Southend Council rakes in £3million in parking fines in five years (From Echo)

£25m for basically doing nothing - so how is this re-invested back in to the Borough?

Southend Council are only interested in raising revenues by what means possible. The working people of the borough mean nothing to them, they were simply put on this earth to raise cash for the Council.

Whether through parking fines, Council Tax, etc the Council motto is "if you can pay you will pay". They ignore the people on benefits, no money there!

Nobody likes a ticket but without some kind of enforcement the town would be gridlocked. I think if they got rid of the spy car and used more wardens it would be more palatable,and they are working within the law unlike the clampers were/are?

All parking fines are entirely voluntary,
if you risk it and get a ticket,dont go crying to the Echo.

LisaWOS wrote:
£25m for basically doing nothing - so how is this re-invested back in to the Borough?

By paying heads of phoney departments and temporary/contract staff extortionate salaries

Don't park all wrong...don't overstay and no tickets will be given out, keep the money in your own pocket....its the best place for it and not someone else's.

another council tax payer wrote:
Nobody likes a ticket but without some kind of enforcement the town would be gridlocked. I think if they got rid of the spy car and used more wardens it would be more palatable,and they are working within the law unlike the clampers were/are?

Southend? Gridlocked? Once maybe, not now. Wild horses wouldnt drag me to that dump - shop in Bas or Chelmsford.

the only news is that this is not news

Is this story a celebration of Southenders' numptyness?

Freedom Of Information requests mean nothing. The Council still only tell you what they want you to know, the same as the government. This story on the Mail website is quite enlightening...

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2275882/They-squeal-
cuts-truth-town-hall
s-spending--fleecing
-you.html

Good method of raising cash for useful purposes, I whole heartedly agree with the fining system.

I recently witnessed a civil enforcement officer ignore five cars parked on double yellow lines and log vehicles parked in hour bays instead.
Common sense clearly dictates that vehicles parked on double yellow lines are not parked safely hence double yellow lines.
I have written to the council regarding this dereliction of duty as yet not received a response.
This council and the company they employ are not fit for purpose.
If they cant police the system they have they should reduce the system.

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:

another council tax payer wrote:
Nobody likes a ticket but without some kind of enforcement the town would be gridlocked. I think if they got rid of the spy car and used more wardens it would be more palatable,and they are working within the law unlike the clampers were/are?

Southend? Gridlocked? Once maybe, not now. Wild horses wouldnt drag me to that dump - shop in Bas or Chelmsford.

I think you are missing the point it will only take a couple of selfish individuals to park where they want because their businness is far more important than anyone elses to block road in rushhour and everybody comes to a standstill even in your lovely leigh

Its a better business than a casino.

They didn't get a penny off me.

I bought a ticket, displayed it on my car window and still got a ticket. My initial appeal was turned down. My ticket had fallen off of my windscreen on a rainy day when my windows were full of condensation. I've produced the ticket and still have it but they still want my original £1.80 and £50 in fines. So, in essence, their product (ticket) is not fit-for-purpose and I have to pay them!! ??

Hagrace wrote:
I bought a ticket, displayed it on my car window and still got a ticket. My initial appeal was turned down. My ticket had fallen off of my windscreen on a rainy day when my windows were full of condensation. I've produced the ticket and still have it but they still want my original £1.80 and £50 in fines. So, in essence, their product (ticket) is not fit-for-purpose and I have to pay them!! ??

Never stick on the screen in winter times...just leave on top of the dash in full view, they will say its your responsibility to make sure its visible...just like road fund license....there's a failure to display fine.

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:

Hagrace wrote:
I bought a ticket, displayed it on my car window and still got a ticket. My initial appeal was turned down. My ticket had fallen off of my windscreen on a rainy day when my windows were full of condensation. I've produced the ticket and still have it but they still want my original £1.80 and £50 in fines. So, in essence, their product (ticket) is not fit-for-purpose and I have to pay them!! ??

Never stick on the screen in winter times...just leave on top of the dash in full view, they will say its your responsibility to make sure its visible...just like road fund license....there's a failure to display fine.

But their letter of refusal states it is up to the driver to comply with the terms of parking. If you look at the ticket it actually states it must be stuck to the windscreen?

ORACUS wrote:
I recently witnessed a civil enforcement officer ignore five cars parked on double yellow lines and log vehicles parked in hour bays instead.
Common sense clearly dictates that vehicles parked on double yellow lines are not parked safely hence double yellow lines.
I have written to the council regarding this dereliction of duty as yet not received a response.
This council and the company they employ are not fit for purpose.
If they cant police the system they have they should reduce the system.

Maybe they had disabled badges?

Incidentally if anyone gets a ticket for parking on private land - just ignore it. They are invoices only and not fines. You can also safely ignore any reminders etc.

Council issued fines are different of course.

GentleGiant wrote:

ORACUS wrote:
I recently witnessed a civil enforcement officer ignore five cars parked on double yellow lines and log vehicles parked in hour bays instead.
Common sense clearly dictates that vehicles parked on double yellow lines are not parked safely hence double yellow lines.
I have written to the council regarding this dereliction of duty as yet not received a response.
This council and the company they employ are not fit for purpose.
If they cant police the system they have they should reduce the system.

Maybe they had disabled badges?

Incidentally if anyone gets a ticket for parking on private land - just ignore it. They are invoices only and not fines. You can also safely ignore any reminders etc.

Council issued fines are different of course.

GentleGiant wrote: ... "
Incidentally if anyone gets a ticket for parking on private land - just ignore it. They are invoices only and not fines. You can also safely ignore any reminders etc..
.
Good to see you advocate some high moral principles. Hopefully if you ever become the owner of some land a whole bunch of motorists and caravans will set up home on it. After all they ain't going to pay you any money are they !!!

Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

They would have made more then £3 million if they got you lot off the pavements.

reptile wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

They would have made more then £3 million if they got you lot off the pavements.

What pedestrians, or all the parked cars?

Hagrace wrote:

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:

Hagrace wrote:
I bought a ticket, displayed it on my car window and still got a ticket. My initial appeal was turned down. My ticket had fallen off of my windscreen on a rainy day when my windows were full of condensation. I've produced the ticket and still have it but they still want my original £1.80 and £50 in fines. So, in essence, their product (ticket) is not fit-for-purpose and I have to pay them!! ??

Never stick on the screen in winter times...just leave on top of the dash in full view, they will say its your responsibility to make sure its visible...just like road fund license....there's a failure to display fine.

But their letter of refusal states it is up to the driver to comply with the terms of parking. If you look at the ticket it actually states it must be stuck to the windscreen?

Advise the council that you will be happy to pay the £50, but you will be taking them to the small claims court if they will not reimburse you as they are ones who supplied the non stick tickets.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

You my friend are the ultimate wank5er!

You dont even have to pay the fines. I know people that have got them, refuse to pay and nothing comes of it. The council are as good as thieving scumbags. Theres many loopholes in a parking ticket, and not paying it certainly is one. I hate councils and most of all the government. We was made to provide money for other peoples benefits such as the council and government. F5uck them! I never abide by the law!! Works for me!

Boyracer_1991 wrote:
You dont even have to pay the fines. I know people that have got them, refuse to pay and nothing comes of it. The council are as good as thieving scumbags. Theres many loopholes in a parking ticket, and not paying it certainly is one. I hate councils and most of all the government. We was made to provide money for other peoples benefits such as the council and government. F5uck them! I never abide by the law!! Works for me!

next time you scrape your beloved lowered escort/pug/corsa down a pot hole fill it in yourself then and if you trip over your bad self dont bother with a&e treat yourself and god forbid your wheels get nicked apprehend the villian yourself

Boyracer_1991 wrote:
You dont even have to pay the fines. I know people that have got them, refuse to pay and nothing comes of it. The council are as good as thieving scumbags. Theres many loopholes in a parking ticket, and not paying it certainly is one. I hate councils and most of all the government. We was made to provide money for other peoples benefits such as the council and government. F5uck them! I never abide by the law!! Works for me!

Ahh, Boyracer my lovely, I was hoping you would comment popet. I miss terribly your eloquent prose when you are not here. “We ‘WAS’ made to provide money…..” lovely. Don’t forget though what Mummy said about going too slowly when you’re out in the Corsa tonight.

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

You my friend are the ultimate wank5er!

At least I can spell onanist.

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Boyracer_1991 wrote:
You dont even have to pay the fines. I know people that have got them, refuse to pay and nothing comes of it. The council are as good as thieving scumbags. Theres many loopholes in a parking ticket, and not paying it certainly is one. I hate councils and most of all the government. We was made to provide money for other peoples benefits such as the council and government. F5uck them! I never abide by the law!! Works for me!

Ahh, Boyracer my lovely, I was hoping you would comment popet. I miss terribly your eloquent prose when you are not here. “We ‘WAS’ made to provide money…..” lovely. Don’t forget though what Mummy said about going too slowly when you’re out in the Corsa tonight.

In fact I do not have a corsa. I have a 250bhp Audi S3. Wanna race?

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
".. At least I can spell onanist.."
.
Now now, you know that trying to work that one out could make his head explode with the strain !!!

Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou
ncils.gov.uk/news/cu
rrent/pressdetail.ht
m?pk=1549

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Boyracer_1991 wrote:
You dont even have to pay the fines. I know people that have got them, refuse to pay and nothing comes of it. The council are as good as thieving scumbags. Theres many loopholes in a parking ticket, and not paying it certainly is one. I hate councils and most of all the government. We was made to provide money for other peoples benefits such as the council and government. F5uck them! I never abide by the law!! Works for me!

Ahh, Boyracer my lovely, I was hoping you would comment popet. I miss terribly your eloquent prose when you are not here. “We ‘WAS’ made to provide money…..” lovely. Don’t forget though what Mummy said about going too slowly when you’re out in the Corsa tonight.

In fact I do not have a corsa. I have a 250bhp Audi S3. Wanna race?

Hey popet, nice you lovely 21 year olds stay in on a Sunday to talk to us older ladies. I did see you driving very fast in the Audi Corsa along Marine Parade last night. I was very impressed the way you made all those people jump out of the way and how you parked without paying. In fact, I think I leaked a little bit.
Come back soon, missing you popet

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou

ncils.gov.uk/news/cu

rrent/pressdetail.ht

m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou


ncils.gov.uk/news/cu


rrent/pressdetail.ht


m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car.

From the article I linked earlier:

"Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London.

It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres.

The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers.

A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do.

Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre.

The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists.

The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou



ncils.gov.uk/news/cu



rrent/pressdetail.ht



m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car.

From the article I linked earlier:

"Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London.

It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres.

The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers.

A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do.

Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre.

The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists.

The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou




ncils.gov.uk/news/cu




rrent/pressdetail.ht




m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car.

From the article I linked earlier:

"Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London.

It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres.

The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers.

A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do.

Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre.

The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists.

The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

1. A few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study.

2. You completely ignored the properly conducted study findings which were:

"The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists."

Was once 3 minutes late back to my car because I had to stop with my 8 month pregnant missus as she was in discomfort. Got back to the car with a ticket on it, which we appealed and gave the reasons for the delay .The council completely dismissed this and enforced the fine .Utter joke in my opinion.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote: Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough.... Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town. On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'. The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work. Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops. http://www.londoncou ncils.gov.uk/news/cu rrent/pressdetail.ht m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it. If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it. You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport.... However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car. From the article I linked earlier: "Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London. It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres. The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers. A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do. Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre. The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists. The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

1. A few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study. 2. You completely ignored the properly conducted study findings which were: "The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists."

But also clearly states that this report was applicable to London. We're in Essex and not a London suburb so this report has no bearing at all.

perini wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote: Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough.... Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town. On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'. The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work. Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops. http://www.londoncou ncils.gov.uk/news/cu rrent/pressdetail.ht m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it. If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it. You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport.... However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car. From the article I linked earlier: "Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London. It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres. The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers. A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do. Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre. The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists. The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

1. A few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study. 2. You completely ignored the properly conducted study findings which were: "The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists."

But also clearly states that this report was applicable to London. We're in Essex and not a London suburb so this report has no bearing at all.

It's about footfall in High Streets. Whether in London or other towns, the demographics are the same: people who walk, cycle, or take public transport into the High Street do so more often and spend more than those who drive.

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

firedog wrote:
All parking fines are entirely voluntary, if you risk it and get a ticket,dont go crying to the Echo.

I just think this also shows what a good job the council are doing. If the Police said they caught 95% of criminals we would all be saying what a fantastic job they are doing, but because the Council to such a great job catching everybody who parks illigally we are up in arms!

Well done the Council I say and well done the Traffic Wardens.

ECHO it's about time you got off the parking bandwagon unless you are reporting this as a good news story???

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou





ncils.gov.uk/news/cu





rrent/pressdetail.ht





m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car.

From the article I linked earlier:

"Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London.

It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres.

The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers.

A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do.

Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre.

The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists.

The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

1. A few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study.

2. You completely ignored the properly conducted study findings which were:

"The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists."

I don’t think I ignored the properly conducted study, it just doesn’t seem to have any bearing on whet we are discussing. If the study, which I believe was in London anyway, concluded that motorists ‘collectively’ spend less, that’s a real no brainer as there are clearly less of them. I’m glad my Council Tax didn’t pay for a study that had an obvious conclusion.
If there was adequate, reasonably priced parking available, I have no doubt the tide would turn.
Again you are right when you state a few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study, but we don’t need a ‘properly conducted study’ to conclude that if more motorists went and parked in town they would spend more. The comments from local people (not Londoners taking part in any study) do mostly state that people would return to Southend if adequate, reasonably priced parking were available

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:

Cockle wrote:
Why use a picture of a Lambeth Coucil FPN? SBC issue enough....

Personally, I very rarely take part in SBC's parking scheme by simply not going into town.
On the rare occasions I do I use the pay on exit car parks to ensure I don't overstay my 'welcome'.
The other prong of my defence is simply to not park on yellow or zig-zag lines or in resident bays, not stop in bus stops, and not enter yellow boxes or bus lanes during their hours of operation. Seems to work.

Of course, the High Street very rarely sees any of my custom and the local shops that I pass on my way in and out of own only if I can park legally but, hey, there are other places that are quite happy for me to spend my money in their shops while providing me with free parking while I'm there.

I don't think the shops will miss you. Motorists spend less in town centres than people who walk, cycle, or take the bus to the shops.

http://www.londoncou






ncils.gov.uk/news/cu






rrent/pressdetail.ht






m?pk=1549

Don't doubt it.

If motorists don't go to town centres then they won't be spending any money there... They're just taking their money somewhere else to spend it.

You can make statistics say most things, for instance, most times I go into Southend I will get dropped off by someone, as soon as I get out of the car I'm a pedestrian. On other occasions, if I'm going to a restaurant for the evening I'll get a cab, again, not a motorist as taxis regard themselves as public transport....

However, if I want to buy a big ticket item that is bulky or heavy, and tends to be more expensive than a newspaper or a loaf of bread then I don't use Southend High Street, I spend my money elsewhere, or get it online, therefore the bulk of my spending isn't done in Southend.

You might be a pedestrian once there - EVERYONE is - but you got there by car.

From the article I linked earlier:

"Their report, The Relevance of Parking in the Success of Urban Town Centres, looks at whether there is a link between free or cheap parking and the amount of commercial activity at town centres across London.

It also analyses how people travel to town centres and how often they visit their local high street and larger shopping centres.

The research concludes that more parking does not necessarily mean more trade. A well managed parking scheme where spaces turn over frequently can help to increase the number of visitors to a town centre. A good mix of shops and services and the way a town centre looks are some of the most important factors which attract shoppers.

A key finding was the number of people arriving at a town centre by car is frequently overestimated. Although car drivers spend more on a single trip to a town centre, walkers, cyclists and people using public transport visit more frequently and spend more money there over a week or a month than motorists do.

Chair of London Councils Transport and Environment Committee, Councillor Catherine West said: “London Councils commissioned research to find out whether there is a link between free parking and the commercial success of a town centre.

The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists.

The study suggests that the range of shops and services and how a high street looks are more important factors in attracting people into town centres than free parking. Every town centre is different and every local council and community will need to make its own decisions about parking charges."

Yes you’re right. Each council needs to make its own decisions. Southend has decided it’s not keen on the motorist with their extortionate parking rates. I, along with many local people continue to go out of town – in our cars – because public transport is generally a very poor service. Read the majority of comments and letters to local papers and you will see this.

1. A few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study.

2. You completely ignored the properly conducted study findings which were:

"The research shows that although retailers still perceive parking as being one of the main reasons for lack of footfall, people travelling on public transport or by foot visit town centres more often and spend more money than motorists."

I don’t think I ignored the properly conducted study, it just doesn’t seem to have any bearing on whet we are discussing. If the study, which I believe was in London anyway, concluded that motorists ‘collectively’ spend less, that’s a real no brainer as there are clearly less of them. I’m glad my Council Tax didn’t pay for a study that had an obvious conclusion.
If there was adequate, reasonably priced parking available, I have no doubt the tide would turn.
Again you are right when you state a few comments on a website is not a properly conducted study, but we don’t need a ‘properly conducted study’ to conclude that if more motorists went and parked in town they would spend more. The comments from local people (not Londoners taking part in any study) do mostly state that people would return to Southend if adequate, reasonably priced parking were available

So you think our town centres should be given over entirely to - in your own words - the minority who choose to drive instead of walk or use public transport?

I've just re-read my posts several times and don't see where I said that So if you are going to quote me, make sure it's correct. .

You can’t just make up your own version of what people say just for an argument.

I’ve cut and pasted it below so you can read it again

"The comments from local people (not Londoners taking part in any study) do mostly state that people would return to Southend if adequate, reasonably priced parking were available"

There we are, read again

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

Another intelligent comment popet, keep them coming

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

Another intelligent comment popet, keep them coming

Only because im correct. Welcome to the youth of today. I wonder what our country will be like in 20 years time!

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

stopmoaning1 wrote:

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

Another intelligent comment popet, keep them coming

Only because im correct. Welcome to the youth of today. I wonder what our country will be like in 20 years time!

Full of people who can not spell or use correct grammar.

Also, I guess with a minimum speed limit of 120mph on unrestricted roads and 500mph on motorways as the only laws left on the statute books

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

BOYRACER says ... But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.
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You talk utter tosh I do not believe you own a car. I have had one ticket in my life (35 MPH going down crown hill in rayleigh 30 limit) but anyone who has had a speeding fine and not paid it has the amount doubled and court and bailiff fees added then rigoursly pursued.
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BTW I think speeding fines are a great way for the motorist to contribute to the common good.

2shedsjackson wrote:

Boyracer_1991 wrote:

Maverick06 wrote:

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Great news. I love that illegal parkers are taking some of the burden off the borough's law-abiding taxpayers.

What a fantastic comment and only two lines to clear up the complete article.

People should read the Traffic Management Act 2004 before they start moaning about parking fines (appreciate it isn't every bodys bedtime reading and Boyracer_1991 wouldn't understand it anyway), but it quite clearly states that any excess from parking fines MUST be put back in to transport / parking / roads etc, so as stated the illegal parkers are taking the burden of the rest of us!

But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.

BOYRACER says ... But the point im making, you dont have to pay the fine. They dont pursue it. Its a scare tactic, and people just panic when they see the fine and pay it ASAP. Robbing basta5ds. They are as bad as a burgalar that steals from people.
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You talk utter tosh I do not believe you own a car. I have had one ticket in my life (35 MPH going down crown hill in rayleigh 30 limit) but anyone who has had a speeding fine and not paid it has the amount doubled and court and bailiff fees added then rigoursly pursued.
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BTW I think speeding fines are a great way for the motorist to contribute to the common good.

Im not talking about speeding fines you idiot. Speeding fines is a criminal matter, so you have to pay, but parking fines are a civil matter.

Again you talk tosh. What about the articles in this paper about parking fines where the fees had been racked up to £800-900? Remeber the "I only parked in a bus laybay for 2 minutes to drop off my elderly relative one".
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BTW how many parking fines do you have that you have not paid and you have not been pursued over?

2shedsjackson wrote:
Again you talk tosh. What about the articles in this paper about parking fines where the fees had been racked up to £800-900? Remeber the "I only parked in a bus laybay for 2 minutes to drop off my elderly relative one". . BTW how many parking fines do you have that you have not paid and you have not been pursued over?

The woman in question that you have quoted actually paid her fine, that's why you haven't seen it splashed all over the front of the ECHO that she got off.

Boyracer_1991 doesn't know what he is talking about and just says the first thing that comes in to his little brain.

another example of ripoff britain!! read my lips: string them all up. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I think the type of fine boy racer might be refering to is a parking ticket issued on private property , these do not have to be paid if you do not want to pay it.

another example of ripoff britain!!.. open your eyes people! liberals are getting away scott free... time to act: get out of the eu and get our country back!!... it's time to revolt people!!

Vote the Tories out and take aciton

r6keith wrote:
I think the type of fine boy racer might be refering to is a parking ticket issued on private property , these do not have to be paid if you do not want to pay it.

You beat me to it. The council can not issue fines for cars parked on private land. Take note folks, ....Its only an invoice.

Well done Boyracer, that must be your first serious point.

southendfanman wrote:
Vote the Tories out and take aciton

Why do people always want to make this type of story political? So do you think it is only the Tory controlled Councils in the UK that make money out of parking?

It's a profit from people who refuse to comply with traffic regulations. I would say they are doing a good job to catch all these people.

Last month everybody was slagging off the Community Wardens because in 2 years they have only ever issued one ticket?

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't!!

I have three parking tickets in my life.

I paid all of them.

I was "well hacked off" to use a borrowed-Boyracer type phrase at getting caught. But after 10 minutes of being annoyed I thought "Well it's my fault *I* parked illegally, so how can I be annoyed at the bloke issuing the ticket, or the council getting the money?"

Don't park illegally, don't get find. Pay for parking don't get a ticket.

Southend Council has (or proposes to in the forthcoming budget), for three out of the past four years frozen parking charges across Southend. This year we propose to LOWER them in some areas (such as Hamlet Court Rd/Thorpe Bay area) to help local businesses.

Yes the council uses parking charges to generate income. The council has three main forms of income:

1. Government grant (decreasing year on year)
2. Council Tax
3. Parking charges (as well as other fees and charges)

If we made parking free, we'd have to increase council tax. Is that what residents want? I doubt it.

The council is rather like central government - it doesn't have any money, it has to raise it by tax/charges/fees or obtain it from the government.

southendfanman - I am not aware of any political party in Southend that proposes to scrap car parking charges. I would be interested to see how residents would vote in the compulsory referendum they would be forced to hold to increase council tax c.7% to fund it. I am sure people who don't own a car, can't afford to run a car, choose not to own a car etc would be very grateful having to shell out extra cash so those that do can not pay a couple of quid to park their cars in central Southend.

CllrJamesCourtenay wrote:
I have three parking tickets in my life. I paid all of them. I was "well hacked off" to use a borrowed-Boyracer type phrase at getting caught. But after 10 minutes of being annoyed I thought "Well it's my fault *I* parked illegally, so how can I be annoyed at the bloke issuing the ticket, or the council getting the money?" Don't park illegally, don't get find. Pay for parking don't get a ticket. Southend Council has (or proposes to in the forthcoming budget), for three out of the past four years frozen parking charges across Southend. This year we propose to LOWER them in some areas (such as Hamlet Court Rd/Thorpe Bay area) to help local businesses. Yes the council uses parking charges to generate income. The council has three main forms of income: 1. Government grant (decreasing year on year) 2. Council Tax 3. Parking charges (as well as other fees and charges) If we made parking free, we'd have to increase council tax. Is that what residents want? I doubt it. The council is rather like central government - it doesn't have any money, it has to raise it by tax/charges/fees or obtain it from the government. southendfanman - I am not aware of any political party in Southend that proposes to scrap car parking charges. I would be interested to see how residents would vote in the compulsory referendum they would be forced to hold to increase council tax c.7% to fund it. I am sure people who don't own a car, can't afford to run a car, choose not to own a car etc would be very grateful having to shell out extra cash so those that do can not pay a couple of quid to park their cars in central Southend.

How did the council manage to balance their books before pay and display car parks? It is quite obvious that all the legal free parking has been deliberately removed.

Lets not have any more moaning and groaning about the dying town centre eh?