£70,000...all that's needed to allow new Southend Airshow to go ahead

Echo: John Delaney John Delaney

THE organisers of Southend’s new airshow say they need to raise a final £70,000 or it will be cancelled.

The first ever Southend Airshow and Military Festival is hoped to take place on September 6 and 7 after a campaign by Save Southend Airshow, backed by the Echo.

Organisers have revealed they have raised £150,000 so far, but have to raise the rest by the end of March.

The regular summer airshow was scrapped last year when Southend Council withdrew its funding, but it is being revived for 2014 with the promise it will be bigger and better than ever.

John Delaney, who with fellow volunteer Tom Curtis has been the driving force behind bringing the event back, said: “This is such an important aspect of whether it will happen or not.

“If we don’t get the £70,000, then the airshow won’t happen.

“It’s make or break. This is our last push for funding.

We’ve done literally all we can and we’re proud of what we have achieved, but the clock has been ticking since we began.”

The airshow community interest company has already raised or has agreements in place for £150,000.

The search for sponsors continues, but so far includes Teddy Station, in Southend, which has supplied the Airshow Bear mascot, Goldwyns accountants, BTMK, Billericay IT, Candi Entertainment, the Skylark Hotel, Thames Towage, and Urban Design & Print.

Southend Airport is assisting with a number of services for free, or at cost as a supporter.

Mr Curtis said: “The 2012 budget for the airshow was in the region of £300,000.

Through our sponsors and efficiency savings we’ve cut down the amount needed dramatically.

“Our original intention was simply to raise awareness about the event that we loved and one that is so important to our town. The Southend Airshowwas a hallmark event for the town. It truly put Southend on the map and it can do once again.”

The sponsorship brochure is now available for companies who want to get involved and can be downloaded from www.southendairshow.co.uk For individuals to donate, an online sponsorship page would have to be set up with another organisation as the community interest company cannot use such a format.

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7:22am Thu 16 Jan 14

supermadmax says...

rail companies should donate it, great PR and they will make more than an extra 70k that weekend.
rail companies should donate it, great PR and they will make more than an extra 70k that weekend. supermadmax
  • Score: 29

9:58am Thu 16 Jan 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

What are they looking for handouts
What are they looking for handouts CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: -13

12:17pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc.

Or have you never been involved in organising anything?
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc. Or have you never been involved in organising anything? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 7

12:17pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Kim Gandy says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc.

Or have you never been involved in organising anything?
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc. Or have you never been involved in organising anything? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 9

12:40pm Thu 16 Jan 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

How about Wonga.com, they're loaded.
How about Wonga.com, they're loaded. You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: 12

1:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc.

Or have you never been involved in organising anything?
How about you kim, your good at organising ...rallies
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc. Or have you never been involved in organising anything?[/p][/quote]How about you kim, your good at organising ...rallies You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -3

1:06pm Thu 16 Jan 14

pembury53 says...

hike the parking charges for the day..... once the punters have spent 2 hours to go a mile trying to get there, they'll stump up, after complaining a bit.....
hike the parking charges for the day..... once the punters have spent 2 hours to go a mile trying to get there, they'll stump up, after complaining a bit..... pembury53
  • Score: -8

1:22pm Thu 16 Jan 14

solitairess says...

I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash?

For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us.
I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash? For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us. solitairess
  • Score: 2

3:20pm Thu 16 Jan 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

solitairess wrote:
I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash?

For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us.
So there we have it, amateurs attempting to attract big business to give, without even obtaining basic consultation in how to go about raising such funding, perhaps now people will realise the pitfalls of going it alone
[quote][p][bold]solitairess[/bold] wrote: I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash? For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us.[/p][/quote]So there we have it, amateurs attempting to attract big business to give, without even obtaining basic consultation in how to go about raising such funding, perhaps now people will realise the pitfalls of going it alone You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: 8

4:04pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc.

Or have you never been involved in organising anything?
I hear Gandy is good at organising campaigns, though Hate Campaigns
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc. Or have you never been involved in organising anything?[/p][/quote]I hear Gandy is good at organising campaigns, though Hate Campaigns Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 6

4:24pm Thu 16 Jan 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
still looking
[quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]still looking CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 6

4:26pm Thu 16 Jan 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
CHRISTMAS CAROL wrote:
What are they looking for handouts
Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc.

Or have you never been involved in organising anything?
Why dont you give them the money. You could take out a Wonga payday loan
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHRISTMAS CAROL[/bold] wrote: What are they looking for handouts[/p][/quote]Well it takes more than tuppence ha'penny to fire up aircraft, let alone organise sealing off the sea front, stalls, facilities etc. Or have you never been involved in organising anything?[/p][/quote]Why dont you give them the money. You could take out a Wonga payday loan CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 2

4:48pm Thu 16 Jan 14

John Bull 40 says...

Sounds like they are flying by the seat of their pants.
Sounds like they are flying by the seat of their pants. John Bull 40
  • Score: 11

5:35pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Born & bread says...

If so many people want the air show then why don't SBC open up a donation web page? Then we'll see how much it's wanted.
If so many people want the air show then why don't SBC open up a donation web page? Then we'll see how much it's wanted. Born & bread
  • Score: -1

11:32pm Thu 16 Jan 14

solitairess says...

You'dfeelbetterforkn
owingthat
wrote:
solitairess wrote:
I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash?

For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us.
So there we have it, amateurs attempting to attract big business to give, without even obtaining basic consultation in how to go about raising such funding, perhaps now people will realise the pitfalls of going it alone
Sorry, should have said not acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]You'dfeelbetterforkn owingthat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solitairess[/bold] wrote: I love Southend Air Festival and would have loved to see it brought back. My company is a multi-corporate connected with a very relevant industry. HO seriously looked at the sponsorship package and quickly put it in file 13. No tax benefits from our side due to their setup, as not a registered charity, only as a CIC. They don't have the necessary HMRC docs which is why they can't get a JustGiving or Virgin MoneyGiving account. This means no public donation collections from the public allowed through the excepted protected channels. Even if they do collect, what happens to publically collected money if the air show doesn't come off? Companies also don't like being told how much they are expected to give when cash is involved. Another big problem for us is, why are they asking for £192k plus total cash sponsorship, when here they are saying all that is needed is £70k cash? For us the financial transparency is not there, they don't have enough sponsors and the bar that previous Southend Air Festivals have set, is unlikely to be reached as to the amount of modern day aircraft that will be displaying. The risk of visitor expectations not being met is very high and not unacceptable for us.[/p][/quote]So there we have it, amateurs attempting to attract big business to give, without even obtaining basic consultation in how to go about raising such funding, perhaps now people will realise the pitfalls of going it alone[/p][/quote]Sorry, should have said not acceptable. solitairess
  • Score: 2

2:47am Fri 17 Jan 14

echoforum says...

Don't they realise that ,we don't want the airshow anymore.
It was dead in the water years ago.
Don't they realise that ,we don't want the airshow anymore. It was dead in the water years ago. echoforum
  • Score: 1

3:06am Fri 17 Jan 14

Save the Airshow says...

It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is.

Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish.

Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc.

Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE.

I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK

Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple......

In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI.

It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc...

I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible.....

We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.
It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is. Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish. Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc. Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE. I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple...... In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI. It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc... I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible..... We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us. Save the Airshow
  • Score: 7

8:01am Fri 17 Jan 14

A Soldiers Legacy says...

I would like to make one suggestion!! I take it the money you have left to raise will enable 2 full days of air show.
My suggestion is simple, your cost will be halved if you restart the airshow as a one day event and work back up to a two day event, perhaps start small and ask the organisation behind Armed Forces Day Southend, which was a big success last year and only put together in a very short space of time (less than two weeks). Ask them if you can put the air show on the Sunday of Armed Forces weekend.
If the CIC is a true group of the community, this should a brilliant option to start smaller and work with others in the community.
Lets hope Save Southend Airshow and the organisers behind Armed Forces Day Southend can work something out!!!
I would like to make one suggestion!! I take it the money you have left to raise will enable 2 full days of air show. My suggestion is simple, your cost will be halved if you restart the airshow as a one day event and work back up to a two day event, perhaps start small and ask the organisation behind Armed Forces Day Southend, which was a big success last year and only put together in a very short space of time (less than two weeks). Ask them if you can put the air show on the Sunday of Armed Forces weekend. If the CIC is a true group of the community, this should a brilliant option to start smaller and work with others in the community. Lets hope Save Southend Airshow and the organisers behind Armed Forces Day Southend can work something out!!! A Soldiers Legacy
  • Score: 7

8:04am Fri 17 Jan 14

A Soldiers Legacy says...

Wonder if the Echo can be a true community paper and bring two organisations together.
Wonder if the Echo can be a true community paper and bring two organisations together. A Soldiers Legacy
  • Score: 2

8:33am Fri 17 Jan 14

A Soldiers Legacy says...

One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years
One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years A Soldiers Legacy
  • Score: -3

10:43am Fri 17 Jan 14

w-jback says...

A Soldiers Legacy wrote:
One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years
I expect the cost difference between a 2 day event or a 1 day event is a lot less than 50%, so the saving is probably minimal, might just as well do a two day event to get maximum public attendance.
[quote][p][bold]A Soldiers Legacy[/bold] wrote: One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years[/p][/quote]I expect the cost difference between a 2 day event or a 1 day event is a lot less than 50%, so the saving is probably minimal, might just as well do a two day event to get maximum public attendance. w-jback
  • Score: 2

3:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

solitairess says...

Save the Airshow wrote:
It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is.

Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish.

Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc.

Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE.

I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK

Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple......

In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI.

It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc...

I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible.....

We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.
What an unprofessional reply and if you are attacking who I think you are, it is disgraceful. You have just lost any support you might have rescued.

We will now be confirming our sponsorship for a June event in Southend. Remember the letters SM, in a few weeks time it will become very clear who you lost due to your paranoia and the immature way you have acted. Unbelievable.
[quote][p][bold]Save the Airshow[/bold] wrote: It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is. Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish. Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc. Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE. I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple...... In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI. It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc... I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible..... We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.[/p][/quote]What an unprofessional reply and if you are attacking who I think you are, it is disgraceful. You have just lost any support you might have rescued. We will now be confirming our sponsorship for a June event in Southend. Remember the letters SM, in a few weeks time it will become very clear who you lost due to your paranoia and the immature way you have acted. Unbelievable. solitairess
  • Score: -9

4:06pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Mr Hammer says...

I think the Airshow volunteers (don't forget that important point) are doing a fine job - people have no idea of the hoops that need to be jumped through to make this kind of event a reality. I would consider making a donation myself and I am sure many others would too - just one point of concern, 2-3 weeks until a donation platform is established may be cutting it fine regarding the funding deadline. It needs to be set up ASAP. The beautiful Golden Apple Sabre should be there, so that is me sold! Good luck to the guys, I am sure it will happen, there is a will and there should be a way!!
I think the Airshow volunteers (don't forget that important point) are doing a fine job - people have no idea of the hoops that need to be jumped through to make this kind of event a reality. I would consider making a donation myself and I am sure many others would too - just one point of concern, 2-3 weeks until a donation platform is established may be cutting it fine regarding the funding deadline. It needs to be set up ASAP. The beautiful Golden Apple Sabre should be there, so that is me sold! Good luck to the guys, I am sure it will happen, there is a will and there should be a way!! Mr Hammer
  • Score: -1

6:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

w-jback wrote:
A Soldiers Legacy wrote:
One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years
I expect the cost difference between a 2 day event or a 1 day event is a lot less than 50%, so the saving is probably minimal, might just as well do a two day event to get maximum public attendance.
Zero day airshow, could mean a heck of a treat, for the under priviledged
[quote][p][bold]w-jback[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Soldiers Legacy[/bold] wrote: One day airshow instead of 2, could mean £35,000 only to raise and more community groups joining together and getting behind an Armed Forces I was so proud to serve for 18 years[/p][/quote]I expect the cost difference between a 2 day event or a 1 day event is a lot less than 50%, so the saving is probably minimal, might just as well do a two day event to get maximum public attendance.[/p][/quote]Zero day airshow, could mean a heck of a treat, for the under priviledged Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: -11

10:44pm Fri 17 Jan 14

ArmedForcesDaySouthend says...

Save the Airshow wrote:
It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is.

Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish.

Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc.

Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE.

I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK

Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple......

In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI.

It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc...

I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible.....

We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.
As always John, good luck with bringing the air show back and our numerous offers of help since the early stages last year, continue to be available if required, under the condition we spoke about at the Armed Forces Day Southend 2013 Sunday event.

Best regards, Karin Sheldon
[quote][p][bold]Save the Airshow[/bold] wrote: It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is. Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish. Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc. Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE. I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple...... In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI. It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc... I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible..... We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.[/p][/quote]As always John, good luck with bringing the air show back and our numerous offers of help since the early stages last year, continue to be available if required, under the condition we spoke about at the Armed Forces Day Southend 2013 Sunday event. Best regards, Karin Sheldon ArmedForcesDaySouthend
  • Score: 7

11:54am Thu 23 Jan 14

madmark50484 says...

solitairess wrote:
Save the Airshow wrote:
It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is.

Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish.

Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc.

Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE.

I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK

Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple......

In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI.

It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc...

I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible.....

We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.
What an unprofessional reply and if you are attacking who I think you are, it is disgraceful. You have just lost any support you might have rescued.

We will now be confirming our sponsorship for a June event in Southend. Remember the letters SM, in a few weeks time it will become very clear who you lost due to your paranoia and the immature way you have acted. Unbelievable.
Actually I think it was a professional reply and if anything has made yourself look like an idiot. as said why not come clean and say who you are or do you have something to hide ?
[quote][p][bold]solitairess[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Save the Airshow[/bold] wrote: It has been our policy not to comment on negative comments about our efforts over the last year unless we had to. Unfortunately someone who commented very negatively earlier on this thread and on most other threads re the Airshow suggesting they represent a large corporate entity etc has a hidden agenda & we are fully aware of who this person is. Normally as I say we would not make a comment, but this is an important time where the future of the Airshow is totally in the balance so we feel it essential to let people know this person has no desire to see the Airshow come back & is talking rubbish. Firstly the British government recently created a new business entity called a CIC (Community Interest Company) which is designed as a halfway house between a Ltd Company & a Charity SPECIFICALLY for community based activities so it is totally the correct vehicle for us to use as we are trying to bring back a community event to the town as a FREE event for people etc. Secondly a CIC is more regulated than a normal Ltd company with a full asset lock to our named charities that we have elected to support but without some of the red tape applied to charities. We are not a charity, we are a group of people trying to provide the community with a free event and all of the Airshow team are working for FREE. I cannot discuss in full at this point, but in the next 2-3 weeks we will be announcing an online donation platform for anyone who wishes to personally donate towards bringing back the airshow which is fully supported by one of the major charities in the UK Next point, the previous Airshow in 2012 cost just over £300k we have cost cut this figure via savings, sponsorship & deals to aprox £220K. With £150K secured already it leaves aprox £70K to raise. This is basic maths (£220K - £150K = £70K) so I am surprised the negative "corporate" poster struggles with something this simple...... In relation to aircraft planned to display at the event we have a fantastic line up of aircraft scheduled to appear from the best of the RAF plus Cold War Jets & going back through time to WW2 plus a special tribute to WWI. It is not by chance that the last remaining WWI aerodrome in the World is our partner which says a lot about our structured plans etc & we are very proud that the owner of Stow Maries Great War Aerodrome just 7 miles from Southend is part of our team & is heading up our WWI tribute etc... I have a simple suggestion to the negative poster & their family who is hell bent on pulling our efforts down by pretending to be what they are not. State who you really are & why you constantly try to attack us & see if you still remain credible..... We have under 10 weeks left to raise the final money needed, so please ignore rubbish posts by anti Airshow people & support the Save Southend Airshow team & our goal to bring back the best FREE event in Essex - Thank you to all our sponsors & everyone who has supported us.[/p][/quote]What an unprofessional reply and if you are attacking who I think you are, it is disgraceful. You have just lost any support you might have rescued. We will now be confirming our sponsorship for a June event in Southend. Remember the letters SM, in a few weeks time it will become very clear who you lost due to your paranoia and the immature way you have acted. Unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Actually I think it was a professional reply and if anything has made yourself look like an idiot. as said why not come clean and say who you are or do you have something to hide ? madmark50484
  • Score: -2

10:18am Wed 5 Feb 14

Letmetryagain says...

"......THE organisers of Southend’s new airshow say they need to raise a final £70,000 or it will be cancelled......"

How can you cancel something which doesn't yet exist ?

To pull the crowds in, you need more than the Red Arrows and BBMF.
You need the Vulcan,(assuming it's airworthy at the time) I wonder if the budget will run to that.
Of course if they coordinated an airshow with another, such as Manston (is that happening this year ?), that would significantly cut costs.
"......THE organisers of Southend’s new airshow say they need to raise a final £70,000 or it will be cancelled......" How can you cancel something which doesn't yet exist ? To pull the crowds in, you need more than the Red Arrows and BBMF. You need the Vulcan,(assuming it's airworthy at the time) I wonder if the budget will run to that. Of course if they coordinated an airshow with another, such as Manston (is that happening this year ?), that would significantly cut costs. Letmetryagain
  • Score: 2

10:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

Letmetryagain says...

Nope, just read. Manston cancelled this year :(
Nope, just read. Manston cancelled this year :( Letmetryagain
  • Score: 1

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