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Updated: Stambridge Mills blaze
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| The blaze takes hold. Pic by Essex County Fire and Rescue Service |
A BLAZE swept through the disused Stambridge Mills, on the bank of the River Roach near Rochford.
Nine fire appliances, including an aerial ladder, were sent to tackle the blaze, which broke out at 10pm last night(Sunday).
Assistant divisonal officer Martyn Hodder said: "The fire has rapidly escalated through the five-storey building and is 100 per cent well alight.
"Due to possible structural collapse of the building firefighters have been pulled back and are tackling the blaze from a safe position."
The river which runs alongside the mill was being used as an additional water source for the firefighting operation.
A witness said white and black smoke billowed high into the sky.
The blaze was put out by 1.34am. Firefighters were dampening down this morning.
The flour mills, once part of the Allied Mills group, have been closed since the late 1990s after being in use for more than 100 years.
There have been plans for developing the site as a marine development of flats with mooringss.
The mills were originally owned by the well-known local Rankin farming family.
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CommentPosted by: Smithy on 1:06am Mon 19 May 08
I was told they had to evacuate old people from a home nearby. Anyone know if this is true?
I was told they had to evacuate old people from a home nearby. Anyone know if this is true?
Posted by: Steve Russell, Rochford on 4:21am Mon 19 May 08
I was at work at Albon Engineering on Purdeys Ind Estate.My collegues and I had a fantastic view .Black smoke was billowing out of the mill at about 10 pm. It did not take long for the firefighters to arrive. At one point we though it was going to be a large blaze especially at the back next to the river Roach where access was restricted, but due to the endevour of our finest the blaze looked under control by about 1 am.The fire was kept under control and did not spread to other parts of the mill, especially the silos which could have been an explosion hazard. Some of the guys took pictures which may or not come out.
I was at work at Albon Engineering on Purdeys Ind Estate.My collegues and I had a fantastic view .Black smoke was billowing out of the mill at about 10 pm. It did not take long for the firefighters to arrive. At one point we though it was going to be a large blaze especially at the back next to the river Roach where access was restricted, but due to the endevour of our finest the blaze looked under control by about 1 am.The fire was kept under control and did not spread to other parts of the mill, especially the silos which could have been an explosion hazard. Some of the guys took pictures which may or not come out.
Posted by: Helen, Rochford on 5:31am Mon 19 May 08
[quote]the roads were blocked off, and i don't think they had to evacuate the old peoples home and only one ambulance arrived and that is standard procedure anyway i don't believe anyone was hurt but there were about 6 fire engines there and more were going past as I was going home so not sure how many in total went, just hope none of the teams were hurt [/quote]
the roads were blocked off, and i don't think they had to evacuate the old peoples home and only one ambulance arrived and that is standard procedure anyway i don't believe anyone was hurt but there were about 6 fire engines there and more were going past as I was going home so not sure how many in total went, just hope none of the teams were hurt
Posted by: SteveRussell, Rochford on 6:06am Mon 19 May 08
For the ornithologists, there were a pair of mating owls, which working night shift we were acustom to. I presume they came from the mill because they were flying around a while...maybe some chicks were there.
So roll on the LUXURY RIVERSIDE APARTMENTS then..... over to you Rochford Council......
For the ornithologists, there were a pair of mating owls, which working night shift we were acustom to. I presume they came from the mill because they were flying around a while...maybe some chicks were there.
So roll on the LUXURY RIVERSIDE APARTMENTS then..... over to you Rochford Council......
Posted by: Sadly Seen It on 8:18am Mon 19 May 08
Sadly I agree with Jeff - this mill would've been ideal as an educational, craft centre - similar to battlesbridge (but without the nice old buildings admittedly)- it would have been ideally located close to the old town centre, and provide small outlets for local people to sell produce, crafts, art, photographs etc etc and also a nice area for an "al fresco" type cafe where you could sit and take in the wildlife, educate kids about local history, a working museum even?
Alas, this was purchased a few years back and this is what it says on inner london property group's website:
"Recently acquired, Stambridge Mill in Rochford, Essex provides ILG with a unique regeneration opportunity in a semi-rural, riverside setting.
ILG will be working with the local community to ensure a development is undertaken that will be in fitting with its surroundings as well as taking into account the natural opportunities that are provided by the stunning location.
Stambridge Mills represents an opportunity to provide stunning accommodation that will reflect local heritage as well as safeguarding the natural environment."
If they keep to their word about heritage and wildlife then fair enough - but I do wonder if high-flyers that could afford such luxury would appreciate a view of factories and a car breakers yard....
Sadly I agree with Jeff - this mill would've been ideal as an educational, craft centre - similar to battlesbridge (but without the nice old buildings admittedly)- it would have been ideally located close to the old town centre, and provide small outlets for local people to sell produce, crafts, art, photographs etc etc and also a nice area for an "al fresco" type cafe where you could sit and take in the wildlife, educate kids about local history, a working museum even?
Alas, this was purchased a few years back and this is what it says on inner london property group's website:
"Recently acquired, Stambridge Mill in Rochford, Essex provides ILG with a unique regeneration opportunity in a semi-rural, riverside setting.
ILG will be working with the local community to ensure a development is undertaken that will be in fitting with its surroundings as well as taking into account the natural opportunities that are provided by the stunning location.
Stambridge Mills represents an opportunity to provide stunning accommodation that will reflect local heritage as well as safeguarding the natural environment."
If they keep to their word about heritage and wildlife then fair enough - but I do wonder if high-flyers that could afford such luxury would appreciate a view of factories and a car breakers yard....
Posted by: Margaret Stoll, Rochford on 9:42am Mon 19 May 08
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford.
It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford.
It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.
Posted by: Seen it on 10:17am Mon 19 May 08
Hi Margaret
Do you think that an arts/crafts/educatio
nal/musem centre would be a viable idea?
I have seen some pics of the Old Mill with the barges etc and it certainly has a lot of history, well the original mill did and looked a lot less "industrial" than the one that exists (or should I say existed!).
You seem to have lived in this area for a while and are interested in local politics etc, did I read/hear right that there were plans for Rochford to be made an Arts/Crafts venue and receive monies from the lottery or thames gateway projects?
It would certainly bring in "tourism" to Rochford and give locals somewhere to go.
I do appreciate that it would be difficult to get investors in something like this but with lottery/government funding it could possibly be viable and important for the local community - what do you think?
I do value your opinion. Thank you
Hi Margaret
Do you think that an arts/crafts/educatio
nal/musem centre would be a viable idea?
I have seen some pics of the Old Mill with the barges etc and it certainly has a lot of history, well the original mill did and looked a lot less "industrial" than the one that exists (or should I say existed!).
You seem to have lived in this area for a while and are interested in local politics etc, did I read/hear right that there were plans for Rochford to be made an Arts/Crafts venue and receive monies from the lottery or thames gateway projects?
It would certainly bring in "tourism" to Rochford and give locals somewhere to go.
I do appreciate that it would be difficult to get investors in something like this but with lottery/government funding it could possibly be viable and important for the local community - what do you think?
I do value your opinion. Thank you
Posted by: sophie on 11:09am Mon 19 May 08
Me and my mate were driving about and she spotted it ([italic][bold]i thought someone was having a midnight bbq but i was wrong[/bold][/italic] )... it was massive but we wernt sure where it was coming from so i drove towards it and managed to get front row seats.. We rang the fire brigade and they were on there way. As we watched the fire more and more people turnt up to see so we all just sat in our cars and watched :o).... this morning i got up and my car is black with ash ... madness...
Me and my mate were driving about and she spotted it (
i thought someone was having a midnight bbq but i was wrong )... it was massive but we wernt sure where it was coming from so i drove towards it and managed to get front row seats.. We rang the fire brigade and they were on there way. As we watched the fire more and more people turnt up to see so we all just sat in our cars and watched :o).... this morning i got up and my car is black with ash ... madness...
Posted by: Paul C, Rochford on 12:16pm Mon 19 May 08
I used to work at the mill from 1992, till its closure, it is a big loss, my recolection was that this mill is mentioned in the doomsday book, after spending many years there, i was sad to see it close, and even more saddened to hear this terrible news, I think it should be converted into a marina, it is a lovely area and the people arond are very friendly.
Paul Essex
I used to work at the mill from 1992, till its closure, it is a big loss, my recolection was that this mill is mentioned in the doomsday book, after spending many years there, i was sad to see it close, and even more saddened to hear this terrible news, I think it should be converted into a marina, it is a lovely area and the people arond are very friendly.
Paul Essex
Posted by: james, southend-on-sea on 12:16pm Mon 19 May 08
hey,
about 8pm last night me and some friends were making our way back from rochford to southend and we used the bridleway following the perimeter of the mill to cut through purdeys industrial estate as we passed we did notice a light cloud of smoke coming from the building but we thought nothing of it and continued across the bridge into the industrial estate
hey,
about 8pm last night me and some friends were making our way back from rochford to southend and we used the bridleway following the perimeter of the mill to cut through purdeys industrial estate as we passed we did notice a light cloud of smoke coming from the building but we thought nothing of it and continued across the bridge into the industrial estate
Posted by: emma, romford on 1:07pm Mon 19 May 08
hey,
we was back in brentwood and followed a fire engine and a control unit to the fire!it was massive..well i went round other side with some friends.we was getting ashed on too.it was mad.also got a video...
hope all firefighters are ok!well done!
xx
hey,
we was back in brentwood and followed a fire engine and a control unit to the fire!it was massive..well i went round other side with some friends.we was getting ashed on too.it was mad.also got a video...
hope all firefighters are ok!well done!
xx
Posted by: Seen it on 4:52pm Mon 19 May 08
If this building really is disused and empty (and has been for some years) then arson is a forgone conclusion isn't it?
If this building really is disused and empty (and has been for some years) then arson is a forgone conclusion isn't it?
Posted by: John on 6:18pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Margaret Stoll[/bold] wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt\\\'s comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It\\\'s impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.[/quote] you can walk to the river along the footpath which runs to the beach, this is still there and enjoyed in the summer by many
Margaret Stoll wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.
you can walk to the river along the footpath which runs to the beach, this is still there and enjoyed in the summer by many
Posted by: chunkeymonkey, Southend on 7:15pm Mon 19 May 08
Furthr to 'James' of Southend comments
[hey,about 8pm last night me and some friends were making our way back from rochford to southend and we used the bridleway following the perimeter of the mill to cut through purdeys industrial estate as we passed we did notice a light cloud of smoke coming from the building but we thought nothing of it and continued across the bridge into the industrial estate]
what a shame they didn't phone the Fire Brigade then at 8pm, perhaps it would have been investigated and put out before becomming the inferno it turned into. Let's hope if his house catched fire no one has the same attitude and just walks by.
Furthr to 'James' of Southend comments
what a shame they didn't phone the Fire Brigade then at 8pm, perhaps it would have been investigated and put out before becomming the inferno it turned into. Let's hope if his house catched fire no one has the same attitude and just walks by.
Posted by: 152, Rochford on 8:10pm Mon 19 May 08
I just went for a walk down to the mill to take a look and to be honest, from the front you could barely notice there was a fire. The fire only seemed to have affected the building that backs on to the Roach directly, which I believe is 'Old Mill', so that backs up the consipiracy theorists.
A couple of years ago, the place used to have a permanment security guard, but over the past couple of months there doesn't seem to have been one present on the site when I have walked past it. There are also a couple of gaping holes in the fence, neither of which back on to the affected site.
If it was indeed arson, and we assume the non-conspiracy theory is that teen vandals set fire to it, why did they choose that particular building, when there are others that could be accessed so much more easily?
I just went for a walk down to the mill to take a look and to be honest, from the front you could barely notice there was a fire. The fire only seemed to have affected the building that backs on to the Roach directly, which I believe is 'Old Mill', so that backs up the consipiracy theorists.
A couple of years ago, the place used to have a permanment security guard, but over the past couple of months there doesn't seem to have been one present on the site when I have walked past it. There are also a couple of gaping holes in the fence, neither of which back on to the affected site.
If it was indeed arson, and we assume the non-conspiracy theory is that teen vandals set fire to it, why did they choose that particular building, when there are others that could be accessed so much more easily?
Posted by: vek, rochford on 8:16pm Mon 19 May 08
we get a lot of blue flashers going doen the stambridge road ,on this occassion there seemed to be alot and with the police air support grabbed the trusted vid cam and filmed although when the mill closed jobs were lost i was not sad to see the back of the mill as the lorries 38 tonne ers in convey were ripping the heart out of rochford my house was falling a part as were all the other homes hiove pictures of the lorries all over the pavment as they could not pass one another, i am still disapointed to see this building edn up like this but in this age if you dont want it tourch it, if its in the way tourch it , if its listed and going to course a problem torch it, many people in rochfrod will rember that half the square was bulldozed one night as it was inb the way, i hope the if the old mill does hve to be demolished we dont end up with another isore like the spa
we get a lot of blue flashers going doen the stambridge road ,on this occassion there seemed to be alot and with the police air support grabbed the trusted vid cam and filmed although when the mill closed jobs were lost i was not sad to see the back of the mill as the lorries 38 tonne ers in convey were ripping the heart out of rochford my house was falling a part as were all the other homes hiove pictures of the lorries all over the pavment as they could not pass one another, i am still disapointed to see this building edn up like this but in this age if you dont want it tourch it, if its in the way tourch it , if its listed and going to course a problem torch it, many people in rochfrod will rember that half the square was bulldozed one night as it was inb the way, i hope the if the old mill does hve to be demolished we dont end up with another isore like the spa
Posted by: 152, Rochford on 8:24pm Mon 19 May 08
tinyurl.com/6jufzg for some photos of the mill today.
tinyurl.com/6jufzg for some photos of the mill today.
Posted by: alex, rochford essex on 9:02pm Mon 19 May 08
i saw the blaze at about mid night as i was driving home from southend along sutton road,the flames were visable from about halfway down sutton road i went for a closer look down purdees industrial estate, you could hear small explosions from the fire and firemen shouting, i went round to stambridge mill road and the fire engines were running backwards to the nearest water mains tap to fill the engines
i saw the blaze at about mid night as i was driving home from southend along sutton road,the flames were visable from about halfway down sutton road i went for a closer look down purdees industrial estate, you could hear small explosions from the fire and firemen shouting, i went round to stambridge mill road and the fire engines were running backwards to the nearest water mains tap to fill the engines
Posted by: liz jones, london on 9:17pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Margaret Stoll[/bold] wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.[/quote] I was born in southend we used to live in eastern ave which was as my dad put it only up the road from stanbridge mill.Every sunday he and mum would take us kids for a walk to the mill.When we got there several hours later we would walk on past the mill to what i can remember was a cricket ground. we would walk through till we came to a sty and a white gate.Beyond that was the beach it was called Broom Hills. or as dad called it broken bottle hills,think there is a care home there now named broom hills.I was knee high to a nat when we had our sunday walks to the mill and i can still remember the lovely smell of corn grinding as we went past it.wonderful.
Margaret Stoll wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.
I was born in southend we used to live in eastern ave which was as my dad put it only up the road from stanbridge mill.Every sunday he and mum would take us kids for a walk to the mill.When we got there several hours later we would walk on past the mill to what i can remember was a cricket ground. we would walk through till we came to a sty and a white gate.Beyond that was the beach it was called Broom Hills. or as dad called it broken bottle hills,think there is a care home there now named broom hills.I was knee high to a nat when we had our sunday walks to the mill and i can still remember the lovely smell of corn grinding as we went past it.wonderful.
Posted by: sabrina, southend on sea on 10:49pm Mon 19 May 08
[bold]My Sister works at "The old folks home" Broomhills and im glad to say that no-one had to be evecuated from the home...
My Sister works at "The old folks home" Broomhills and im glad to say that no-one had to be evecuated from the home...
Posted by: Seen it on 8:38am Tue 20 May 08
To 152Rochford - excellent picture! Have to agree with others that the damage doesn't look as bad as the picture of the fire in the Echo did - thanks to the emergency services of course - still a lot of damage but I really didn't expect to see anything standing when I went to look last night. I had phoned neighbours and said about the fire etc and I think they thought I was quite mad when they took a look from the bottom of Rocheway as there did not seem to be any damage at all!
Have to say that I also thought the same about kids being involved - located too far out really.
Eagerly await any reports/findings on the cause of the fire...
Incidentally does anyone know for sure whether the old building was listed/on a preservation order?
To 152Rochford - excellent picture! Have to agree with others that the damage doesn't look as bad as the picture of the fire in the Echo did - thanks to the emergency services of course - still a lot of damage but I really didn't expect to see anything standing when I went to look last night. I had phoned neighbours and said about the fire etc and I think they thought I was quite mad when they took a look from the bottom of Rocheway as there did not seem to be any damage at all!
Have to say that I also thought the same about kids being involved - located too far out really.
Eagerly await any reports/findings on the cause of the fire...
Incidentally does anyone know for sure whether the old building was listed/on a preservation order?
Posted by: Margaret Stoll, Rochford on 4:00pm Tue 20 May 08
[quote][bold]Seen it[/bold] wrote:
Hi Margaret
Do you think that an arts/crafts/educatio
nal/musem centre would be a viable idea?
I have seen some pics of the Old Mill with the barges etc and it certainly has a lot of history, well the original mill did and looked a lot less \"industrial\" than the one that exists (or should I say existed!).
You seem to have lived in this area for a while and are interested in local politics etc, did I read/hear right that there were plans for Rochford to be made an Arts/Crafts venue and receive monies from the lottery or thames gateway projects?
It would certainly bring in \"tourism\" to Rochford and give locals somewhere to go.
I do appreciate that it would be difficult to get investors in something like this but with lottery/government funding it could possibly be viable and important for the local community - what do you think?
I do value your opinion. Thank you [/quote] Hello
I've lived here since September 1990 so yes, I do feel at home here. I haven't heard anything at all about the project you mention. I don't actually approve of ANY project being dependent on lottery funding because I've seen how easily that can be taken away.
This whole area has a huge amount of history and I'm very interested in that. I don't know who decided that the river-bank should cease to be a beach where people could go for leisure - maybe Southend didn't like the competition, just a thought? There are footpaths along there but the more building there is down there the less people are going to feel like walking there.
Seen it wrote:
Hi Margaret
Do you think that an arts/crafts/educatio
nal/musem centre would be a viable idea?
I have seen some pics of the Old Mill with the barges etc and it certainly has a lot of history, well the original mill did and looked a lot less \"industrial\" than the one that exists (or should I say existed!).
You seem to have lived in this area for a while and are interested in local politics etc, did I read/hear right that there were plans for Rochford to be made an Arts/Crafts venue and receive monies from the lottery or thames gateway projects?
It would certainly bring in \"tourism\" to Rochford and give locals somewhere to go.
I do appreciate that it would be difficult to get investors in something like this but with lottery/government funding it could possibly be viable and important for the local community - what do you think?
I do value your opinion. Thank you
Hello
I've lived here since September 1990 so yes, I do feel at home here. I haven't heard anything at all about the project you mention. I don't actually approve of ANY project being dependent on lottery funding because I've seen how easily that can be taken away.
This whole area has a huge amount of history and I'm very interested in that. I don't know who decided that the river-bank should cease to be a beach where people could go for leisure - maybe Southend didn't like the competition, just a thought? There are footpaths along there but the more building there is down there the less people are going to feel like walking there.
Posted by: Margaret Stoll, Rochford on 4:03pm Tue 20 May 08
[quote][bold]james[/bold] wrote:
i saw the blaze it was hench u no wat i mean blud[/quote] I have no idea what this means. Is this a troll?
james wrote:
i saw the blaze it was hench u no wat i mean blud
I have no idea what this means. Is this a troll?
Posted by: Margaret Stoll, Rochford on 4:06pm Tue 20 May 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Margaret Stoll[/bold] wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt\\\'s comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It\\\'s impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.[/quote] you can walk to the river along the footpath which runs to the beach, this is still there and enjoyed in the summer by many[/quote] Please tell me how to get there (not a long walk, please!) Where can 'blue badge' users park, and walk to it?
John wrote:
Margaret Stoll wrote:
Further to SadlySeenIt's comment above, there are old photographs which show that there used to be a beach there 100 years ago before the area became so industrialised, and people used to have a pleasant Sunday afternoon out at the local beach. There are photographs on display in the Anne Boleyn pub at Rochford. It's impossible to get to the banks of the Roach nowadays, never mind going to the beach there.
you can walk to the river along the footpath which runs to the beach, this is still there and enjoyed in the summer by many
Please tell me how to get there (not a long walk, please!) Where can 'blue badge' users park, and walk to it?
Posted by: squiz23, mill lane, rochford on 7:58pm Tue 20 May 08
I live down mill lane and never saw a thing. Never heard a fire engine never saw a flame. I live 6 houses from the actual MILL. First thing I knew was when i got up i the morning to see a smouldering building. There hasn't been that much damage caused and unless you go around the back of the mill you would never know anything had happened
I live down mill lane and never saw a thing. Never heard a fire engine never saw a flame. I live 6 houses from the actual MILL. First thing I knew was when i got up i the morning to see a smouldering building. There hasn't been that much damage caused and unless you go around the back of the mill you would never know anything had happened
Posted by: I Am, On a computer on 10:35pm Sat 24 May 08
Do they know what started it yet?
Also when did the actual fire start and didnt the guard person notice?
and to squiz23 how did you not here it or see it... there was somthing like 75 firemen there so thats a hench loads of fire trucks blud you no what i mean? did u sleep through it if u did den 0mg u sleep heavy, anyway i home no1 got hurt and would like to hear a full story on this as i keep hearing rumors that aint true...
Do they know what started it yet?
Also when did the actual fire start and didnt the guard person notice?
and to squiz23 how did you not here it or see it... there was somthing like 75 firemen there so thats a hench loads of fire trucks blud you no what i mean? did u sleep through it if u did den 0mg u sleep heavy, anyway i home no1 got hurt and would like to hear a full story on this as i keep hearing rumors that aint true...
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