Seen it wrote:
"Travellers at the unauthorised Dale Farm site, Crays Hill unauthorised, will unveil the Essex County Council-funded log cabin...." Is this authorised, this log cabin thingy?

Sally wrote:
<b> "Actually it appears that the whole of Crays Hill is unauthorised! Classic Echo clanger"

What do you mean Piano hinges?</b>

They have a whole bl00dy school to themselves

They have a team of paid do-gooders

pikeys..... scum of the earth who cause nothing but mayhem and unrest where ever they feel free to go. dumping rubbish here there and every where, ripping people off left right and centre and offending my sense of smell because they stink!

£12k for a community centre?Maybe whoever got it done for that price should go for the sports village contract!

all the caravans are there illegally

all the people living there - travellers who apparently don't want to travel - are there illegally

Come on then Messrs Baron and Buckley, have you nothing to say?

Make sure you get out and vote today

I … am an Essex County Council taxpayer so it IS my business

rob atkins wrote:
don\'t get referendum, over euro do you expect to get even thought about a thing like this ....errr no chance

Bob wrote:
Make sure you get out and vote today. If you can\'t be bothered to get off your backsides to make the effort, you can\'t complain when things like this happen.

Gary wrote:

Bob wrote: Make sure you get out and vote today. If you can\'t be bothered to get off your backsides to make the effort, you can\'t complain when things like this happen.

Also remember when voting that the Essex County Council who have funded the £12K are Tory run as to is Basildon council. It's a local issue that could be handled better.

Kim Gandy wrote:
Nose Poker Inner contacts: Clive Mardner, Labour (what a surprise) councillor on Greenwich Council, Town Hall Wellington St Woolwich London SE18 6PW 020 8311 4921 clive.mardner@greenw ich.gov.uk This man is also a crony of the Rev Thomas Acton, self appointed gypsy and traveller expert of Greenwich University. Lord Avebury (LIBDEM peer, what a surprise) Do gooders' champion and the man behind the "services to the community awards" given to Kathleen McCarthy and Richard Sherisan Email: ericavebury@gmail.co m House of Lords London SW1A 0PW Web: http://www.ericavebu ry.blogspot.com Stalwart do gooder Father John Glynn Our Lady Of Good Counsel 61 London Road Wickford Essex SS12 0AW Tel: 01268 733219. ALL THESE DETAILS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED FROM THE INTERNET These are all cronies, all people who have NEVER sought the views of the wider community and ALL people who live outside the area. What does that tell you? ALL do gooders live outside the area and know NOTHING of the facts, nor are they interested in seeking them because the truth hurts. I am writing to all three. I wish to state that I do not advocate or support the use of violence, threats or intimidation. Unlike others.

These are all cronies, all people who have NEVER sought the views of the wider community and ALL people who live outside the area.

piano hinges wrote:

Kim Gandy wrote: Nose Poker Inner contacts: Clive Mardner, Labour (what a surprise) councillor on Greenwich Council, Town Hall Wellington St Woolwich London SE18 6PW 020 8311 4921 clive.mardner@greenw ich.gov.uk This man is also a crony of the Rev Thomas Acton, self appointed gypsy and traveller expert of Greenwich University. Lord Avebury (LIBDEM peer, what a surprise) Do gooders' champion and the man behind the "services to the community awards" given to Kathleen McCarthy and Richard Sherisan Email: ericavebury@gmail.co m House of Lords London SW1A 0PW Web: http://www.ericavebu ry.blogspot.com Stalwart do gooder Father John Glynn Our Lady Of Good Counsel 61 London Road Wickford Essex SS12 0AW Tel: 01268 733219. ALL THESE DETAILS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED FROM THE INTERNET These are all cronies, all people who have NEVER sought the views of the wider community and ALL people who live outside the area. What does that tell you? ALL do gooders live outside the area and know NOTHING of the facts, nor are they interested in seeking them because the truth hurts. I am writing to all three. I wish to state that I do not advocate or support the use of violence, threats or intimidation. Unlike others.

Interesting stuff there. I'm sure we would all like to see the text of the messages you send to these people expressing your concerns. I also did some research because of your (strange) statement that "ALL do gooders live outside the area and know NOTHING of the facts, nor are they interested in seeking them". Thomas Acton, far from being the "self appointed gypsy and traveller expert of Greenwich University" is in fact a Professor there. Not self-appointed, but appointed by the University. Just checking the facts. Lord Avebury wasn't "behind" the awards you mention, he merely presented them. He did not make the decision on who won the award. Just checking the facts.

These are all cronies, all people who have NEVER sought the views of the wider community and ALL people who live outside the area.

May I ask... 1. Cronies of whom? 2. How do you know with certainty who they have, and have not, spoken to? 3. Is London Road, Wickford "outside the area"? How is this arbitrary "area" drawn up and what qualifications must someone have in order to be deemed allowed to comment? 4. Who elected you as the arbiter of who can comment? You weren't "self-appointed" by any chance? Very pleased to see you do not support the use of violence, threats or intimidation. Who are these "others" to whom you refer? I'd just like the facts. After all, according to you, I don't have them. Many thanks.

Kim Gandy wrote:
I have just spoken to Essex who, utterly embarrassed, are trying to distance themselves from this. They tell me that the project was funded by the Youth Opportunities Fund, an agency of the Department for Children, Schools and Families. The YOF is, as you guessed, a quango. Apparently it is a group of UNINFORMED AND NAIVE young people, who have put this through and CLIVE MARDEN of the Essex Council for Racial Equality that has sponsored it. Essex CC has merely nodded it through. There is a school, complete with IT suite, already provided for their community. It is called Crays Hill Primary School. They are enjoying SOLE BENEFITS of it and we are paying for that too. The children of the village, however, enjoy no such luxuries as a local school or community centre. They are dispersed to schools around the neighbourhood. It is being passed off as something for the children when in fact it is to be used for the adults to have their meetings and also as some kind of "chapel". There again, these people enjoy almost exclusive rights to Our Lady of Good Counsel at Wickford. So what necessity is there for this project anyway? Other than for outsiders to goad the local taxpayers that is. Yes, it has all come from CENTRAL GOVERNMENT at the end of the day. Unbelievable. What next? A community swimming pool, sauna and spa, provided by the local taxpayers - but not for their use , of COURSE. I am NOT reading any response from Piano Hinges or any other bleeding hearts. I simply cannot be bothered to listen to naive and uninformed people who, it seems, are happy to stump up cash for projects such as this. That people can be so deliberately one sided is beyond my comprehension. I despise fence-sitters and those who agree with certain people whilst deliberately going against others whose views are virtually the same as those they support. Pathetic.

Kim Gandy wrote:
Furthermore, whilst the Bleeding Hearts have been, no doubt, picking holes in my comments (I haven't read them but that is what rent a leftie mob usually do) I have been making enquiries so I can be INFORMED. This is why I shall NOT be reading your responses, merely skimming past them. I cannot bear to read rhetoric and argument from people who are UNINFORMED and also UNSIGNED. No names = no credibility. So stop wasting time and space on this forum responding to me. To all others who live in the real world. I urge you to contact the perpetrators of this, as per my posting above. The more cages rattled the better. Even if it gets us nowhere, it'll upset the lefties and THAT is worth its weight in gold.

Kim Gandy wrote:
Furthermore, whilst the Bleeding Hearts have been, no doubt, picking holes in my comments (I haven't read them but that is what rent a leftie mob usually do) I have been making enquiries so I can be INFORMED. This is why I shall NOT be reading your responses, merely skimming past them. I cannot bear to read rhetoric and argument from people who are UNINFORMED and also UNSIGNED. No names = no credibility. So stop wasting time and space on this forum responding to me. To all others who live in the real world. I urge you to contact the perpetrators of this, as per my posting above. The more cages rattled the better. Even if it gets us nowhere, it'll upset the lefties and THAT is worth its weight in gold.

Kim Gandy wrote:
I have just spoken to Essex who, utterly embarrassed, are trying to distance themselves from this.

They tell me that the project was funded by the Youth Opportunities Fund, an agency of the Department for Children, Schools and Families.

The YOF is, as you guessed, a quango.

Apparently it is a group of UNINFORMED AND NAIVE young people, who have put this through and CLIVE MARDEN of the Essex Council for Racial Equality that has sponsored it.

Essex CC has merely nodded it through.

There is a school, complete with IT suite, already provided for their community. It is called Crays Hill Primary School. They are enjoying SOLE BENEFITS of it and we are paying for that too.

The children of the village, however, enjoy no such luxuries as a local school or community centre.

They are dispersed to schools around the neighbourhood.

It is being passed off as something for the children when in fact it is to be used for the adults to have their meetings and also as some kind of "chapel". There again, these people enjoy almost exclusive rights to Our Lady of Good Counsel at Wickford.

So what necessity is there for this project anyway?

Other than for outsiders to goad the local taxpayers that is.

Yes, it has all come from CENTRAL GOVERNMENT at the end of the day.

Unbelievable. What next? A community swimming pool, sauna and spa, provided by the local taxpayers - but not for their use , of COURSE.

I am NOT reading any response from Piano Hinges or any other bleeding hearts. I simply cannot be bothered to listen to naive and uninformed people who, it seems, are happy to stump up cash for projects such as this. That people can be so deliberately one sided is beyond my comprehension. I despise fence-sitters and those who agree with certain people whilst deliberately going against others whose views are virtually the same as those they support.

Pathetic.

Kim Gandy wrote:
Furthermore, whilst the Bleeding Hearts have been, no doubt, picking holes in my comments (I haven't read them but that is what rent a leftie mob usually do) I have been making enquiries so I can be INFORMED. This is why I shall NOT be reading your responses, merely skimming past them. I cannot bear to read rhetoric and argument from people who are UNINFORMED and also UNSIGNED. No names = no credibility. So stop wasting time and space on this forum responding to me. To all others who live in the real world. I urge you to contact the perpetrators of this, as per my posting above. The more cages rattled the better. Even if it gets us nowhere, it'll upset the lefties and THAT is worth its weight in gold.

Robbie wrote:
It is also worth noting that not only have essex cc wated £12,000 on this project they also held a jolly for the council at Stock Brook Manor this week where one of the closing comments of a speech the person mentioned the work the council were doing for the UNGRATEFUL ESSEX PEOPLE.
nice , we pay their wages and they say this about us

Apparently it is a group of UNINFORMED AND NAIVE young people, who have put this through and CLIVE MARDEN of the Essex Council for Racial Equality that has sponsored it.

I am NOT reading any response from Piano Hinges or any other bleeding hearts. I simply cannot be bothered to listen to naive and uninformed people who, it seems, are happy to stump up cash for projects such as this. That people can be so deliberately one sided is beyond my comprehension. I despise fence-sitters and those who agree with certain people whilst deliberately going against others whose views are virtually the same as those they support.

Pathetic.

I have been making enquiries so I can be INFORMED.

I cannot bear to read rhetoric and argument from people who are UNINFORMED