Village Green 2014: Acts and dates revealed

Leigh's Phill Jupitus buying the first ticket to Village Green 2014

Leigh's Phill Jupitus buying the first ticket to Village Green 2014

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DETAILS of this year's Village Green festival in Chalkwell Park have been revealed. 

Arts group Metal are holding a press briefing this morning where details of the 2014 event will be revealed.

Admission to this year's Village Green festival will not be free as in previous years, tickets will be sold from 9.30am today. 

Kids 0-10 will go free, teens 11-17 £5, adults £10.

25,000 people will be allowed into the site for the event on Saturday, July 12. 

Bands announced include: The Hosts, Dan le Sac v Scroobius Pip, Man like Me, The Slackers, Eddie Reader (of Fairground attraction), Youth Club, Goldmaster Allstars, Philadelphia Boys Choir.

The headline act has not been announced and Metal says "much of the programme is still in negotiation"

The event will run from 11am - 10pm. Last entry 8.30pm.

First 500 free for advantage card holders and there are early bird group discounts.

In a press release, Metal say: "Metal are delighted to announce that they will be hosting the well-loved arts and music festival, Village Green, for its 6th consecutive year in Chalkwell Park on Saturday 12 July 2014 from 11am until 10pm. 

"Alongside a fantastic line up of artists and musicians for 2014, we would like to announce a few key changes to the event this year, designed to enable a long term future for one of the most popular dates on Southend’s cultural calendar."

The group's press release states:

Tickets

The introduction of a nominal ticket charge will help to safeguard Village Green following several years of successive budget cuts to the arts – with more to come in the future.

Metal has provided free entry to this fantastic community event for a number of years.  We have given careful thought to the level of ticket prices.  Our main aim has been to maintain the diverse family audience who have supported Village Green over the years, whilst ensuring the viability of the ever-growing event.  We are delighted that all children of 10 and under will remain FREE and 11–17 year olds will pay just £5.  Adult tickets will be £10.  Group discounts are available as well as an exclusive offer of 500 free tickets for Category C Southend Advantage Card members on a first come, first served basis.

No profit will be made from Village Green. All the ticket prices represent a contribution to the running costs (rather than covering all costs completely).  The event remains heavily subsidised through the fund raising efforts of the team at Metal which is a UK registered arts charity.

Audience Numbers

Metal has put a number of new measures in place to ensure that audience numbers within the park remain at a comfortable level for festival-goers.  Extra areas within the park have been brought into Metal’s licenced areas, so 2014 will see a larger spread of fantastic programme across more of the park. This new event licence has been subject to rigorous checks from local agencies and authorities around the capacity of Chalkwell Park as the most suitable venue for the event.

Rapid Scan Ticket Entry

We have entered into a new partnership with the professional ticket agency, Skiddle, who will work with us to ensure a smooth and speedy entry system to Village Green on the day – leaving audience members to enjoy, uninterrupted, as much of the 10 hours of programmed art, music and culture as possible.  This service is covered by a £1 booking fee at the point of purchasing a ticket.

How to buy tickets

Tickets go on sale today (Tuesday 25 February) and are available online 24hours through www.metalculture.com  or by telephone from the Skiddle Ticket Sales hotline on 0844 844 2920 (open Mon-Fri 9am-6pm;  Sat 10am-5pm; Closed Sunday)

Southend Advantage Card Members (Category C) – FREE tickets can be collected from the Civic Centre in Victoria Avenue.  Proof of current and valid membership will be required.

 

Watch a video of last year's Village Green festival here: 

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9:26am Tue 25 Feb 14

TheaWells says...

Got my tickets :-)
Got my tickets :-) TheaWells
  • Score: -9

10:14am Tue 25 Feb 14

echoboy99999 says...

Mmmm. No profit? You're telling us it cost 1/4 million pound to run a one day festival? I think not. Unless that's Phil Stupidous's fee for opening it?
Mmmm. No profit? You're telling us it cost 1/4 million pound to run a one day festival? I think not. Unless that's Phil Stupidous's fee for opening it? echoboy99999
  • Score: -9

10:16am Tue 25 Feb 14

southendcivilservant says...

I'm so pleased this is coming back, and also pleased that they are charging this year. I understand that there was a voluntary £3 charge for people to pay via the internet or their phones, and that less than 1% of people actually bothered to pay it, so this is the best way of guaranteeing Metal some sort of income towards the considerable outlay.
Let's hope we get the same sort of weather as last year, it was a scorcher!
I'm so pleased this is coming back, and also pleased that they are charging this year. I understand that there was a voluntary £3 charge for people to pay via the internet or their phones, and that less than 1% of people actually bothered to pay it, so this is the best way of guaranteeing Metal some sort of income towards the considerable outlay. Let's hope we get the same sort of weather as last year, it was a scorcher! southendcivilservant
  • Score: -2

10:30am Tue 25 Feb 14

Ilkiecat says...

No reductions for the disabled? Shame, I can't afford to go at £10 a ticket.
No reductions for the disabled? Shame, I can't afford to go at £10 a ticket. Ilkiecat
  • Score: -13

11:06am Tue 25 Feb 14

silvertop says...

What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards.

if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it.

Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed!
What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards. if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it. Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed! silvertop
  • Score: 14

12:04pm Tue 25 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

10 quid seems perfectly reasonable, as long as there is no repeat of last years fiasco at the gates..... wrist bands were required to gain entry, which proved meaningless upon arrival......
10 quid seems perfectly reasonable, as long as there is no repeat of last years fiasco at the gates..... wrist bands were required to gain entry, which proved meaningless upon arrival...... pembury53
  • Score: -8

12:18pm Tue 25 Feb 14

CrippsCorner says...

Last year was my first visit to Village Green. I enjoyed it, mainly due to the weather, but there were no musical acts that interested me. Unfortunately for this reason I'm not prepared to pay for it... but it's still a very reasonable cost for those it does interest.

It's a shame actually because one of my favourite Essex festivals, High Definition has moved to Kent this year! It was a 1/3 price of most other music festivals... not much left around here!
Last year was my first visit to Village Green. I enjoyed it, mainly due to the weather, but there were no musical acts that interested me. Unfortunately for this reason I'm not prepared to pay for it... but it's still a very reasonable cost for those it does interest. It's a shame actually because one of my favourite Essex festivals, High Definition has moved to Kent this year! It was a 1/3 price of most other music festivals... not much left around here! CrippsCorner
  • Score: 4

12:36pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

£10 per adult....I'm Out.

The public made it a success it is...now we have to pay for it, but one thing....can you be charged to enter a 'free' public park..? not that i would but whats the score on that one, i have enjoyed it since it started, although too crowded at times which spoilt it plus a few knobheads around.
£10 per adult....I'm Out. The public made it a success it is...now we have to pay for it, but one thing....can you be charged to enter a 'free' public park..? not that i would but whats the score on that one, i have enjoyed it since it started, although too crowded at times which spoilt it plus a few knobheads around. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 7

12:37pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

....and wonder how many 'freebies' will be given out.
....and wonder how many 'freebies' will be given out. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: -5

12:47pm Tue 25 Feb 14

silvertop says...

Have you had a look how much concerts andentertainmentvals are these days??!

10 quid for about 10 hours worth of LIVE entertainment??!

Do you moan at going to the cimema and paying 10 quid to watch a 90 minute film??!

Why does everyone expect everything for free? I guess you expect to be paid at the end of your working week/month? Festivals cost a lot of money to put on. And it's not just on the day, there is months of work and prep that goes into it... all has to be paid for.

Hopefully a few less knobheads this year then.
Have you had a look how much concerts andentertainmentvals are these days??! 10 quid for about 10 hours worth of LIVE entertainment??! Do you moan at going to the cimema and paying 10 quid to watch a 90 minute film??! Why does everyone expect everything for free? I guess you expect to be paid at the end of your working week/month? Festivals cost a lot of money to put on. And it's not just on the day, there is months of work and prep that goes into it... all has to be paid for. Hopefully a few less knobheads this year then. silvertop
  • Score: 10

12:50pm Tue 25 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
£10 per adult....I'm Out. The public made it a success it is...now we have to pay for it, but one thing....can you be charged to enter a 'free' public park..? not that i would but whats the score on that one, i have enjoyed it since it started, although too crowded at times which spoilt it plus a few knobheads around.
i pondered the very same question last year when refused entry.... i got in anyway, but it's an interesting point since as far as i can tell there is no official announcement from SBC that the park is formally closed to the public on the day..... last year there was a cricket match going on which is obviously nothing to do with the festival so my guess is they have no legal right to refuse you entry.....
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: £10 per adult....I'm Out. The public made it a success it is...now we have to pay for it, but one thing....can you be charged to enter a 'free' public park..? not that i would but whats the score on that one, i have enjoyed it since it started, although too crowded at times which spoilt it plus a few knobheads around.[/p][/quote]i pondered the very same question last year when refused entry.... i got in anyway, but it's an interesting point since as far as i can tell there is no official announcement from SBC that the park is formally closed to the public on the day..... last year there was a cricket match going on which is obviously nothing to do with the festival so my guess is they have no legal right to refuse you entry..... pembury53
  • Score: 8

1:11pm Tue 25 Feb 14

southendcivilservant says...

I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc.
But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this.
Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!!
I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc. But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this. Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!! southendcivilservant
  • Score: 2

1:25pm Tue 25 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

southendcivilservant wrote:
I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc. But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this. Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!!
no problem with paying 10 quid personally, but the question was a point of interest..... last year there was 'security' on all gates into the park and refusing entry to people, yet there was a local league cricket match lasting most of the day which i imagine the public were perfectly entitled to enter the park to watch without any interest in the festival......
[quote][p][bold]southendcivilservant[/bold] wrote: I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc. But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this. Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!![/p][/quote]no problem with paying 10 quid personally, but the question was a point of interest..... last year there was 'security' on all gates into the park and refusing entry to people, yet there was a local league cricket match lasting most of the day which i imagine the public were perfectly entitled to enter the park to watch without any interest in the festival...... pembury53
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

silvertop wrote:
Have you had a look how much concerts andentertainmentvals are these days??!

10 quid for about 10 hours worth of LIVE entertainment??!

Do you moan at going to the cimema and paying 10 quid to watch a 90 minute film??!

Why does everyone expect everything for free? I guess you expect to be paid at the end of your working week/month? Festivals cost a lot of money to put on. And it's not just on the day, there is months of work and prep that goes into it... all has to be paid for.

Hopefully a few less knobheads this year then.
s'pose you is taking to me..?

Cinema is over priced for rock hard seats, i still go on cheapar$e tuesdays because my little one likes it, otherwise yes i would moan about it.

Maybe you have not been around these parts long but VG was free...and i might add its not all about music..its not exactly glastonbury, but if you like the art/craft/stalls/wor
k with local schools etc and the oddball side of it you will have to pay 10 knicker...!!!!
Charge the music lovers the £10 and leave the other half free as it was intended when it first started
[quote][p][bold]silvertop[/bold] wrote: Have you had a look how much concerts andentertainmentvals are these days??! 10 quid for about 10 hours worth of LIVE entertainment??! Do you moan at going to the cimema and paying 10 quid to watch a 90 minute film??! Why does everyone expect everything for free? I guess you expect to be paid at the end of your working week/month? Festivals cost a lot of money to put on. And it's not just on the day, there is months of work and prep that goes into it... all has to be paid for. Hopefully a few less knobheads this year then.[/p][/quote]s'pose you is taking to me..? Cinema is over priced for rock hard seats, i still go on cheapar$e tuesdays because my little one likes it, otherwise yes i would moan about it. Maybe you have not been around these parts long but VG was free...and i might add its not all about music..its not exactly glastonbury, but if you like the art/craft/stalls/wor k with local schools etc and the oddball side of it you will have to pay 10 knicker...!!!! Charge the music lovers the £10 and leave the other half free as it was intended when it first started DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 1

3:24pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Who_Flung_Dung says...

The thing that set this festival apart from others was that it was free. The bands werent particularly good last year - but you just had to drink more cider and not have a care in the world because it was free!!

Maybe an increase to a fiver per person then a tenner next year would have been a better idea.

Either way, i'm jumping over the fence again this year!!
(had tickets last year but had to wait on the gate to get in as they released too many tickets)
The thing that set this festival apart from others was that it was free. The bands werent particularly good last year - but you just had to drink more cider and not have a care in the world because it was free!! Maybe an increase to a fiver per person then a tenner next year would have been a better idea. Either way, i'm jumping over the fence again this year!! (had tickets last year but had to wait on the gate to get in as they released too many tickets) Who_Flung_Dung
  • Score: 3

3:26pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Joe Clark says...

Cinema £8ish for 90mins
Football £A lot fot 90mins

Village Green £10 for 10hours bargain.

it is by far the best cultural event in Southend so much happens such a wide range of entertainments, if you do one cultural event this year this is THE one.
Cinema £8ish for 90mins Football £A lot fot 90mins Village Green £10 for 10hours bargain. it is by far the best cultural event in Southend so much happens such a wide range of entertainments, if you do one cultural event this year this is THE one. Joe Clark
  • Score: 3

3:32pm Tue 25 Feb 14

silvertop says...

Its always the same. People alway moan when others try to organise something nice. Lets just cancel it altogether, that's a better option isn't it?

I've been every year to vg... having enjoyed them all for free It would be very mean spirited of me to withdraw support because they dared to charge a bleedin tenner! Always love the negative attitude of locals!
Its always the same. People alway moan when others try to organise something nice. Lets just cancel it altogether, that's a better option isn't it? I've been every year to vg... having enjoyed them all for free It would be very mean spirited of me to withdraw support because they dared to charge a bleedin tenner! Always love the negative attitude of locals! silvertop
  • Score: 7

3:55pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

silvertop wrote:
Its always the same. People alway moan when others try to organise something nice. Lets just cancel it altogether, that's a better option isn't it?

I've been every year to vg... having enjoyed them all for free It would be very mean spirited of me to withdraw support because they dared to charge a bleedin tenner! Always love the negative attitude of locals!
Oooo i say don't get your knickers in a twist,..i say £10 is too much for many people that don't go and listen to music they never heard before or got much interest in, if you sit around and listen to differant not so well known bands then i guess £10 is good, its an outlet for arts/culture nurturing too you know...so not all about the music, why should those have to pay £10 if they are'nt fussed about the bands, simple as that.
[quote][p][bold]silvertop[/bold] wrote: Its always the same. People alway moan when others try to organise something nice. Lets just cancel it altogether, that's a better option isn't it? I've been every year to vg... having enjoyed them all for free It would be very mean spirited of me to withdraw support because they dared to charge a bleedin tenner! Always love the negative attitude of locals![/p][/quote]Oooo i say don't get your knickers in a twist,..i say £10 is too much for many people that don't go and listen to music they never heard before or got much interest in, if you sit around and listen to differant not so well known bands then i guess £10 is good, its an outlet for arts/culture nurturing too you know...so not all about the music, why should those have to pay £10 if they are'nt fussed about the bands, simple as that. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 6

4:00pm Tue 25 Feb 14

silvertop says...

So putting bands on costs money, organising arts/culture events costs nothing to put on? Got it!
So putting bands on costs money, organising arts/culture events costs nothing to put on? Got it! silvertop
  • Score: 11

5:00pm Tue 25 Feb 14

heartbeat says...

silvertop wrote:
What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards.

if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it.

Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed!
But the difference is that from the line-up it doesn't look as though there are any bands on the bill that you can't see play for free in pubs. Pubs obviously do that by making their money through sales of drink and food. If there is a headline act added which plays a good long set and wouldn't normally play for free that might change things.
[quote][p][bold]silvertop[/bold] wrote: What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards. if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it. Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed![/p][/quote]But the difference is that from the line-up it doesn't look as though there are any bands on the bill that you can't see play for free in pubs. Pubs obviously do that by making their money through sales of drink and food. If there is a headline act added which plays a good long set and wouldn't normally play for free that might change things. heartbeat
  • Score: 9

5:35pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sybian Sue says...

heartbeat wrote:
silvertop wrote:
What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards.

if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it.

Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed!
But the difference is that from the line-up it doesn't look as though there are any bands on the bill that you can't see play for free in pubs. Pubs obviously do that by making their money through sales of drink and food. If there is a headline act added which plays a good long set and wouldn't normally play for free that might change things.
I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid . The hire of stage rigs, lighting, PA systems etc. costs money and it has to come from somewhere. I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past. I do wonder why 11 and twelve year olds are classed as teens though. I think I'd have drawn the line at proper teens (13 and above) but I wouldn't quibble about it.
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]silvertop[/bold] wrote: What can you get for a tenner these days? It's pocket money. And for a WHOLE DAY of entertainment??! You can't moan. Have you seen how much most 1 day festivals are? Anything from 80 quid upwards. if charging a nominal fee ensures we keep this brilliant little festival then I'm all for it. Good on you Metal! And still the headliner to be revealed![/p][/quote]But the difference is that from the line-up it doesn't look as though there are any bands on the bill that you can't see play for free in pubs. Pubs obviously do that by making their money through sales of drink and food. If there is a headline act added which plays a good long set and wouldn't normally play for free that might change things.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid . The hire of stage rigs, lighting, PA systems etc. costs money and it has to come from somewhere. I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past. I do wonder why 11 and twelve year olds are classed as teens though. I think I'd have drawn the line at proper teens (13 and above) but I wouldn't quibble about it. Sybian Sue
  • Score: -2

5:38pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sybian Sue says...

Sorry, that should have read

I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past.
Sorry, that should have read I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past. Sybian Sue
  • Score: -2

5:41pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sybian Sue says...

Sybian Sue wrote:
Sorry, that should have read

I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past.
Please delete heartbeat and insert silvertop. Duh.....
(I have an appointment with my psychiatrist tomorrow morning)
[quote][p][bold]Sybian Sue[/bold] wrote: Sorry, that should have read I agree with heartbeat, we should be very grateful that we've been able to enjoy it for free in the past.[/p][/quote]Please delete heartbeat and insert silvertop. Duh..... (I have an appointment with my psychiatrist tomorrow morning) Sybian Sue
  • Score: -5

5:55pm Tue 25 Feb 14

bignosechaff says...

But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year.
But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year. bignosechaff
  • Score: 13

7:05pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

bignosechaff wrote:
But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year.
Thats right....2 adults and 1 or 2 kids,or a whole family of leighites etc...£££££££
.
charge for the music section by all means...but leave the rest FREE, i spend maybe 2 hours going round maybe longer if i watch some display of something differant, £10(x 2, plus kids) to do that..? No thanks, Too big for its boots is springing to mind..if solely a music festival fair enough, but its not.
[quote][p][bold]bignosechaff[/bold] wrote: But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year.[/p][/quote]Thats right....2 adults and 1 or 2 kids,or a whole family of leighites etc...£££££££ . charge for the music section by all means...but leave the rest FREE, i spend maybe 2 hours going round maybe longer if i watch some display of something differant, £10(x 2, plus kids) to do that..? No thanks, Too big for its boots is springing to mind..if solely a music festival fair enough, but its not. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 14

7:07pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

... plus £1 booking fee.
... plus £1 booking fee. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 9

7:27pm Tue 25 Feb 14

heartbeat says...

DogsMessInLeigh wrote:
bignosechaff wrote:
But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year.
Thats right....2 adults and 1 or 2 kids,or a whole family of leighites etc...£££££££

.
charge for the music section by all means...but leave the rest FREE, i spend maybe 2 hours going round maybe longer if i watch some display of something differant, £10(x 2, plus kids) to do that..? No thanks, Too big for its boots is springing to mind..if solely a music festival fair enough, but its not.
Absolutely. Even if your kids are at college or uni but over 18 it still costs £10 a time, I've checked the website! So for a family of two adults and two over-18 kids who are still in education...£40 please!! That is not what I call a nominal amount. If you then have to add parking or dare I even think of it 4 x bus fares...no I'll stop there, breaking out into a cold sweat now! Even disabled people or pensioners are not given any kind of concession that I can see. It's a shame, I think events like that should be inclusive and be somewhere that the community can come together.
[quote][p][bold]DogsMessInLeigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bignosechaff[/bold] wrote: But its not a tenner is it? Two adults and say two teenagers, thats 30 quid. Then some food at 5 quid a head and a couple of drinks and an ice cream each! Thats about 80 quid. If they are going to charge for entry then they should get a better class of headliners. If people pay a tenner this year i'll bet it will be 15 quid next year.[/p][/quote]Thats right....2 adults and 1 or 2 kids,or a whole family of leighites etc...£££££££ . charge for the music section by all means...but leave the rest FREE, i spend maybe 2 hours going round maybe longer if i watch some display of something differant, £10(x 2, plus kids) to do that..? No thanks, Too big for its boots is springing to mind..if solely a music festival fair enough, but its not.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Even if your kids are at college or uni but over 18 it still costs £10 a time, I've checked the website! So for a family of two adults and two over-18 kids who are still in education...£40 please!! That is not what I call a nominal amount. If you then have to add parking or dare I even think of it 4 x bus fares...no I'll stop there, breaking out into a cold sweat now! Even disabled people or pensioners are not given any kind of concession that I can see. It's a shame, I think events like that should be inclusive and be somewhere that the community can come together. heartbeat
  • Score: 13

7:48pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

I even recall saying last year that i felt its getting a little commercial....now its tenner to get in looks like i hit the nail on the head back then....if only i knew this Saturdays Lottery numbers.
I even recall saying last year that i felt its getting a little commercial....now its tenner to get in looks like i hit the nail on the head back then....if only i knew this Saturdays Lottery numbers. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 8

9:02pm Tue 25 Feb 14

andy:) says...

pembury53 wrote:
southendcivilservant wrote:
I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc. But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this. Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!!
no problem with paying 10 quid personally, but the question was a point of interest..... last year there was 'security' on all gates into the park and refusing entry to people, yet there was a local league cricket match lasting most of the day which i imagine the public were perfectly entitled to enter the park to watch without any interest in the festival......
Yes..I found that a bit odd too....
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southendcivilservant[/bold] wrote: I imagine it will be similar to when the summer fair is in Chalkwell Park, you have to pay to enter a portion of the park. This helps with the cleaning costs etc. But seriously guys, £10 is more than reasonable - if you go to the website and book early as a large group, you can get it down to under £7 per person, and it's only £5 for teens, so it's amazing value. As someone else said, it's a few people who want something for nothing. Perhaps if more people had paid the voluntary amount last year, it might still have been viable as a free event in 2014, but as 99% of you decided to not bother, they've had to implement this. Fantastic value for an all-day event where you can take your own food and drink too - picnic boxes and garden chairs at the ready!![/p][/quote]no problem with paying 10 quid personally, but the question was a point of interest..... last year there was 'security' on all gates into the park and refusing entry to people, yet there was a local league cricket match lasting most of the day which i imagine the public were perfectly entitled to enter the park to watch without any interest in the festival......[/p][/quote]Yes..I found that a bit odd too.... andy:)
  • Score: 4

9:08pm Tue 25 Feb 14

andy:) says...

Ive been to all the previous events and its a pity that its all got a bit too big, it was great as a low key free festival, with no queues, I recall watching Billy Bragg, Phil with the blockheads and half of Carter USM, last year was where it starting getting a bit crazy although very enjoyable.

But having to buy tickets a long time in advance doesnt appeal to me as much, with the exception of the Allstars, no-one appeals to me and Ive seen them many times, normally for free.

I suspect we will shall soon start to see people trying to get in for free, increased security, high fences, rip off food and drink, lengthy queues for loos and all the other 'delights' of big festivals, oh why did you have to get so popular :) ?
Ive been to all the previous events and its a pity that its all got a bit too big, it was great as a low key free festival, with no queues, I recall watching Billy Bragg, Phil with the blockheads and half of Carter USM, last year was where it starting getting a bit crazy although very enjoyable. But having to buy tickets a long time in advance doesnt appeal to me as much, with the exception of the Allstars, no-one appeals to me and Ive seen them many times, normally for free. I suspect we will shall soon start to see people trying to get in for free, increased security, high fences, rip off food and drink, lengthy queues for loos and all the other 'delights' of big festivals, oh why did you have to get so popular :) ? andy:)
  • Score: 7

9:20pm Tue 25 Feb 14

southend-man says...

When we pay council tax to run these parks, it is unreasonable then to be charged to go in! Madness, utter madness. It is a public park - the public should not be charged to go into a public park.
When we pay council tax to run these parks, it is unreasonable then to be charged to go in! Madness, utter madness. It is a public park - the public should not be charged to go into a public park. southend-man
  • Score: 9

9:47pm Tue 25 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

well somethings not right...and the Echo know it, thats why they added a poll vote.
well somethings not right...and the Echo know it, thats why they added a poll vote. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 13

9:54pm Tue 25 Feb 14

lieutenant030 says...

I went to the first 4 Village Green events and thoroughly enjoyed each. With artists such as Billy Bragg doing his Big Busk and Phil Jupitus doing lead vocals with The Blockheads, we had a superb event on our doorstep.

I think Metal began to lose their way with last year's wristband debacle. I returned from a holiday in Cornwall at 3pm last year and failed to gain entry to what this year is being described as a " fantastic community event".

Ha! Ha Ha!

I live 3 roads away from Chalkwell Park (before any Chalkwell Estate toffs pipe up, I'm NORTH of the London Road (that's UP for those that don't do compasses).

What appealed to me in the first few years of the event was the ability to drop in and out of the park at ones leisure... take in the local craft stalls then go get fish and chips from Chalkwell Fish Bar, have a mooch round Les 'n' Gary's or even pop home for a wee as opposed to queueing up at some well used cubicle in the park!

As for the name "Village Green", the definition of such a place is "an open-air meeting place for the local people" so unless Metal wish to fall foul of the Trade Descriptions Act, I suggest they seriously re-think the title of the event!
I went to the first 4 Village Green events and thoroughly enjoyed each. With artists such as Billy Bragg doing his Big Busk and Phil Jupitus doing lead vocals with The Blockheads, we had a superb event on our doorstep. I think Metal began to lose their way with last year's wristband debacle. I returned from a holiday in Cornwall at 3pm last year and failed to gain entry to what this year is being described as a " fantastic community event". Ha! Ha Ha! I live 3 roads away from Chalkwell Park (before any Chalkwell Estate toffs pipe up, I'm NORTH of the London Road (that's UP for those that don't do compasses). What appealed to me in the first few years of the event was the ability to drop in and out of the park at ones leisure... take in the local craft stalls then go get fish and chips from Chalkwell Fish Bar, have a mooch round Les 'n' Gary's or even pop home for a wee as opposed to queueing up at some well used cubicle in the park! As for the name "Village Green", the definition of such a place is "an open-air meeting place for the local people" so unless Metal wish to fall foul of the Trade Descriptions Act, I suggest they seriously re-think the title of the event! lieutenant030
  • Score: 11

8:07am Wed 26 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

andy:) wrote:
Ive been to all the previous events and its a pity that its all got a bit too big, it was great as a low key free festival, with no queues, I recall watching Billy Bragg, Phil with the blockheads and half of Carter USM, last year was where it starting getting a bit crazy although very enjoyable. But having to buy tickets a long time in advance doesnt appeal to me as much, with the exception of the Allstars, no-one appeals to me and Ive seen them many times, normally for free. I suspect we will shall soon start to see people trying to get in for free, increased security, high fences, rip off food and drink, lengthy queues for loos and all the other 'delights' of big festivals, oh why did you have to get so popular :) ?
i reckon your right, but it's inevitable that such an event will become a victim of its own success, particularly in such a heavily populated area....
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: Ive been to all the previous events and its a pity that its all got a bit too big, it was great as a low key free festival, with no queues, I recall watching Billy Bragg, Phil with the blockheads and half of Carter USM, last year was where it starting getting a bit crazy although very enjoyable. But having to buy tickets a long time in advance doesnt appeal to me as much, with the exception of the Allstars, no-one appeals to me and Ive seen them many times, normally for free. I suspect we will shall soon start to see people trying to get in for free, increased security, high fences, rip off food and drink, lengthy queues for loos and all the other 'delights' of big festivals, oh why did you have to get so popular :) ?[/p][/quote]i reckon your right, but it's inevitable that such an event will become a victim of its own success, particularly in such a heavily populated area.... pembury53
  • Score: 1

11:33am Wed 26 Feb 14

CrippsCorner says...

Who_Flung_Dung wrote:
The thing that set this festival apart from others was that it was free. The bands werent particularly good last year - but you just had to drink more cider and not have a care in the world because it was free!!

Maybe an increase to a fiver per person then a tenner next year would have been a better idea.

Either way, i'm jumping over the fence again this year!!
(had tickets last year but had to wait on the gate to get in as they released too many tickets)
Yes I know plenty of people who just climbed over the railings... all of who had 'entry tickets' very strange indeed!
[quote][p][bold]Who_Flung_Dung[/bold] wrote: The thing that set this festival apart from others was that it was free. The bands werent particularly good last year - but you just had to drink more cider and not have a care in the world because it was free!! Maybe an increase to a fiver per person then a tenner next year would have been a better idea. Either way, i'm jumping over the fence again this year!! (had tickets last year but had to wait on the gate to get in as they released too many tickets)[/p][/quote]Yes I know plenty of people who just climbed over the railings... all of who had 'entry tickets' very strange indeed! CrippsCorner
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Wed 26 Feb 14

jo7ers says...

For all the moaning I'm sure people will vote with their feet and then Metal will know how the folks of Essex feel.
For all the moaning I'm sure people will vote with their feet and then Metal will know how the folks of Essex feel. jo7ers
  • Score: -1

5:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mariamia says...

the park is closed for ONE DAY out of 365..for many people (like me) Village Green might be the ONE DAY of the year they even go to the park - and they're Council Tax payers too so why are some local people being so mean spirited about the ONE DAY the park hosts 25,000 people..? It costs 2 adults with 2 children around the same to go to the cinema as it would to Village Green, the infrastructure costs a fortune to host a large scale event like this - you'd be amazed at all the costs involved. People happily spend £2.50 on a rubbish coffee in Starbucks, nearly a fiver for a pint of beer but wail that £10 for 12 hours of art music theatre is too much - how can the festival possibly stay free with arts funding cut so drastically. It's obvious that if they didn't charge this nominal fee there would no festival !! If you want a free ticket then howabout volunteer a few hours to help - a bit of community spirit would go a long way !!
the park is closed for ONE DAY out of 365..for many people (like me) Village Green might be the ONE DAY of the year they even go to the park - and they're Council Tax payers too so why are some local people being so mean spirited about the ONE DAY the park hosts 25,000 people..? It costs 2 adults with 2 children around the same to go to the cinema as it would to Village Green, the infrastructure costs a fortune to host a large scale event like this - you'd be amazed at all the costs involved. People happily spend £2.50 on a rubbish coffee in Starbucks, nearly a fiver for a pint of beer but wail that £10 for 12 hours of art music theatre is too much - how can the festival possibly stay free with arts funding cut so drastically. It's obvious that if they didn't charge this nominal fee there would no festival !! If you want a free ticket then howabout volunteer a few hours to help - a bit of community spirit would go a long way !! mariamia
  • Score: -8

6:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

mariamia wrote:
the park is closed for ONE DAY out of 365..for many people (like me) Village Green might be the ONE DAY of the year they even go to the park - and they're Council Tax payers too so why are some local people being so mean spirited about the ONE DAY the park hosts 25,000 people..? It costs 2 adults with 2 children around the same to go to the cinema as it would to Village Green, the infrastructure costs a fortune to host a large scale event like this - you'd be amazed at all the costs involved. People happily spend £2.50 on a rubbish coffee in Starbucks, nearly a fiver for a pint of beer but wail that £10 for 12 hours of art music theatre is too much - how can the festival possibly stay free with arts funding cut so drastically. It's obvious that if they didn't charge this nominal fee there would no festival !! If you want a free ticket then howabout volunteer a few hours to help - a bit of community spirit would go a long way !!
so you don't support our parks and open spaces only going once to this event..!!! you need to get out in the fresh air more, try Hadleigh country park its local or leigh marshes...enjoy.

why does everyone keep mentioning the cinema....come on there must be another example....what about the Errr...the Mmmm...the...urrrrr.
..

by the way ..Wetherspoons £2.10 a pint. and £6 to see a movie on Tuesdays.
Ta.
[quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: the park is closed for ONE DAY out of 365..for many people (like me) Village Green might be the ONE DAY of the year they even go to the park - and they're Council Tax payers too so why are some local people being so mean spirited about the ONE DAY the park hosts 25,000 people..? It costs 2 adults with 2 children around the same to go to the cinema as it would to Village Green, the infrastructure costs a fortune to host a large scale event like this - you'd be amazed at all the costs involved. People happily spend £2.50 on a rubbish coffee in Starbucks, nearly a fiver for a pint of beer but wail that £10 for 12 hours of art music theatre is too much - how can the festival possibly stay free with arts funding cut so drastically. It's obvious that if they didn't charge this nominal fee there would no festival !! If you want a free ticket then howabout volunteer a few hours to help - a bit of community spirit would go a long way !![/p][/quote]so you don't support our parks and open spaces only going once to this event..!!! you need to get out in the fresh air more, try Hadleigh country park its local or leigh marshes...enjoy. why does everyone keep mentioning the cinema....come on there must be another example....what about the Errr...the Mmmm...the...urrrrr. .. by the way ..Wetherspoons £2.10 a pint. and £6 to see a movie on Tuesdays. Ta. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 4

8:43pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mariamia says...

?? ah - yes I go to the beach, Leigh marshes and Hadleigh country park - I leave Chalkwell Park to the dog walkers - the point is, stop moaning about everything people ! the reason the cinema is being used in comparison is because that's the most regular 'family' outing that in any way falls into the 'culture' bracket - at Village Green there's cinema, theatre, live performance, comedy, literature, artist-led arts n crafts activities, cinema tent, puppetry..etc etc etc great stuff you just don't see in Southend - something for everyone and a great atmosphere..let's all get behind this and celebrate the vibrant arts and culture of Southend !!
?? ah - yes I go to the beach, Leigh marshes and Hadleigh country park - I leave Chalkwell Park to the dog walkers - the point is, stop moaning about everything people ! the reason the cinema is being used in comparison is because that's the most regular 'family' outing that in any way falls into the 'culture' bracket - at Village Green there's cinema, theatre, live performance, comedy, literature, artist-led arts n crafts activities, cinema tent, puppetry..etc etc etc great stuff you just don't see in Southend - something for everyone and a great atmosphere..let's all get behind this and celebrate the vibrant arts and culture of Southend !! mariamia
  • Score: -7

9:17pm Wed 26 Feb 14

southend-man says...

mariamia wrote:
?? ah - yes I go to the beach, Leigh marshes and Hadleigh country park - I leave Chalkwell Park to the dog walkers - the point is, stop moaning about everything people ! the reason the cinema is being used in comparison is because that's the most regular 'family' outing that in any way falls into the 'culture' bracket - at Village Green there's cinema, theatre, live performance, comedy, literature, artist-led arts n crafts activities, cinema tent, puppetry..etc etc etc great stuff you just don't see in Southend - something for everyone and a great atmosphere..let's all get behind this and celebrate the vibrant arts and culture of Southend !!
You're missing the point - a private enterprise is charging for a public service. It says not for profit but I reckon they'll be fairly generous with their expenses.
[quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: ?? ah - yes I go to the beach, Leigh marshes and Hadleigh country park - I leave Chalkwell Park to the dog walkers - the point is, stop moaning about everything people ! the reason the cinema is being used in comparison is because that's the most regular 'family' outing that in any way falls into the 'culture' bracket - at Village Green there's cinema, theatre, live performance, comedy, literature, artist-led arts n crafts activities, cinema tent, puppetry..etc etc etc great stuff you just don't see in Southend - something for everyone and a great atmosphere..let's all get behind this and celebrate the vibrant arts and culture of Southend !![/p][/quote]You're missing the point - a private enterprise is charging for a public service. It says not for profit but I reckon they'll be fairly generous with their expenses. southend-man
  • Score: 9

10:06pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mariamia says...

no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should
no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should mariamia
  • Score: -5

10:14pm Wed 26 Feb 14

southend-man says...

mariamia wrote:
no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should
That's not what I said at all. To answer your first point, I was referring to the organisers of the event. Secondly, I have no problem with artists being paid, but they should have concerts in private venues for that. The taxpayer pays for the running of the park, so you cannot then charge the taxpayer to go into the park.
[quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should[/p][/quote]That's not what I said at all. To answer your first point, I was referring to the organisers of the event. Secondly, I have no problem with artists being paid, but they should have concerts in private venues for that. The taxpayer pays for the running of the park, so you cannot then charge the taxpayer to go into the park. southend-man
  • Score: 5

12:25am Thu 27 Feb 14

heartbeat says...

mariamia wrote:
no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should
The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier:

"I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ."

There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it.
[quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should[/p][/quote]The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier: "I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ." There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it. heartbeat
  • Score: 8

1:24pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Sarfender1 says...

Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free.
Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free. Sarfender1
  • Score: -2

1:56pm Thu 27 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

wonder how many commentors paid the voluntary charge last year(£3)....NONE i'll wager.
wonder how many commentors paid the voluntary charge last year(£3)....NONE i'll wager. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Feminism is Dead says...

Why don't they make it free for people who live within a certain radius of Chalkwell Park (say 1 mile) and charge everyone else, that way it would keep out the scumbags.
Why don't they make it free for people who live within a certain radius of Chalkwell Park (say 1 mile) and charge everyone else, that way it would keep out the scumbags. Feminism is Dead
  • Score: -4

4:53pm Thu 27 Feb 14

southend-man says...

Sarfender1 wrote:
Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free.
You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park. If a private enterprise wants to use it then fine - but they should not be allowed to close it off to the public who pay to run it. If somebody wants to sing and charge for it - DO IT IN A PRIVATE PLACE.
[quote][p][bold]Sarfender1[/bold] wrote: Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free.[/p][/quote]You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park. If a private enterprise wants to use it then fine - but they should not be allowed to close it off to the public who pay to run it. If somebody wants to sing and charge for it - DO IT IN A PRIVATE PLACE. southend-man
  • Score: 5

10:07pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Sarfender1 says...

Southendman wrote: 'You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park.'

I think you've missed the point. A fair chunk of my tax goes towards putting on the Air Show, every year, which I find tedious and inconvenient. Roads blocked off? But I pay my taxes!
I pay my taxes also for many public facilities I don't use most of the year and if for one day out of 365 there's a fantastic festival on then I'm delighted. If the alternative (making it free to all as was the case for past years) means it won't happen at all then I would think you'd be moaning about that.
The inconvenience of one park suborned for one day, for a fraction of 'my taxes' i think is a price worth paying.

'they should have concerts in private venues for that.'

Of course! Let's not try and do anything different, bigger or better. Let's just stay at home and moan.
Southendman wrote: 'You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park.' I think you've missed the point. A fair chunk of my tax goes towards putting on the Air Show, every year, which I find tedious and inconvenient. Roads blocked off? But I pay my taxes! I pay my taxes also for many public facilities I don't use most of the year and if for one day out of 365 there's a fantastic festival on then I'm delighted. If the alternative (making it free to all as was the case for past years) means it won't happen at all then I would think you'd be moaning about that. The inconvenience of one park suborned for one day, for a fraction of 'my taxes' i think is a price worth paying. 'they should have concerts in private venues for that.' Of course! Let's not try and do anything different, bigger or better. Let's just stay at home and moan. Sarfender1
  • Score: -1

7:10am Fri 28 Feb 14

southend-man says...

Sarfender1 wrote:
Southendman wrote: 'You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park.'

I think you've missed the point. A fair chunk of my tax goes towards putting on the Air Show, every year, which I find tedious and inconvenient. Roads blocked off? But I pay my taxes!
I pay my taxes also for many public facilities I don't use most of the year and if for one day out of 365 there's a fantastic festival on then I'm delighted. If the alternative (making it free to all as was the case for past years) means it won't happen at all then I would think you'd be moaning about that.
The inconvenience of one park suborned for one day, for a fraction of 'my taxes' i think is a price worth paying.

'they should have concerts in private venues for that.'

Of course! Let's not try and do anything different, bigger or better. Let's just stay at home and moan.
Two things:

1. The airshow is private now, your taxes aren't paying for it. And the difference is that they are not going to charge you for going on the promenade on the seafront to watch it, which is effectively what Metal is doing,

2. It's your choice not to use the public facilities - some of us do. No doubt they will say 'no dogs' - I walk my dog in Chalkwell Park every morning. Several days I won't be able to do that now.

3. I don't understand your sarcasm. You assume that anybody who does not want to go this never goes out of their house. Frankly, from what I've read on these comments of people who are in favour of it, this is the one time of year that you do go out of the house!
[quote][p][bold]Sarfender1[/bold] wrote: Southendman wrote: 'You as well are missing the point. We've already paid to use the park.' I think you've missed the point. A fair chunk of my tax goes towards putting on the Air Show, every year, which I find tedious and inconvenient. Roads blocked off? But I pay my taxes! I pay my taxes also for many public facilities I don't use most of the year and if for one day out of 365 there's a fantastic festival on then I'm delighted. If the alternative (making it free to all as was the case for past years) means it won't happen at all then I would think you'd be moaning about that. The inconvenience of one park suborned for one day, for a fraction of 'my taxes' i think is a price worth paying. 'they should have concerts in private venues for that.' Of course! Let's not try and do anything different, bigger or better. Let's just stay at home and moan.[/p][/quote]Two things: 1. The airshow is private now, your taxes aren't paying for it. And the difference is that they are not going to charge you for going on the promenade on the seafront to watch it, which is effectively what Metal is doing, 2. It's your choice not to use the public facilities - some of us do. No doubt they will say 'no dogs' - I walk my dog in Chalkwell Park every morning. Several days I won't be able to do that now. 3. I don't understand your sarcasm. You assume that anybody who does not want to go this never goes out of their house. Frankly, from what I've read on these comments of people who are in favour of it, this is the one time of year that you do go out of the house! southend-man
  • Score: 7

7:13am Fri 28 Feb 14

southend-man says...

heartbeat wrote:
mariamia wrote:
no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should
The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier:

"I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ."

There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it.
I can't quite work out where all of this money is going. They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council. Anyway, what do they do for the other 364 days in the year - just sit in that house twiddling their thumbs?
[quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should[/p][/quote]The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier: "I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ." There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it.[/p][/quote]I can't quite work out where all of this money is going. They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council. Anyway, what do they do for the other 364 days in the year - just sit in that house twiddling their thumbs? southend-man
  • Score: 4

10:44am Fri 28 Feb 14

Sarfender1 says...

southend-man wrote: 'They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council.'

They get about a hundred fifty grand from the Arts Council. That's on public record. The festival costs a quarter million.

'what do they do for the other 364 days…'

They do plenty for the rest of the year: Shorelines literary festival, the Arts Award, various projects in schools. Did you see On the Line last year? They worked with 30 schools and the end exhibition was amazing.it's all on their website.
I noted in the paper on Wednesday some moron quoting a figure of two and a half million and suggesting they do nothing for the rest of the year. Don't repeat the lie.
I also understand that part of the park will remain open to the public so your dog needn't worry.
southend-man wrote: 'They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council.' They get about a hundred fifty grand from the Arts Council. That's on public record. The festival costs a quarter million. 'what do they do for the other 364 days…' They do plenty for the rest of the year: Shorelines literary festival, the Arts Award, various projects in schools. Did you see On the Line last year? They worked with 30 schools and the end exhibition was amazing.it's all on their website. I noted in the paper on Wednesday some moron quoting a figure of two and a half million and suggesting they do nothing for the rest of the year. Don't repeat the lie. I also understand that part of the park will remain open to the public so your dog needn't worry. Sarfender1
  • Score: -4

11:27am Fri 28 Feb 14

DogsMessInLeigh says...

Sarfender1 wrote:
Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free.
57% think its wrong according to the poll.....now if it was 5% that think its wrong i make you right., but its not.
[quote][p][bold]Sarfender1[/bold] wrote: Why do some people feel it's their inalienable right to be entertained for nothing? Here's a thought: if you can see all the acts for nothing in a pub, don't go. If you don't like the bands then don't go. If a tenner seems too steep for what you're getting, don't go. And if you do decide to thumb your nose and jump the fence I hope you get frog marched out. Expecting to get something for nothing is an insult to those honest punters prepared to pay and those of us who donated voluntarily last year to try and keep it free.[/p][/quote]57% think its wrong according to the poll.....now if it was 5% that think its wrong i make you right., but its not. DogsMessInLeigh
  • Score: 4

10:20pm Fri 28 Feb 14

echoforum says...

The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back.
Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening
The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening echoforum
  • Score: 0

9:06am Sat 1 Mar 14

Nebs says...

southend-man wrote:
heartbeat wrote:
mariamia wrote:
no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should
The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier:

"I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ."

There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it.
I can't quite work out where all of this money is going. They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council. Anyway, what do they do for the other 364 days in the year - just sit in that house twiddling their thumbs?
http://www.charityco
mmission.gov.uk/find
-charities/

1104635 - METAL CULTURE LIMITED
DOCUMENTS OVERDUE
Accounts for 31 Mar 2013: 29 days overdue
Annual Return for 31 Mar 2013: 29 days overdue

2012 accounts on public record at
http://apps.charityc
ommission.gov.uk/Acc
ounts/Ends35/0001104
635_AC_20120331_E_C.
pdf

5 employees, one of whom earns £60,000 to £70,000

During the year the company made purchases, on normal commercial terms, amounting to 21,326 (2011:32,738) from Thompson Brand Partners, a business in which I Thompson is a partner.
I have to wonder why they needed to spend a large chunk of their income on creating a 'brand', which seems to be a lot of money for updating a website
http://thompsonbrand
partners.com/project
s/view/9/metal says....
The brand comes to life at events and online. We created a new blog-style website to reflect the ever-changing nature of Metal’s work and helped them to stay up to date. We also used unusual formats for the printed launch materials – textured papers, section sewn booklets and toothy uncoated paper stocks meant that all of the launch materials felt as special as the projects they were advocating.


When the 2013 accounts are finally submitted there is bound to be a lot of information about the costs of last years village green festival.
[quote][p][bold]southend-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heartbeat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mariamia[/bold] wrote: no, you're missing the point ! Metal is not a profit making business ! What profit do you think they make from all their free school projects? who exactly do you think will receive 'generous expenses' ?? Artists and performers have to be paid, all the technical staff have to be paid, security and support staff have to be paid...or do you think all these people should work for free now arts funding (which in the past enabled these events to be free) has been so drastically cut? Do you work for free? no I thought not, but everyone seems to think artists should[/p][/quote]The artists and performers do have to be paid? "Sybian Sue" said earlier: "I totally disagree with you, heartbeat. I don't think we're being asked to pay for the bands anyway as they're probably happy to have the opportunity of playing to a large audience without getting paid ." There seems to be a lack of clarity regarding expenses involved (or not) - how ticket prices can be worked out on that basis I'm not sure! I'm wonder what the Dragons Den folk would make of it.[/p][/quote]I can't quite work out where all of this money is going. They are getting £2,500,000 from the arts council. Anyway, what do they do for the other 364 days in the year - just sit in that house twiddling their thumbs?[/p][/quote]http://www.charityco mmission.gov.uk/find -charities/ 1104635 - METAL CULTURE LIMITED DOCUMENTS OVERDUE Accounts for 31 Mar 2013: 29 days overdue Annual Return for 31 Mar 2013: 29 days overdue 2012 accounts on public record at http://apps.charityc ommission.gov.uk/Acc ounts/Ends35/0001104 635_AC_20120331_E_C. pdf 5 employees, one of whom earns £60,000 to £70,000 During the year the company made purchases, on normal commercial terms, amounting to 21,326 (2011:32,738) from Thompson Brand Partners, a business in which I Thompson is a partner. I have to wonder why they needed to spend a large chunk of their income on creating a 'brand', which seems to be a lot of money for updating a website http://thompsonbrand partners.com/project s/view/9/metal says.... The brand comes to life at events and online. We created a new blog-style website to reflect the ever-changing nature of Metal’s work and helped them to stay up to date. We also used unusual formats for the printed launch materials – textured papers, section sewn booklets and toothy uncoated paper stocks meant that all of the launch materials felt as special as the projects they were advocating. When the 2013 accounts are finally submitted there is bound to be a lot of information about the costs of last years village green festival. Nebs
  • Score: 3

2:46pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Sarfender1 says...

echoforum wrote:
The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back.
Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening
10 quid! Really??
[quote][p][bold]echoforum[/bold] wrote: The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening[/p][/quote]10 quid! Really?? Sarfender1
  • Score: 1

9:37am Mon 3 Mar 14

Feminism is Dead says...

echoforum wrote:
The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening
Sounds alright to me
[quote][p][bold]echoforum[/bold] wrote: The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening[/p][/quote]Sounds alright to me Feminism is Dead
  • Score: 0

9:48am Mon 3 Mar 14

southendcivilservant says...

echoforum wrote:
The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening
Eh? Private gig??
If you've got £10 then it's hardly private or elite. And if 'Tristian' and 'Poppy' are under 11 then they get in free, otherwise it's just £5 each. Why is that sickening? Please keep in mind that if the majority of people had paid the voluntary charge from last year then just maybe we wouldn't have to stump up the charge this year. Also bear in mind that by paying this charge, it keeps our council tax down for people who aren't interested in this type of event.
[quote][p][bold]echoforum[/bold] wrote: The elite of Chalkwell and Leigh have got what they always wanted their private gig back. Tickets only available to the Bankers/Hedge Funders and Multi-Property owning who can sip their Summer punch whilst their children: Tristian and Poppy play safely.....sickening[/p][/quote]Eh? Private gig?? If you've got £10 then it's hardly private or elite. And if 'Tristian' and 'Poppy' are under 11 then they get in free, otherwise it's just £5 each. Why is that sickening? Please keep in mind that if the majority of people had paid the voluntary charge from last year then just maybe we wouldn't have to stump up the charge this year. Also bear in mind that by paying this charge, it keeps our council tax down for people who aren't interested in this type of event. southendcivilservant
  • Score: 0

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