behind for someone else to clear up is astonishing ...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ... Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..[/p][/quote]So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family? Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF.[/p][/quote]Unbelievable attitude to take ... Yesterday Travellers left 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe, who pays to clear that up? them? nah, we do ... I'm not talking about a one off event, I'm not talking about a cig butt, I'm talking asbestos, rubble, tarmac, scrap, motors, waggons, etc etc ... The fact that you see no harm in leaving such a massive amount of waste behind for someone else to clear up is astonishing ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 11

11:26am Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts?

The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?
When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ...

You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ...

Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..
I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card..

I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing..

It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed...

Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall..

Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way.

You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen.
'In your mind' ... Exactly ... Not in mine ...

The trouble is you think too much into things, analysing everything with great depth, then you come a cropper by expecting everyone to share your views .. We don't all think alike .. I appreciate you think it's ok to pitch up on land that doesn't belong to you, leave a field of rubbish and move onto somewhere else, I understand you think this fine but I don't share this mindset .. We have to agree to differ ...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ...[/p][/quote]Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts? The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?[/p][/quote]When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ... You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ... Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..[/p][/quote]I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card.. I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing.. It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed... Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall.. Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way. You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen.[/p][/quote]'In your mind' ... Exactly ... Not in mine ... The trouble is you think too much into things, analysing everything with great depth, then you come a cropper by expecting everyone to share your views .. We don't all think alike .. I appreciate you think it's ok to pitch up on land that doesn't belong to you, leave a field of rubbish and move onto somewhere else, I understand you think this fine but I don't share this mindset .. We have to agree to differ ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 10

12:51pm Sat 10 May 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers?

I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do.

The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..
I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval.

Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.[/p][/quote]You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers? I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do. The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..[/p][/quote]I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval. Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race. Alekhine
  • Score: 8

2:06pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry"

Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?
Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.[/p][/quote]Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry" Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?[/p][/quote]Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand. blackheart
  • Score: 9

2:33pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ...
Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe



ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..
So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family?

Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF.
Unbelievable attitude to take ... Yesterday Travellers left 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe, who pays to clear that up? them? nah, we do ... I'm not talking about a one off event, I'm not talking about a cig butt, I'm talking asbestos, rubble, tarmac, scrap, motors, waggons, etc etc ... The fact that you see no harm in leaving such a massive amount of waste behind for someone else to clear up is astonishing ...
Rather than posting faux outrage.. provide a link to what you shriek about.

Rubbish is rubbish no matter who leaves it..

Did you shriek about the 10 tonne of rubbish dumped on the beach last year?

Or is it only rubbish dumped by certain people that gets your tonsils quivering?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: Travellers leave 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe ... Appleby Fair ...Thousands of travellers leave human waste ..Tooting Common ...Rose Hill Park ...Catford ... Mill Hill ...Broadstone Park ...Wilmslow...Chadwe ll Hill ...Jennets Park ..Earl Road ...Coventry ... Dundee Ice Arena ... Basically everywhere they go they leave cr@p ... THIS is why they are not liked ... Not because of RACE ..[/p][/quote]So all the people who left 10 tonnes of rubbish on a beach last year should also be disliked for it..have you never left a piece of rubbish behind you..a cig butt, a wrapper, a tin can..or any of your family? Any claim against Travellers can be made just as easily against non-Travellers and that must be obvious..Human make and leave waste..END OF.[/p][/quote]Unbelievable attitude to take ... Yesterday Travellers left 15 tonnes of rubbish in High Wycombe, who pays to clear that up? them? nah, we do ... I'm not talking about a one off event, I'm not talking about a cig butt, I'm talking asbestos, rubble, tarmac, scrap, motors, waggons, etc etc ... The fact that you see no harm in leaving such a massive amount of waste behind for someone else to clear up is astonishing ...[/p][/quote]Rather than posting faux outrage.. provide a link to what you shriek about. Rubbish is rubbish no matter who leaves it.. Did you shriek about the 10 tonne of rubbish dumped on the beach last year? Or is it only rubbish dumped by certain people that gets your tonsils quivering? ThisYear
  • Score: -11

2:38pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Still playing the race card then ...
Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts?

The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?
When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ...

You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ...

Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..
I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card..

I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing..

It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed...

Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall..

Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way.

You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen.
'In your mind' ... Exactly ... Not in mine ...

The trouble is you think too much into things, analysing everything with great depth, then you come a cropper by expecting everyone to share your views .. We don't all think alike .. I appreciate you think it's ok to pitch up on land that doesn't belong to you, leave a field of rubbish and move onto somewhere else, I understand you think this fine but I don't share this mindset .. We have to agree to differ ...
I think you dont think to much before you post..

You moan about the race card but only when you believe its being played by those you dont agree with..

You do not appreciate anything I think, because my mindset is not yours and you can only go off your own..you have not shown the aptitude to think outside of the box..as it were..

You deal in a simplistic way with the logistics of people moving onto a piece of land...think about it and then see where you are going wrong..
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Still playing the race card then ...[/p][/quote]Are you not guilty of playing the "playing the race card" tactic to try stifle mention of what is clearly a racial aspect of this rather pathetic mans posts? The cretin has a psychological hatred of Travellers which he has presented on this forum for years..it is racial in its aspect and context..should that be ignored to appease people like you who want to pretend there is no racial depth to the posts on here by certain flawed individuals?[/p][/quote]When do I play the race card? ... I am not concerned with race so don't confuse me with anyone else thanks ... You seem to have a psychological hatred for Kim Gandy too, what's the difference? ... Either way we are going round in circles again on this subject. I just wonder why you are so passionate about travellers? is it that you are one? .. Nothing wrong in that, but it would explain a good deal ..[/p][/quote]I asked you a question..its clear you play the 'race card' within your posts..the 'race card' to my mind can be when a person uses the culture of another to denigrate them or claim they are getting preferential treatment...you and others like you muse on this quite often..ie playing the race card.. I have a dislike of all racists and will challenge and confront them where i find them..nothing to do with any psychology any more than any person having a dislike of someone or thing.. It has been claimed that people with strong racist views are psychologically flawed... Gandy hates Traveller because her hate of them was her downfall.. Strange how not one poster reading my comments have asked about the 'apartheid' actions I refer to and why Gandy doesn't reply to the question..perhaps you al, already know the answer and to continue to give her support might have those who do look at how they support to someone who resorted to such a tactic against little children in this way. You seem to feel a person being passionate against racial hate is somehow strange and of a need to be explained...racial hate is the basic level of the intelligence of mankind..those who indulge in it are little more evolved mentally than cavemen.[/p][/quote]'In your mind' ... Exactly ... Not in mine ... The trouble is you think too much into things, analysing everything with great depth, then you come a cropper by expecting everyone to share your views .. We don't all think alike .. I appreciate you think it's ok to pitch up on land that doesn't belong to you, leave a field of rubbish and move onto somewhere else, I understand you think this fine but I don't share this mindset .. We have to agree to differ ...[/p][/quote]I think you dont think to much before you post.. You moan about the race card but only when you believe its being played by those you dont agree with.. You do not appreciate anything I think, because my mindset is not yours and you can only go off your own..you have not shown the aptitude to think outside of the box..as it were.. You deal in a simplistic way with the logistics of people moving onto a piece of land...think about it and then see where you are going wrong.. ThisYear
  • Score: -12

2:46pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers?

I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do.

The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..
I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval.

Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.
So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it..

Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do..

Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have?

Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it

"Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you."

Isn't that the race card?

"Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either.

You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it..
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.[/p][/quote]You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers? I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do. The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..[/p][/quote]I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval. Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.[/p][/quote]So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it.. Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do.. Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have? Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it "Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you." Isn't that the race card? "Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either. You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it.. ThisYear
  • Score: -11

2:48pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry"

Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?
Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.
So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry"

Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange..

Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.[/p][/quote]Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry" Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?[/p][/quote]Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.[/p][/quote]So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry" Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange.. Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off.. ThisYear
  • Score: -12

2:52pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry"

Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?
Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.
So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry"

Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange..

Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off..
Why would I bother when you just pretend not to get it anyway?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.[/p][/quote]Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry" Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?[/p][/quote]Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.[/p][/quote]So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry" Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange.. Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off..[/p][/quote]Why would I bother when you just pretend not to get it anyway? blackheart
  • Score: 6

5:13pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest.

You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that.

I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.#

You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions.

You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you.

Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere.

I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising.

When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface.

I am right,you are wrong and that's that.

You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf.

You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed.

Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot.

You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid.

When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence.

I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more.

Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me.

You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping.

You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue.

I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.
Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.
Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry"

Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?
Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.
So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry"

Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange..

Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off..
Why would I bother when you just pretend not to get it anyway?
Its clear you cannot produce evidence of what you claim..and so you take the stance you do..be assured I will always challenge such weasel tactics..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Listen twerp, I read the first of your latest missives and ignored the rest. You are ranting to yourself now. You are a nutter and everyone here knows that. I read your remark about being shunned by political parties. I have been a member of two, resigned from one and let my membership lapse from the other, largely because they were attracting idiots like you.# You are a mean spirited, obnoxious little man with an obvious problem somewhere in your nether regions. You are horrible to everyone on here and nobody here likes you. Why don't you just pack it in and take your racist bigotry elsewhere. I couldn't possibly be bothered to lower myself to waste time reading your rubbish in full. You are so far off the scale now you need institutionalising. When you ever trip over a FACT and reproduce it here, I might be interested but until then, your deluded rants just don't even scratch the surface. I am right,you are wrong and that's that. You know nothing about travellers and are an uneducated oaf. You don't like strong women and you are too scared to confront them face to face. Basically you are a weed. Face to face I'd reduce you to jelly with just two words. You are a nothing, a nobody and your views matter not one jot. You are not entitled to an opinion because you are ignorant and stupid. When you start contributing a) facts and b) a signature under the facts, people around here might give you some credence. I have shot your argument down in flames so many times but you still come back for more. Tell me, do you pay somebody to whip you? If not, I suggest you do... step up to the plate like a real man and take your punishment like you do for me. You walk into it every time and I give you the written equivalent of a **** good whopping. You just made my day by doing exactly as I predicted. You are so predictable it's untrue. I reckon you get a thrill out of it.. you must do to keep returning just to be made to look the pathetic weed you are by me.[/p][/quote]Much of this may be true but he DOES have the right to an opinion and these forums would be less interesting without his loony bigotry.[/p][/quote]Can you give an explanation in regards to you accusation of " loony bigotry" Or did it just sound nice to you so you posted it?[/p][/quote]Refer to previous thread on A130 caravans where I did quite clearly, I can't keep repeating myself because you choose not to understand.[/p][/quote]So I need to refer to a past thread in regards to a present claim of "loony bigotry" Isnt it the case that when you are challenged on your claims you cannot give evidence of what you claim..as per this exchange.. Rather than trying to hide behind another thread, why not give evidence of what you claim..can you? If not buzz off..[/p][/quote]Why would I bother when you just pretend not to get it anyway?[/p][/quote]Its clear you cannot produce evidence of what you claim..and so you take the stance you do..be assured I will always challenge such weasel tactics.. ThisYear
  • Score: -8

6:19pm Sat 10 May 14

smiffy22 says...

ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks!
In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone).
My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call.
You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here.
But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible.
So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-)
Regards,
Smiffy22
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks! In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone). My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call. You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here. But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible. So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-) Regards, Smiffy22 smiffy22
  • Score: 8

7:01pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/112
01302.Travellers_lea
ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb
ish_in_High_Wycombe/
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/ InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 2

7:07pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

This Year ... I answered you before about the rubbish, now what do you say about that link? ... Is it acceptable? ... Yes or No? ...
This Year ... I answered you before about the rubbish, now what do you say about that link? ... Is it acceptable? ... Yes or No? ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 3

8:30pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

smiffy22 wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks!
In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone).
My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call.
You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here.
But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible.
So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-)
Regards,
Smiffy22
As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you..

I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that.

You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster..

As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness.

You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign.

It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one.

As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by...

You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job..

I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious..
[quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks! In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone). My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call. You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here. But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible. So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-) Regards, Smiffy22[/p][/quote]As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you.. I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that. You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster.. As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness. You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign. It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one. As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by... You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job.. I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious.. ThisYear
  • Score: -12

8:55pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks!
In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone).
My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call.
You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here.
But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible.
So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-)
Regards,
Smiffy22
As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you..

I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that.

You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster..

As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness.

You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign.

It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one.

As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by...

You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job..

I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious..
Dude, you've got to get a grip! ... What you've just written is way over the top!!!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks! In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone). My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call. You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here. But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible. So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-) Regards, Smiffy22[/p][/quote]As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you.. I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that. You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster.. As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness. You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign. It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one. As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by... You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job.. I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious..[/p][/quote]Dude, you've got to get a grip! ... What you've just written is way over the top!!! InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 5

8:55pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree

press.co.uk/news/112

01302.Travellers_lea

ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb

ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that.. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

9:01pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree


press.co.uk/news/112


01302.Travellers_lea


ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb


ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ... InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 4

9:02pm Sat 10 May 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers?

I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do.

The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..
I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval.

Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.
So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it..

Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do..

Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have?

Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it

"Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you."

Isn't that the race card?

"Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either.

You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it..
That post says all that needs to be said about you.

If I get refused planning permission, that's tough. If you get refused, that's racism.........and that is the race card! .......hello, anybody in!

As to why I would follow the correct planning procedure, the answer is obvious. Why invest thousands building an extension on the arrogant assumption that you will get permission and then have to knock it all down.

It's an idiot's choice.

The other, and possibly more important reasons are that i support the preservation of green belt and i vote. What gives you the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the representatives of the majority? Do things the right way or Feck off.

If if costs councils money to keep you in you place, so be it.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.[/p][/quote]You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers? I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do. The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..[/p][/quote]I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval. Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.[/p][/quote]So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it.. Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do.. Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have? Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it "Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you." Isn't that the race card? "Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either. You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it..[/p][/quote]That post says all that needs to be said about you. If I get refused planning permission, that's tough. If you get refused, that's racism.........and that is the race card! .......hello, anybody in! As to why I would follow the correct planning procedure, the answer is obvious. Why invest thousands building an extension on the arrogant assumption that you will get permission and then have to knock it all down. It's an idiot's choice. The other, and possibly more important reasons are that i support the preservation of green belt and i vote. What gives you the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the representatives of the majority? Do things the right way or Feck off. If if costs councils money to keep you in you place, so be it. Alekhine
  • Score: 3

9:04pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
smiffy22 wrote:
There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people.
Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he.
Smiffy22
Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist"

I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are..

Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are.

You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum.

The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum!

Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from?

Is all your community the same?

You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community..

Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before..

Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community....

You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.
Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks!
In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone).
My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call.
You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here.
But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible.
So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-)
Regards,
Smiffy22
As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you..

I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that.

You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster..

As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness.

You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign.

It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one.

As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by...

You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job..

I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious..
Dude, you've got to get a grip! ... What you've just written is way over the top!!!
The poster it was aimed at is worse than any person spouting racist claptrap out of ignorance...this is a poster inciting hate and denigrating communities through made up 'personal experiences'

He is the disease not the symptoms..a very dangerous man for he encourages people to react by his egging on and goading..

He is the type who starts the trouble while remaining firmly at the back..BUT he made a racist remark sometime ago and I saved it...thats the hook we will hang the PP on if the proper authorities do not deal with the matter..

I really do hope this racist scumbag is in a job with the local government or civil servant of some type...

You cure the disease not the symptoms.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: There may be a few people that are wondering why there is such a fuss about travellers and why people get so anxious when there ISNA prospect of travellers moving in near them. If you are one of these people that are unaware of the problems that cause, and why they are so disliked, forget about the insult exchanges going on in the thread above and find out the facts for yourself. You can do some research on the internet, there is plenty of clalm, reasoned information out there, but nothing beats first hand experience. Take a walk down any public road or lane that they have taken over. You will very probably have the deeply unpleasant experience of an encounter with one or more travellers, or their equally inclined children. Talk to people unfortunate enough to live near them, you will find out how hellish this can be for civilised people. Of course the "last year" writer will get hot under the collar at my suggestion, he really doesn't want people to find out about the nature of travellers if they do not already know. He says travellers are not an antisocial problem, so he should want people to know the truth and should be pleased at my suggestion. Oh dear, he really can't win can he. Smiffy22[/p][/quote]Oh here he is.."I'm only saying what all racists think about Travellers..does that make me a racist" I would say rabid racists like you are more disliked in this country than Travellers are.. Apparently little toad, you have trespassed on their land..and been told to get off it..and you ran like the cur you are. You cannot claim to be 'civilised' with your hateful ideology..you are a uncivilised psychologically flawed individual...and you have only this forum to spew your racist bile on..you would be hounded off any other reasonable forum. The fact you taint ALL Travellers ie over 360,000 people, as being one and the same compartmentalises you..RACIST scum! Are you also guilty of crimes and attitudes of the community you come from? Is all your community the same? You implications would suggest you are as much guilty of the foulest crimes committed by your community.. Your generalising displays your intelligence..you are a weak little man with a hate of Travellers that you hide from us but which has been mentioned before.. Its racist scum like you who cant win..this country rejects racism..ask any MP, any celeb, any one in public office, any decent minded civilised person..thus racist toerags like you are also rejected..and by the majority of your own community.... You are a dying breed and the sooner the country is rid of your stench the better..we live in a multicultural country..dont like it? Pack your rags and leave, you wont be missed.[/p][/quote]Ah, as expected, an angry rant full of personal abuse. What is it you are frightened of, is it people finding out for themselves the reality of the unpleasant nature of travellers? Of course it is. It certainly can't be that you're afraid of people finding that they are lovely folks! In your angry rants you (as usual) bend the truth to suit your own ends. For example, in no way did I say anything about walking on Travellers' private property, you made that up. I clearly said people should walk down "public roads or lanes" that have been taken over by travellers (but they should not walk there alone). My own most recent experience of a casual stroll down such a road led to a very unpleasant character following me down the road, eventually catching up with me (I had no desire to talk with him, but he was insistent). A rather unpleasant encounter ensued which could have led to a ruck (for which I have no desire). Fortunately I was not alone, otherwise that might have been the result. We managed to terminate the conversation with this vile person and continued on our way, but I was left in no doubt about the danger we were in, given he obviously had a number of "friends" on which he could call. You also suggested I hide my dislike of these people (or to be more accurate, the way they behave), nothing could be further from the truth, I am quite open about my feelings here. But hey, why would you let the bare facts get in the way of your rantings in your futile attempts to defend the indefensible. So, rant and abuse away. Every time you do this, you illustrate your inability to defend them and lend weight to those that oppose travellers. Long may you continue to entertain us :-) Regards, Smiffy22[/p][/quote]As soon as I saw the username my first reaction was Erwww..but i suppose I have to reply to you.. I find your personally repugnant and repellent and so my post honestly reflects that. You post your filthy slurs and innuendo about a whole communities and feel you are passing on information..you are a racial inciter and I am seriously thinking of taking a private prosecution out against you just to get you into court to have a look at the monster.. As all but the most disgusting will be aware of is; there are good and bad in every community..for instance not all the community are complete trash like you..thank goodness. You lies, generalisation and stereotyping only appeal to the dross on the forum which you are fully part off..you are much worse than the worse of the people you malign. It would seem you warn people about walking down roads where your figures of hate reside and then you do just that..constantly. your a shitehawk..a born liar and degenerate if there ever was one. As I stated your kind are a dying breed and will be looked upon, if even considered, as a frightened little man who frustrated to the nth lies and feels threatened by people who do not even know your there as you slither by... You walk very carefully on here but I have a post from you to base my prosecution on..I dont care what it cost...others are also aware of your incitement, a whip round might be in the pipeline to get you where you should be..in court...I do hope you have a high paying job.. I usually dont do hate but for you I suspend that..You are worse than the most vocal racist..for you are a inciter and insidious..[/p][/quote]Dude, you've got to get a grip! ... What you've just written is way over the top!!![/p][/quote]The poster it was aimed at is worse than any person spouting racist claptrap out of ignorance...this is a poster inciting hate and denigrating communities through made up 'personal experiences' He is the disease not the symptoms..a very dangerous man for he encourages people to react by his egging on and goading.. He is the type who starts the trouble while remaining firmly at the back..BUT he made a racist remark sometime ago and I saved it...thats the hook we will hang the PP on if the proper authorities do not deal with the matter.. I really do hope this racist scumbag is in a job with the local government or civil servant of some type... You cure the disease not the symptoms. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

9:06pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree


press.co.uk/news/112


01302.Travellers_lea


ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb


ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
Your argument is like trying to defend paedophilia by saying the it's not so bad, the Catholic Church have been doing it for years.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]Your argument is like trying to defend paedophilia by saying the it's not so bad, the Catholic Church have been doing it for years. blackheart
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree



press.co.uk/news/112



01302.Travellers_lea



ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb



ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:19pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree




press.co.uk/news/112




01302.Travellers_lea




ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb




ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Mattster wrote:
Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.
Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them.

Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?
Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.
You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers?

I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do.

The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..
I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval.

Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.
So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it..

Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do..

Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have?

Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it

"Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you."

Isn't that the race card?

"Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either.

You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it..
That post says all that needs to be said about you.

If I get refused planning permission, that's tough. If you get refused, that's racism.........and that is the race card! .......hello, anybody in!

As to why I would follow the correct planning procedure, the answer is obvious. Why invest thousands building an extension on the arrogant assumption that you will get permission and then have to knock it all down.

It's an idiot's choice.

The other, and possibly more important reasons are that i support the preservation of green belt and i vote. What gives you the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the representatives of the majority? Do things the right way or Feck off.

If if costs councils money to keep you in you place, so be it.
My post doesn't imply what you inferred and post..(see how it is?)

I have not said planning permission refused is racist have I?

There are many nimby refusals which are based on the culture of the people applying and that really isn't in dispute..so again you make a claim which really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The race card isn't an exclusive card as I have already made mention of...its clear you dont understand that concept..and so ignore the explaining of it.

You ask if there is anyone in...Im not sure you could answer that if asked the same question...you are pathologically stupid and that is an assessment I have made after a few years responding to your idiotic posts.

The "arrogant assumption" you refer to might be seen as stupid especially if its a man building a extension to house his train set...but when people do it so they can have respite from travelling the roads it is a different preposition..but I dont expect you to be able to realise and understand that.

The main point is; retro planning apps are not the exclusive to Travellers..who have more reason to follow that permissible way of things.

You may be suyrprised to know only a small amount of planning apps for Travellers is GB..YET planning permission is still often refused...

A piece of ground In a county that was used for travelling fairs and circus for years went up for sale, was bought and then applied for permission for a caravan park (what it had basically been used for for years) and it was refused..

What gives people the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the authorities..you have to ask that question?

Its the right of choice, the right to life, the right to live by what you think is right or wrong..its democracy..

The thing is; if you dont like retro planning permission then fight to get it changed...if its not that important to you then follow your own advice and find something more important for you to fret over.

If you are happy with the council wasting money on moving people on rather than allowing them to provide for themselves or by providing for them then stop complaining on these boards about the very same..
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: Surely once 'travelers' buy land to set up permanent home they cease being 'travelers' and simply become residents subject to all the same laws and regulations.[/p][/quote]Lets try to explain this as simply as I can; The epithet is bestowed on the cultures by society..therefore they do not have to adhere to a name given to them. Can you explain what laws and regulations you feel dont apply to them regardless of whatever name society knows then as?[/p][/quote]Well planning permission for one, I cannot think of another group of people who routinely buy land with no permission for development with the express intent of developing it without that permission and then submitting retrospective applications.[/p][/quote]You feel the planning permission doesn't apply to Travellers? I wish you would tell councils that, they seem to think they do. The fact you dont know of such people or indeed companies buying and then retro applying only displays your ignorance...do a little research and be amazed..[/p][/quote]I know many people who have had to knock down their house extension after retro planning permission was refused. Councils don't like retro planning applications. Apply first then build after approval. Knock it down with only yourself to blame. Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you. We can not play the race card. - or in you case the lifestyle card. Travelers are not race.[/p][/quote]So the people built without permission and then applied retro and then knocked down what they built without permission..so where the problem..it only seems to be a problem when Travellers do it.. Who cares what council like or dislike..? They are employed by US..they work for us not us for them...They need to consider what we want and think and not the other way around..you comment shows how much of an ant you are..how dumbed down you are till you feel those who work for us have the say in what we can and cant do.. Can you explain what rights you think you dont have that Travellers have? Re: the mythical race card..haven't you just played it "Of course, we do not have the same "rights" as you." Isn't that the race card? "Traveller" is not an entity its an epithet given to a wide range of cultures who have a cosmetically similar mode of living..nothing to do with lifestyle either. You really dont know what you post about but then its has never stopped you has it..[/p][/quote]That post says all that needs to be said about you. If I get refused planning permission, that's tough. If you get refused, that's racism.........and that is the race card! .......hello, anybody in! As to why I would follow the correct planning procedure, the answer is obvious. Why invest thousands building an extension on the arrogant assumption that you will get permission and then have to knock it all down. It's an idiot's choice. The other, and possibly more important reasons are that i support the preservation of green belt and i vote. What gives you the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the representatives of the majority? Do things the right way or Feck off. If if costs councils money to keep you in you place, so be it.[/p][/quote]My post doesn't imply what you inferred and post..(see how it is?) I have not said planning permission refused is racist have I? There are many nimby refusals which are based on the culture of the people applying and that really isn't in dispute..so again you make a claim which really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The race card isn't an exclusive card as I have already made mention of...its clear you dont understand that concept..and so ignore the explaining of it. You ask if there is anyone in...Im not sure you could answer that if asked the same question...you are pathologically stupid and that is an assessment I have made after a few years responding to your idiotic posts. The "arrogant assumption" you refer to might be seen as stupid especially if its a man building a extension to house his train set...but when people do it so they can have respite from travelling the roads it is a different preposition..but I dont expect you to be able to realise and understand that. The main point is; retro planning apps are not the exclusive to Travellers..who have more reason to follow that permissible way of things. You may be suyrprised to know only a small amount of planning apps for Travellers is GB..YET planning permission is still often refused... A piece of ground In a county that was used for travelling fairs and circus for years went up for sale, was bought and then applied for permission for a caravan park (what it had basically been used for for years) and it was refused.. What gives people the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the authorities..you have to ask that question? Its the right of choice, the right to life, the right to live by what you think is right or wrong..its democracy.. The thing is; if you dont like retro planning permission then fight to get it changed...if its not that important to you then follow your own advice and find something more important for you to fret over. If you are happy with the council wasting money on moving people on rather than allowing them to provide for themselves or by providing for them then stop complaining on these boards about the very same.. ThisYear
  • Score: -3

9:31pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree





press.co.uk/news/112





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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..[/p][/quote]And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level.. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

9:33pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree



press.co.uk/news/112



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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
Your argument is like trying to defend paedophilia by saying the it's not so bad, the Catholic Church have been doing it for years.
My argument has nothing to do with pedophiles at all..and Im sure you could come up with a much more appropriate analogy..why you didn't is for you to consider.
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]Your argument is like trying to defend paedophilia by saying the it's not so bad, the Catholic Church have been doing it for years.[/p][/quote]My argument has nothing to do with pedophiles at all..and Im sure you could come up with a much more appropriate analogy..why you didn't is for you to consider. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:34pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree






press.co.uk/news/112






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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..
But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..[/p][/quote]And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..[/p][/quote]But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste. blackheart
  • Score: 4

9:40pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree







press.co.uk/news/112







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ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb







ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..
But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.
Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..[/p][/quote]And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..[/p][/quote]But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.[/p][/quote]Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:43pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree








press.co.uk/news/112








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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..
But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.
Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do?
I'm sure you can work it out, if you try real hard.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..[/p][/quote]And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..[/p][/quote]But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.[/p][/quote]Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do?[/p][/quote]I'm sure you can work it out, if you try real hard. blackheart
  • Score: 5

9:51pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree









press.co.uk/news/112









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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...
But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?
It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..
And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..
But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.
Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do?
I'm sure you can work it out, if you try real hard.
Thats really not an answer is it...why be so relucdent to follow on for something you imply..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]I guess there were no bins on the beach either then ...[/p][/quote]But of course the Traveller rubbish is more to complain about than the other rubbish.Why is that?[/p][/quote]It is when it's a regular occurrence ... Nobody likes to see junk left behind, traveller or not ..[/p][/quote]And as I stated, humans the world over cause waste...its a human thing...everyone does it to some level..[/p][/quote]But not all humans like to have everyone else wade knee deep in their waste.[/p][/quote]Im sure most dont..do you feel there are some who do?[/p][/quote]I'm sure you can work it out, if you try real hard.[/p][/quote]Thats really not an answer is it...why be so relucdent to follow on for something you imply.. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

9:56pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree


press.co.uk/news/112


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ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 4

9:57pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it. blackheart
  • Score: 3

10:06pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree



press.co.uk/news/112



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ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb



ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..
By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area?

So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..[/p][/quote]By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area? So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea? ThisYear
  • Score: -5

10:12pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it.. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

10:16pm Sat 10 May 14

InTheKnowOk says...

ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree




press.co.uk/news/112




01302.Travellers_lea




ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb




ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..
By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area?

So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?
Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for ..
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..[/p][/quote]By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area? So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?[/p][/quote]Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for .. InTheKnowOk
  • Score: 4

10:20pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done. blackheart
  • Score: 6

10:25pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree





press.co.uk/news/112





01302.Travellers_lea





ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb





ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..
By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area?

So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?
Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for ..
Unless you look seven miles from any McDonalds.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..[/p][/quote]By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area? So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?[/p][/quote]Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for ..[/p][/quote]Unless you look seven miles from any McDonalds. blackheart
  • Score: 1

10:35pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it? blackheart
  • Score: 4

10:46pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
InTheKnowOk wrote:
This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link ....

http://www.bucksfree





press.co.uk/news/112





01302.Travellers_lea





ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb





ish_in_High_Wycombe/
Ok Ive read the link..First off

The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind."

This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities..

2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste.

Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..
They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..
By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area?

So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?
Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for ..
Then maybe the council are changing people fraudulently to sweep up the roads..CT is paid for much more than collecting rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InTheKnowOk[/bold] wrote: This Year ... Put your blinkers on ... Here is your link .... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/112 01302.Travellers_lea ve_15_tonnes_of_rubb ish_in_High_Wycombe/[/p][/quote]Ok Ive read the link..First off The link states "In total two rubbish trucks which carry room for 7.5 tonnes of rubbish removed what was left behind." This does not mean 15 tonnes of rubbish was left behind..from the picture it would not even seem a tonne of the stuff. The paper implys rather than states..which os the way of the media when reporting on stories about Travellers and other ethnic minorities.. 2ndly.. this was the debris of over 30 caravans over a week (3 people per caravan = 90 people)..there being no bins or skips to put the rubbish in. It would be the same for any group of 90 people..Humans make waste. Now about the 10 tonnes of rubbish dumped on southend beach last summer in one day..any comment on that..[/p][/quote]They left 67 tonnes of rubbish last year in Sydenham, it cost 9k to clean it up .. No bins, but then it was a car park ..[/p][/quote]By 'they'I take it you mean Travellers..you looked that up, did you look up how much rubbish non-Travellers left in the area? So it cost 9k..how much does it cost to clean the roads off rubbish? Any idea?[/p][/quote]Can't say I've seen tonnes of rubbish on the roads .. I do however, see black, pink and green sacks left on grass verges at appropriate times on a Friday morning though .. That's the right way of doing it isn't it? but then that's what we pay our Council Tax for ..[/p][/quote]Then maybe the council are changing people fraudulently to sweep up the roads..CT is paid for much more than collecting rubbish. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

10:50pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about? ThisYear
  • Score: -7

10:53pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak? ThisYear
  • Score: -5

10:54pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again. blackheart
  • Score: 5

10:56pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it. blackheart
  • Score: 4

11:02pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts.. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

11:06pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.[/p][/quote]But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:06pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time. blackheart
  • Score: 4

11:09pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?
I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.[/p][/quote]But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?[/p][/quote]I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it. blackheart
  • Score: 4

11:18pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?
I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.
Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy..

" cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.."

Im not sure you understand what it is your saying..

I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.[/p][/quote]But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?[/p][/quote]I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.[/p][/quote]Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy.. " cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.." Im not sure you understand what it is your saying.. I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin.. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:25pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?
I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.
Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy..

" cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.."

Im not sure you understand what it is your saying..

I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin..
So, your conclusion as to why people dump rubbish is......

"myriad reasons"

Wow thanks for that insight, really thought provoking.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.[/p][/quote]But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?[/p][/quote]I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.[/p][/quote]Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy.. " cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.." Im not sure you understand what it is your saying.. I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin..[/p][/quote]So, your conclusion as to why people dump rubbish is...... "myriad reasons" Wow thanks for that insight, really thought provoking. blackheart
  • Score: 1

11:27pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant.. ThisYear
  • Score: -3

11:30pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
I already did.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..[/p][/quote]I already did. blackheart
  • Score: 4

11:30pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?
Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining?

You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so?

Are you a fetish freak?
I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.
But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?
I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.
Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy..

" cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.."

Im not sure you understand what it is your saying..

I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin..
So, your conclusion as to why people dump rubbish is......

"myriad reasons"

Wow thanks for that insight, really thought provoking.
Of course, are you saying rubbish dumping it isn't for myriad reasons?

But of course you seem to think its for some sort of gratification..is that mental or psychical gratification? Do you know?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]So if you don't feel that people who leave their rubbish for others enjoy it, why do you suppose they do it?[/p][/quote]Before I give one or two obvious answers to your question can we first be quite clear what you are maintaining? You are NOW stating that people consciously leave their rubbish for people to enjoy? And they, the people who leave the rubbish, get some sort of kick from doing so? Are you a fetish freak?[/p][/quote]I wasn't stating anything I was asking you why YOU thought people did it.[/p][/quote]But you have been saying these things..you have implied people leave their rubbish because they like people to wade through it AND that rubbish is left for people to enjoy...both comments imply what I have said..now why do you think either is the case?[/p][/quote]I have been saying those things. Your last post emphasised "NOW" implying (one of your favourite words) I was changing my view, which I wasn't. PLEASE try to keep up. It is my view that people who dump rubbish must get some enjoyment from it. Your view is that they possibly don't so I was asking you why YOU thought they did it. That was rather a long sentence but if you take it slow you should be able to understand it.[/p][/quote]Finally you have answered a question..so you feel when some people leave/dump rubbish they actually enjoy doing it...can you explain why you have come to that conclusion? It sounds a bit fetishy.. " cor, hmm, lovely, ill just leave me bin bag behind and someone will see it..cor love a duck.." Im not sure you understand what it is your saying.. I believe people dump or leave rubbish behind them for myriad reasons..all of which have noting to do with enjoyment, gratification or fetish...you seem to think it is about that..but I suppose its whatever empties your bin..[/p][/quote]So, your conclusion as to why people dump rubbish is...... "myriad reasons" Wow thanks for that insight, really thought provoking.[/p][/quote]Of course, are you saying rubbish dumping it isn't for myriad reasons? But of course you seem to think its for some sort of gratification..is that mental or psychical gratification? Do you know? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:34pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
I already did.
Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them..

No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..[/p][/quote]I already did.[/p][/quote]Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them.. No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:37pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK. blackheart
  • Score: 5

11:41pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
I already did.
Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them..

No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.
Do you even know what a bigot is?

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

like 150 million Americans living in trailers. Utter rot but you are obstinately devoted to calling it a fact.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..[/p][/quote]I already did.[/p][/quote]Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them.. No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.[/p][/quote]Do you even know what a bigot is? a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices like 150 million Americans living in trailers. Utter rot but you are obstinately devoted to calling it a fact. blackheart
  • Score: 3

11:46pm Sat 10 May 14

profondo asbo says...

got bigots, bins and bs?
got bigots, bins and bs? profondo asbo
  • Score: 2

11:48pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
I already did.
Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them..

No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.
BTW I did not say you are a racist bigot I said you are a loony bigot.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..[/p][/quote]I already did.[/p][/quote]Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them.. No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.[/p][/quote]BTW I did not say you are a racist bigot I said you are a loony bigot. blackheart
  • Score: 0

11:49pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views? ThisYear
  • Score: -5

11:50pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
Your views being "myriad reasons"?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]Your views being "myriad reasons"? blackheart
  • Score: 2

11:52pm Sat 10 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh!
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh! blackheart
  • Score: 4

11:52pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste....

Option A) People who clean up after themselves.

or B) People who leave all their rubbish around.

Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us.

No cheating now, really think about it.
Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course.

Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..
Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it.

Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.
No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this..

I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit..

You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go?

Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?
Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others?

As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition.

There you go, proved again.
I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot?

But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot?

You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..
You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired.

I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual.

I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no.

I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.
Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you?

At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr.

Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views?

BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..
I already did.
Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them..

No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.
BTW I did not say you are a racist bigot I said you are a loony bigot.
In other threads you claimed this..and you were implying that when you first started on this thread..it has taken an age to get you to say why you accuse me of being a loony bigot and now we know..the fact the reason isn't valid is more shame to pour on you..

Now your own reasoning on why Im a loony bigot..does not the same reason apply to you?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Well, let's see what are the options for people that might like others to wade in their waste.... Option A) People who clean up after themselves. or B) People who leave all their rubbish around. Hmmm. tricky, I can see how you're struggling. No, I'm not going to tell you, have a hard think and if you still can't get it, come back to us. No cheating now, really think about it.[/p][/quote]Im sure the country has people from all parts, colours, creeds and cultures who are more messy than others within their own communities and other communities..the 10 tonnes on the beach for instance..dumped by messy people probably from a mix of colour, race, culture creed...not all did it of course. Im not sure your contention that people who leave waste behind them actually do it because they like people to wade in it....that seems to be a little connived...unless of course you have some evidence that people drop their litter to get a thrill out of someone 'wading' through it..[/p][/quote]Not sure why you're so fixated on race, colour or creed, I didn't mention it. Anyway even if you can't work out A or B, pat yourself on the back that's over 3 posts from you now with no abuse, you're doing brilliantly and acting very grown up. Well done.[/p][/quote]No fixation, I merely make the point rubbish is dumped by all human beings..not just one or two communities, as many might take from reading the posts on threads like this.. I'm not sure you would understand what an insult was to be honest so why waste 'bullets' on a twit.. You still haven't dealt with the 'loony bigotry' fancy giving it a go? Nor have you explained who gets some sort of satisfaction from others wading through their rubbish..is this a fetish thing you are into or talking about?[/p][/quote]Ah you were doing so well too. Now, what have we talked about you playing nicely with others? As I've told you too many times, I've already proved you are a bigot, but, then again, bigots don't listen by that very definition. There you go, proved again.[/p][/quote]I see, so because I call you a 'twit' that makes me a loony bigot? But by your own reasoning doesn't that also make you a loony bigot? You are now relentlessly ignoring questions from me in regards to your posts..[/p][/quote]You're not even following the most basic of English now are you? Perhaps you're getting tired. I'll try to keep this as simple as I can for you as usual. I did not say that you calling me a twit makes you a loony bigot did I? Did I, read it again slowly, no. I said you are a bigot because you do not listen to views other than your own. A point that is proved by the fact that you obviously didn't listen the last time I spelled it out simply for you and , it seems , neither did you this time.[/p][/quote]Ah you poor soul..you're getting tied up in your own string and now its because people cant understand what you are saying..you suffer for your cause dont you? At last..you answer the 'loony bigotry' claim and its because I dont listen to others views..BUT I do dont I for I reply to them..how could I reply taking their content into consideration if I didn't listen to them..Derrrrrrr. Perhaps you mean Im a 'loony bigot' because I dont agree with most of them...does that make you a loony bigot because you dont agree with any of my views? BTW post up when you actually explained this bigot claim before your last post..I think you will find you cant..[/p][/quote]I already did.[/p][/quote]Can you actually post your claims up rather than just pretending you did..You have now tried to change your original claims that i was a racial bigot to one who doesn't listen to other views..rather pathetically when you consider I have to consider views to reply to them.. No point beating you like a rug anymore on the point..you have been caught out and now try to suck and dive to avoid the shame..take it..its yours.[/p][/quote]BTW I did not say you are a racist bigot I said you are a loony bigot.[/p][/quote]In other threads you claimed this..and you were implying that when you first started on this thread..it has taken an age to get you to say why you accuse me of being a loony bigot and now we know..the fact the reason isn't valid is more shame to pour on you.. Now your own reasoning on why Im a loony bigot..does not the same reason apply to you? ThisYear
  • Score: -3

11:54pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
got bigots, bins and bs?
Oh go away you boring old f**t...none capitalised one liners that a dribbling idiot would be ashamed of is so out of date..
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got bigots, bins and bs?[/p][/quote]Oh go away you boring old f**t...none capitalised one liners that a dribbling idiot would be ashamed of is so out of date.. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:55pm Sat 10 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
Your views being "myriad reasons"?
My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]Your views being "myriad reasons"?[/p][/quote]My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

11:59pm Sat 10 May 14

profondo asbo says...

got oscar the grouch?
got ageism?
got oscar the grouch? got ageism? profondo asbo
  • Score: 4

12:00am Sun 11 May 14

Alekhine says...

My post doesn't imply what you inferred and post..(see how it is?)
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It took you 3 days of getting slapped by other posters before you were eventually told that you were right. Childish but fun, it did give me a bit of a chuckle.

How about " i would never assume anything". Remember the male chicken that you made out of that one.
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I have not said planning permission refused is racist have I?

There are many nimby refusals which are based on the culture of the people applying and that really isn't in dispute..so again you make a claim which really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
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Are you not capable of seeing the ridiculous contradiction in your above 2 points?

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The race card isn't an exclusive card as I have already made mention of...its clear you dont understand that concept..and so ignore the explaining of it.
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So now the race card does exist. You said it was mythical a few days ago. Do make up what passes for your mind.
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You ask if there is anyone in...Im not sure you could answer that if asked the same question...you are pathologically stupid and that is an assessment I have made after a few years responding to your idiotic posts.
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Why do you feel the need to reply to my and every other post? You could always STFU. Meanwhile your assessments are as accurate as the rest of the nonsense you spew forth.
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The "arrogant assumption" you refer to might be seen as stupid especially if its a man building a extension to house his train set...but when people do it so they can have respite from travelling the roads it is a different preposition..but I dont expect you to be able to realise and understand that.
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Building is building. It all goes through the same process. It makes not a jot of difference if it for a train set. Try understanding that.

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The main point is; retro planning apps are not the exclusive to Travellers..who have more reason to follow that permissible way of things.
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I know retro planning is not exclusive to travellers.

who have more reason to what?...hahaha.....c
an you explain travellers utter failure to follow the permissable way?

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You may be suyrprised to know only a small amount of planning apps for Travellers is GB..YET planning permission is still often refused...

A piece of ground In a county that was used for travelling fairs and circus for years went up for sale, was bought and then applied for permission for a caravan park (what it had basically been used for for years) and it was refused..

What gives people the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the authorities..you have to ask that question?
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Have you asked the council? The reasons for a refusal are always published.
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Its the right of choice, the right to life, the right to live by what you think is right or wrong..its democracy..
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You are clearly mistaking democracy for anarchy. Democracy is the will of the majority whether you like it or not,

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The thing is; if you dont like retro planning permission then fight to get it changed...if its not that important to you then follow your own advice and find something more important for you to fret over.
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Retro planning apps are for lazy risk takers. If the development is suitable it will be approved, it not, they will have to knock it down. Why should i want to change that?
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If you are happy with the council wasting money on moving people on rather than allowing them to provide for themselves or by providing for them then stop complaining on these boards about the very same..
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I object to the green belt being damaged and the planning system being abused. As for wasting money, well, that depends on your definition of waste does it not?
My post doesn't imply what you inferred and post..(see how it is?) ... It took you 3 days of getting slapped by other posters before you were eventually told that you were right. Childish but fun, it did give me a bit of a chuckle. How about " i would never assume anything". Remember the male chicken that you made out of that one. .... I have not said planning permission refused is racist have I? There are many nimby refusals which are based on the culture of the people applying and that really isn't in dispute..so again you make a claim which really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. .... Are you not capable of seeing the ridiculous contradiction in your above 2 points? .... The race card isn't an exclusive card as I have already made mention of...its clear you dont understand that concept..and so ignore the explaining of it. ... So now the race card does exist. You said it was mythical a few days ago. Do make up what passes for your mind. ..... You ask if there is anyone in...Im not sure you could answer that if asked the same question...you are pathologically stupid and that is an assessment I have made after a few years responding to your idiotic posts. ..... Why do you feel the need to reply to my and every other post? You could always STFU. Meanwhile your assessments are as accurate as the rest of the nonsense you spew forth. ..... The "arrogant assumption" you refer to might be seen as stupid especially if its a man building a extension to house his train set...but when people do it so they can have respite from travelling the roads it is a different preposition..but I dont expect you to be able to realise and understand that. ...... Building is building. It all goes through the same process. It makes not a jot of difference if it for a train set. Try understanding that. ..... The main point is; retro planning apps are not the exclusive to Travellers..who have more reason to follow that permissible way of things. ..... I know retro planning is not exclusive to travellers. who have more reason to what?...hahaha.....c an you explain travellers utter failure to follow the permissable way? ...... You may be suyrprised to know only a small amount of planning apps for Travellers is GB..YET planning permission is still often refused... A piece of ground In a county that was used for travelling fairs and circus for years went up for sale, was bought and then applied for permission for a caravan park (what it had basically been used for for years) and it was refused.. What gives people the right to ignore the procedures put in place by the authorities..you have to ask that question? ..... Have you asked the council? The reasons for a refusal are always published. ....... Its the right of choice, the right to life, the right to live by what you think is right or wrong..its democracy.. ...... You are clearly mistaking democracy for anarchy. Democracy is the will of the majority whether you like it or not, ...... The thing is; if you dont like retro planning permission then fight to get it changed...if its not that important to you then follow your own advice and find something more important for you to fret over. ..... Retro planning apps are for lazy risk takers. If the development is suitable it will be approved, it not, they will have to knock it down. Why should i want to change that? .... If you are happy with the council wasting money on moving people on rather than allowing them to provide for themselves or by providing for them then stop complaining on these boards about the very same.. ... I object to the green belt being damaged and the planning system being abused. As for wasting money, well, that depends on your definition of waste does it not? Alekhine
  • Score: 6

12:00am Sun 11 May 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
Your views being "myriad reasons"?
My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?
not because they're uncivilised pigs?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]Your views being "myriad reasons"?[/p][/quote]My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?[/p][/quote]not because they're uncivilised pigs? profondo asbo
  • Score: 5

12:01am Sun 11 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
Your views being "myriad reasons"?
My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?
Did you really just say that?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]Your views being "myriad reasons"?[/p][/quote]My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?[/p][/quote]Did you really just say that? blackheart
  • Score: 4

12:02am Sun 11 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh!
I think you are losing the plot, I have never asked you to reproduce the time you proved me a bigot..I asked you to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot..of course we now know you couldn't of proven me a bigot because the reason you accused me of being a bigot for isn't valid is it?

And so this is why you have never been able to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot until this thread..

You have talked yourself into a hole and instead of shutting up you continue to show your stupidity by continuing to do so going deeper and deeper into the hole..

But lets ask again, if Im a loony bigot because I dont listen to anyone else's views are you not also a loony bigot for not listening to mine? Can you reply to that?
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh![/p][/quote]I think you are losing the plot, I have never asked you to reproduce the time you proved me a bigot..I asked you to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot..of course we now know you couldn't of proven me a bigot because the reason you accused me of being a bigot for isn't valid is it? And so this is why you have never been able to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot until this thread.. You have talked yourself into a hole and instead of shutting up you continue to show your stupidity by continuing to do so going deeper and deeper into the hole.. But lets ask again, if Im a loony bigot because I dont listen to anyone else's views are you not also a loony bigot for not listening to mine? Can you reply to that? ThisYear
  • Score: -4

12:05am Sun 11 May 14

blackheart says...

ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh!
I think you are losing the plot, I have never asked you to reproduce the time you proved me a bigot..I asked you to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot..of course we now know you couldn't of proven me a bigot because the reason you accused me of being a bigot for isn't valid is it?

And so this is why you have never been able to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot until this thread..

You have talked yourself into a hole and instead of shutting up you continue to show your stupidity by continuing to do so going deeper and deeper into the hole..

But lets ask again, if Im a loony bigot because I dont listen to anyone else's views are you not also a loony bigot for not listening to mine? Can you reply to that?
Once again I just did. Your views as far as I can make out are "myriad reasons" How can I listen to that it doesn't say anything.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]It was YOU who asked ME to reproduce the time I proved you are a bigot, sheesh![/p][/quote]I think you are losing the plot, I have never asked you to reproduce the time you proved me a bigot..I asked you to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot..of course we now know you couldn't of proven me a bigot because the reason you accused me of being a bigot for isn't valid is it? And so this is why you have never been able to produce the posts where you explained why I was a bigot until this thread.. You have talked yourself into a hole and instead of shutting up you continue to show your stupidity by continuing to do so going deeper and deeper into the hole.. But lets ask again, if Im a loony bigot because I dont listen to anyone else's views are you not also a loony bigot for not listening to mine? Can you reply to that?[/p][/quote]Once again I just did. Your views as far as I can make out are "myriad reasons" How can I listen to that it doesn't say anything. blackheart
  • Score: 4

12:06am Sun 11 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.

Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense?

Myriad Reasons!

Oh OK.
Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread..

Lets just see if you can reply:

Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so?

Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?
Your views being "myriad reasons"?
My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?
Did you really just say that?
Oh dear..it really is shocking...you are as thick as a dopey catfish from a particularly muddy pond...

The question was and is; do you dispute people dump rubbish for myriad reasons? A simple Yes or No will do for a start and then we can take it from there
[quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackheart[/bold] wrote: Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question. Why do you maintain 150 million people in the USA live in trailers despite all the evidence pointed out to you that it is complete nonsense? Myriad Reasons! Oh OK.[/p][/quote]Oh the desperation..you refer to another thread because you are getting battered with the contents of your own pathertic c;aoms and conclisions on this thread.. Lets just see if you can reply: Do you feel rubbish is only dumped because people get some sort of gratification from doing so? Do you feel you may be a loony bigot, by your own reasoning, because you dont listen to my views?[/p][/quote]Your views being "myriad reasons"?[/p][/quote]My VIEW is; people dump rubbish for myriad reasons..do you dispute that?[/p][/quote]Did you really just say that?[/p][/quote]Oh dear..it really is shocking...you are as thick as a dopey catfish from a particularly muddy pond... The question was and is; do you dispute people dump rubbish for myriad reasons? A simple Yes or No will do for a start and then we can take it from there ThisYear
  • Score: -4

12:08am Sun 11 May 14

ThisYear says...

blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
blackheart wrote:
Here we go. You cracked it. An answer for any question.