Hospital’s £40 fines are hitting disabled drivers

Echo: Hospital’s £40 fines are hitting disabled drivers Hospital’s £40 fines are hitting disabled drivers

A HOSPITAL is dishing out fines to disabled drivers to stop them blocking ambulances.

Basildon Hospital is getting tough with drivers and ordering its security staff to hand out the £40 fines in a bid to stop people parking badly and blocking ambulances.

Blue badge holders are allowed to park on single and double yellow lines on a public highway for up to three hours if it is deemed safe.

Disabled parking on private sites is up to the owner’s discretion.

A hospital spokeswoman said: “There has been an increase in the number of incidents where ambulances have been obstructed by vehicles being parked outside of marked parking spaces at Basildon Hospital.

“Our security team have been asked to enforce the parking restrictions to ensure patient safety.

Blue badge holders can park free of charge in any patient/visitor parking space.

“The parking restrictions do not allowany vehicle to park on double yellow or double red lines on the hospital site. Anyone who feels a parking ticket has been issued unfairly can contest it. The details of how to do this are included on the ticket.”

However, a hospital employee, who asked not to be named, said he felt uncomfortable dishing out the tickets.

The whistleblower said: “Car parking at the hospital is being made into a profit making business.

It is just wrong.

“Disabled people are getting confused because normally they are allowed to park on yellow lines.

“You see the poor patients hobbling out of hospital, sometimes after being treated for serious illnesses, then they get to their car and see they have a ticket. I understand if people are parked blocking an ambulance or fire exit, but many of these people are not.”

There are 2,300 parking spaces for patients, visitors and staff with 120 of these allocated for blue badge holders.

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12:43pm Thu 9 Jan 14

whataday says...

NHS is meant to be free at point of care. This should also include disabled parking. However they shouldn't park in ambulance bays/access roads and am sure they wouldn't if these were clearly marked
NHS is meant to be free at point of care. This should also include disabled parking. However they shouldn't park in ambulance bays/access roads and am sure they wouldn't if these were clearly marked whataday

12:44pm Thu 9 Jan 14

stopmoaning1 says...

“Disabled people are getting confused because normally they are allowed to park on yellow lines.

Yes they are, but ONLY if they do not cause an obstruction. Nothing confusing about that!
“Disabled people are getting confused because normally they are allowed to park on yellow lines. Yes they are, but ONLY if they do not cause an obstruction. Nothing confusing about that! stopmoaning1

12:49pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Howard Cháse says...

More spaces for blue badge holders in sensibly placed areas where they won't hinder ambulance access would seem to be the logical answer. Only 120 spaces in a hospital car park for them seems a touch counter intuitive.


It's all about the money......
More spaces for blue badge holders in sensibly placed areas where they won't hinder ambulance access would seem to be the logical answer. Only 120 spaces in a hospital car park for them seems a touch counter intuitive. It's all about the money...... Howard Cháse

1:11pm Thu 9 Jan 14

rayleigh123 says...

I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine.

What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away.
Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment.

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I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. . rayleigh123

1:17pm Thu 9 Jan 14

disgusted of essex says...

People should no have to pay to park their cars at hospitals. However, everybody needs to car their car responsibly and if you block ambulance bays you deserve a ticket.
People should no have to pay to park their cars at hospitals. However, everybody needs to car their car responsibly and if you block ambulance bays you deserve a ticket. disgusted of essex

1:33pm Thu 9 Jan 14

emcee says...

Howard Cháse wrote:
More spaces for blue badge holders in sensibly placed areas where they won't hinder ambulance access would seem to be the logical answer. Only 120 spaces in a hospital car park for them seems a touch counter intuitive.


It's all about the money......
The more Blue Badge areas the less money the hospital makes. Simple as that.
[quote][p][bold]Howard Cháse[/bold] wrote: More spaces for blue badge holders in sensibly placed areas where they won't hinder ambulance access would seem to be the logical answer. Only 120 spaces in a hospital car park for them seems a touch counter intuitive. It's all about the money......[/p][/quote]The more Blue Badge areas the less money the hospital makes. Simple as that. emcee

2:19pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Biker One says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .
You are correct:

Private landowners cannot issue 'fines' but hand out speculative invoices cleverly disguised as official council notices. The wording used by private companies is PCN (Parking Charge Notice) whereas the councils issue PCN's (Penalty Charge Notices) The private PCN's can only claim for actual losses, and in a disabled bay equals zero. Double yellow lines also have no meaning as they are not subject to a traffic management order otherwise used on public highways.
For more info go to : http://forums.pepipo
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Now after having said the above, I am all in favour of discourteous drivers being punished but do it properly and get the police to dish out some FPN's, job done!
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .[/p][/quote]You are correct: Private landowners cannot issue 'fines' but hand out speculative invoices cleverly disguised as official council notices. The wording used by private companies is PCN (Parking Charge Notice) whereas the councils issue PCN's (Penalty Charge Notices) The private PCN's can only claim for actual losses, and in a disabled bay equals zero. Double yellow lines also have no meaning as they are not subject to a traffic management order otherwise used on public highways. For more info go to : http://forums.pepipo o.com/index.php? . Now after having said the above, I am all in favour of discourteous drivers being punished but do it properly and get the police to dish out some FPN's, job done! Biker One

2:20pm Thu 9 Jan 14

emcee says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine.

What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away.
Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment.

.
Correct, sort of. These private "tickets" fall under contract law and are considered "speculative invoices". They do not, therefore, have to be paid. The "ticket" issuer can, indeed, make a claim through the courts but, because this falls under contract law they can only calim financial loss, which must be proven. So, basically, in reality, this means they can only claim the amount they have lost by a car taking up a fee paying parking space and, in most cases, is only £1 or £2 (whatever the cost of parking is). This is why court cases of this kind are few and far between as private parking companies and private car park owners know they have such a miniscule chance of being successful of winning their losses, let alone the amount asked for on the "invoice". So, ok, they may send all sorts of threatening letters but they can only send three or four before it becomes harassment.

In the case of these blue badge holders parking in places where they shouldn't, as the hospital can only take the issue to court under contract law, and as there has been no financial loss, there really is nowhere the hospital can go with this and those issued with a ticket could just ignore them.

If hazzardous parking is such a major issue at the hospital then hospital bosses need to ask themselves if there is adequate signage in place and adequate efforts are being made to deter parking in areas which may cause a such hazzards.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .[/p][/quote]Correct, sort of. These private "tickets" fall under contract law and are considered "speculative invoices". They do not, therefore, have to be paid. The "ticket" issuer can, indeed, make a claim through the courts but, because this falls under contract law they can only calim financial loss, which must be proven. So, basically, in reality, this means they can only claim the amount they have lost by a car taking up a fee paying parking space and, in most cases, is only £1 or £2 (whatever the cost of parking is). This is why court cases of this kind are few and far between as private parking companies and private car park owners know they have such a miniscule chance of being successful of winning their losses, let alone the amount asked for on the "invoice". So, ok, they may send all sorts of threatening letters but they can only send three or four before it becomes harassment. In the case of these blue badge holders parking in places where they shouldn't, as the hospital can only take the issue to court under contract law, and as there has been no financial loss, there really is nowhere the hospital can go with this and those issued with a ticket could just ignore them. If hazzardous parking is such a major issue at the hospital then hospital bosses need to ask themselves if there is adequate signage in place and adequate efforts are being made to deter parking in areas which may cause a such hazzards. emcee

2:24pm Thu 9 Jan 14

LastLaugh2 says...

Abled or Disabled, park where you should not, get a ticket, why not.
Abled or Disabled, park where you should not, get a ticket, why not. LastLaugh2

3:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

BodyBuilder says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine.

What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away.
Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment.

.
Your correct. Nothing would happen if you failed to pay this fine. Its just a civil matter. I get parking tickets all the time and don't pay them. Nothing happens apart from an odd threatening letter or two and then that's it. There turning this into a money making scheme. It's as simple as that. Just another example of rip of Britain.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .[/p][/quote]Your correct. Nothing would happen if you failed to pay this fine. Its just a civil matter. I get parking tickets all the time and don't pay them. Nothing happens apart from an odd threatening letter or two and then that's it. There turning this into a money making scheme. It's as simple as that. Just another example of rip of Britain. BodyBuilder

5:42pm Thu 9 Jan 14

gingerfox says...

It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital
It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital gingerfox

6:34pm Thu 9 Jan 14

runwellian says...

All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital.

Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair!

Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free!

Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death!

As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea!
All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital. Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair! Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free! Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death! As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea! runwellian

7:42pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park.

This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled.

Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied.

For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.
I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park. This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled. Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied. For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle. Kim Gandy

8:43pm Thu 9 Jan 14

BodyBuilder says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park.

This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled.

Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied.

For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.
I don't get this whole 'blue badge' thing anyway. You shouldn't be driving a car if your disabled full stop.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park. This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled. Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied. For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.[/p][/quote]I don't get this whole 'blue badge' thing anyway. You shouldn't be driving a car if your disabled full stop. BodyBuilder

8:49pm Thu 9 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

gingerfox wrote:
It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital
why is it free....? i mean why do blue badge holders get free parking, they are disabled in some way (although thats very debatable from some badge holders i see) not necessarily poor, means tested to see if they qualify for free parking maybe, lets face it many holders are driving new(or new-ish vehicles) and some high end motors too are they saying they can not afford £2 for a hours parking.
And if blocking emergency access then surely its better to tow them away, sometimes blue badge holders seem to park where they like near junctions which affects flow etc
[quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital[/p][/quote]why is it free....? i mean why do blue badge holders get free parking, they are disabled in some way (although thats very debatable from some badge holders i see) not necessarily poor, means tested to see if they qualify for free parking maybe, lets face it many holders are driving new(or new-ish vehicles) and some high end motors too are they saying they can not afford £2 for a hours parking. And if blocking emergency access then surely its better to tow them away, sometimes blue badge holders seem to park where they like near junctions which affects flow etc DogsMessInLeigh

5:24pm Fri 10 Jan 14

LastLaugh,,, says...

runwellian wrote:
All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital.

Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair!

Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free!

Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death!

As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea!
You can be sure, the way you gripe about other 'badge holders', there will those posters on here who would gripe about you having one too..
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital. Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair! Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free! Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death! As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea![/p][/quote]You can be sure, the way you gripe about other 'badge holders', there will those posters on here who would gripe about you having one too.. LastLaugh,,,

5:26pm Fri 10 Jan 14

LastLaugh,,, says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park.

This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled.

Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied.

For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.
Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park. This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled. Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied. For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.[/p][/quote]Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person. LastLaugh,,,

5:30pm Fri 10 Jan 14

LastLaugh,,, says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
gingerfox wrote:
It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital
why is it free....? i mean why do blue badge holders get free parking, they are disabled in some way (although thats very debatable from some badge holders i see) not necessarily poor, means tested to see if they qualify for free parking maybe, lets face it many holders are driving new(or new-ish vehicles) and some high end motors too are they saying they can not afford £2 for a hours parking.
And if blocking emergency access then surely its better to tow them away, sometimes blue badge holders seem to park where they like near junctions which affects flow etc
Oh the bitterness of envy!

You think a disabled person should be means tested to see if they should be allotted a BB?

If that was the case wouldn't you be one of the 'bitters' on here complaining that disabled poor people (benefit scroungers) also get free parking?
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerfox[/bold] wrote: It's good that there is free parking for blue badge holders. That's not the case at every hospital[/p][/quote]why is it free....? i mean why do blue badge holders get free parking, they are disabled in some way (although thats very debatable from some badge holders i see) not necessarily poor, means tested to see if they qualify for free parking maybe, lets face it many holders are driving new(or new-ish vehicles) and some high end motors too are they saying they can not afford £2 for a hours parking. And if blocking emergency access then surely its better to tow them away, sometimes blue badge holders seem to park where they like near junctions which affects flow etc[/p][/quote]Oh the bitterness of envy! You think a disabled person should be means tested to see if they should be allotted a BB? If that was the case wouldn't you be one of the 'bitters' on here complaining that disabled poor people (benefit scroungers) also get free parking? LastLaugh,,,

1:39pm Sat 11 Jan 14

LastLaugh2 says...

LastLaugh,,, wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park.

This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled.

Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied.

For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.
Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person.
Thats why they need to bring back those blue three wheeled electric, buggies back for this lot, with the added bonus of no speeding, not allowed motorways, cannot be abused by the able bodied, get two into one space, good all rounder.
[quote][p][bold]LastLaugh,,,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park. This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled. Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied. For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.[/p][/quote]Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person.[/p][/quote]Thats why they need to bring back those blue three wheeled electric, buggies back for this lot, with the added bonus of no speeding, not allowed motorways, cannot be abused by the able bodied, get two into one space, good all rounder. LastLaugh2

12:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

stopmoaning1 says...

LastLaugh,,, wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park.

This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled.

Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied.

For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.
Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person.
The law states that the disabled person has to be using the car (this can be as a passenger) However, when the car is parked, the disabled person must leave it. This stops 'carers' parking where they like and leaving the disabled person in the car while they 'nip to the shops'

Therefore, your scenario is illegal.
[quote][p][bold]LastLaugh,,,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I wish I had a pound for everyone I saw parking in a disabled bay, displaying the badge but jumping out of the car and sprinting across the car park. This whole blue badge issue needs putting under the spotlight and proper provisions made for those who truly are disabled. Nowadays, the "disabled" label can be applied to all sorts of people who are apparently able bodied. For the purposes of displaying a blue badge in a car park I would take that to be for someone who cannot walk far because of poor limb mobility, shortness of breath etc... not people who look and appear as fit as a fiddle.[/p][/quote]Did it ever occur to you that those you see walking away from a car (is disability only restricted to mobility?) are actually picking up or ferrying a disabled person.[/p][/quote]The law states that the disabled person has to be using the car (this can be as a passenger) However, when the car is parked, the disabled person must leave it. This stops 'carers' parking where they like and leaving the disabled person in the car while they 'nip to the shops' Therefore, your scenario is illegal. stopmoaning1

3:56pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Steve H says...

disgusted of essex wrote:
People should no have to pay to park their cars at hospitals. However, everybody needs to car their car responsibly and if you block ambulance bays you deserve a ticket.
I agree that hospital parking should be free.

I was led to believe a charge was brought in to stop Town Centre workers and Commuters parking at the hospital for free and then going off to work.

If I remember rightly the charge isn't that much either.

As for those fools that think it's OK to park in an Ambulance bay, you deserve a ticket and I can't see why a member of staff should feel uneasy about dishing them out.
[quote][p][bold]disgusted of essex[/bold] wrote: People should no have to pay to park their cars at hospitals. However, everybody needs to car their car responsibly and if you block ambulance bays you deserve a ticket.[/p][/quote]I agree that hospital parking should be free. I was led to believe a charge was brought in to stop Town Centre workers and Commuters parking at the hospital for free and then going off to work. If I remember rightly the charge isn't that much either. As for those fools that think it's OK to park in an Ambulance bay, you deserve a ticket and I can't see why a member of staff should feel uneasy about dishing them out. Steve H

4:45pm Tue 14 Jan 14

exBillericayDicky says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .
Correct, this is private land and these are speculative invoices, you do not need to pay it. Only councils and Police can fine you.

That is the legality, in reality and Morally, you shouldn't be blocking an ambulance area, it is inconsiderate and they'd be the first to complain if they were in a delayed ambulance because of a parked car.
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: I think that i am correct in saying that only the police and council can issue a fine. What these are invoices for parking violations only enforceable by a county court, in previous threads people have been advised to throw them away. Perhaps someone with better legal knowledge could comment. .[/p][/quote]Correct, this is private land and these are speculative invoices, you do not need to pay it. Only councils and Police can fine you. That is the legality, in reality and Morally, you shouldn't be blocking an ambulance area, it is inconsiderate and they'd be the first to complain if they were in a delayed ambulance because of a parked car. exBillericayDicky

4:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

exBillericayDicky says...

runwellian wrote:
All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital. Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair! Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free! Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death! As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea!
A disabled drivers badge doesn't mean you're not amblatory, there are many different health issues that can mean you are able to have one.

As for parking in Tesco, I trust you filed the "fine" in the round filing tray
[quote][p][bold]runwellian[/bold] wrote: All the hospitals I have attended and that is quite a few, charge fro disabled parking, Basildon Hospital does not and you can park in any space free as long as you display your badge, so more disabled spaces wouldn't make any difference. Sadly space is always limited so there can only be a limited number of bays in any hospital. Whilst I appreciate that genuinely disabled folk need support, I suggest you attend a boot sale, watch the disabled drivers scramble for disabled parking,then spend the day walking around the boot fair! Hospitals try their best and I always choose to attend Basildon hospital rather than the one just up the road from my home, because the disabled parking is free! Any idiot that parks in an ambulance restricted are should be clamped and fined. There are instances when a few minutes delay can make the difference between life and death! As for private land and tickets, I mislaid my blue badge and got fined £30 for parking in a disable bay at Tescos Pitsea![/p][/quote]A disabled drivers badge doesn't mean you're not amblatory, there are many different health issues that can mean you are able to have one. As for parking in Tesco, I trust you filed the "fine" in the round filing tray exBillericayDicky

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