Roads ‘terrifying’ now street lights are switched off

Echo: Roads ‘terrifying’ now street lights are switched off Roads ‘terrifying’ now street lights are switched off

STREET light switch offs across the Rochford district are a “recipe for disaster” according to concerned residents in the area.

Selected lights have been turned off across the district from midnight to 5am as Essex County Council looks to save money and energy.

The plan has been rolled out across the county after successful trials in Maldon and Uttlesford in 2007, which saved the county council £70,000 a year. It hit Rochford on January 26.

Lights remain on at key road junctions, town centres and accident cluster sites, with predominantly residential areas being plunged into darkness.

Linda Kendall, chairman of the Rayleigh Action Group, said: “It is a recipe for disaster.

“Lower Road in Hullbridge is really dangerous even with the lights on, but they have still turned them off.

“Rayleigh railway station car park is terrifying at the best of times, let alone to come off a train in the pitch black. Everyone is saying we should carry torches, which is a ludicrous situation.”

Chris Black, Liberal Democrat councillor for Downhall and Rawreth, said there were dangers concerning hitting a pothole in an unlit road. He said: “Residents are unhappy about it.

“The council has a plan of keeping lights on where there are traffic humps, but potholes are more dangerous when you cannot see them.

“I am not happy about it. The council should be going to LED lighting, like Southend, if it wants to save energy.”

The move has provoked a strong reaction on social media as well, with the Rayleigh Action Group’s Facebook page getting a lot of complaints.

Rochford resident Ben Bartlett said: “In the real world, people need the street lights to function throughout the night. Not everyone is tucked up in bed from midnight to 5am. The council needs to think of everyone, not just what suits it.”

The police have said it is too early to comment on whether the switch-off has resulted in any change in crime figures.

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12:06pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Ian P says...

Chris Black, Liberal Democrat councillor for Downhall and Rawreth, said : “I am not happy about it. The council should be going to LED lighting, like Southend, if it wants to save energy.” Unfortunately, while that is the best solution it is unlikely to happen because they have already spent £6.5mil on equipment to automate the switching of the lights. This is what happens when you give people responsibilities for the funding of something they clearly know nothing about.
Chris Black, Liberal Democrat councillor for Downhall and Rawreth, said : “I am not happy about it. The council should be going to LED lighting, like Southend, if it wants to save energy.” Unfortunately, while that is the best solution it is unlikely to happen because they have already spent £6.5mil on equipment to automate the switching of the lights. This is what happens when you give people responsibilities for the funding of something they clearly know nothing about. Ian P
  • Score: 29

12:32pm Fri 7 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense. RochfordRob
  • Score: -15

12:38pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tom from Southend says...

A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere.
A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere. Tom from Southend
  • Score: -15

12:47pm Fri 7 Feb 14

rayleigh123 says...

How is this in joined up thinking !!! The Rayleigh police station on thier large notice board have a campaign against burglaries

The campaign - burglars LOVE THE DARK- make sure you leave a light on at night !!!!!
How is this in joined up thinking !!! The Rayleigh police station on thier large notice board have a campaign against burglaries The campaign - burglars LOVE THE DARK- make sure you leave a light on at night !!!!! rayleigh123
  • Score: 32

12:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Sagefields says...

Tom from Southend wrote:
A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere.
Hi mr rochford council man
[quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere.[/p][/quote]Hi mr rochford council man Sagefields
  • Score: -3

1:33pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Hock89 says...

Most parts of major roads dont have lighting on them and these have never been a problem...don't see what the problem is.
Most parts of major roads dont have lighting on them and these have never been a problem...don't see what the problem is. Hock89
  • Score: -8

1:33pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Dan_ says...

Ian P wrote:
Chris Black, Liberal Democrat councillor for Downhall and Rawreth, said : “I am not happy about it. The council should be going to LED lighting, like Southend, if it wants to save energy.” Unfortunately, while that is the best solution it is unlikely to happen because they have already spent £6.5mil on equipment to automate the switching of the lights. This is what happens when you give people responsibilities for the funding of something they clearly know nothing about.
That's the bit I think they should be asked to justify; Who signed that money off before there was any kind of consultation with the public AND the emergency services??
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: Chris Black, Liberal Democrat councillor for Downhall and Rawreth, said : “I am not happy about it. The council should be going to LED lighting, like Southend, if it wants to save energy.” Unfortunately, while that is the best solution it is unlikely to happen because they have already spent £6.5mil on equipment to automate the switching of the lights. This is what happens when you give people responsibilities for the funding of something they clearly know nothing about.[/p][/quote]That's the bit I think they should be asked to justify; Who signed that money off before there was any kind of consultation with the public AND the emergency services?? Dan_
  • Score: 27

1:44pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Tilly says...

RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday! Tilly
  • Score: 11

2:20pm Fri 7 Feb 14

You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat says...

I thinks great, reminds us all of how it used to be, especially if your out in town, and add some atmosphere, Arrrggghhh Wheee
I thinks great, reminds us all of how it used to be, especially if your out in town, and add some atmosphere, Arrrggghhh Wheee You'dfeelbetterforknowingthat
  • Score: -12

2:25pm Fri 7 Feb 14

QuestionTime says...

The switching off of the street lights is yet another service/amenity that has been withdrawn from our society. Due to the need to 'cut costs', Rayleigh no longer has a 24 hour manned police station, Southend Hospital has closed some of its wards, the highways are a mess with no money being spent on the many dangerous potholes, there's talk of closing the local refuse/recycling sites, and schools are closing, yet the public are being asked to pay more and receive less in return with no chance of the above services ever being reinstated......what
's going to cut next?....certainly not the elected councillor's wages!
The switching off of the street lights is yet another service/amenity that has been withdrawn from our society. Due to the need to 'cut costs', Rayleigh no longer has a 24 hour manned police station, Southend Hospital has closed some of its wards, the highways are a mess with no money being spent on the many dangerous potholes, there's talk of closing the local refuse/recycling sites, and schools are closing, yet the public are being asked to pay more and receive less in return with no chance of the above services ever being reinstated......what 's going to cut next?....certainly not the elected councillor's wages! QuestionTime
  • Score: 23

2:49pm Fri 7 Feb 14

The Macduffian says...

Tilly wrote:
RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
I really must laugh at some of the comments, cannot put car in garage because of no lights, l always thought cars were fitted with lights back and front, leave a house light on, or put a light in the garage, up here we have no lights on our A roads, villages have no lights, and as for crime we still go out and leave our doors open, are we burgled no, you have to lock your doors even when you are inside, come on just get a life, you must have something more pressing to moan about, might just add, with no lights you can really get brilliant views of the night sky so get a telescope and enjoy, as when summer comes you don't need lights at night anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Tilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday![/p][/quote]I really must laugh at some of the comments, cannot put car in garage because of no lights, l always thought cars were fitted with lights back and front, leave a house light on, or put a light in the garage, up here we have no lights on our A roads, villages have no lights, and as for crime we still go out and leave our doors open, are we burgled no, you have to lock your doors even when you are inside, come on just get a life, you must have something more pressing to moan about, might just add, with no lights you can really get brilliant views of the night sky so get a telescope and enjoy, as when summer comes you don't need lights at night anyway. The Macduffian
  • Score: -12

3:32pm Fri 7 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

The greater percentage of all house burglaries are done during the day - when they are empty.

People will call for a ban of daylight next.

Jeez, how do some people cope in life? Every street light went out at 11pm when I was a kid.

Tilly's old man should go on days if he's scared of the dark. Night shifts never bothered me.
The greater percentage of all house burglaries are done during the day - when they are empty. People will call for a ban of daylight next. Jeez, how do some people cope in life? Every street light went out at 11pm when I was a kid. Tilly's old man should go on days if he's scared of the dark. Night shifts never bothered me. RochfordRob
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Fri 7 Feb 14

the25man says...

LED lights cost less to run and last a very long time but cost the earth to buy so the best way to save money it to turn lights off when not needed. Midnight is a good time to do this as there are very few people around at that time. I turn off lights at home in rooms I'm not using as most people do. They don't leave times on in case I'm going into that room.
LED lights cost less to run and last a very long time but cost the earth to buy so the best way to save money it to turn lights off when not needed. Midnight is a good time to do this as there are very few people around at that time. I turn off lights at home in rooms I'm not using as most people do. They don't leave times on in case I'm going into that room. the25man
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Fri 7 Feb 14

exAkela says...

Tilly wrote:
RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
Hasn't he heard of headlights, presume he has them on when he pulls into the drive.
[quote][p][bold]Tilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday![/p][/quote]Hasn't he heard of headlights, presume he has them on when he pulls into the drive. exAkela
  • Score: 4

4:29pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
Are you out and about at that time...lurking?

If not how do you now its nonsense?
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]Are you out and about at that time...lurking? If not how do you now its nonsense? ThisYear
  • Score: 7

4:32pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

QuestionTime wrote:
The switching off of the street lights is yet another service/amenity that has been withdrawn from our society. Due to the need to 'cut costs', Rayleigh no longer has a 24 hour manned police station, Southend Hospital has closed some of its wards, the highways are a mess with no money being spent on the many dangerous potholes, there's talk of closing the local refuse/recycling sites, and schools are closing, yet the public are being asked to pay more and receive less in return with no chance of the above services ever being reinstated......what

's going to cut next?....certainly not the elected councillor's wages!
Yes but forgetting all that, just remember to vote in the GE wont you?
[quote][p][bold]QuestionTime[/bold] wrote: The switching off of the street lights is yet another service/amenity that has been withdrawn from our society. Due to the need to 'cut costs', Rayleigh no longer has a 24 hour manned police station, Southend Hospital has closed some of its wards, the highways are a mess with no money being spent on the many dangerous potholes, there's talk of closing the local refuse/recycling sites, and schools are closing, yet the public are being asked to pay more and receive less in return with no chance of the above services ever being reinstated......what 's going to cut next?....certainly not the elected councillor's wages![/p][/quote]Yes but forgetting all that, just remember to vote in the GE wont you? ThisYear
  • Score: 1

4:41pm Fri 7 Feb 14

runwellian says...

Tilly wrote:
RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
Why does he have difficulty parking his car in a garage after dark … the streets lights may be off but he still has head lights!

If they want the street lights on, charge them on the council tax, simple solution!
[quote][p][bold]Tilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday![/p][/quote]Why does he have difficulty parking his car in a garage after dark … the streets lights may be off but he still has head lights! If they want the street lights on, charge them on the council tax, simple solution! runwellian
  • Score: 1

6:18pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Kim Gandy says...

Where's my giro wrote:
I couldn't care less really. I don't even work. So I'm usually asleep between 12-5. It's a good thing for me actually, makes my room even darker of a night.
we couldn't care less about your comments...

Years ago it may well have been a good idea, when you could leave your doors unlocked and good neighbours would look out for each other.

But we are now living in an overcrowded country full of people who "couldn't care less" about others and even worse, violent crime is more prevalent now as there are even more despicable people around thanks to Labour's disastrous 13 years of soft soaping wrongdoers so bad that now they are it seems, celebrated. (See the programme on C4 about Benefits Street the other day, where some waster was applauded for telling kids to go on benefits)

During their reign of terror, Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" whilst their victims can actually be locked up for defending their own property.

This is not the 1950s any more.
[quote][p][bold]Where's my giro[/bold] wrote: I couldn't care less really. I don't even work. So I'm usually asleep between 12-5. It's a good thing for me actually, makes my room even darker of a night.[/p][/quote]we couldn't care less about your comments... Years ago it may well have been a good idea, when you could leave your doors unlocked and good neighbours would look out for each other. But we are now living in an overcrowded country full of people who "couldn't care less" about others and even worse, violent crime is more prevalent now as there are even more despicable people around thanks to Labour's disastrous 13 years of soft soaping wrongdoers so bad that now they are it seems, celebrated. (See the programme on C4 about Benefits Street the other day, where some waster was applauded for telling kids to go on benefits) During their reign of terror, Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" whilst their victims can actually be locked up for defending their own property. This is not the 1950s any more. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 17

6:51pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Nelly99 says...

Spot on Kim, well said.
Spot on Kim, well said. Nelly99
  • Score: 5

9:55pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Where's my giro wrote:
I couldn't care less really. I don't even work. So I'm usually asleep between 12-5. It's a good thing for me actually, makes my room even darker of a night.
we couldn't care less about your comments...

Years ago it may well have been a good idea, when you could leave your doors unlocked and good neighbours would look out for each other.

But we are now living in an overcrowded country full of people who "couldn't care less" about others and even worse, violent crime is more prevalent now as there are even more despicable people around thanks to Labour's disastrous 13 years of soft soaping wrongdoers so bad that now they are it seems, celebrated. (See the programme on C4 about Benefits Street the other day, where some waster was applauded for telling kids to go on benefits)

During their reign of terror, Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" whilst their victims can actually be locked up for defending their own property.

This is not the 1950s any more.
*we couldn't care less about your comments*

Do you speak for all of us Kim, or three-quarters of us or a half of us etc etc..

*violent crime is more prevalent *

Is it Kim? Any link to evidence thats the case..citation etc?

Is it not declared that its actually the opposite?

You think people on the programme you mention have only come to the country during 13 years of Labour government?

*Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" *

You feel criminals do not have the right to human right protection?

All criminals regardless of what their crimes are?

I brief glance at your post clearly show your contentions and claims do not stand on to the mildest scrutiny..and yet some readers thumb them up.. lol

Im not sure if that reflects on you rather than them...dear oh dear.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Where's my giro[/bold] wrote: I couldn't care less really. I don't even work. So I'm usually asleep between 12-5. It's a good thing for me actually, makes my room even darker of a night.[/p][/quote]we couldn't care less about your comments... Years ago it may well have been a good idea, when you could leave your doors unlocked and good neighbours would look out for each other. But we are now living in an overcrowded country full of people who "couldn't care less" about others and even worse, violent crime is more prevalent now as there are even more despicable people around thanks to Labour's disastrous 13 years of soft soaping wrongdoers so bad that now they are it seems, celebrated. (See the programme on C4 about Benefits Street the other day, where some waster was applauded for telling kids to go on benefits) During their reign of terror, Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" whilst their victims can actually be locked up for defending their own property. This is not the 1950s any more.[/p][/quote]*we couldn't care less about your comments* Do you speak for all of us Kim, or three-quarters of us or a half of us etc etc.. *violent crime is more prevalent * Is it Kim? Any link to evidence thats the case..citation etc? Is it not declared that its actually the opposite? You think people on the programme you mention have only come to the country during 13 years of Labour government? *Labour made it so that criminals have "human rights" * You feel criminals do not have the right to human right protection? All criminals regardless of what their crimes are? I brief glance at your post clearly show your contentions and claims do not stand on to the mildest scrutiny..and yet some readers thumb them up.. lol Im not sure if that reflects on you rather than them...dear oh dear. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

12:27pm Sat 8 Feb 14

_Lotus_ says...

Tom from Southend wrote:
A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere.
Don't be so bloody stupid, not everybody is out and about drinking after midnight, some of us are on shift work meaning we are either going to work before 5am or coming home after midnight.

I am not quite sure why this is so difficult a concept to grasp.

I repeat - NOT EVERYBODY OUT AND ABOUT BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 5AM ARE DRINKERS ON THE ****, SOME OF US ARE SHIFTWORKERS.
[quote][p][bold]Tom from Southend[/bold] wrote: A 'recipe for disaster'. Oh come on get real. No one is really out or if they are, they will mostly be in a car or walking back from the local pub. Its cost vs risk. Bike/car lights show the way and you can see vehicles coming too from their lights. Please roll this out everywhere.[/p][/quote]Don't be so bloody stupid, not everybody is out and about drinking after midnight, some of us are on shift work meaning we are either going to work before 5am or coming home after midnight. I am not quite sure why this is so difficult a concept to grasp. I repeat - NOT EVERYBODY OUT AND ABOUT BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 5AM ARE DRINKERS ON THE ****, SOME OF US ARE SHIFTWORKERS. _Lotus_
  • Score: 4

2:53pm Sat 8 Feb 14

woolstone says...

It actually feels that we are moving back to Victorian times nowdays. The majority of people living in the Rochford District have been against having the street lights turned off. There are many reasons why from potholes in the road to emergency vehicles responding to emergency calls trying to find address and door numbers. Shift works coming home in the dark walking back from Railway stations, there could be more crime only time will tell, if you stop and think there are many more reasons why we need street lighting at night. The councils has badly misjudged this decision but like everything else they will never admit they got it wrong, so at the next election I will use my vote to rid us of some of these incompetent councillors.
It actually feels that we are moving back to Victorian times nowdays. The majority of people living in the Rochford District have been against having the street lights turned off. There are many reasons why from potholes in the road to emergency vehicles responding to emergency calls trying to find address and door numbers. Shift works coming home in the dark walking back from Railway stations, there could be more crime only time will tell, if you stop and think there are many more reasons why we need street lighting at night. The councils has badly misjudged this decision but like everything else they will never admit they got it wrong, so at the next election I will use my vote to rid us of some of these incompetent councillors. woolstone
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Sat 8 Feb 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Its very disconcerting especially for people who work unsociable hours, I opened my front door last week and just black hit me ,burglars paradise. It's good to have them back this weekend though. Lights not burglars
Its very disconcerting especially for people who work unsociable hours, I opened my front door last week and just black hit me ,burglars paradise. It's good to have them back this weekend though. Lights not burglars CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 1

5:43pm Sat 8 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

Three wise monkeys questioned:

"*violent crime is more prevalent *"

Meanwhile, back in the real world, two men were stabbed during the early hours of this morning in Southend.

Google 'Southend, stabbing'

Maybe stabbing isn't serious (to some) hardly surprising since crime isn't crime, it's 'culture'. Apparently.
Three wise monkeys questioned: "*violent crime is more prevalent *" Meanwhile, back in the real world, two men were stabbed during the early hours of this morning in Southend. Google 'Southend, stabbing' Maybe stabbing isn't serious (to some) hardly surprising since crime isn't crime, it's 'culture'. Apparently. RochfordRob
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Sat 8 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

RochfordRob wrote:
Three wise monkeys questioned:

"*violent crime is more prevalent *"

Meanwhile, back in the real world, two men were stabbed during the early hours of this morning in Southend.

Google 'Southend, stabbing'

Maybe stabbing isn't serious (to some) hardly surprising since crime isn't crime, it's 'culture'. Apparently.
*"*violent crime is more prevalent *"*

If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one?

Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country?

You seem to be *Apparently*
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: Three wise monkeys questioned: "*violent crime is more prevalent *" Meanwhile, back in the real world, two men were stabbed during the early hours of this morning in Southend. Google 'Southend, stabbing' Maybe stabbing isn't serious (to some) hardly surprising since crime isn't crime, it's 'culture'. Apparently.[/p][/quote]*"*violent crime is more prevalent *"* If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one? Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country? You seem to be *Apparently* ThisYear
  • Score: -3

9:09am Sun 9 Feb 14

bazza 1 says...

Is it so difficult to grasp the fact that we now live in a 24/7 society. We have workers going to and coming home from, their place of employment at all hours. We have emergency services attending to emergencies at all hours. We have people coming home from nights out, at all hours. Most, if not all of these people, pay council tax, and should be able to expect a decent level of lighting to help them during the night. Not everyone is tucked up in bed at 10 o clock.Many many people now have to work night and late shifts, and cone home in the small hours. If you disagree with the switch off, remember it when the ECC elections come round, and vote off the imbeciles who condoned this money saving venture.
Is it so difficult to grasp the fact that we now live in a 24/7 society. We have workers going to and coming home from, their place of employment at all hours. We have emergency services attending to emergencies at all hours. We have people coming home from nights out, at all hours. Most, if not all of these people, pay council tax, and should be able to expect a decent level of lighting to help them during the night. Not everyone is tucked up in bed at 10 o clock.Many many people now have to work night and late shifts, and cone home in the small hours. If you disagree with the switch off, remember it when the ECC elections come round, and vote off the imbeciles who condoned this money saving venture. bazza 1
  • Score: 4

9:34am Sun 9 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

*"*violent crime is more prevalent *"*

If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one?

Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country?

She did write that, and YOU questioned it. Do try and read what I write, and then try and comprehend. Yes, I know, a big ask as far as you're concerned.

True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be, therefore statistically, 'they commit more crime than anyone else'

It's a bit like arithmetic so I can't expect you to grasp that.
*"*violent crime is more prevalent *"* If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one? Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country? She did write that, and YOU questioned it. Do try and read what I write, and then try and comprehend. Yes, I know, a big ask as far as you're concerned. True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be, therefore statistically, 'they commit more crime than anyone else' It's a bit like arithmetic so I can't expect you to grasp that. RochfordRob
  • Score: 1

2:48pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Cor Blimey says...

Oh what a load of olde sh1t!
Does the Echo know the meaning of the word 'Terrifying' ?
Oh what a load of olde sh1t! Does the Echo know the meaning of the word 'Terrifying' ? Cor Blimey
  • Score: 1

3:01pm Sun 9 Feb 14

RochfordRob says...

Cor Blimey wrote:
Oh what a load of olde sh1t!
Does the Echo know the meaning of the word 'Terrifying' ?
No, nor the meaning of the word 'hyperbole'
[quote][p][bold]Cor Blimey[/bold] wrote: Oh what a load of olde sh1t! Does the Echo know the meaning of the word 'Terrifying' ?[/p][/quote]No, nor the meaning of the word 'hyperbole' RochfordRob
  • Score: -1

4:40pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Lesley says...

I love the fact that I can now see the stars.
I love the fact that I can now see the stars. Lesley
  • Score: 6

5:56pm Sun 9 Feb 14

stopmoaning1 says...

Tilly wrote:
RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
Whilst there are arguments for and against,but I have to say the comment
" My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark," really is the most ridiculous for either side!
[quote][p][bold]Tilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday![/p][/quote]Whilst there are arguments for and against,but I have to say the comment " My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark," really is the most ridiculous for either side! stopmoaning1
  • Score: 5

8:04pm Sun 9 Feb 14

ThisYear says...

RochfordRob wrote:
*"*violent crime is more prevalent *"*

If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one?

Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country?

She did write that, and YOU questioned it. Do try and read what I write, and then try and comprehend. Yes, I know, a big ask as far as you're concerned.

True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be, therefore statistically, 'they commit more crime than anyone else'

It's a bit like arithmetic so I can't expect you to grasp that.
Then try to explain yourself rather than just quoting..you're a bit like those gibbering auctioneers, you know they are speaking english but cant understand what it is..I know you're writing english words but you dont seem to be writing them in the right context or order..

*True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be*

Can you link up what the crime perception for each community has been decided at with up to date stats?

If not isn't what you're saying just empty rhetoric?

The question was; If more crime is committed by the wider society, then who is likely to be committing more crimes and do you suggest that is cultural.

Again you feel threatened by being challenged on your racially angled comments...so much so you either pretend that you are some intellectual or I am a troll..LOL

You do realise that regardless of your faith in your education and intellect, that there are many others reading these threads that could consider you a simpleton compared to them..so why do you make a fool of yourself with your false pride..? Do you know? Is that all you have?

Do you feel a individuals challenge, argument, points, questions in regards to your comments should only be answered if that person is of the same standard of education as you?

Do you feel this is something that should be carried out right across society?

Your comments in regards to this really do label you..and the ironic thing is you are not intelligent enough to realise that! LOL
[quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: *"*violent crime is more prevalent *"* If you scroll back you will see Kim Gandy made that claim..you feel she has a multiple personality or even one? Considering more crime is committed in and by the wider society; are you suggesting its the culture of the country? She did write that, and YOU questioned it. Do try and read what I write, and then try and comprehend. Yes, I know, a big ask as far as you're concerned. True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be, therefore statistically, 'they commit more crime than anyone else' It's a bit like arithmetic so I can't expect you to grasp that.[/p][/quote]Then try to explain yourself rather than just quoting..you're a bit like those gibbering auctioneers, you know they are speaking english but cant understand what it is..I know you're writing english words but you dont seem to be writing them in the right context or order.. *True, crime is committed across the social spectrum, trouble is, some sections of society are far better represented proportionally than they should be* Can you link up what the crime perception for each community has been decided at with up to date stats? If not isn't what you're saying just empty rhetoric? The question was; If more crime is committed by the wider society, then who is likely to be committing more crimes and do you suggest that is cultural. Again you feel threatened by being challenged on your racially angled comments...so much so you either pretend that you are some intellectual or I am a troll..LOL You do realise that regardless of your faith in your education and intellect, that there are many others reading these threads that could consider you a simpleton compared to them..so why do you make a fool of yourself with your false pride..? Do you know? Is that all you have? Do you feel a individuals challenge, argument, points, questions in regards to your comments should only be answered if that person is of the same standard of education as you? Do you feel this is something that should be carried out right across society? Your comments in regards to this really do label you..and the ironic thing is you are not intelligent enough to realise that! LOL ThisYear
  • Score: -3

8:36am Mon 10 Feb 14

robb789 says...

Tilly wrote:
RochfordRob wrote:
The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about?

Bloody nonsense.
My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday!
Maybe the answer to this problem could be to fit a light inside the garage? I'm sure if you asked people living around the Somerset Levels about what they think about losing a couple of street lights for a few hours in the night their response would be pretty animated!!
[quote][p][bold]Tilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RochfordRob[/bold] wrote: The lights don't go off until midnight? Does anyone believe half these moaners are still AWAKE at that hour of the night, let alone out and about? Bloody nonsense.[/p][/quote]My husband work's while you are asleep, and now has to come home in the dark and is now unable to put his car in the garage because it is so dark, unlike you some people have to work though the night and don't have a job that is 9 to 5 Monday to Friday![/p][/quote]Maybe the answer to this problem could be to fit a light inside the garage? I'm sure if you asked people living around the Somerset Levels about what they think about losing a couple of street lights for a few hours in the night their response would be pretty animated!! robb789
  • Score: 5

9:37am Mon 10 Feb 14

rayleigh123 says...

To add to the confusion - the lights DID NOT GO OFF - Friday or Saturday or Sunday night. Is this a U turn by Rochford Council ?????????

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To add to the confusion - the lights DID NOT GO OFF - Friday or Saturday or Sunday night. Is this a U turn by Rochford Council ????????? . . . rayleigh123
  • Score: -1

7:53pm Mon 10 Feb 14

griff661 says...

I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion.
I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion. griff661
  • Score: 4

9:26am Tue 11 Feb 14

BillericayAdam says...

griff661 wrote:
I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion.
Ah yes, motorways. The safe haven for vandals, muggers and other scum of society.. ..
[quote][p][bold]griff661[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Ah yes, motorways. The safe haven for vandals, muggers and other scum of society.. .. BillericayAdam
  • Score: 0

9:45am Tue 11 Feb 14

rayleigh123 says...

griff661 wrote:
I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion.
Don't get many pedestrians walking along or crossing the road - on motorways


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[quote][p][bold]griff661[/bold] wrote: I don't get it. Most motorways have huge stretches of road without lights and all cars have headlights. This saves money which can be spent elsewhere. It is a good move in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Don't get many pedestrians walking along or crossing the road - on motorways . . rayleigh123
  • Score: 0

11:04am Tue 11 Feb 14

niki-loo says...

my husband works nights and bless him he didnt even realise the street lights were off because....shock horror......he had his headlights on. AND he even manages to get the car up out narrow steep driveway.

also why is it ludicrous to carry a torch? most phones have them built in anyway

bunch of bloody babies scared of the dark.
my husband works nights and bless him he didnt even realise the street lights were off because....shock horror......he had his headlights on. AND he even manages to get the car up out narrow steep driveway. also why is it ludicrous to carry a torch? most phones have them built in anyway bunch of bloody babies scared of the dark. niki-loo
  • Score: 8

11:06am Thu 13 Feb 14

onorris24 says...

I live in Leigh so I'm lucky the lights aren't going to be turned off, but I was driving home from Ray;eight after midnight and its safe to say it was quite scared, you cannot see anything, its dangerous I thought i was going to turn in to a road and crash in to a car, you can't see a thing!
I live in Leigh so I'm lucky the lights aren't going to be turned off, but I was driving home from Ray;eight after midnight and its safe to say it was quite scared, you cannot see anything, its dangerous I thought i was going to turn in to a road and crash in to a car, you can't see a thing! onorris24
  • Score: -1

5:20pm Thu 13 Feb 14

exBillericayDicky says...

Walking home from Rochford station last night around 11:30, didn't have a problem seeing where I was going, and i was nearly home before I realised there were no street lights, and an added bonus, I could see the stars.

Having walked home safely without the benefit of street lamps, I thought I'd see how bad the roads were to drive, and I can say I didn't struggle to see anything, Until I went through a junction that had lights on, then, my eyes - that had been acustomed to the dark had trouble in the relative brightness, they soon adjusted to the dark again. I cannot see what the issue is, no street lights work for me
Walking home from Rochford station last night around 11:30, didn't have a problem seeing where I was going, and i was nearly home before I realised there were no street lights, and an added bonus, I could see the stars. Having walked home safely without the benefit of street lamps, I thought I'd see how bad the roads were to drive, and I can say I didn't struggle to see anything, Until I went through a junction that had lights on, then, my eyes - that had been acustomed to the dark had trouble in the relative brightness, they soon adjusted to the dark again. I cannot see what the issue is, no street lights work for me exBillericayDicky
  • Score: 2

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