Dear Council. Zero Tolerance ? If you want to cut out anti-Social behaviour stop replacing the word "could" with "will"....ie "any that are caught out again WILL lose their licence". No more warnings !!!

Name and Shame the shops that are selling.

what would be the point of naming and shaming them,
the kids would all head down there in there shroves,
just their licences away,, no ifs no buts

what would be the point of naming and shaming them,
the kids would all head down there in there shroves,
just their licences away,, no ifs no buts

Also, they went to all that effort to prime a 15 yr old to work for them, and they ask her to only call on 7 ? How many licensed premises are there in CP & Roch ?

Better to publish the names of the shops that passed the test, then the kids would know not to go there!

It would make life a lot easier for me.

Seriously though, we were 1 of the 2 shops that passed.

It really is a problem as we get lots of young people attempting to buy alcohol and cigarettes and some of them get quite abusive when asked for ID.

Name n shame the shops.

Having been caught out by this kind of sting a couple of years back I must just say that the things are not as cut and dried as would first appear. The shop I worked in never ever knowingly sold alcohol to minors. We always knew the way they looked, the manner in which they tried to buy it and the type of drink they bought. We always asked for I.D. no I.D, no booze. The set up is this. Choose a youngster who looks older and has a pleasant, mature attitude. Send them in with an adult who stands next to them while they politely choose a bottle (1 only) of alchopop. (boys never try to buy this, in real life. only young men, for their girlfriends) they say very little so you cannot judge by voices.They are dressed in an adult way and look about 20. they pay, leave with the adult (which makes you think they are two adult friends) and then, while you are frantically busy, (which you have been all the way through) the adult comes back alone and in front of a shop load of regular customers who know your integrity, cart you off out the back to threaten you with allsorts. This is NOT how teenagers buy booze and is a cruel and unfair way of "testing" shops out.Send in an abusive little turd who shouts the odds when asked for I.D and see how few get served then!

shopworker wrote:
Having been caught out by this kind of sting a couple of years back I must just say that the things are not as cut and dried as would first appear. The shop I worked in never ever knowingly sold alcohol to minors. We always knew the way they looked, the manner in which they tried to buy it and the type of drink they bought. We always asked for I.D. no I.D, no booze. The set up is this. Choose a youngster who looks older and has a pleasant, mature attitude. Send them in with an adult who stands next to them while they politely choose a bottle (1 only) of alchopop. (boys never try to buy this, in real life. only young men, for their girlfriends) they say very little so you cannot judge by voices.They are dressed in an adult way and look about 20. they pay, leave with the adult (which makes you think they are two adult friends) and then, while you are frantically busy, (which you have been all the way through) the adult comes back alone and in front of a shop load of regular customers who know your integrity, cart you off out the back to threaten you with allsorts. This is NOT how teenagers buy booze and is a cruel and unfair way of "testing" shops out.Send in an abusive little turd who shouts the odds when asked for I.D and see how few get served then!

Cannot agree with this. If you follow the I.D. code you would check anyone who appeared to be under 21. I have asked for ID for people who it has turned out have been in their late 20's and early 30's.

At the end of the day, your licence is at risk, why risk it!

The words used above are:-
'Trading Standards takes a zero tolerance approach to underage drinking, and we will take appropriate action if shops continue to ignore our warnings'.
I would have thought a zero tolerance meant that in the event of being caught selling to minors, Trading Standards would ensure that the shop or shops immediately lose their licence. That is what zero tolerance means to me. Not giving continual warnings. If the shop gets caught, name it, shame it and take their licence away.

The set up is this. Choose a youngster who looks older and has a pleasant, mature attitude. Send them in with an adult who stands next to them while they politely choose a bottle (1 only) of alchopop. (boys never try to buy this, in real life. only young men, for their girlfriends) they say very little so you cannot judge by voices.They are dressed in an adult way and look about 20.

I would have thought that this verges on entrapment. I reckon a good solicitor would go to town on this.

ShagNasty wrote:
Name and Shame the shops that are selling.

Yes, where exactly are these shops that are selling alcohol to 15 year olds? Just wondering

boredteen wrote:

ShagNasty wrote: Name and Shame the shops that are selling.

Yes, where exactly are these shops that are selling alcohol to 15 year olds? Just wondering

ShagNasty's suggestion would probably encourage minors to shop for booze at these shops. much better to heavily fine the offenders, or close down persistant offenders.

P.S. I think I've seen one of ShagAwfully's films-it was disgustingly obscene, a bit like one of his postings on this site.