Updated: Fire crews return to site of Felmores blaze

Picture courtesy of Essex Fire and Rescue Service

Picture courtesy of Essex Fire and Rescue Service

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TWO women were rescued from a flat fire in Felmores, Basildon.

Six fire crews tackled the fire in a wooden-framed building in Bockingham Green.

In recent years, there have been a number of fires in timber-framed buildings on the estate.

Fire crews said the flat was “100 per cent alight” when they arrived at the scene this afternoon.

They added it had spread to other properties.

Crews rescued two women from the flats both of whom have been left in the care of the ambulance service.

A 25-year-old woman suffered the effects of smoke inhalation.

At 4.50pm, the incident commander said the flat where the fire started was completely smoke logged and added the fire was spreading to several adjoining flats owing to the building's timber frame construction.

Crews used two hose reel jets and two covering jets to tackle the fire.

At 5.45pm, fire crews said the fire in the flat had been contained and crews were working to tackle "hidden seats" of fire in the roof space.

The cause of the fire is unknown at this stage.

Fire and police investigators wll carry out a joint inquiry.

John Harris, Essex Fire and Rescue Service assistant divisiona officer, said: "Crews did a magnificent job in preventing the spread of fire - with the construction of the flats and the location of the flat where the fire started at the corner of the block, their prompt action undoubtedly went a long way in preventing more damage.

"As it is three properties are uninhabitable tonight - the fire flat and neighbouring properties on either side. Beyond that two more flats have suffered some smoke damage.

"Crews are still on scene damping down to make sure the fire is fully extinguished and awaiting Gas and Electricity engineers to isolate power supplies so that we can leave the area safe.

"One woman was rescued by a neighbour before the arrival of crews. She was left in the care of the ambulance service. There are not believed to be any further casualties.

"Our job now will be to investigate the cause of the incident. Once crews leave the scene, we will send a relief pump to the site later this evening to ensure all remains safe."

Crews returned to the scene of the blaze at 10.30pm on Monday evening and at 7am today to ensure the blaze remained out and had not reignited.

They used specialist thermal imaging cameras to check for any hotspots.

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5:13pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Howard Chase says...

it's deja vu all over again
it's deja vu all over again Howard Chase
  • Score: 5

5:18pm Mon 29 Jul 13

VanRes says...

Lets hope all residents and fire crews are safe and well.
Lets hope all residents and fire crews are safe and well. VanRes
  • Score: 8

5:33pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Basildon Council Communications says...

Council staff are onsite and arranging temporary accommodation for those affected.
Council staff are onsite and arranging temporary accommodation for those affected. Basildon Council Communications
  • Score: 7

5:46pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Lordmountfield says...

Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable
Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable Lordmountfield
  • Score: 10

6:26pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Howard Chase says...

next council estate for demolition and redeveloment?
next council estate for demolition and redeveloment? Howard Chase
  • Score: 4

6:26pm Mon 29 Jul 13

VanRes says...

Lordmountfield wrote:
Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable
Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village.
[quote][p][bold]Lordmountfield[/bold] wrote: Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable[/p][/quote]Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village. VanRes
  • Score: 6

6:51pm Mon 29 Jul 13

tigger1956 says...

You don't feel very safe in these house's I'm not sure the cladding with be much help and again lucky no one was killed but how long I wonder.
You don't feel very safe in these house's I'm not sure the cladding with be much help and again lucky no one was killed but how long I wonder. tigger1956
  • Score: 6

6:57pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Howard Chase says...

VanRes wrote:
Lordmountfield wrote:
Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable
Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village.
they've still got quite a bit of Gloucester Park they could sell off to fund it before they start chipping bits off Lake Meadows....
[quote][p][bold]VanRes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lordmountfield[/bold] wrote: Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable[/p][/quote]Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village.[/p][/quote]they've still got quite a bit of Gloucester Park they could sell off to fund it before they start chipping bits off Lake Meadows.... Howard Chase
  • Score: 0

10:55pm Mon 29 Jul 13

twiglight says...

Everyone wants to move from felmores, perhaps thats the only way out
Everyone wants to move from felmores, perhaps thats the only way out twiglight
  • Score: -2

12:04am Tue 30 Jul 13

djdosa says...

Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!! djdosa
  • Score: 3

12:07am Tue 30 Jul 13

djdosa says...

Basildon Council Communications wrote:
Council staff are onsite and arranging temporary accommodation for those affected.
Maybe if you sorted out the issue before then you wouldn't have to rehouse people! You have been aware of the dangers for years now but still dragging your heals over sorting the issue out. What exactly are you waiting for? Someone to die???? You have a big part of blame in this. Sort out these houses!!
[quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: Council staff are onsite and arranging temporary accommodation for those affected.[/p][/quote]Maybe if you sorted out the issue before then you wouldn't have to rehouse people! You have been aware of the dangers for years now but still dragging your heals over sorting the issue out. What exactly are you waiting for? Someone to die???? You have a big part of blame in this. Sort out these houses!! djdosa
  • Score: 6

8:34am Tue 30 Jul 13

das57_uk says...

Yes here we are again yet another fire on
Felmores if we did not have the best fire station
In England lives would have been lost by now,
While the elite of Basildon council waste money
On sporting villages and legal fees for the dale farm
Shambles open another bottle of champagne here here!
Yes here we are again yet another fire on Felmores if we did not have the best fire station In England lives would have been lost by now, While the elite of Basildon council waste money On sporting villages and legal fees for the dale farm Shambles open another bottle of champagne here here! das57_uk
  • Score: 5

8:44am Tue 30 Jul 13

jameskerin says...

I live on felmores and late last year we were informed that by summer 2013 work will start on new fire proof cladding. We even get to choose the colour (wooo)

So far 5 homes have been done on the fire damaged homes on Winstree. We have heard nothing and now another 3 homes destroyed by fire. When will the council wake up? I live in a top floor flat with my wife and 3 year old son. This fire as sent shock waves down my spine. I thank my lucky stars it isn't my flat burnt to a crisp but whos property is next?

Next time the council could have blood on their hands. Get the cladding sorted NOW
I live on felmores and late last year we were informed that by summer 2013 work will start on new fire proof cladding. We even get to choose the colour (wooo) So far 5 homes have been done on the fire damaged homes on Winstree. We have heard nothing and now another 3 homes destroyed by fire. When will the council wake up? I live in a top floor flat with my wife and 3 year old son. This fire as sent shock waves down my spine. I thank my lucky stars it isn't my flat burnt to a crisp but whos property is next? Next time the council could have blood on their hands. Get the cladding sorted NOW jameskerin
  • Score: 5

9:21am Tue 30 Jul 13

Woodenspoon says...

I wonder if the fires are started deliberately???
It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed.
This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you?
The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding.
The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.
I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests. Woodenspoon
  • Score: 2

10:24am Tue 30 Jul 13

ballyblue says...

Woodenspoon wrote:
I wonder if the fires are started deliberately???
It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed.
This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you?
The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding.
The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.
hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden
[quote][p][bold]Woodenspoon[/bold] wrote: I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.[/p][/quote]hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden ballyblue
  • Score: 0

10:26am Tue 30 Jul 13

ballyblue says...

Sorry to be a snob but this end has very few of the homes that are built like like felmores
Sorry to be a snob but this end has very few of the homes that are built like like felmores ballyblue
  • Score: 1

10:39am Tue 30 Jul 13

djdosa says...

ballyblue wrote:
Woodenspoon wrote: I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.
hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden
Are you suggesting that people are setting fire to their own houses destroying all their possessions and nearly killing themselves and others just because they are unhappy with the timber framing? Bit of a stupid comment. If its not intended in thr way then you need to write
[quote][p][bold]ballyblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woodenspoon[/bold] wrote: I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.[/p][/quote]hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that people are setting fire to their own houses destroying all their possessions and nearly killing themselves and others just because they are unhappy with the timber framing? Bit of a stupid comment. If its not intended in thr way then you need to write djdosa
  • Score: 2

10:46am Tue 30 Jul 13

Woodenspoon says...

ballyblue wrote:
Woodenspoon wrote:
I wonder if the fires are started deliberately???
It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed.
This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you?
The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding.
The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.
hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden
Timber framed houses are still timber framed houses, just because 1 wall or part of a wall is brick offers no defense from a fire within the house. It still does not stop the fire from spreading through the houses. Timber is flammable and will still burn. Granted, they may not be totally built of timber but they will still burn just as much/badly as the rest of the estate. The whole lot should be rebuilt to current building regs. They would certainly not pass any building regs at the moment on any aspect. The same applies to all the prefabricated bungalows that were only built as a temporary measure after the war, which are still being used to date. These are possibly full of asbestos and classed as a health hazard.
[quote][p][bold]ballyblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woodenspoon[/bold] wrote: I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.[/p][/quote]hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden[/p][/quote]Timber framed houses are still timber framed houses, just because 1 wall or part of a wall is brick offers no defense from a fire within the house. It still does not stop the fire from spreading through the houses. Timber is flammable and will still burn. Granted, they may not be totally built of timber but they will still burn just as much/badly as the rest of the estate. The whole lot should be rebuilt to current building regs. They would certainly not pass any building regs at the moment on any aspect. The same applies to all the prefabricated bungalows that were only built as a temporary measure after the war, which are still being used to date. These are possibly full of asbestos and classed as a health hazard. Woodenspoon
  • Score: -1

12:59pm Tue 30 Jul 13

Howard Chase says...

Woodenspoon wrote:
ballyblue wrote:
Woodenspoon wrote:
I wonder if the fires are started deliberately???
It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed.
This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you?
The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding.
The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.
hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden
Timber framed houses are still timber framed houses, just because 1 wall or part of a wall is brick offers no defense from a fire within the house. It still does not stop the fire from spreading through the houses. Timber is flammable and will still burn. Granted, they may not be totally built of timber but they will still burn just as much/badly as the rest of the estate. The whole lot should be rebuilt to current building regs. They would certainly not pass any building regs at the moment on any aspect. The same applies to all the prefabricated bungalows that were only built as a temporary measure after the war, which are still being used to date. These are possibly full of asbestos and classed as a health hazard.
if the council had to start rebuilding all their stock that wasn't up to current building regs at least half of Pitsea would have to be rebuilt.
[quote][p][bold]Woodenspoon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballyblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woodenspoon[/bold] wrote: I wonder if the fires are started deliberately??? It would seem to me that some of them are as a means to be re-housed. This is not the only part of Pitsea that has these houses, yet you don't see reports of fires in the other areas, do you? The likes of Montsale, Fairfax Ave, Tenterfields, Shirley Gardens, Great Ranton, Lanhams, Snowdonia Close, etc to name just a few are all the same. They are all timber framed houses with timber cladding. The whole estate could be and should be re-built just as Craylands is being done at the moment. Forget about spending millions on evicting a few people then giving them more land and more money to create a unique community. They should be made to live in the community, like the community if they want to be a part of the community, or do as their prefered title suggests.[/p][/quote]hello thos you have just named don't have a lot wooden homes Snowdonia where I live does not and most have brick and morter. I was very apprehensive about moving here and would not of done if it had been wooden[/p][/quote]Timber framed houses are still timber framed houses, just because 1 wall or part of a wall is brick offers no defense from a fire within the house. It still does not stop the fire from spreading through the houses. Timber is flammable and will still burn. Granted, they may not be totally built of timber but they will still burn just as much/badly as the rest of the estate. The whole lot should be rebuilt to current building regs. They would certainly not pass any building regs at the moment on any aspect. The same applies to all the prefabricated bungalows that were only built as a temporary measure after the war, which are still being used to date. These are possibly full of asbestos and classed as a health hazard.[/p][/quote]if the council had to start rebuilding all their stock that wasn't up to current building regs at least half of Pitsea would have to be rebuilt. Howard Chase
  • Score: 2

2:12pm Tue 30 Jul 13

voodoo666 says...

i laugh at the council saying they have offered accomdation for one victims family ... offered a hostel for a family of five (mother pregnant,ill daughter) and its not even in basildon..but in southend...dont you think this family needs there friends and family around this tough time ???? shame on you
i laugh at the council saying they have offered accomdation for one victims family ... offered a hostel for a family of five (mother pregnant,ill daughter) and its not even in basildon..but in southend...dont you think this family needs there friends and family around this tough time ???? shame on you voodoo666
  • Score: 2

2:22pm Tue 30 Jul 13

voodoo666 says...

let just say this council wastes money up to now they have only had a pets death on they hands last night ..wot will it take to really tackle this problem out on felmores....lives ?????? ...
let just say this council wastes money up to now they have only had a pets death on they hands last night ..wot will it take to really tackle this problem out on felmores....lives ?????? ... voodoo666
  • Score: 0

2:27pm Tue 30 Jul 13

Woodenspoon says...

Accommodation is accommodation, regardless of where it is. Would they rather have a hostel in Southend or nothing in Basildon?
In this day and age it is not hard or difficult to get from Southend to Basildon or vice-versa. As long as they are warm, dry, safe and have food does it matter where they are? NO!!
Some people just don't know when to be thankful, always have to moan that they have not been put up in a 5* hotel with sauna and gym with room service.
Thankless parasites.
Accommodation is accommodation, regardless of where it is. Would they rather have a hostel in Southend or nothing in Basildon? In this day and age it is not hard or difficult to get from Southend to Basildon or vice-versa. As long as they are warm, dry, safe and have food does it matter where they are? NO!! Some people just don't know when to be thankful, always have to moan that they have not been put up in a 5* hotel with sauna and gym with room service. Thankless parasites. Woodenspoon
  • Score: 3

5:30pm Tue 30 Jul 13

Basildon Council Communications says...

voodoo666 wrote:
i laugh at the council saying they have offered accomdation for one victims family ... offered a hostel for a family of five (mother pregnant,ill daughter) and its not even in basildon..but in southend...dont you think this family needs there friends and family around this tough time ???? shame on you
All those affected have been rehoused temporarily, be it in a hotel or hostel.

The family of 5 were placed in the Campanile, not a hostel in Southend, and family of 4 in The Watermill.
[quote][p][bold]voodoo666[/bold] wrote: i laugh at the council saying they have offered accomdation for one victims family ... offered a hostel for a family of five (mother pregnant,ill daughter) and its not even in basildon..but in southend...dont you think this family needs there friends and family around this tough time ???? shame on you[/p][/quote]All those affected have been rehoused temporarily, be it in a hotel or hostel. The family of 5 were placed in the Campanile, not a hostel in Southend, and family of 4 in The Watermill. Basildon Council Communications
  • Score: 6

10:24pm Tue 30 Jul 13

Basildon Council Communications says...

djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
[quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally. Basildon Council Communications
  • Score: 3

6:36am Wed 31 Jul 13

jameskerin says...

Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
[quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year? jameskerin
  • Score: 1

10:43am Wed 31 Jul 13

Howard Chase says...

jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
they've got to sell off some more green space to be able to afford it, probably.

Get the best price for land if they chop a few acres off Lake Meadows.
[quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?[/p][/quote]they've got to sell off some more green space to be able to afford it, probably. Get the best price for land if they chop a few acres off Lake Meadows. Howard Chase
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Wed 31 Jul 13

benfleet101 says...

VanRes wrote:
Lordmountfield wrote:
Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable
Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village.
I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either.
[quote][p][bold]VanRes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lordmountfield[/bold] wrote: Why dont they use bricks and mortar, its proved pretty reliable[/p][/quote]Sorry to turn this into a political debate so soon.... Clearly the council will argue they cannot afford to tear down and re-build these types of properties, however as we know only too well £38m is being found to pay for the Sporting Village.[/p][/quote]I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either. benfleet101
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Wed 31 Jul 13

benfleet101 says...

jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either.
[quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?[/p][/quote]I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either. benfleet101
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12:21pm Wed 31 Jul 13

benfleet101 says...

djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either.
[quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either. benfleet101
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2:17pm Wed 31 Jul 13

das57_uk says...

benfleet101 says...

djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either.

I think you miss the point the felmores houses are all timber, timber frame as well as timber clad none fire treated wood though out the fire men call this estate the tinder box and when a fire is reported on felmores they put all surrounding fire crews on stand bye two independent fire reports have stated these houses pose a danger to life of the residents who live in them!
benfleet101 says... djdosa wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!! I lived on the estate next door to Felmores. A lovely little house, we bought it in 1982. It was also timber framed, the whole of that private estate is. That estate has not had a particular problem with fires, the residents are not deemed at risk and nobody is shouting that it needs to be torn down - indeed the properties are selling well, mortgageable and the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem either. I think you miss the point the felmores houses are all timber, timber frame as well as timber clad none fire treated wood though out the fire men call this estate the tinder box and when a fire is reported on felmores they put all surrounding fire crews on stand bye two independent fire reports have stated these houses pose a danger to life of the residents who live in them! das57_uk
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4:36pm Wed 31 Jul 13

Basildon Council Communications says...

jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.
[quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?[/p][/quote]The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014. Basildon Council Communications
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4:49pm Wed 31 Jul 13

das57_uk says...

Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.

That's Great the same thing you told me four years ago we will start in april
then every april for four years yet Bockingham green is no safer then Friday the 13th 2009
THE MP for Basildon has visited a fire-ravaged estate to see for herself why residents are worried about safety following a damning dossier.
Last week, the Echo revealed a string of revelations about the wood-clad properties on the Bockingham Green estate in Felmores, Basildon, which was ripped apart by fire last November.
We told how, of the 88 homes in Bockingham Green, only four – those owned by Swan Housing – had been subject to a fire risk assessment.
The rest hadn’t, despite legislation requiring assessments having being passed in 2006.
When the assessment finally was carried out – two months after the devastating blaze – it found there was a “substantial” risk of serious injury or death to residents in the event of a fire.
Basildon Council Communications wrote: djdosa wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!! the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally. So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year? The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014. That's Great the same thing you told me four years ago we will start in april then every april for four years yet Bockingham green is no safer then Friday the 13th 2009 THE MP for Basildon has visited a fire-ravaged estate to see for herself why residents are worried about safety following a damning dossier. Last week, the Echo revealed a string of revelations about the wood-clad properties on the Bockingham Green estate in Felmores, Basildon, which was ripped apart by fire last November. We told how, of the 88 homes in Bockingham Green, only four – those owned by Swan Housing – had been subject to a fire risk assessment. The rest hadn’t, despite legislation requiring assessments having being passed in 2006. When the assessment finally was carried out – two months after the devastating blaze – it found there was a “substantial” risk of serious injury or death to residents in the event of a fire. das57_uk
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6:19pm Wed 31 Jul 13

jameskerin says...

Basildon Council Communications wrote:
jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.
I'll believe it when I see it!
[quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?[/p][/quote]The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.[/p][/quote]I'll believe it when I see it! jameskerin
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9:57pm Wed 31 Jul 13

TheWizzard says...

Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
Human error? Explain
[quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]Human error? Explain TheWizzard
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7:36am Thu 1 Aug 13

Basildon Council Communications says...

TheWizzard wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote:
Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
Human error? Explain
As in an accident but not malicious.
[quote][p][bold]TheWizzard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]Human error? Explain[/p][/quote]As in an accident but not malicious. Basildon Council Communications
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2:39am Sat 3 Aug 13

debbie81 says...

i think everyone got this wrong it is a family of six that got put in the campanile and they didnt moan
i think everyone got this wrong it is a family of six that got put in the campanile and they didnt moan debbie81
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11:21am Mon 5 Aug 13

beverman says...

jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
jameskerin wrote:
Basildon Council Communications wrote:
djdosa wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!!
the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.
So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?
The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.
I'll believe it when I see it!
Don't live there then. Move out.
No one is forcing you to stay. You are there by choice.
Remember that.
[quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jameskerin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon Council Communications[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]djdosa[/bold] wrote: Dear Basildon Council; are you waiting for someone to die before you sort out the timer framing????!!!! And death will be on your hands!![/p][/quote]the last three fires have been caused by arson and in this instance human error. These fires have not been caused by the timber cladding and our understanding is that this fire was well contained within the flat that the fire started and the flats above have not been damaged internally.[/p][/quote]So 'Basildon Council Communications' when are we going to get our new fire proof cladding installed that you promised last year?[/p][/quote]The work starts in three weeks and will be completed by Aug 2014.[/p][/quote]I'll believe it when I see it![/p][/quote]Don't live there then. Move out. No one is forcing you to stay. You are there by choice. Remember that. beverman
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