Ambulance service failing patients (From Echo)

The Ambulance Service are doing their best while losing funding from central government.

Don't blame the Ambulance Service. blame George Osborne.

blame the waste.. the managment BMW s, the duplication of middle managment jobs and therefore wages etc.

What? You mean if you cut the number of ambulances in half to the point where the average waiting time for one to arrive is an hour people will suffer? Who could have seen that happening? Lucky we had a report to tell us

Red Under Your Bed wrote:
The Ambulance Service are doing their best while losing funding from central government.

Don't blame the Ambulance Service. blame George Osborne.

It has nothing to do with Government policy. It is down to very poor management.
Those who can't manage correctly will always blame Government policy.

Good job they're not the Fire Service......

The CQC has discovered that the Pope is a Catholic.
Of course the ambulance service has its failures, when it is insufficiently staffed, and hospitals' A and E departments are not staffed to take in patients immediately and let the ambulances back on the road.
As Red says, blame George Osborne.

Boris wrote:
The CQC has discovered that the Pope is a Catholic.
Of course the ambulance service has its failures, when it is insufficiently staffed, and hospitals' A and E departments are not staffed to take in patients immediately and let the ambulances back on the road.
As Red says, blame George Osborne.

Always an excuse for this lot, high time they were sacked, and the Ambulance service privatised, then see the word service, be once again applicable....

Carnabackable wrote:

Boris wrote: The CQC has discovered that the Pope is a Catholic. Of course the ambulance service has its failures, when it is insufficiently staffed, and hospitals' A and E departments are not staffed to take in patients immediately and let the ambulances back on the road. As Red says, blame George Osborne.

Always an excuse for this lot, high time they were sacked, and the Ambulance service privatised, then see the word service, be once again applicable....

If it was privatised then 'shareholder value' would be in front of patient care!

Everybody seems very quick to blame the Government and Management but perhaps we should look at the general populus that call on the Ambulance service for triva matters like a sore throut, oh ive got a splinter and such like. Stretching the service to breaking point. I think we also seem to forget how lucky we are to have such a fantastic NHS service. Yes they do get things wrong but dont we all!!! Lets Privitise the lot then see how we all suffer....

perini wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:

Boris wrote: The CQC has discovered that the Pope is a Catholic. Of course the ambulance service has its failures, when it is insufficiently staffed, and hospitals' A and E departments are not staffed to take in patients immediately and let the ambulances back on the road. As Red says, blame George Osborne.

Always an excuse for this lot, high time they were sacked, and the Ambulance service privatised, then see the word service, be once again applicable....

If it was privatised then 'shareholder value' would be in front of patient care!

Maybe, but at least there would be an ambulance, on time, and plenty of them around, let the NHS concentrate on the hospitals, let the private sector run the "Taxis" at the moment "Patient Care" is non existent, the NHS have now got tight budgets, over stretched ambulance service.PRIVATISE THE AMBULANCE SERVICE - AND ENJOY SPEEDY TRAVEL TO HOSPITAL.

If we privitise the Ambulance service, who is going to pay every time an ambulance is called? Maybe the private owners are going to do it for free!! Perhaps there will be a meter in them and you can pay when you get to hospital!! Sounds an excellent idea to me... NOT!!

Greatchef wrote:
If we privitise the Ambulance service, who is going to pay every time an ambulance is called? Maybe the private owners are going to do it for free!! Perhaps there will be a meter in them and you can pay when you get to hospital!! Sounds an excellent idea to me... NOT!!

IDIOT, the government will pay a fixed amount for the service to run, to run within it's own budget, with a leaner more committed work force, getting rid of those jumped up managers.

"...a leaner more
committed work force..." are you serious? What has the workforce got to do with it? Essex has lost half its ambulances, some areas have lost their ambulances altogether, i fail to see how the greatest workforce in the world could make up for that

Carnabackable wrote:

Greatchef wrote: If we privitise the Ambulance service, who is going to pay every time an ambulance is called? Maybe the private owners are going to do it for free!! Perhaps there will be a meter in them and you can pay when you get to hospital!! Sounds an excellent idea to me... NOT!!

IDIOT, the government will pay a fixed amount for the service to run, to run within it's own budget, with a leaner more committed work force, getting rid of those jumped up managers.

IDIOT!! is the person that believes a privitised service is going to offer a better service at cheaper cost!! take a look at everything else that has been privitised in this country and if you think we are better off then you are exceptionally deluded!!!

Carnabackable wrote:

perini wrote:

Carnabackable wrote:

Boris wrote: The CQC has discovered that the Pope is a Catholic. Of course the ambulance service has its failures, when it is insufficiently staffed, and hospitals' A and E departments are not staffed to take in patients immediately and let the ambulances back on the road. As Red says, blame George Osborne.

Always an excuse for this lot, high time they were sacked, and the Ambulance service privatised, then see the word service, be once again applicable....

If it was privatised then 'shareholder value' would be in front of patient care!

Maybe, but at least there would be an ambulance, on time, and plenty of them around, let the NHS concentrate on the hospitals, let the private sector run the "Taxis" at the moment "Patient Care" is non existent, the NHS have now got tight budgets, over stretched ambulance service.PRIVATISE THE AMBULANCE SERVICE - AND ENJOY SPEEDY TRAVEL TO HOSPITAL.

An ambulance is not a taxi, it is a mobile medical unit with staff highly specialised in savng lives wherever they can. If all you need to do is get to hospital quickly, call a cab.

Private ambulances may sound great until you´re the one lying in the back of one.

The skilled staff have been replaced by youngsters with a couple of weeks training, because they´re cheaper. So try not to bleed, or start going into shock, or have a seizure or heart attack. The training was basically a first aid course, and all that will happen is that they´ll try to drive a bit faster.

The bidding process has meant budgets are pared to the limit, which explains the strange knocking sound from the engine. The old guy who used to service all the ambulances has gone, but luckily it´s all been outsourced to a company who bid half of what anybody else did.

The defibs don´t work, because they´ve not been maintained. And they´re missing a lot of stuff because the arm´s-length purchasing subsidiary hasn´t paid the medical supplies company.

But they´ve got nice uniforms on and have achieved a performance rating of AAA, so the directors will get a nice big bonus.

romantic wrote:
Private ambulances may sound great until you´re the one lying in the back of one.

The skilled staff have been replaced by youngsters with a couple of weeks training, because they´re cheaper. So try not to bleed, or start going into shock, or have a seizure or heart attack. The training was basically a first aid course, and all that will happen is that they´ll try to drive a bit faster.

The bidding process has meant budgets are pared to the limit, which explains the strange knocking sound from the engine. The old guy who used to service all the ambulances has gone, but luckily it´s all been outsourced to a company who bid half of what anybody else did.

The defibs don´t work, because they´ve not been maintained. And they´re missing a lot of stuff because the arm´s-length purchasing subsidiary hasn´t paid the medical supplies company.

But they´ve got nice uniforms on and have achieved a performance rating of AAA, so the directors will get a nice big bonus.

Grow a pair, remember, as a tax payer, you only get out, what you put in......

Carnabackable wrote:

Greatchef wrote: If we privitise the Ambulance service, who is going to pay every time an ambulance is called? Maybe the private owners are going to do it for free!! Perhaps there will be a meter in them and you can pay when you get to hospital!! Sounds an excellent idea to me... NOT!!

IDIOT, the government will pay a fixed amount for the service to run, to run within it's own budget, with a leaner more committed work force, getting rid of those jumped up managers.

The only 'IDIOT' here is you. We've got PFI contracts bankrupting hospitals, and on the railways government subsidy to the fat cat train companies, exceeds that of most of Europe with their state run railways. If you really want to do something about saving the country some money, you'd be calling for the rolling back of privatisation, not more of the same.

But you are of course an ideologically obsessed 'IDIOT', but worse still, you're also completely insane by Einstein's definition. He considered insanity as those who carry on doing the same thing, yet expect different results. Stop embarrassing yourself on here, and go away and get the psychiatric treatment you clearly urgently need, and don't come back until you do. And get it soon, before these idiots in government, completely sell off the NHS to their fat cat friends.