Essex Police's smart spy cameras plan to snare crooks

Echo: Essex Police's smart spy cameras plan to snare crooks Essex Police's smart spy cameras plan to snare crooks

CROOKS and dodgy drivers will be targeted by new cameras at Essex hotspots.

Essex Police is spending £375,000 over the next two years putting permanent automatic number plate recognition cameras on roads in the county.

The locations are being kept secret to stop those breaking the law avoiding certain roads.

The cameras can scan thousands of number plates every hour.

These readings are crosschecked with a database which flags up if a car is stolen, or has no insurance, tax or valid MoT. If so, an alert is raised.

Vans fitted out with the equipment have proven successful in catching criminals wanted for other offences.

The money could purchase as many as 25 permanent cameras, depending on support from Essex County Council.

The force is spending £125,000 in 2014/15 and £250,000 in 2015/16.

A police spokesman said: “Essex Police, in co-operation with Essex County Council, is seeking to improve part of the camera infrastructure.

“The current cameras provide data only and these improvements will provide an increased level of evidence and intelligence.”

 

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12:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Sagefields says...

Great. Keep making police redundant and replace them with cameras....
Great. Keep making police redundant and replace them with cameras.... Sagefields
  • Score: -7

1:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Jack222 says...

Given the previous comment - that would save my council tax so fine by me.

More to the point it enables to free time up for police to do more useful things and we get unlicensed cars off the roads and such like... It's win win situation.
Given the previous comment - that would save my council tax so fine by me. More to the point it enables to free time up for police to do more useful things and we get unlicensed cars off the roads and such like... It's win win situation. Jack222
  • Score: 14

1:21pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Nebs says...

Looks like Essex will be the pilot for road pricing.
Looks like Essex will be the pilot for road pricing. Nebs
  • Score: 4

1:44pm Mon 3 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

Some trouble hotspots already have them, Canvey for one...
Some trouble hotspots already have them, Canvey for one... You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -2

1:55pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Mind your own business says...

If you don't like this idea then you are a criminal.
If you don't like this idea then you are a criminal. Mind your own business
  • Score: -7

3:18pm Mon 3 Feb 14

FamouSam says...

Sagefields wrote:
Great. Keep making police redundant and replace them with cameras....
Do you use a kettle or do you have a maid heating water over an open fire?

Assuming you have a kettle doesn't that allow the water to be heated more efficiently and the maid to add more to society other than just sitting around waiting for you to get thirsty?

Oh and it probably saves you money in wages and the maid now probably earns more working elsewhere or perhaps she's learned some new skills and improved her life.
[quote][p][bold]Sagefields[/bold] wrote: Great. Keep making police redundant and replace them with cameras....[/p][/quote]Do you use a kettle or do you have a maid heating water over an open fire? Assuming you have a kettle doesn't that allow the water to be heated more efficiently and the maid to add more to society other than just sitting around waiting for you to get thirsty? Oh and it probably saves you money in wages and the maid now probably earns more working elsewhere or perhaps she's learned some new skills and improved her life. FamouSam
  • Score: -6

5:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

All_talk_no_action says...

Nebs wrote:
Looks like Essex will be the pilot for road pricing.
Road TAX?
[quote][p][bold]Nebs[/bold] wrote: Looks like Essex will be the pilot for road pricing.[/p][/quote]Road TAX? All_talk_no_action
  • Score: -1

6:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

the25man says...

Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there
Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there the25man
  • Score: 1

7:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

joe2345 says...

the25man wrote:
Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there
I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars.

I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate.

Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long.

Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past.
[quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there[/p][/quote]I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars. I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate. Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long. Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past. joe2345
  • Score: 6

8:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

FamouSam says...

joe2345 wrote:
the25man wrote:
Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there
I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars.

I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate.

Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long.

Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past.
Good idea. Let's ignore technology and bring back foot patrols. That should stop the boy racers. Or if we get them really fast horses they should be able to almost keep up with bicycles. And I hope they get those little bags that catch the poop, although that may be a bit too modern for most of us.

And I'm sure everyone concerned about location tracking doesn't use a mobile phone. Oh hang on, that sort of tracking is ok because it's er different.
[quote][p][bold]joe2345[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there[/p][/quote]I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars. I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate. Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long. Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past.[/p][/quote]Good idea. Let's ignore technology and bring back foot patrols. That should stop the boy racers. Or if we get them really fast horses they should be able to almost keep up with bicycles. And I hope they get those little bags that catch the poop, although that may be a bit too modern for most of us. And I'm sure everyone concerned about location tracking doesn't use a mobile phone. Oh hang on, that sort of tracking is ok because it's er different. FamouSam
  • Score: -2

1:23am Tue 4 Feb 14

Lance Mead says...

FamouSam wrote:
joe2345 wrote:
the25man wrote:
Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there
I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars.

I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate.

Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long.

Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past.
Good idea. Let's ignore technology and bring back foot patrols. That should stop the boy racers. Or if we get them really fast horses they should be able to almost keep up with bicycles. And I hope they get those little bags that catch the poop, although that may be a bit too modern for most of us.

And I'm sure everyone concerned about location tracking doesn't use a mobile phone. Oh hang on, that sort of tracking is ok because it's er different.
And it will take all of ten mins for the criminals to coat the number plates in pearlecent or reflctive gloss jeez ... How about they spend the money on something worthwile instead of attacking the motorist
[quote][p][bold]FamouSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joe2345[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: Just watch your number plates being cloned. If you have a cloned plate the camera won't do much good but the police mans nose certainly would so get more coppers out there[/p][/quote]I have to agree. I'd rather have the money spent on patrol cars. I've see people going down canvey way (which has APNR average speed cameras) with no number plates sometimes, a camera can't do anything about that. There are many other ways the cameras can be fooled, and they also can't see that a car has the wrong plate. Also, once someone is caught out by one of these cameras, how long will it remain secret? Evidence in court, criminals telling each other and corrupt individuals involved mean they won't stay secret for long. Lets not forget also that when average speed cameras first came in we were told they would only be used for catching speeding, yet we later found out car location information was being stored for years of every car that passes regardless of whether they were speeding. It has been abused and used to tag and harass innocent people in the past.[/p][/quote]Good idea. Let's ignore technology and bring back foot patrols. That should stop the boy racers. Or if we get them really fast horses they should be able to almost keep up with bicycles. And I hope they get those little bags that catch the poop, although that may be a bit too modern for most of us. And I'm sure everyone concerned about location tracking doesn't use a mobile phone. Oh hang on, that sort of tracking is ok because it's er different.[/p][/quote]And it will take all of ten mins for the criminals to coat the number plates in pearlecent or reflctive gloss jeez ... How about they spend the money on something worthwile instead of attacking the motorist Lance Mead
  • Score: 3

2:37am Tue 4 Feb 14

Test Tickle says...

Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please.

Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked.

When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!!

Wake up people.
Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please. Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked. When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!! Wake up people. Test Tickle
  • Score: 10

2:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

Test Tickle wrote:
Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please. Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked. When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!! Wake up people.
you are absolutely correct..... this is way more than the odd dodgy mot or no insurance. If the establishment could get away with it everyone would be tagged and monitored 24/7 it should however surprise no one.... abuse of power and control freakery are systematic in just about all forms of government, 'democratic' or otherwise....
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please. Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked. When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!! Wake up people.[/p][/quote]you are absolutely correct..... this is way more than the odd dodgy mot or no insurance. If the establishment could get away with it everyone would be tagged and monitored 24/7 it should however surprise no one.... abuse of power and control freakery are systematic in just about all forms of government, 'democratic' or otherwise.... pembury53
  • Score: 5

7:06pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

Test Tickle wrote:
Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please.

Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked.

When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!!

Wake up people.
Britain the most surveilled country in the world?

If this surveillance is because of criminals.. does that mean the Uk is the country with the most criminals in the world?
[quote][p][bold]Test Tickle[/bold] wrote: Oh how I laughed when I read this story, ANPR cameras to snare ‘crooks’, do me a favour please. Stop and think about this for a moment, if someone turned up at your front door and slapped a tag on your ankle and said we are going to monitor your movements and store the collected data for two years just in case you commit a crime would you think to yourself well if I don’t do anything wrong I don’t have anything to worry about, well that is exactly the attitude they would like you to have, it’s just another chip away at the civil liberties block, and as for privacy we have very little of that left in this country, we are constantly watched, monitored and checked. When you pass through one of these ANPR cameras your details are stored for two years whether your vehicle is legitimate or not building up a picture of your movements when out on the roads, why? Why do they need to store legitimate vehicle details on their databases? Why do they need to know where you have been if you have done nothing wrong? With the very small percentage or drivers that are actually breaking laws that could be detected by ANPR the cost of these cameras seems hard to justify especially when we are told Police forces need to make cuts and save money!! Wake up people.[/p][/quote]Britain the most surveilled country in the world? If this surveillance is because of criminals.. does that mean the Uk is the country with the most criminals in the world? ThisYear
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