How do you ask a girl out? Boys are to be given dating tips in school

Echo: Victoria Overy Victoria Overy

DATING advice, money management and life skills are to be offered to boys from male teachers in a unique way of improving attainment at a school.

Chase High School is hoping to boost the self confidence of its young male pupils to help them improve their learning and eventually their results.

The male mentor scheme is being introduced by headteacher Victoria Overy for those boys who do not have a positive male role model in their lives.

Subjects will vary from how to save money, how to ask a girl out, how to treat women, how to approach a teacher if you have a problem, how to present yourself and shave, and what it means to be a good pupil and friend.

They will do golf lessons, football tournaments, and team building activities such as camping, survival skills and bowling.

The Lilian Baylis School in Lambeth had recently spoken about similar initiatives and subsequent improvements at an education training day.

Mrs Overy said “They and also Cornelius Vermuyden on Canvey have both seen real results so we’ve taken some of the ideas and are working with our male teachers and the male pupils to come up with our own scheme.

“It’s a way of supporting them differently. It often involves pupils on free school meals who may not have a male role model in their life. They feel their life could not be much different.

“The boys’ input has been vital and ideas range from subjects they want to talk about to activities they want to do.

“We want to improve their attitude to learning and school, to have them feel appreciated.

“I have a school full of really committed, passionate young men who the lads already look up to and it’s a gift. Now we are more overtly doing something more about that.”

The school plans to introduce the first sessions early next year.

Mrs Overy said: “Young men have a skewed view of what a relationship is like because of the easy access to pornography.

“Its about improving self esteem and helping them to grow up to be decent men.

“Just going to lessons will make no difference unless you look at the whole person rather just them as a student.”

Girls will work with female teachers on finance management and career aspirations.

The school was recently rated inadequate by Ofsted.

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8:09am Wed 18 Dec 13

ShipShape says...

Just don't do the 'Elephant Trick' lads.
Trouser pockets are for keeping your change in, they're not ears.
Just don't do the 'Elephant Trick' lads. Trouser pockets are for keeping your change in, they're not ears. ShipShape

9:20am Wed 18 Dec 13

ColonelSpiffSpaff says...

"get in the van" is my fave chat up line
"get in the van" is my fave chat up line ColonelSpiffSpaff

12:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking.

All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too.

Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me).

I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU....

Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right!
Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking. All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too. Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me). I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU.... Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right! Kim Gandy

12:06pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are.

The rest of you, my best wishes ;)
....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are. The rest of you, my best wishes ;) Kim Gandy

12:44pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Dingo says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are.

The rest of you, my best wishes ;)
You are deranged. I seriously believe that you need help.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: ....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are. The rest of you, my best wishes ;)[/p][/quote]You are deranged. I seriously believe that you need help. Dingo

12:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

GrumpyofLeigh says...

What about girls asking boys out? Isnt this the age of equality? Moreover, the article suggests boys "have a problem" whereas the girls are balanced and ready for the world. (probably the case, I know)
What about girls asking boys out? Isnt this the age of equality? Moreover, the article suggests boys "have a problem" whereas the girls are balanced and ready for the world. (probably the case, I know) GrumpyofLeigh

12:55pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ShipShape says...

Kim,

What chat up lines do you suggest the young rakes employ to secure the attentions of fair damsels?
Kim, What chat up lines do you suggest the young rakes employ to secure the attentions of fair damsels? ShipShape

12:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Test Tickle says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking.

All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too.

Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me).

I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU....

Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right!
Thumbs up from me Kim.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking. All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too. Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me). I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU.... Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right![/p][/quote]Thumbs up from me Kim. Test Tickle

5:00pm Wed 18 Dec 13

JackW19 says...

This all seems well and good, but what then are the school going to do for young gay men? I can assure you that it is hard enough to come to terms with your sexuality, let alone know how to approach other men, especially in a society that is on the surface tolerant, but truly rather intolerant to homosexuality?
This all seems well and good, but what then are the school going to do for young gay men? I can assure you that it is hard enough to come to terms with your sexuality, let alone know how to approach other men, especially in a society that is on the surface tolerant, but truly rather intolerant to homosexuality? JackW19

9:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

a quick check of this academic black hole's results would suggest overy's focus should be nose in books rather than dick in chicks.
a quick check of this academic black hole's results would suggest overy's focus should be nose in books rather than dick in chicks. profondo asbo

9:50pm Wed 18 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

jayman statman brother what's the free condom percentage for chase?
jayman statman brother what's the free condom percentage for chase? profondo asbo

9:52pm Wed 18 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are.

The rest of you, my best wishes ;)
yep thumbs down again gandage...
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: ....not that I bother to come back and read your comments. You are far too beneath me for that. You know who you are. The rest of you, my best wishes ;)[/p][/quote]yep thumbs down again gandage... profondo asbo

9:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

profondo asbo says...

presumably it would be completely outdated to suggest students' confidence should be built through academic success...
presumably it would be completely outdated to suggest students' confidence should be built through academic success... profondo asbo

10:16am Sat 21 Dec 13

RobertFS says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking. All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too. Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me). I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU.... Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right!
agreed and teach them how to speak english would be good.
remove the double negatives, 'was' when it should be 'were', learn how to pronounce 'th'.
stop watching 'eastenders' or ray winstone might help?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Good - but what really does want reintroducing is manners. Manners and respect go a long way and these days, kids don't get much of an example. And by far the worst examples are online particularly on social networking. All the worst dregs hang about on there - and a few of them on here too. Old fashioned manners and respect go a long, long way for me. I am always courteous and polite to people (except the morons on here who are rude to me). I expect the same in return. I am not alone in that. My kids are both well mannered and pleasant and I have been complimented on that. But that is because I brought them up to say "please" and "thankyou", open doors, give up seats, etc. These are simple things but the hickbillies on here are now going to show themselves up and PROVE ME RIGHT YET AGAIN AREN'T YOU.... Go on.. start thumbs downing. I LOVE being proved right![/p][/quote]agreed and teach them how to speak english would be good. remove the double negatives, 'was' when it should be 'were', learn how to pronounce 'th'. stop watching 'eastenders' or ray winstone might help? RobertFS

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