David Cameron gets a taste of Rossi ice cream

Echo: David Cameron gets a taste of Rossi ice cream David Cameron gets a taste of Rossi ice cream

PRIME Minister David Cameron wolfed down Rossi ice cream as he was invited to open Southend Airport’s new terminal.

James Duddridge, MP for Rochford and Southend East, used the sweet treat to tempt the Tory leader to Southend in celebration of the airport’s success yesterday.

Mr Cameron is yet to confirm the seaside visit, but he finished a tub of vanilla at a meeting with backbench colleagues around the Downing Street cabinet table.

Mr Duddridge, who also left 11 tubs of lemon sorbet and chocolate icecream from the Southend firm for Mr Cameron’s wife and their three children, said: “He was really pleased.

“He enjoyed it and thoroughly finished it and, if it wasn’t for being dragged off for another meeting with ministers, he would have tucked into another.”

The delivery to Downing Street followed a dispatch of tubs by Rossi Bear, mascot of the Lucy Road-based company, who arrived at Mr Duddridge’s Thorpe Bay home yesterday morning with a selection, including Christmas special icecream, which is white chocolate and marshmallow, and lemon sorbet.

Mr Duddridge drove the plug-in freezer to Number 10, where he was taking part in a meeting of the 1922 Committee, which helps keep the Prime Minister in touch with backbench Conservatives.

Mr Cameron supplied quiche, new potatoes and fruit juice for the meeting – but Mr Duddridge trumped him by handing out mini-tubs to everyone present.

The charmoffensive came just one day after Mr Duddridge invited Mr Cameron to Southend for an “Essexstyle”

celebration of the airport’s success at New Year during Prime Minister’s Question Time.

Mr Duddridge promised to treat the PM’s family to “a Rossi” on the seafront if he came, but then went one step further by taking the icecream straight to the top.

He said: “He was amazed I brought it so soon after my comments during Prime Minister’s Question Time.”

Colin Gray, director of Rossi Ice Cream, said: “We were delighted to hear the Prime Minister enjoyed Rossi Ice Cream and understand he was particularly partial to the vanilla flavour.

“We are proud that Rossi ice cream is recognised in the corridors of power having been part of the City of Culture bid earlier in the year.

“As Rossi ice cream is synonymous with the town of Southend, we are always pleased to assist our local MPs in continuing to raise the profile of the town and the county of Essex.”

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8:05am Sat 14 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Always knew you had taste Boss......
Always knew you had taste Boss...... Nowthatsworthknowing

8:32am Sat 14 Dec 13

Southend Andy says...

Love him or hate him it would be great for the town if he did open the new terminal at the airport. I know a few people who will disagree as they hate everything to do with Southend, the airport & the torys (jayman).
Love him or hate him it would be great for the town if he did open the new terminal at the airport. I know a few people who will disagree as they hate everything to do with Southend, the airport & the torys (jayman). Southend Andy

8:37am Sat 14 Dec 13

Rochford Rob says...

That Duddridge bloke sounds like a proper R-Slicker.

Should have told drippy Dave what a mess the country is in instead of giving him another freebie.
That Duddridge bloke sounds like a proper R-Slicker. Should have told drippy Dave what a mess the country is in instead of giving him another freebie. Rochford Rob

9:15am Sat 14 Dec 13

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Southend Andy wrote:
Love him or hate him it would be great for the town if he did open the new terminal at the airport. I know a few people who will disagree as they hate everything to do with Southend, the airport & the torys (jayman).
Looking forward to the New Year, and the 11%
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Love him or hate him it would be great for the town if he did open the new terminal at the airport. I know a few people who will disagree as they hate everything to do with Southend, the airport & the torys (jayman).[/p][/quote]Looking forward to the New Year, and the 11% Nowthatsworthknowing

9:39am Sat 14 Dec 13

Howard Cháse says...

They're lucky he didn't bring his hungry pal Eric 'Gutbucket' Pickles with him. Although it would have meant loads of overtime at the ice cream factory
They're lucky he didn't bring his hungry pal Eric 'Gutbucket' Pickles with him. Although it would have meant loads of overtime at the ice cream factory Howard Cháse

11:44am Sat 14 Dec 13

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Best ice cream in the world, pity we cant say that about the prime minister
Best ice cream in the world, pity we cant say that about the prime minister CHRISTMAS CAROL

11:50am Sat 14 Dec 13

pendulum says...

Twottington-Duddridg
e
Twottington-Duddridg e pendulum

2:16pm Sat 14 Dec 13

whataday says...

Should have given him a taste of something else - like a boot up the jacksy
Should have given him a taste of something else - like a boot up the jacksy whataday

2:20pm Sat 14 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess! returnoftheleftie

3:11pm Sat 14 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder profondo asbo

3:25pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

What he needed was a trip to Southend Hospital to sew on a pair.

However, knowing the reputation of Southend hospital, he would have had some time to reflect on the state of the NHS for once.
What he needed was a trip to Southend Hospital to sew on a pair. However, knowing the reputation of Southend hospital, he would have had some time to reflect on the state of the NHS for once. Kim Gandy

4:21pm Sat 14 Dec 13

jolllyboy says...

perhaps the MP hasnt told him Stobarts havent paid their rent which is overdue - will they be evicted ?
perhaps the MP hasnt told him Stobarts havent paid their rent which is overdue - will they be evicted ? jolllyboy

10:04pm Sat 14 Dec 13

heartbeat says...

I have to say I think this was quite a clever move on the part of JD. Hopefully it will raise some kind of fondness for Southend Iand Rossi's, definitely a national treasure) and lo and behold Southend will get its £££ millions to upgrade and get on a par with Brighton and other desirable resorts. It's about time - it's only the age-old reputation of Southend that holds it back and makes people mock.
I have to say I think this was quite a clever move on the part of JD. Hopefully it will raise some kind of fondness for Southend Iand Rossi's, definitely a national treasure) and lo and behold Southend will get its £££ millions to upgrade and get on a par with Brighton and other desirable resorts. It's about time - it's only the age-old reputation of Southend that holds it back and makes people mock. heartbeat

8:49am Sun 15 Dec 13

southendmike says...

Although I've now retired to Wiltshire, I shall retain fond memories of having a Rossi cornet on the Seafront!
Although I've now retired to Wiltshire, I shall retain fond memories of having a Rossi cornet on the Seafront! southendmike

10:32am Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians. returnoftheleftie

11:15am Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.[/p][/quote]i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused? profondo asbo

12:37pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?
More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind.

And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.[/p][/quote]i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?[/p][/quote]More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind. And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it. returnoftheleftie

1:49pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?
More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind.

And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.
the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more.

http://www.usadebtcl
ock.com/

keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid.

as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now.
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.[/p][/quote]i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?[/p][/quote]More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind. And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.[/p][/quote]the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more. http://www.usadebtcl ock.com/ keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid. as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now. profondo asbo

4:09pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?
More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind.

And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.
the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more.

http://www.usadebtcl

ock.com/

keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid.

as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now.
None of which is relevant to what I was talking about, particularly blaming the previous neo-liberal government, which I pointed out in the first post as the tories with red rosettes. You are also the one that asked about my personal experience with racism, which I didn't put into a timeframe anyway.

No politician with a hope of getting in power cares about anything other than keeping the massive corporations happy, which is why they get away with dodging tens of billions of pounds that could have been used to stop OAP's freezing and children starving.

But, don't let that get in the way of you finding a convoluted way to attack migrants. You might want to look for a side-job with the tories as a speech writer though, "um um um it's labours fault" is still a popular line, and when they get booted out, you just have to switch it to "um um um it's the tories fault" and you can keep right on. Meanwhile, I will continue to be concerned with all the grannyciccles and starving kids.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.[/p][/quote]i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?[/p][/quote]More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind. And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.[/p][/quote]the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more. http://www.usadebtcl ock.com/ keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid. as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now.[/p][/quote]None of which is relevant to what I was talking about, particularly blaming the previous neo-liberal government, which I pointed out in the first post as the tories with red rosettes. You are also the one that asked about my personal experience with racism, which I didn't put into a timeframe anyway. No politician with a hope of getting in power cares about anything other than keeping the massive corporations happy, which is why they get away with dodging tens of billions of pounds that could have been used to stop OAP's freezing and children starving. But, don't let that get in the way of you finding a convoluted way to attack migrants. You might want to look for a side-job with the tories as a speech writer though, "um um um it's labours fault" is still a popular line, and when they get booted out, you just have to switch it to "um um um it's the tories fault" and you can keep right on. Meanwhile, I will continue to be concerned with all the grannyciccles and starving kids. returnoftheleftie

4:33pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too!

Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess!
hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder
I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.
i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?
More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind.

And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.
the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more.

http://www.usadebtcl


ock.com/

keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid.

as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now.
None of which is relevant to what I was talking about, particularly blaming the previous neo-liberal government, which I pointed out in the first post as the tories with red rosettes. You are also the one that asked about my personal experience with racism, which I didn't put into a timeframe anyway.

No politician with a hope of getting in power cares about anything other than keeping the massive corporations happy, which is why they get away with dodging tens of billions of pounds that could have been used to stop OAP's freezing and children starving.

But, don't let that get in the way of you finding a convoluted way to attack migrants. You might want to look for a side-job with the tories as a speech writer though, "um um um it's labours fault" is still a popular line, and when they get booted out, you just have to switch it to "um um um it's the tories fault" and you can keep right on. Meanwhile, I will continue to be concerned with all the grannyciccles and starving kids.
ok so your solution is to scare all the potential employers away from these shores. yep sounds like a winner. nuclear winter anyone??

your "sympathy" is with the low paid and yet your philosophy is to greenlight as much imported slave labour as possible undercutting all our local resources. another sure-fire winner. what's your next great idea? .

your obnoxiously aggressive postings have so failed to convince me of your altruistic intentions i can only lay the blame at self interest. let's just call it me, myself and i.
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: Hopefully he can sample some of our fine poverty, racism and crime too, all in massive supply round here, and he and his forebears (the tories with red rosettes too) had a lot to do in creating it too! Or maybe it will be quietly forgotten and Duddridge can get back to what he does best- skimming expenses and ignoring his constituents, maybe one day he will be as good at that as Amess![/p][/quote]hark... i hear little miss chip on her shoulder[/p][/quote]I guess I do have a chip on my shoulder about poverty, racism, crime and corrupt/inefficient politicians.[/p][/quote]i'm guessing it's specifically your poverty that you're chippy about ie the politics of envy? can't see why racism is specifically an issue that has deteriorated under this administration.... have you been racially abused?[/p][/quote]More than half the people in poverty are in work, every 15 minutes another family is rendered homeless, 350,000 people using just one organisations foodbanks in only six months, red cross distributing food parcels for the first time since the second world war. Age concern predict 25,000+ deaths due to cold weather this winter. When a single corporation dodges enough in tax to wipe this out, I guess the people starving and freezing are envious, you know, of working hard but still going hungry and cold while a select few rob the place blind. And yes, as it happens, I have been racially abused. I have seen family, friends and neighbours suffer it too. When you get notes through the door saying "go home you ******* *******", or help someone scrub a swastika off their door, you tend to get somewhat of a chip on your shoulder about it.[/p][/quote]the economic crisis was caused by the previous administration. the panacea will be another 7-10 years of ferocious austerity. you ain't seen nothing yet. you do not solve a debt crisis by borrowing more. http://www.usadebtcl ock.com/ keynesianism never worked in history and it will not work now i can assure you. the bust will be far larger unless we roll up the sleeves and tackle the debt load now. that means pain all round i'm afraid. as for your experience of racism don't tell me this has only occurred under the present administration. with economic hardship and wanton immigration comes nationalism and that is why we must close our borders now.[/p][/quote]None of which is relevant to what I was talking about, particularly blaming the previous neo-liberal government, which I pointed out in the first post as the tories with red rosettes. You are also the one that asked about my personal experience with racism, which I didn't put into a timeframe anyway. No politician with a hope of getting in power cares about anything other than keeping the massive corporations happy, which is why they get away with dodging tens of billions of pounds that could have been used to stop OAP's freezing and children starving. But, don't let that get in the way of you finding a convoluted way to attack migrants. You might want to look for a side-job with the tories as a speech writer though, "um um um it's labours fault" is still a popular line, and when they get booted out, you just have to switch it to "um um um it's the tories fault" and you can keep right on. Meanwhile, I will continue to be concerned with all the grannyciccles and starving kids.[/p][/quote]ok so your solution is to scare all the potential employers away from these shores. yep sounds like a winner. nuclear winter anyone?? your "sympathy" is with the low paid and yet your philosophy is to greenlight as much imported slave labour as possible undercutting all our local resources. another sure-fire winner. what's your next great idea? . your obnoxiously aggressive postings have so failed to convince me of your altruistic intentions i can only lay the blame at self interest. let's just call it me, myself and i. profondo asbo

4:39pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

oh i forgot your other "winner". drown ourselves in more debt and then get the imf in. sound familiar?
oh i forgot your other "winner". drown ourselves in more debt and then get the imf in. sound familiar? profondo asbo

5:00pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

So, let's see. Strawman arguments. All three of em, are you inventing a position no-one else mentioned (scare away employers, greenlight slave labour, get in more debt) and then attacking it.

Weak, and deceitful at best.

Unless you want to show where anyone was promoting such positions?

Oh wait.... I think we have been here before!
So, let's see. Strawman arguments. All three of em, are you inventing a position no-one else mentioned (scare away employers, greenlight slave labour, get in more debt) and then attacking it. Weak, and deceitful at best. Unless you want to show where anyone was promoting such positions? Oh wait.... I think we have been here before! returnoftheleftie

5:21pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

you have no solution. just the print press, debt and bust. oh and the politics of envy
you have no solution. just the print press, debt and bust. oh and the politics of envy profondo asbo

5:23pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

by the bucket...
by the bucket... profondo asbo

6:04pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

Ah, an ad hominem/strawman combo to follow up the triple strawman. What's the next logical fallacy, a tu quoque or perhaps a no true scotsman?
Ah, an ad hominem/strawman combo to follow up the triple strawman. What's the next logical fallacy, a tu quoque or perhaps a no true scotsman? returnoftheleftie

6:07pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

you have nothing to offer. just ideological bs and chippiness by the crate.
you have nothing to offer. just ideological bs and chippiness by the crate. profondo asbo

6:23pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
you have nothing to offer. just ideological bs and chippiness by the crate.
You really don't like having your constant logical fallacies pointed out, do you?

Perhaps you should question yourself why you have to resort to such actions, although it may prove somewhat uncomfortable!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: you have nothing to offer. just ideological bs and chippiness by the crate.[/p][/quote]You really don't like having your constant logical fallacies pointed out, do you? Perhaps you should question yourself why you have to resort to such actions, although it may prove somewhat uncomfortable! returnoftheleftie

6:39pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

put your solutions down in black and white else get back in your box clown. giving yourself thumbs up is pretty desperate btw.
put your solutions down in black and white else get back in your box clown. giving yourself thumbs up is pretty desperate btw. profondo asbo

6:54pm Sun 15 Dec 13

My Britain says...

This country will in time belong to all the immigrants that come hear, with there so called imployers starting up company's over hear, they will employ there own, who will work for low wages, it's happing now, streets of polish shops, we will end up buying from them at a cheaper price, this is what we got to look forward to, while Cameron the silly fuc--r eat ice cream, and has his mug photo, taken at a funeral, there all the same labour, concervitive, all come out rich, and fu-k the country up!!!
This country will in time belong to all the immigrants that come hear, with there so called imployers starting up company's over hear, they will employ there own, who will work for low wages, it's happing now, streets of polish shops, we will end up buying from them at a cheaper price, this is what we got to look forward to, while Cameron the silly fuc--r eat ice cream, and has his mug photo, taken at a funeral, there all the same labour, concervitive, all come out rich, and fu-k the country up!!! My Britain

6:57pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
put your solutions down in black and white else get back in your box clown. giving yourself thumbs up is pretty desperate btw.
Another ad hominem, and a delusional accusation. Tut tut.

What precisely is your thought process while making all these logical fallacies- Are you aware you are making them at the time, or does it happen subconsciously?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: put your solutions down in black and white else get back in your box clown. giving yourself thumbs up is pretty desperate btw.[/p][/quote]Another ad hominem, and a delusional accusation. Tut tut. What precisely is your thought process while making all these logical fallacies- Are you aware you are making them at the time, or does it happen subconsciously? returnoftheleftie

7:00pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

solutions? nada as expected.
solutions? nada as expected. profondo asbo

7:09pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts.
the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts. profondo asbo

7:16pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

Why? You keep making constant logical fallacies, resorting to your made up strawmen to attack, and then ignoring everytime you have them pointed out to you, time and time again.

Solutions, explained in any relevant level of detail would take essay length answers, which, given your performance here, would probably be substituted for a strawman anyway. My main interest here is psychological, I'm genuinely interested to know if you are aware that your logic is fallacious before you type?
Why? You keep making constant logical fallacies, resorting to your made up strawmen to attack, and then ignoring everytime you have them pointed out to you, time and time again. Solutions, explained in any relevant level of detail would take essay length answers, which, given your performance here, would probably be substituted for a strawman anyway. My main interest here is psychological, I'm genuinely interested to know if you are aware that your logic is fallacious before you type? returnoftheleftie

7:19pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts.
Now see, this is like that time you accused me of being a long list of different posters in disguise, you don't have any evidence, it's irrelevant anyway, and also shows your paranoia.

Might want to look at a dictionary before throwing definitions too dearie, there are plenty available online, and you might learn more accurate terms!

Of course, looking at a list of logical fallacies might be a better use of your time.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts.[/p][/quote]Now see, this is like that time you accused me of being a long list of different posters in disguise, you don't have any evidence, it's irrelevant anyway, and also shows your paranoia. Might want to look at a dictionary before throwing definitions too dearie, there are plenty available online, and you might learn more accurate terms! Of course, looking at a list of logical fallacies might be a better use of your time. returnoftheleftie

7:22pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

ahahah. i think it's time to pipe down clown.
ahahah. i think it's time to pipe down clown. profondo asbo

7:25pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts.
Now see, this is like that time you accused me of being a long list of different posters in disguise, you don't have any evidence, it's irrelevant anyway, and also shows your paranoia.

Might want to look at a dictionary before throwing definitions too dearie, there are plenty available online, and you might learn more accurate terms!

Of course, looking at a list of logical fallacies might be a better use of your time.
if you can't be straight with us at least be straight with yourself. the thumbs up mysteriously stopped. hmmmm. guess they'll recommence now to try to cover your tracks....
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: the definition of delusional is someone who thumbs up their own posts.[/p][/quote]Now see, this is like that time you accused me of being a long list of different posters in disguise, you don't have any evidence, it's irrelevant anyway, and also shows your paranoia. Might want to look at a dictionary before throwing definitions too dearie, there are plenty available online, and you might learn more accurate terms! Of course, looking at a list of logical fallacies might be a better use of your time.[/p][/quote]if you can't be straight with us at least be straight with yourself. the thumbs up mysteriously stopped. hmmmm. guess they'll recommence now to try to cover your tracks.... profondo asbo

7:35pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ahahah. i think it's time to pipe down clown.
With you continuing to make and then ignore your own logical fallacies? I don't think it's time to pipe down!

Is this obsession/paranoia with popularity another attempt to deflect from a long line of having your logical fallacies pointed out, one wonders, or just stemming from some other psychological trauma?

When you have your fallacies pointed out, are you pointedly thinking "well, whoops, better ignore that", or is it more of a "lalalalala I CANT HEAR YOU MEAN LEFTIE!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: ahahah. i think it's time to pipe down clown.[/p][/quote]With you continuing to make and then ignore your own logical fallacies? I don't think it's time to pipe down! Is this obsession/paranoia with popularity another attempt to deflect from a long line of having your logical fallacies pointed out, one wonders, or just stemming from some other psychological trauma? When you have your fallacies pointed out, are you pointedly thinking "well, whoops, better ignore that", or is it more of a "lalalalala I CANT HEAR YOU MEAN LEFTIE! returnoftheleftie

7:39pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

your "fallacies" are in themselves fallacies but hey you need a smokescreen because you have nothing else.

oh on that note....solutions?
your "fallacies" are in themselves fallacies but hey you need a smokescreen because you have nothing else. oh on that note....solutions? profondo asbo

7:51pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
your "fallacies" are in themselves fallacies but hey you need a smokescreen because you have nothing else.

oh on that note....solutions?
Are you saying that when I pointed out above, you making multiple strawmen and ad hominems false/ fallacious, or are you saying that the whole concept logical fallacies are fallacies themselves?

Because one is backed by evidence (you know, all the strawmen and personal attacks you made above), and the other has been used as a standard in analysing debate since before Herodotus.

Did you miss this part of one of my posts?

"Solutions, explained in any relevant level of detail would take essay length answers, which, given your performance here, would probably be substituted for a strawman anyway. My main interest here is psychological, I'm genuinely interested to know if you are aware that your logic is fallacious before you type?"

Because I can understand, given you are ignoring the posts where I point out your logical fallacies, that you might miss other pertinent parts!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: your "fallacies" are in themselves fallacies but hey you need a smokescreen because you have nothing else. oh on that note....solutions?[/p][/quote]Are you saying that when I pointed out above, you making multiple strawmen and ad hominems false/ fallacious, or are you saying that the whole concept logical fallacies are fallacies themselves? Because one is backed by evidence (you know, all the strawmen and personal attacks you made above), and the other has been used as a standard in analysing debate since before Herodotus. Did you miss this part of one of my posts? "Solutions, explained in any relevant level of detail would take essay length answers, which, given your performance here, would probably be substituted for a strawman anyway. My main interest here is psychological, I'm genuinely interested to know if you are aware that your logic is fallacious before you type?" Because I can understand, given you are ignoring the posts where I point out your logical fallacies, that you might miss other pertinent parts! returnoftheleftie

7:55pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

abridged solutions?
abridged solutions? profondo asbo

8:11pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
abridged solutions?
Base policies on available evidence, national speed limit to 80, harsher punishment for people who key cars/don't clean up after their dogs and teaching logical fallacies to kids so they can avoid their use, leading to a better internet for the future.

Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: abridged solutions?[/p][/quote]Base policies on available evidence, national speed limit to 80, harsher punishment for people who key cars/don't clean up after their dogs and teaching logical fallacies to kids so they can avoid their use, leading to a better internet for the future. Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine! returnoftheleftie

8:17pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

and the economy?
and the economy? profondo asbo

8:23pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
and the economy?
Quid pro quo

Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: and the economy?[/p][/quote]Quid pro quo Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine! returnoftheleftie

8:28pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
and the economy?
Quid pro quo

Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine!
you've given nothing. what about the economy? why so shy....you're amongst friends here?
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: and the economy?[/p][/quote]Quid pro quo Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine![/p][/quote]you've given nothing. what about the economy? why so shy....you're amongst friends here? profondo asbo

8:46pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
returnoftheleftie wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
and the economy?
Quid pro quo

Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine!
you've given nothing. what about the economy? why so shy....you're amongst friends here?
You wanted abridged, making no requests for specific areas, and you got it.

And given that you were ignoring my questions before you asked for solutions, it was rather generous of me to do that in the first place, sweetums!

So. Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: and the economy?[/p][/quote]Quid pro quo Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine![/p][/quote]you've given nothing. what about the economy? why so shy....you're amongst friends here?[/p][/quote]You wanted abridged, making no requests for specific areas, and you got it. And given that you were ignoring my questions before you asked for solutions, it was rather generous of me to do that in the first place, sweetums! So. Now, would you care to let me know if you were aware you were making logical fallacies before you posted them (the strawmen in particular, ad hominems can be chalked up to frustration I guess)? A nice abridged yes or no is just fine! returnoftheleftie

9:07pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol...
why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol... profondo asbo

9:34pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

profondo asbo wrote:
why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol...
Brother can you spare a place to hide from the flak...lol.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol...[/p][/quote]Brother can you spare a place to hide from the flak...lol. Lastlaugh,,.

10:09pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

comrade can you spare a credible policy? nope thought not... lol
comrade can you spare a credible policy? nope thought not... lol profondo asbo

11:05pm Sun 15 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol...
Quid pro quo.

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: why so afraid..cat got your tongue? i'm sure your policies are robust and stand up to scrutiny lol...[/p][/quote]Quid pro quo. It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? returnoftheleftie

11:11pm Sun 15 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

or perhaps they don't stand up to scrutiny...? no that can't be true1 can ed balls give any guidance...nope thought not?
or perhaps they don't stand up to scrutiny...? no that can't be true1 can ed balls give any guidance...nope thought not? profondo asbo

12:37am Mon 16 Dec 13

Chris Flunk says...

My Britain wrote:
This country will in time belong to all the immigrants that come hear, with there so called imployers starting up company's over hear, they will employ there own, who will work for low wages, it's happing now, streets of polish shops, we will end up buying from them at a cheaper price, this is what we got to look forward to, while Cameron the silly fuc--r eat ice cream, and has his mug photo, taken at a funeral, there all the same labour, concervitive, all come out rich, and fu-k the country up!!!
I wish there were streets of polish shops! I've been trying to get some good quality bee's wax polish and I'm struggling. Can you advise where they are?
[quote][p][bold]My Britain[/bold] wrote: This country will in time belong to all the immigrants that come hear, with there so called imployers starting up company's over hear, they will employ there own, who will work for low wages, it's happing now, streets of polish shops, we will end up buying from them at a cheaper price, this is what we got to look forward to, while Cameron the silly fuc--r eat ice cream, and has his mug photo, taken at a funeral, there all the same labour, concervitive, all come out rich, and fu-k the country up!!![/p][/quote]I wish there were streets of polish shops! I've been trying to get some good quality bee's wax polish and I'm struggling. Can you advise where they are? Chris Flunk

8:09am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

profondo asbo wrote:
or perhaps they don't stand up to scrutiny...? no that can't be true1 can ed balls give any guidance...nope thought not?
Quid pro quo.

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?

You have avoided my questions 11 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you!
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: or perhaps they don't stand up to scrutiny...? no that can't be true1 can ed balls give any guidance...nope thought not?[/p][/quote]Quid pro quo. It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? You have avoided my questions 11 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you! returnoftheleftie

8:23am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

haha uncomfortable. that is the ground you occupy.

ok so let's say arbitarily i have a trillion quid of debt (i just plucked that number out of the air) and i borrow another trillion of debt (again for the pedant i plucked that number out of thin air). is it then a "fallacy" that i have 2 trillion in debt? or maybe more accurately from your standpoint the bigger "fallacy" is that i ever have to pay that debt off...

let's just say for argument's sake we double corporation tax to 40%. is it a fallacy that foreign companies would find it more expensive to do business here so it would be a less attractive proposition.

need i go on....! maybe you should try economics by janet and john...mind you that might be a bit advanced
haha uncomfortable. that is the ground you occupy. ok so let's say arbitarily i have a trillion quid of debt (i just plucked that number out of the air) and i borrow another trillion of debt (again for the pedant i plucked that number out of thin air). is it then a "fallacy" that i have 2 trillion in debt? or maybe more accurately from your standpoint the bigger "fallacy" is that i ever have to pay that debt off... let's just say for argument's sake we double corporation tax to 40%. is it a fallacy that foreign companies would find it more expensive to do business here so it would be a less attractive proposition. need i go on....! maybe you should try economics by janet and john...mind you that might be a bit advanced profondo asbo

8:46am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

is it a fallacy that we have had net immigration whilst running a lax immigration policy with a generous welfare state open to all and sundry?
is it a fallacy that we have had net immigration whilst running a lax immigration policy with a generous welfare state open to all and sundry? profondo asbo

8:47am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

where are your policies...or haven't you made them up yet?
where are your policies...or haven't you made them up yet? profondo asbo

8:55am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

Quid pro quo.

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?

You have avoided my questions 12 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you!
Quid pro quo. It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? You have avoided my questions 12 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you! returnoftheleftie

9:04am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

let me summarise this entire thread for you.

in future be very careful of being critical of others when you have zero idea how to fix the problem that you created in the first instance.
let me summarise this entire thread for you. in future be very careful of being critical of others when you have zero idea how to fix the problem that you created in the first instance. profondo asbo

9:13am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

Quid pro quo.

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?

You have avoided my questions 13 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you!
Quid pro quo. It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? You have avoided my questions 13 times now, must be pretty uncomfortable for you! returnoftheleftie

9:19am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

haha uncomfortable. that is the ground you occupy.

ok so let's say arbitarily i have a trillion quid of debt (i just plucked that number out of the air) and i borrow another trillion of debt (again for the pedant i plucked that number out of thin air). is it then a "fallacy" that i have 2 trillion in debt? or maybe more accurately from your standpoint the bigger "fallacy" is that i ever have to pay that debt off...

let's just say for argument's sake we double corporation tax to 40%. is it a fallacy that foreign companies would find it more expensive to do business here so and therefore would be a less attractive proposition?

is it a fallacy that we have had net immigration whilst running a lax immigration policy with a generous welfare state open to all and sundry?

need i go on....! maybe you should try economics by janet and john...mind you that might be a bit advanced for your pea sized brain.
haha uncomfortable. that is the ground you occupy. ok so let's say arbitarily i have a trillion quid of debt (i just plucked that number out of the air) and i borrow another trillion of debt (again for the pedant i plucked that number out of thin air). is it then a "fallacy" that i have 2 trillion in debt? or maybe more accurately from your standpoint the bigger "fallacy" is that i ever have to pay that debt off... let's just say for argument's sake we double corporation tax to 40%. is it a fallacy that foreign companies would find it more expensive to do business here so and therefore would be a less attractive proposition? is it a fallacy that we have had net immigration whilst running a lax immigration policy with a generous welfare state open to all and sundry? need i go on....! maybe you should try economics by janet and john...mind you that might be a bit advanced for your pea sized brain. profondo asbo

9:25am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

14 times now.

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
14 times now. It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? returnoftheleftie

9:28am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

i really have no idea what you are talking about.

but what is ironic is your wish for a straight yes or no when you, yourself, are pathologically incapable of giving one. you are a spineless coward. if you are a true representation of the left it's not surprising they're fooked lol.
i really have no idea what you are talking about. but what is ironic is your wish for a straight yes or no when you, yourself, are pathologically incapable of giving one. you are a spineless coward. if you are a true representation of the left it's not surprising they're fooked lol. profondo asbo

9:31am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

15 times now. Do you need someone to explain what a logical fallacy is?

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
15 times now. Do you need someone to explain what a logical fallacy is? It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? returnoftheleftie

9:33am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

second thoughts you're working for the right and you're trying to sabotage the left's chances? you're doing a great job btw
second thoughts you're working for the right and you're trying to sabotage the left's chances? you're doing a great job btw profondo asbo

9:37am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

returnoftheleftie wrote:
15 times now. Do you need someone to explain what a logical fallacy is?

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
yes but it's gonna need a better "man" (coward) than you. and i never follow your links so don't bother pasting.
[quote][p][bold]returnoftheleftie[/bold] wrote: 15 times now. Do you need someone to explain what a logical fallacy is? It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?[/p][/quote]yes but it's gonna need a better "man" (coward) than you. and i never follow your links so don't bother pasting. profondo asbo

9:51am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

16 times now. A search engine will help you find what you need to know, but pay particular attention to "strawman" and "ad hominem".

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
16 times now. A search engine will help you find what you need to know, but pay particular attention to "strawman" and "ad hominem". It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? returnoftheleftie

10:00am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

17 times now. Scared of educating yourself a little?

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?
17 times now. Scared of educating yourself a little? It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? returnoftheleftie

10:13am Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

there is zero point in me answering what ever tedious question you want answered as you will not answer my question(s) so a complete waste of everybody's time.

my key takeaways from this whole fiasco of a thread.

you have zero clue about anything political
you are still in denial about who caused this mess (here's a clue - it was your party, you voted them in and you voted for them again in 2010 lol)
you are a uniquely chippy individual
you have truth "issues"
you are unable to give straight answers
you thumbs up your own posts (is that another form of spin?)
you have wasted several hours of my time
there is zero point in me answering what ever tedious question you want answered as you will not answer my question(s) so a complete waste of everybody's time. my key takeaways from this whole fiasco of a thread. you have zero clue about anything political you are still in denial about who caused this mess (here's a clue - it was your party, you voted them in and you voted for them again in 2010 lol) you are a uniquely chippy individual you have truth "issues" you are unable to give straight answers you thumbs up your own posts (is that another form of spin?) you have wasted several hours of my time profondo asbo

10:28am Mon 16 Dec 13

returnoftheleftie says...

18 times now. You are aware of quid pro quo?

It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them?

A single answer would be far less of a waste of time than avoiding it for a 19th time.
18 times now. You are aware of quid pro quo? It's a simple yes or no answer- are you aware of your logical fallacies before you post them? A single answer would be far less of a waste of time than avoiding it for a 19th time. returnoftheleftie

2:22pm Mon 16 Dec 13

jayman says...

It could all be summarised quite nicely by the headline "buffoons dispense ice cream at ailing airport"
It could all be summarised quite nicely by the headline "buffoons dispense ice cream at ailing airport" jayman

9:03pm Mon 16 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

jayman wrote:
It could all be summarised quite nicely by the headline "buffoons dispense ice cream at ailing airport"
praise be for the gift of irony.
[quote][p][bold]jayman[/bold] wrote: It could all be summarised quite nicely by the headline "buffoons dispense ice cream at ailing airport"[/p][/quote]praise be for the gift of irony. profondo asbo

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