MORE than 60 sleep rough in aid of the homeless

4:00pm Wednesday 6th March 2013 in News By David Trayner

Nikki Jew and Natasha Evans were among the volunteers taking part Nikki Jew and Natasha Evans were among the volunteers taking part

VULNERABLE youths at risk of homeless have thanked volunteers who raised more than £8,000 sleeping rough for a night.

More than 60 people slept in the car park of Southend YMCA in freezing temperatures with only sleeping bags and cardboard boxes to protect them to raise money for the charity on Saturday.

Katie Edwards, 18, who is one of the 30 young people housed at the centre in Ambleside Drive, Southend, said: “It’s amazing that so many people have come to support the homeless.”

Matthew Perry, 19, also at the centre, said: “It’s nice to see they are coming out of their comfort zone to raise money for those who live here.

“It’s nice to see that people do care – not just hear about it.”

Individuals and groups, including staff from Southend accountants Goldwyns, Olympus KeyMed, South Essex Homes and Southend Council and members of Leigh Town Council, faced frosty sleeping bags as temperatures dropped to -1C.

Echo reporters David Trayner and Jack Monroe took part in the event.

To sponsor the volunteers email tommoulton@southendymca.org.uk or visit www.southendymca.org.uk.

Comments (13)

4:46pm Wed 6 Mar 13

supermadmax says...

Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity.

However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause.
Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity. However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause. supermadmax

9:21pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

supermadmax wrote:
Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity.

However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause.
The Echo didn't 'force' anyone to take part. I know for a fact Jack Monroe was signed up to take part in this last year, months before becoming an Echo reporter.
[quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity. However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause.[/p][/quote]The Echo didn't 'force' anyone to take part. I know for a fact Jack Monroe was signed up to take part in this last year, months before becoming an Echo reporter. Shoebury_Cyclist

10:07pm Wed 6 Mar 13

jolllyboy says...

Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live. jolllyboy

10:36pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Almeda11 says...

jolllyboy wrote:
Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done.

lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there.
Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
[quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not. Almeda11

9:51am Thu 7 Mar 13

Shoebury_Cyclist says...

Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote:
Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done.

lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there.
Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'.

As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly. Shoebury_Cyclist

10:10am Thu 7 Mar 13

whateverhappened says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
And three years ago britain had no homless, no poor or rich,the elderly were all living in nice warm homes the diabled all had round the clock care and benefits were only paid to those in need . All because we had 13 years of labour. what an idiot..
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]And three years ago britain had no homless, no poor or rich,the elderly were all living in nice warm homes the diabled all had round the clock care and benefits were only paid to those in need . All because we had 13 years of labour. what an idiot.. whateverhappened

2:17pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Almeda11 says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist.

Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience.
Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings.
And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first. Almeda11

3:40pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Red Under Your Bed says...

Almeda11 wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist.

Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience.
Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings.
And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.
Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.[/p][/quote]Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse. Red Under Your Bed

4:13pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Jack Monroe says...

Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
supermadmax wrote: Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity. However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause.
The Echo didn't 'force' anyone to take part. I know for a fact Jack Monroe was signed up to take part in this last year, months before becoming an Echo reporter.
Cheers SC.
I rarely comment on Echo stories on here but thought I would clarify that the Echo didn't 'force' anyone to do anything. I signed up for Sleep Easy before Christmas, and started with the newspaper the week before the event, definitely not enough time for them to strongarm me into sleeping out in the cold if I hadn't already volunteered. Oh, and if anyone fancies donating - its http://www.justgivin
g.com/jackmonroeslee
peasy

Jack.
[quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]supermadmax[/bold] wrote: Well done to those involved. I think its a very good cause. I hope some of the cash is spent educating people about solutions out there that deal with homelessness, as there is actually a lot of help that people arent aware of. Shelter are a great charity. However if the Echo really wanted to help, rather than forcing two junior reports to spent the night in the cold for cheap PR, it would be good if you donated a days profit to the cause.[/p][/quote]The Echo didn't 'force' anyone to take part. I know for a fact Jack Monroe was signed up to take part in this last year, months before becoming an Echo reporter.[/p][/quote]Cheers SC. I rarely comment on Echo stories on here but thought I would clarify that the Echo didn't 'force' anyone to do anything. I signed up for Sleep Easy before Christmas, and started with the newspaper the week before the event, definitely not enough time for them to strongarm me into sleeping out in the cold if I hadn't already volunteered. Oh, and if anyone fancies donating - its http://www.justgivin g.com/jackmonroeslee peasy Jack. Jack Monroe

4:46pm Thu 7 Mar 13

stopmoaning1 says...

Red Under Your Bed wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist.

Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience.
Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings.
And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.
Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.
Well said Almeda11, I couldn’t agree more.

The thing with most posters on this site is that if they don’t agree with your own personal views or comments you become subject to abuse and name calling. Then the comments start to go way off topic and a platform to spout their own politics.
[quote][p][bold]Red Under Your Bed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.[/p][/quote]Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.[/p][/quote]Well said Almeda11, I couldn’t agree more. The thing with most posters on this site is that if they don’t agree with your own personal views or comments you become subject to abuse and name calling. Then the comments start to go way off topic and a platform to spout their own politics. stopmoaning1

9:29pm Thu 7 Mar 13

Carnabackable says...

Just try sleeping rough for a couple of weeks, see how you would view the world then...
Just try sleeping rough for a couple of weeks, see how you would view the world then... Carnabackable

9:18pm Fri 8 Mar 13

Almeda11 says...

Red Under Your Bed wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.
Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.
Well, that`s news for me! And DON`T LABEL ME!! I am nothing that can be labelled ok! A person like you, who does not know me at all, yet has the cheek to act as though they do frankly, l couldn`t care less about you or your views. MY views belong to ME, AND ME ALONE. l hate politics, politicians and arrogant and ignorant people who make stupid comments!
[quote][p][bold]Red Under Your Bed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.[/p][/quote]Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.[/p][/quote]Well, that`s news for me! And DON`T LABEL ME!! I am nothing that can be labelled ok! A person like you, who does not know me at all, yet has the cheek to act as though they do frankly, l couldn`t care less about you or your views. MY views belong to ME, AND ME ALONE. l hate politics, politicians and arrogant and ignorant people who make stupid comments! Almeda11

9:26pm Fri 8 Mar 13

Almeda11 says...

stopmoaning1 wrote:
Red Under Your Bed wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Shoebury_Cyclist wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
jolllyboy wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.
IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.
People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.
Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.
Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.
Well said Almeda11, I couldn’t agree more. The thing with most posters on this site is that if they don’t agree with your own personal views or comments you become subject to abuse and name calling. Then the comments start to go way off topic and a platform to spout their own politics.
Thanks, stopmoanig1, and l completely agree with your comments. These people are immature keyboard cowards and bullies, who wouldn`t gave the guts to say these things to your facem which is why l detest them.

What they don`t seem to understand that a persom can be an INDIVIDUAL, which is very much what l am,and proud of it too, among the many sheep here in the uk!
[quote][p][bold]stopmoaning1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red Under Your Bed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoebury_Cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jolllyboy[/bold] wrote: Good on 'em to bring to the fore the shame of councils not housing the homeless. It is a spiral downwards if you have no-where to live.[/p][/quote]IF Southend council really are housing immigrants who have never worked here, and pay them benefits shortly after they arrive, but not pay benefits or house british people, then there should be a public outcry, and to be honest l don`t know why there isn`t, talk about apathy, on this scale it`s a disease, people up and down this country should be demonstrating non stop until something is done. lt`s an outrage, in other, less stupid countries than the uk, you have to have either been living there for 8 years, supporting yourself, or have worked there. Here, they let their own people sit on the streets begging, while giving immigrants everything. lt`s a disgrace, charity begins at home in my book, the germans and other eu countries have got the right idea, the uk definitely has not.[/p][/quote]People don't care because they've had three years of Tory divide and rule. They've had three years of Tory propaganda painting everyone who receives any kind of benefit as 'scroungers' and 'shirkers'. As a result people don't care about the homeless, the poor, the sick, the disabled and the elderly.[/p][/quote]Well 2 points Shoebury cyclist. Firstly party politics or whichever party is in at the time has NOTHING to do with the way l feel. l either feel for someone or don`t feel for them, which is down to my personality and conscience. Those feelings are mine, and mine alone and not influenced by polititians, l take responsibility for my own feelings. And secondly, you say " people don`t care" but my point was that it is the COUNCIL`s responsibility, not individuals, to make sure that british people are not sleeping rough, and they should put our people first.[/p][/quote]Politics nothin to do with how you feel? Yeah right thats why you spout ukip chapter and verse.[/p][/quote]Well said Almeda11, I couldn’t agree more. The thing with most posters on this site is that if they don’t agree with your own personal views or comments you become subject to abuse and name calling. Then the comments start to go way off topic and a platform to spout their own politics.[/p][/quote]Thanks, stopmoanig1, and l completely agree with your comments. These people are immature keyboard cowards and bullies, who wouldn`t gave the guts to say these things to your facem which is why l detest them. What they don`t seem to understand that a persom can be an INDIVIDUAL, which is very much what l am,and proud of it too, among the many sheep here in the uk! Almeda11

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