Mum beaten up by teenage girl gatecrashers (From Echo)

Some Party..

"Anyone with information about
the incident, which happened
last Friday night, should call
police on 101" um 1 of them messaged her on facebook, what more information could you need?

"her brother, James Adger, 36, but when he tried to chase the girls up the street he was detained by the police"

And here's the problem!!! Rather than detaining this man who was trying to protect his sister/family, the police should have chased after the girls with him and arrested them!

The "yoof" of today rule the roost unfortunately, they know they can pretty much do what they like when they like and the police are a) unlikely to catch them for it or b) do very little to them if they do get caught.

Conversely they know if anyone tried to stop them acting anti-sociably they can have the police involved to arrest thos trying to do the right thing in an instant!

"She said police had been called along with her brother, James Adger, 36, but when he tried to chase the girls up the street he was detained by the police. He was brought back to her house before ebing released"

Another **** up by the Police, the officers involved are almost guilty of assisting an offender. (& another **** up by the wizz kids from then 'paper of the year', Maybe they should download Google chrome, it puts a red line underneath all the spelling mistakes)

I didn't say the F word by the way!!!

I wouldn't have messed with her.

faecesbook strikes again.

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
faecesbook strikes again.

anyone mentioning that they're having a party on facebook needs their head examining

gutter trash....... this is what you get kids are allowed to do what ever as they know nothing can be done to them ...........its about time the parents were put up in court and fined or locked up then put the kids in care till there out or even longer if need be.......part the problem is parents who just give there kids vast money and told to go out just so they can have some peace or got out themselves ............ parents are responsible so they should know were and what there brats are doing if not they should be held accountable for them ...........

is she related to John Conteh....could have got some boxing tips and then able to give some uppercuts and Haymakers to all 6.

She's the same age as me and she may "still live in the 80s when adults had authority" but I was a teen in the 80's and I distinctly remember adults at the time bemoaning that kids didn't listen to them then like they used to in the 60's. I remember many instances of kids battering adults (and vice versa)

Technology advances, culture declines, but human behaviour is always base at heart.

Not A Native wrote:
She's the same age as me and she may "still live in the 80s when adults had authority" but I was a teen in the 80's and I distinctly remember adults at the time bemoaning that kids didn't listen to them then like they used to in the 60's. I remember many instances of kids battering adults (and vice versa) Technology advances, culture declines, but human behaviour is always base at heart.

Absolute rubbish!

Kids will always try to go against authority but the vast majority of kids in the 80s/early 90s and prior to that respected their elders.

I'm 36 and when I was a kid if an adult told me off I paid attention, the same went for the majority of my friends. Yes there were some that didn't but they were the minority.

Unfortunately we now seem to have a generation of yoofs that go by the "you can't tell us what to do..... we know our rights" mentality and the majority of them we blatantly do what they like, when they like.

My niece is 14 and by no means a bad kid. I'll often get a phone call or text "Mum made me cry.... she's hurt my feelings", it'll usually transpire that she's been out of line and told off but they seem to be taught at school that no one has the right to hurt their feelings. Unfortunately no one seems to be explaining that it's wrong to upset others too!

All this namby-pambi "mustn't smack kids" etc has led to a generation of uncontrollable yoofs who fear no one and nothing.

Russ its called respect something kids do not have but there again some parents too......

This article emphasises all that is wrong with "modern" Britain.
Ho Hum.

bumper wrote:
Russ its called respect something kids do not have but there again some parents too......

Absolutely spot on!!!

When I was a teenager (only 20 ish years ago) I was kept in line by two things:

1) Not wanting to upset my parents because I respected them and wanted them to be proud of me

2) Not getting caught by someone who knew my parents who without a doubt would have told them about any wrong doings (then loop back to point 1)

Respect can only be earnt.... well that's what I was taught anyway, it would seem younger people expect it without earning it and give none in return.

I know this doesn't apply to EVERY kid, there just seems to be an awful lot more that it applies to than there used to be.

The scary thing is this seems to have got worse in the last 10-15 years.

What is going on with the younger youths of this generation!
I really do fear for my children's future.
Perhaps this government should bring back the days of national service.
In America, they have Boot Camp.
Can you imagine what effects a hard core drill instructor could bring on these disrespectful youth we have before us.
I love my children more than life itself, but I will be unable to keep them indoors forever, which frightens me so much of the thought of what future is to come, and even though I treasure my children tremendously, if I ever found out that they acted in this disgusting manner, I would not think twice about a drill instructor showing them the meanings of right & wrong.
I hope this poor mother gets over this ordeal quickly, and safely.

What is going on with the younger youths of this generation!
I really do fear for my children's future.
Perhaps this government should bring back the days of national service.
In America, they have Boot Camp.
Can you imagine what effects a hard core drill instructor could bring on these disrespectful youth we have before us.
I love my children more than life itself, but I will be unable to keep them indoors forever, which frightens me so much of the thought of what future is to come, and even though I treasure my children tremendously, if I ever found out that they acted in this disgusting manner, I would not think twice about a drill instructor showing them the meanings of right & wrong.
I hope this poor mother gets over this ordeal quickly, and safely.

Russ13 wrote:

Not A Native wrote:
She's the same age as me and she may "still live in the 80s when adults had authority" but I was a teen in the 80's and I distinctly remember adults at the time bemoaning that kids didn't listen to them then like they used to in the 60's. I remember many instances of kids battering adults (and vice versa) Technology advances, culture declines, but human behaviour is always base at heart.

Absolute rubbish!

Kids will always try to go against authority but the vast majority of kids in the 80s/early 90s and prior to that respected their elders.

I'm 36 and when I was a kid if an adult told me off I paid attention, the same went for the majority of my friends. Yes there were some that didn't but they were the minority.

Unfortunately we now seem to have a generation of yoofs that go by the "you can't tell us what to do..... we know our rights" mentality and the majority of them we blatantly do what they like, when they like.

My niece is 14 and by no means a bad kid. I'll often get a phone call or text "Mum made me cry.... she's hurt my feelings", it'll usually transpire that she's been out of line and told off but they seem to be taught at school that no one has the right to hurt their feelings. Unfortunately no one seems to be explaining that it's wrong to upset others too!

All this namby-pambi "mustn't smack kids" etc has led to a generation of uncontrollable yoofs who fear no one and nothing.

Sure you had respect for adults, and maybe your friends did.
I saw plenty to contradict the "better in the old days" narrative in my school throughout the second half of the 80's. We had teenage pregnancies, teachers off sick with stress from being bullied by kids, a kid was stabbed once and the school burnt down by pupils twice.
So I don't accept for a moment that all was rosy and kids had some victorian notion of being seen but not heard etc.

Cosmo Spring wrote:

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
faecesbook strikes again.

anyone mentioning that they're having a party on facebook needs their head examining

There is going to be a big party at the council offices, straight after the meeting where they all congratulate each other for doing such a splendid job with the gritting.

Not A Native wrote:

Russ13 wrote:

Not A Native wrote:
She's the same age as me and she may "still live in the 80s when adults had authority" but I was a teen in the 80's and I distinctly remember adults at the time bemoaning that kids didn't listen to them then like they used to in the 60's. I remember many instances of kids battering adults (and vice versa) Technology advances, culture declines, but human behaviour is always base at heart.

Absolute rubbish!

Kids will always try to go against authority but the vast majority of kids in the 80s/early 90s and prior to that respected their elders.

I'm 36 and when I was a kid if an adult told me off I paid attention, the same went for the majority of my friends. Yes there were some that didn't but they were the minority.

Unfortunately we now seem to have a generation of yoofs that go by the "you can't tell us what to do..... we know our rights" mentality and the majority of them we blatantly do what they like, when they like.

My niece is 14 and by no means a bad kid. I'll often get a phone call or text "Mum made me cry.... she's hurt my feelings", it'll usually transpire that she's been out of line and told off but they seem to be taught at school that no one has the right to hurt their feelings. Unfortunately no one seems to be explaining that it's wrong to upset others too!

All this namby-pambi "mustn't smack kids" etc has led to a generation of uncontrollable yoofs who fear no one and nothing.

Sure you had respect for adults, and maybe your friends did.
I saw plenty to contradict the "better in the old days" narrative in my school throughout the second half of the 80's. We had teenage pregnancies, teachers off sick with stress from being bullied by kids, a kid was stabbed once and the school burnt down by pupils twice.
So I don't accept for a moment that all was rosy and kids had some victorian notion of being seen but not heard etc.

Of course it wasn't perfect, but I think the ratio of kids who had respect vs those that didn't was far higher than today. Since the WWII generation respect was a given. Since then each generation of kids has lost some respect. They in turn have kids and the cycle goes on.
That said, I absolutely agree with Russ13 comment above re: smacking. Problem with the PC brigade is that it treat kids as sensible/rational beings which they sometimes are not. An occassional smack never hurt me and when I look back, I think I deserved it !!
Villans are villans, no matter what age they are. The law has to change to allow the general public to arrest and apprehend if necessary.

The only difference with youngsters now
and in the 40s,50s and 60s,is that if you stepped out of line then,you suffered the consequences,now they all have rights,supported by the police.Try
cuffing a yob and you will end up in
trouble.

Nebs wrote:

Cosmo Spring wrote:

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
faecesbook strikes again.

anyone mentioning that they're having a party on facebook needs their head examining

There is going to be a big party at the council offices, straight after the meeting where they all congratulate each other for doing such a splendid job with the gritting.

overtime at Greggs!

Typical police - grab the wrong person!
A victim has no chance with the police. The look for the easy option rather than chasing criminals!
God help us
My father ( from a good law abiding middle class family, always warned me 'don't trust the police. they are too close to criminal elements and in many cases part of it')
so sad
i have rarely found the police helpful or sympathetic. frankly a lot of them are failed criminals and need to be watched very carefully.

raybar249 wrote:
What is going on with the younger youths of this generation!
I really do fear for my children's future.
Perhaps this government should bring back the days of national service.
In America, they have Boot Camp.
Can you imagine what effects a hard core drill instructor could bring on these disrespectful youth we have before us.
I love my children more than life itself, but I will be unable to keep them indoors forever, which frightens me so much of the thought of what future is to come, and even though I treasure my children tremendously, if I ever found out that they acted in this disgusting manner, I would not think twice about a drill instructor showing them the meanings of right & wrong.
I hope this poor mother gets over this ordeal quickly, and safely.

Do you really think today's youth will turn up too national service? Most teenagers now adays don't care about nothing lol.

These chav kids are the product of their scummy chav parents simple as that. Scum breeds scum. Don't call the police - they and the judges fail to give justice day after day. Their parents obviously didn't teach them discipline or respect and the left wing political class are happy to see muggers, rapists and murderers on our streets. Take the law into your own hands - the police have neither the power or the will to protect innocent people anymore. I'm wrong? Ask the families of those in wooden boxes killed by feral youths, rapists let out of jail to rape again and paedos now claiming to have their names off the register. Now tell me the law is on our side.

This attack is just typical of the scum that live in this part of Essex. The parents of the girls who attacked the woman are even worse.
Once again it's down to bad parenting.
Facebook and its like should be banned.

Seasider90 wrote:
These chav kids are the product of their scummy chav parents simple as that. Scum breeds scum. Don't call the police - they and the judges fail to give justice day after day. Their parents obviously didn't teach them discipline or respect and the left wing political class are happy to see muggers, rapists and murderers on our streets. Take the law into your own hands - the police have neither the power or the will to protect innocent people anymore. I'm wrong? Ask the families of those in wooden boxes killed by feral youths, rapists let out of jail to rape again and paedos now claiming to have their names off the register. Now tell me the law is on our side.

"...paedos now claiming to have their names off the register" ? I'd think they'd be pretty quiet about it and not claim anything.

As for police giving justice - unfortunately some of them seem to think that's in their brief, however I for one don't wish for cops to start doling out 'justice'

I sometimes wonder where it starts. I know I feel a little demoralised when I see a young mum walking along busy texting or chatting on her phone, blissfully unaware that her little toddler is some distance behind her. Perhaps that lack of care shows up like this later, for, if they can't manage to keep an eye when their child is around two, what the hell will be her remit when that same toddler enters the "Awkward" years?

I don't think its all the parents are at fault, i think the problem, is when they go to school, you have these troubled kids at school, there's no discipline, and good kids mix with with these problem kids, as parents you cannot keep a eye on what they do, its impossible, you can only steer them in the right direction, the rest is down to them, kid should know what is right or wrong!!!

Seasider90 wrote:
These chav kids are the product of their scummy chav parents simple as that. Scum breeds scum. Don't call the police - they and the judges fail to give justice day after day. Their parents obviously didn't teach them discipline or respect and the left wing political class are happy to see muggers, rapists and murderers on our streets. Take the law into your own hands - the police have neither the power or the will to protect innocent people anymore. I'm wrong? Ask the families of those in wooden boxes killed by feral youths, rapists let out of jail to rape again and paedos now claiming to have their names off the register. Now tell me the law is on our side.

The Police fail to give justice? Were you around in the 1950's when the Police actually did a little of that? When they caught me back then I ended up with a swift lash of the folded cape, followed by a walk to my home so he could tell my parents what I had done. Now it is a case of take down the facts, present them to the inspector, who will pass them on to the CPS (Who are not known as the "Cant prosecute service" for nothing!) and then begin the wait until you are told you didn't dot an I nor cross a T.

RobertFS wrote:
Typical police - grab the wrong person!
A victim has no chance with the police. The look for the easy option rather than chasing criminals!
God help us
My father ( from a good law abiding middle class family, always warned me 'don't trust the police. they are too close to criminal elements and in many cases part of it')
so sad
i have rarely found the police helpful or sympathetic. frankly a lot of them are failed criminals and need to be watched very carefully.

I think your father may have placed a huge chip on your shoulder. Why would your "Good "Middle Class" family" not trust the police? It seems to me that, in the last 30 or so years, many, many "Middle Class" citizens have been found to have committed the worst kinds of crime imaginable. As you class my son, who is an honest to goodness copper, as some kind of evil low life, then I think perhaps that is your take. Perhaps you are so full of hate and prejudice because you fear that, sooner rather than later, you will be found wanting.like so many of your fathers class!