Only one in six want Boris Island airport

Only one in six want Boris Island airport

Only one in six want Boris Island airport

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ONLY one in six people back a “Boris island” airport that would entail closing Heathrow, City and Southend airports, according to a new poll.

More than a third of respondents to the survey backed the idea of a new airport on the Isle of Grain, in Kent, championed by London mayor Boris Johnson.

However, support fell to just 16 per cent when respondents were told it would result in the closure of existing facilities.

John Lamb, leader of Southend Council’s Conservative group, said: “The survey quite rightly showed people are totally against a Thames Estuary airport – and I believe they are right.

“We don’t need a Thames Estuary airport and I will fight it tooth and nail.

“This survey is a true reflection of the opposition in Medway, Kent and Southend.”

Results of the poll, commissioned by Medway Council and Kent County Council, of 2,000 people, came on the final day for people to comment about the plans.

Evidence for and against the estuary airport must be submitted to the Airports Commission, which is looking at how to increase airport capacity in south east England, by today.

Mr Johnson has submitted a report with research from the Civil Aviation Authority, showing one million people will be subjected to harmful noise if a third runway is built at Heathrow.

Southend, Medway and Kent councils have submitted objections to the four-runway plan, which the commission admits would mean the closure of Southend Airport.

Mr Lamb said: “The estuary airport would need to be bigger than Heathrow to cope with the increased traffic.

“That would have an impact on shipping, which is coming up and down the Medway, to Tilbury and DP World ports.

“It will affect the fisheries and the whole ecology of the estuary.”

The commission is expected to publish a report on the estuary airport plan in July and decide whether to include it on the final shortlist, by September.

Its final report, detailing recommendations to Government, is expected in the summer of 2015.

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4:12pm Sun 25 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

That won't stop them trying to push it through.

When does anybody in power anywhere actually take into consideration what people think?
That won't stop them trying to push it through. When does anybody in power anywhere actually take into consideration what people think? Howard Cháse
  • Score: 9

4:21pm Sun 25 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

Although after the next general election brings Farage into power we might see a difference.....
Although after the next general election brings Farage into power we might see a difference..... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 7

5:08pm Sun 25 May 14

supermadmax says...

If boris jumped ship and joined UKIP politics would become very interesting...
If boris jumped ship and joined UKIP politics would become very interesting... supermadmax
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Sun 25 May 14

Jack222 says...

That many?

UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI.

Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...)

The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...
That many? UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI. Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...) The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ... Jack222
  • Score: 8

7:09pm Sun 25 May 14

LexyGirl says...

Jack222 wrote:
That many?

UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI.

Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...)

The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...
How dare anyone say that, I voted for UKIP and I'm neither elderly, poor (by that I mean i'm not living hand to mouth) or am I poorly educated. So they've got that wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: That many? UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI. Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...) The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...[/p][/quote]How dare anyone say that, I voted for UKIP and I'm neither elderly, poor (by that I mean i'm not living hand to mouth) or am I poorly educated. So they've got that wrong. LexyGirl
  • Score: 4

7:13pm Sun 25 May 14

ChampKind says...

Jack222 wrote:
That many?

UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI.

Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...)

The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...
Firstly, we import a lot more than we export, and do you honestly think that companies will stop buying/selling in the UK just because they'll have to fill out a couple of forms ?
Clegg has been spouting this nonsense for ages, but anyone who's not still in the sixth form should be able to see right through it.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: That many? UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI. Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...) The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...[/p][/quote]Firstly, we import a lot more than we export, and do you honestly think that companies will stop buying/selling in the UK just because they'll have to fill out a couple of forms ? Clegg has been spouting this nonsense for ages, but anyone who's not still in the sixth form should be able to see right through it. ChampKind
  • Score: 4

7:18pm Sun 25 May 14

John Right says...

supermadmax wrote:
If boris jumped ship and joined UKIP politics would become very interesting...
Boris and Gandy, imagine it..lol
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: If boris jumped ship and joined UKIP politics would become very interesting...[/p][/quote]Boris and Gandy, imagine it..lol John Right
  • Score: 1

8:11pm Sun 25 May 14

Gaz Michaels says...

LexyGirl wrote:
Jack222 wrote:
That many?

UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI.

Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...)

The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...
How dare anyone say that, I voted for UKIP and I'm neither elderly, poor (by that I mean i'm not living hand to mouth) or am I poorly educated. So they've got that wrong.
Interestingly, it was actually a UKIP spokesperson who said it, as she tried to explain why UKIP had failed to gain any impact in the London area.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
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Pretty bad if that's what the party thinks of its own voters.
[quote][p][bold]LexyGirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: That many? UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI. Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...) The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...[/p][/quote]How dare anyone say that, I voted for UKIP and I'm neither elderly, poor (by that I mean i'm not living hand to mouth) or am I poorly educated. So they've got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Interestingly, it was actually a UKIP spokesperson who said it, as she tried to explain why UKIP had failed to gain any impact in the London area. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2637468/Ukip-flops-L ondon-amid-claims-ca pitals-educated-cult ured-young-live-diff erent-country-else.h tml Pretty bad if that's what the party thinks of its own voters. Gaz Michaels
  • Score: 1

8:34pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

who conducted the poll? who commissioned the poll. until this is disclosed I will assume its echo newspaper bias again.
who conducted the poll? who commissioned the poll. until this is disclosed I will assume its echo newspaper bias again. jayman
  • Score: -4

8:40pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

oops. just saw the paragraph tucked in next to an add

"Results of the poll, commissioned by Medway Council and Kent County Council, of 2,000 people, came on the final day for people to comment about the plans."

come on echo.... Just 2000 'carefully selected' participants within a target area.. I have seen more depth in a coffee cup then in your reporting. If the council undertook the poll without some form of 'independent poll company' then its about as legitimate as a Tory love child...
oops. just saw the paragraph tucked in next to an add "Results of the poll, commissioned by Medway Council and Kent County Council, of 2,000 people, came on the final day for people to comment about the plans." come on echo.... Just 2000 'carefully selected' participants within a target area.. I have seen more depth in a coffee cup then in your reporting. If the council undertook the poll without some form of 'independent poll company' then its about as legitimate as a Tory love child... jayman
  • Score: -4

8:45pm Sun 25 May 14

mr.happy says...

Planes flying over my house into Southend Airport, or planes taking off and landing miles away over open water? I know which one I prefer.
Planes flying over my house into Southend Airport, or planes taking off and landing miles away over open water? I know which one I prefer. mr.happy
  • Score: -1

9:04pm Sun 25 May 14

leeharveyosmond says...

"Only one in six want Boris Island airport"?
I am most surprised as many as one in six do want it.
I think the pollsters must have picked their sample very carefully.
"Only one in six want Boris Island airport"? I am most surprised as many as one in six do want it. I think the pollsters must have picked their sample very carefully. leeharveyosmond
  • Score: 3

9:09pm Sun 25 May 14

Nebs says...

ChampKind wrote:
Jack222 wrote:
That many?

UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI.

Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...)

The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...
Firstly, we import a lot more than we export, and do you honestly think that companies will stop buying/selling in the UK just because they'll have to fill out a couple of forms ?
Clegg has been spouting this nonsense for ages, but anyone who's not still in the sixth form should be able to see right through it.
Airports take money out of the country too.
[quote][p][bold]ChampKind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: That many? UKIP? Still no MPs; percentage vote DOWN from last time. - only reason Councillors have increased is that it was against a time when they only stood for a few seats; ; no council control; 3 % support in London and smaller in Scotland and NI. Over 80 % of people voted for parties which reject the key policy of UKIP -the idiotic rejection of the EU (if we leave the EU there goes our export trade and there goes half our jobs...) The pollsters have checked UKIP support - its a mix of the elderly, the poor and the poorly educated. ...[/p][/quote]Firstly, we import a lot more than we export, and do you honestly think that companies will stop buying/selling in the UK just because they'll have to fill out a couple of forms ? Clegg has been spouting this nonsense for ages, but anyone who's not still in the sixth form should be able to see right through it.[/p][/quote]Airports take money out of the country too. Nebs
  • Score: -4

9:15pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports. jayman
  • Score: -4

9:26pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

John Right wrote:
jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
Go back to your day job, sweeping the gutters of Thorpe bay..
that is a noble profession but not one that I actually do.... Sorry to disappoint.
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]Go back to your day job, sweeping the gutters of Thorpe bay..[/p][/quote]that is a noble profession but not one that I actually do.... Sorry to disappoint. jayman
  • Score: 2

10:04pm Sun 25 May 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
"Unfounded question"

Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]"Unfounded question" Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make. costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
"Unfounded question"

Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.
prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..
[quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]"Unfounded question" Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.[/p][/quote]prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim.. jayman
  • Score: -1

10:10pm Sun 25 May 14

jayman says...

jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
"Unfounded question"

Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.
prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..
fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas!
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]"Unfounded question" Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.[/p][/quote]prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..[/p][/quote]fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas! jayman
  • Score: 0

11:04pm Sun 25 May 14

emcee says...

I asked six friends and family members. Three were for a new "Estuary Airport" and three were against.

As the people questioned in my poll were just as carefully chosen, the results of the poll conducted on behalf of Medway Council and Kent County Council is obviously wrong.
I asked six friends and family members. Three were for a new "Estuary Airport" and three were against. As the people questioned in my poll were just as carefully chosen, the results of the poll conducted on behalf of Medway Council and Kent County Council is obviously wrong. emcee
  • Score: -2

1:16am Mon 26 May 14

costa-del-blowfly says...

jayman wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
"Unfounded question"

Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.
prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..
fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas!
No, you pre-qualify a statement with no evidence/justificati
on.

Then when I question your position, you demand me to prove your position?

Strange.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]"Unfounded question" Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.[/p][/quote]prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..[/p][/quote]fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas![/p][/quote]No, you pre-qualify a statement with no evidence/justificati on. Then when I question your position, you demand me to prove your position? Strange. costa-del-blowfly
  • Score: 0

2:55am Mon 26 May 14

jayman says...

costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
jayman wrote:
costa-del-blowfly wrote:
jayman wrote:
upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject

Reporter, Jayman

A tale of two airports.

plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal

overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know'

when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority.

Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'.

-----

its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.
"Unfounded question"

Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.
prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..
fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas!
No, you pre-qualify a statement with no evidence/justificati

on.

Then when I question your position, you demand me to prove your position?

Strange.
The ball is in your court to prove me wrong. Its the standard position in an argument and there is nothing 'strange' about it at all..
[quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa-del-blowfly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: upon doing my own research I have decided to write my own article on the subject Reporter, Jayman A tale of two airports. plans to build a major international airport in the Thames estuary have come under more scrutiny as kent county council and Medway council release figures of a ComRes poll showing a range of data for support of the estuary airport proposal overall, net support for the proposed airport was at 38% whereas net opposition was at 17%. 45% responded as 'don't know' when the unfounded question of other airport closure was put forward to participants, 86% where not aware. This somewhat loaded and potentially misleading question is not supported by the civil aviation authority. Following this question, support for the airport drops to 13%. opposition increases to 57% with 29% responding as 'don't know'. ----- its seems the echo is not only bias in its reporting due to reflexivity because of its support for Southend airport but is also incapable of contrasting the data that it reports.[/p][/quote]"Unfounded question" Surely that's an incredibly loaded and biased statement to make.[/p][/quote]prove me wrong by providing CAA thoughts on the matter and I will gladly retract this claim..[/p][/quote]fact is all current airports could operate with an estuary airport arrangement. the respective airports have thrown their teddy bears out because it will effect nothing more then their profit margin and their favourable flight paths. turkeys wont vote for Christmas![/p][/quote]No, you pre-qualify a statement with no evidence/justificati on. Then when I question your position, you demand me to prove your position? Strange.[/p][/quote]The ball is in your court to prove me wrong. Its the standard position in an argument and there is nothing 'strange' about it at all.. jayman
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11:07am Mon 26 May 14

Howard Cháse says...

emcee wrote:
I asked six friends and family members. Three were for a new "Estuary Airport" and three were against.

As the people questioned in my poll were just as carefully chosen, the results of the poll conducted on behalf of Medway Council and Kent County Council is obviously wrong.
Everyone I asked was 100% against it.


Must stop talking to myself. ...
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: I asked six friends and family members. Three were for a new "Estuary Airport" and three were against. As the people questioned in my poll were just as carefully chosen, the results of the poll conducted on behalf of Medway Council and Kent County Council is obviously wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone I asked was 100% against it. Must stop talking to myself. ... Howard Cháse
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4:29pm Mon 26 May 14

runwellian says...

Boris is like an overgrown kid, how can anyone have any faith in what he wants! Scruffy, rude and out of touch!
Boris is like an overgrown kid, how can anyone have any faith in what he wants! Scruffy, rude and out of touch! runwellian
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12:36am Tue 27 May 14

LadyOr says...

Or 1 in 5 people see clear enough to figure out this is no short term solution. We need an expandable airport for the future, maybe 6 runway operating 24 hours daily.

Heathrow and Gatwick flightpaths over London too risky and polluting!
Or 1 in 5 people see clear enough to figure out this is no short term solution. We need an expandable airport for the future, maybe 6 runway operating 24 hours daily. Heathrow and Gatwick flightpaths over London too risky and polluting! LadyOr
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11:31am Fri 30 May 14

Graham5555 says...

This 'survey' by the echo is obvously biased against Boris Is.

It seems to me that with "More than a third of respondents to the survey backed the idea of a new airport on the Isle of Grain, in Kent" - Even the Echo cannot hide that this idea has a lot of popularity.

Try doing that poll in West London and you will get massive support for it. Millions of people from Blackheath to Hounslow and from Twickenham to Ealing are already blighted by planes hovering overhead - even before we get to a third h-rw runway

You cannot have an airport like Heathrow surrounded by millions of people - its highly dangerous, affects health and generally causes massive congestion in West london. Imagine if/when a plane comes down in a built up area killing hundreds - what then?

The Boris Island idea is the only sensible idea being touted. Closing Heathrow would allow a vast swathe of West London to be redevelped as a green-oasis containg new housing / scence parks etc. This would give a significant boost to Londons GDP. The value of this prime land would more than pay for the new airport in the esrtuary.

Factor in also that Boris Is could be a 4-runway 24/7 - the potential for flights to this hub would far exceed what can be done through H/row Gatwick - both could be closed. Southen als0 - wht would you need that (take a poll of those that live off the end of that runway)

Time to think big - Boris gets my vote ( and Im labour!)
This 'survey' by the echo is obvously biased against Boris Is. It seems to me that with "More than a third of respondents to the survey backed the idea of a new airport on the Isle of Grain, in Kent" - Even the Echo cannot hide that this idea has a lot of popularity. Try doing that poll in West London and you will get massive support for it. Millions of people from Blackheath to Hounslow and from Twickenham to Ealing are already blighted by planes hovering overhead - even before we get to a third h-rw runway You cannot have an airport like Heathrow surrounded by millions of people - its highly dangerous, affects health and generally causes massive congestion in West london. Imagine if/when a plane comes down in a built up area killing hundreds - what then? The Boris Island idea is the only sensible idea being touted. Closing Heathrow would allow a vast swathe of West London to be redevelped as a green-oasis containg new housing / scence parks etc. This would give a significant boost to Londons GDP. The value of this prime land would more than pay for the new airport in the esrtuary. Factor in also that Boris Is could be a 4-runway 24/7 - the potential for flights to this hub would far exceed what can be done through H/row Gatwick - both could be closed. Southen als0 - wht would you need that (take a poll of those that live off the end of that runway) Time to think big - Boris gets my vote ( and Im labour!) Graham5555
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