Victoria Gateway traffic lights change

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PHASING of traffic lights at a busy Southend junction will be changed this Sunday.

Civil engineers will reconfigure the signals of lights at the Victoria Gateway junction of Victoria Avenue and Queensway improve flow of traffic flowing west along Queensway.

The change, to provide a longer “green time”, is the first of a series of improvements to the gateway, which also include new tactile paving and more crossing space.

The work will take place in the morning.

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2:38pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Nelly99 says...

When will someone from SBC admit the whole farago of Vic Circus has been a monumental Fark Up and put the roundabout back? Pre- christmas it took 25 mins to go from Chichester Road to Victoria Avenue. A distance of 30 yards. Brilliant!
When will someone from SBC admit the whole farago of Vic Circus has been a monumental Fark Up and put the roundabout back? Pre- christmas it took 25 mins to go from Chichester Road to Victoria Avenue. A distance of 30 yards. Brilliant! Nelly99

2:38pm Wed 22 Jan 14

OldFairfaxian says...

Not before time. Let's hope it improves matters rather than the reverse!
Not before time. Let's hope it improves matters rather than the reverse! OldFairfaxian

2:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Public Inconvenience says...

Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque!
Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard?
Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque! Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard? Public Inconvenience

3:25pm Wed 22 Jan 14

w-jback says...

Change it so the pedestrian lights aren't red when the main lights are green coming out of Chichester Road / Queensway ! stupid! I thought the lights had sensors, why should they need messing with or are the sensors set wrong!

At least if they get it right it might change peoples mind about it being a monumental mess up but why were they wrong in the first place!
Change it so the pedestrian lights aren't red when the main lights are green coming out of Chichester Road / Queensway ! stupid! I thought the lights had sensors, why should they need messing with or are the sensors set wrong! At least if they get it right it might change peoples mind about it being a monumental mess up but why were they wrong in the first place! w-jback

3:49pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Lets hope its going to be more pedestrian/cyclist friendly and not a car centric re-hash.
Lets hope its going to be more pedestrian/cyclist friendly and not a car centric re-hash. Keptquiettillnow

4:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

DFMadvice says...

And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane.
And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane. DFMadvice

4:59pm Wed 22 Jan 14

the citizen says...

w-jback wrote:
Change it so the pedestrian lights aren't red when the main lights are green coming out of Chichester Road / Queensway ! stupid! I thought the lights had sensors, why should they need messing with or are the sensors set wrong!

At least if they get it right it might change peoples mind about it being a monumental mess up but why were they wrong in the first place!
This is right...but it's not just here. The pedestrian lights clash with the main lights at the Gateway, so when the pedestrians are crossing only 10 cars or so go through the green lights - and when the pedestrian lights are on green...the junction is back to red! Crazy!!
[quote][p][bold]w-jback[/bold] wrote: Change it so the pedestrian lights aren't red when the main lights are green coming out of Chichester Road / Queensway ! stupid! I thought the lights had sensors, why should they need messing with or are the sensors set wrong! At least if they get it right it might change peoples mind about it being a monumental mess up but why were they wrong in the first place![/p][/quote]This is right...but it's not just here. The pedestrian lights clash with the main lights at the Gateway, so when the pedestrians are crossing only 10 cars or so go through the green lights - and when the pedestrian lights are on green...the junction is back to red! Crazy!! the citizen

5:06pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Living the La Vida Legra says...

You bunch of moaners it's a change of light sequence
Not much going on in your lives then ?
You bunch of moaners it's a change of light sequence Not much going on in your lives then ? Living the La Vida Legra

5:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Been there got the T shirt says...

Public Inconvenience wrote:
Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque!
Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard?
Perhaps a nice grassed roundabout, with trees and flowering shrubs, lights not required.
[quote][p][bold]Public Inconvenience[/bold] wrote: Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque! Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard?[/p][/quote]Perhaps a nice grassed roundabout, with trees and flowering shrubs, lights not required. Been there got the T shirt

6:06pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Nebs says...

DFMadvice wrote:
And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane.
Yes. Many times I've been in the left lane to go straight ahead, looking to move off and then move to the outside lane ready to turn right into London Rd, only for someone in the middle lane to go straight ahead.
[quote][p][bold]DFMadvice[/bold] wrote: And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane.[/p][/quote]Yes. Many times I've been in the left lane to go straight ahead, looking to move off and then move to the outside lane ready to turn right into London Rd, only for someone in the middle lane to go straight ahead. Nebs

6:35pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jolllyboy says...

Still a place to avoid. Just wait till the knocked down area is a car park - then you will see a mess.
Still a place to avoid. Just wait till the knocked down area is a car park - then you will see a mess. jolllyboy

7:41pm Wed 22 Jan 14

abd123 says...

The whole traffic scheme is misconceived. Allowing pedestrians to cross a trunk dual carriageway A road and also buses etc to cross from the station to and from Chichester Road was mission impossible. It was never going to work. Thinking of putting a Tesco large store in the mix was unbelievable. It is so unpleasant having to drive through it. An improvement would be to make pedestrians go on the bridge through the Victoria Centre and make buses use the route they always did - the same as cars.
The whole traffic scheme is misconceived. Allowing pedestrians to cross a trunk dual carriageway A road and also buses etc to cross from the station to and from Chichester Road was mission impossible. It was never going to work. Thinking of putting a Tesco large store in the mix was unbelievable. It is so unpleasant having to drive through it. An improvement would be to make pedestrians go on the bridge through the Victoria Centre and make buses use the route they always did - the same as cars. abd123

9:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

oohlook says...

And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke.
And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke. oohlook

10:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

heartbeat says...

oohlook wrote:
And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke.
It has to be one of the worst designed pieces of road anywhere. For people coming from the east side of town who want to get to the sorting office it is necessary to wait at two sets of lights, go past the back of Sainsbury's, round the roundabout and double back to sit at more sets of lights. All that extra time wasted (a really effective way to attract businesses to the town, not) and pollution pumped into the atmosphere/fuel wasted for NO REASON.There was a perfectly good and much more attractive roundabout there before, cutting out all the extra sitting at lights and in congested traffic. Pathetic! Even more pathetic that no-one seems to acknowledge it in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]oohlook[/bold] wrote: And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke.[/p][/quote]It has to be one of the worst designed pieces of road anywhere. For people coming from the east side of town who want to get to the sorting office it is necessary to wait at two sets of lights, go past the back of Sainsbury's, round the roundabout and double back to sit at more sets of lights. All that extra time wasted (a really effective way to attract businesses to the town, not) and pollution pumped into the atmosphere/fuel wasted for NO REASON.There was a perfectly good and much more attractive roundabout there before, cutting out all the extra sitting at lights and in congested traffic. Pathetic! Even more pathetic that no-one seems to acknowledge it in my opinion. heartbeat

10:13pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jayman says...

simple... get a bloke to open and close the 'gate' to control traffic during peak times.
simple... get a bloke to open and close the 'gate' to control traffic during peak times. jayman

10:50pm Wed 22 Jan 14

beau_4076 says...

heartbeat wrote:
oohlook wrote:
And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke.
It has to be one of the worst designed pieces of road anywhere. For people coming from the east side of town who want to get to the sorting office it is necessary to wait at two sets of lights, go past the back of Sainsbury's, round the roundabout and double back to sit at more sets of lights. All that extra time wasted (a really effective way to attract businesses to the town, not) and pollution pumped into the atmosphere/fuel wasted for NO REASON.There was a perfectly good and much more attractive roundabout there before, cutting out all the extra sitting at lights and in congested traffic. Pathetic! Even more pathetic that no-one seems to acknowledge it in my opinion.
i agree, but heres an idea for you, park down milton street and cross the road to the post office, if theres no parking theres 3 roads off of milton street within 30 second walk from the post office accessible from sutton road, worst case park in co-op and its only a 3 minute walk
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oohlook[/bold] wrote: And who decided it was a good idea to only make the exit from the taxi/bus/station slip road (east bound) turn right and not give the straight ahead option? Some people ignore this and then risk hitting pedestrians on the crossing outside focus while the rest of us turn right and then have to find another route all the way back and around many sets of lights if we dare want to eventually go to sutton road or heaven forbid the sorting office! They forgot that rail staff and btp use the station carpark and that its not only buses that require an exit. how there hasnt been more accidents is a pure fluke.[/p][/quote]It has to be one of the worst designed pieces of road anywhere. For people coming from the east side of town who want to get to the sorting office it is necessary to wait at two sets of lights, go past the back of Sainsbury's, round the roundabout and double back to sit at more sets of lights. All that extra time wasted (a really effective way to attract businesses to the town, not) and pollution pumped into the atmosphere/fuel wasted for NO REASON.There was a perfectly good and much more attractive roundabout there before, cutting out all the extra sitting at lights and in congested traffic. Pathetic! Even more pathetic that no-one seems to acknowledge it in my opinion.[/p][/quote]i agree, but heres an idea for you, park down milton street and cross the road to the post office, if theres no parking theres 3 roads off of milton street within 30 second walk from the post office accessible from sutton road, worst case park in co-op and its only a 3 minute walk beau_4076

10:45am Thu 23 Jan 14

stopmoaning1 says...

Victoria Gateway traffic lights change

Yes I've seen them do that.

I've also seen the traffic lights change a Cuckoo Corner, and Elm Road, and there are some in London Road too. And get this, while I was on holiday in France, they had traffic lights that changed too, but they were slightly different from ours as they changed from red straight to green, completely missing the amber! How continental.
Victoria Gateway traffic lights change Yes I've seen them do that. I've also seen the traffic lights change a Cuckoo Corner, and Elm Road, and there are some in London Road too. And get this, while I was on holiday in France, they had traffic lights that changed too, but they were slightly different from ours as they changed from red straight to green, completely missing the amber! How continental. stopmoaning1

11:13am Thu 23 Jan 14

Greatscot1777 says...

Rebalancing the traffic light green phases will not solve the basic problem with the whole 'Patio from Hell' development that was clearly designed to meet the councils utopian dream that everyone would walk and use public transport. This has worked partially, they made it so difficult to use the town by car people go elsewhere to shop.

Southend has become 'Benefits (High) Street' - as it withers for lack of investment.

Those large ball shaped lumps on the Patio from Hell are there as a permanent reminder of the size of the 'ball' that was dropped when the council spent millions on this least attractive feature of the town that just serves to drive business away to out of town shopping centres and Lakeside.
Rebalancing the traffic light green phases will not solve the basic problem with the whole 'Patio from Hell' development that was clearly designed to meet the councils utopian dream that everyone would walk and use public transport. This has worked partially, they made it so difficult to use the town by car people go elsewhere to shop. Southend has become 'Benefits (High) Street' - as it withers for lack of investment. Those large ball shaped lumps on the Patio from Hell are there as a permanent reminder of the size of the 'ball' that was dropped when the council spent millions on this least attractive feature of the town that just serves to drive business away to out of town shopping centres and Lakeside. Greatscot1777

11:20am Thu 23 Jan 14

Cockle says...

Nebs wrote:
DFMadvice wrote:
And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane.
Yes. Many times I've been in the left lane to go straight ahead, looking to move off and then move to the outside lane ready to turn right into London Rd, only for someone in the middle lane to go straight ahead.
Doesn't look like that is ever going to happen.

A traffic island with a new traffic signal pole on it has appeared between the straight on (left-hand) lane and the two right turn lanes......
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DFMadvice[/bold] wrote: And re-mark the the centre westbound lane to show it is good for straight on as well as right. Two lanes can go straight over ( its a 2-lane exit) but the markings effectively only allow the left lane.[/p][/quote]Yes. Many times I've been in the left lane to go straight ahead, looking to move off and then move to the outside lane ready to turn right into London Rd, only for someone in the middle lane to go straight ahead.[/p][/quote]Doesn't look like that is ever going to happen. A traffic island with a new traffic signal pole on it has appeared between the straight on (left-hand) lane and the two right turn lanes...... Cockle

9:55pm Fri 24 Jan 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Public Inconvenience wrote:
Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque!
Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard?
Balls...............
....................
............concrete ones.
[quote][p][bold]Public Inconvenience[/bold] wrote: Ahh, the Victoria Gateway, so picturesque! Can you get this image on a "Wish You Were Here" postcard?[/p][/quote]Balls............... .................... ............concrete ones. DogsMessInLeigh

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