‘We need more time over new homes plans’

Pam Challis and Norman Smith with the local plan

Pam Challis and Norman Smith with the local plan

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RESIDENTS want more time to give their views on plans to build 4,000 new homes in Castle Point after it is claimed hundreds of people didn’t get feedback forms.

Castle Point Council’s controversial proposal to build the homes by 2031 was explained in a leaflet which was meant to be sent to all homes in the borough.

However, hundreds of homes didn’t receive the leaflet or the attached questionnaire asking for feedback on the plans.

Calls have now been made to extend the consultation beyond the March 21 deadline.

Julia Burch, 46, of Badgers Way, Thundersley said she thought the council had no choice but to extend the consultation period.

She said: “There are so many people in the borough are without this vital document that will have a huge say in our future and the future of Castle Point itself. A lot of people still don’t know the finer details of what the council is proposing and they must have a say for the council to receive a fair representation.

It is incredibly frustrating.”

Ms Burch added the Regeneration Shops, in the Knightswick Centre, Canvey and Hadleigh High Street, needed to be open in the evenings so people working in the day could visit.

The shops, which cost £60,000 a year to run, close at 4pm on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and 1pm on Saturdays, meaning some residents are unable to visit.

She added: “I would love to spend an evening perusing the maps, but it is just not possible.”

Patricia Mayes, 40, of Hilltop Avenue, Benfleet said more people needed to attend the meetings to have a say on the plan. Only 15 people attended Monday’s Thundersley ward meeting, seven of who were councillors or council officers.

She said: “This is a hugely important time and people must have their say. If they don’t, they cannot criticise it when plans are passed.”

Steve Rogers, Head of Regeneration and Neighbourhoods at Castle Point Council, said the authority would not be extending the consultation period.

He said: “This isn’t a referendum or a vote, it is a consultation. Anyone can respond and I would encourage anyone, regardless of their age, to come into the council offices or a regeneration shop or look online to take part. This is inclusive, not exclusive.

“We are concerned at the number of people who haven’t received a leaflet and this is something we have taken up with Royal Mail. Anyone who does not have the relevant information should contact the council and we will ensure it is sent to them.”

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2:29pm Thu 6 Mar 14

rayleigh123 says...

So Castle Point people are unhappy with 4,000 plus new homes and Rayleigh people also complaining about 3,500 new homes around Carpenter Arms, Rayeigh. Basildon council are talking about 2,500 homes in Bowers Gifford. Have these learned councils thought about the infrastrure of south east Essex - The A13 and A127 are grid locked in the rush hour - doctors - hospitals - schools - Ralways - buses

Also where are all these good people going to work ??/

With all of the green belt disappearing under concrete - will there be enough AIR TO BREATH ??

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So Castle Point people are unhappy with 4,000 plus new homes and Rayleigh people also complaining about 3,500 new homes around Carpenter Arms, Rayeigh. Basildon council are talking about 2,500 homes in Bowers Gifford. Have these learned councils thought about the infrastrure of south east Essex - The A13 and A127 are grid locked in the rush hour - doctors - hospitals - schools - Ralways - buses Also where are all these good people going to work ??/ With all of the green belt disappearing under concrete - will there be enough AIR TO BREATH ?? . . . rayleigh123
  • Score: 13

2:38pm Thu 6 Mar 14

upset says...

If the government ban building on flood plains following Somerset flooding as predicted, will that mean no building on Canvey?
If the government ban building on flood plains following Somerset flooding as predicted, will that mean no building on Canvey? upset
  • Score: 4

3:25pm Thu 6 Mar 14

billericay boy says...

Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.
Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending. billericay boy
  • Score: 12

3:45pm Thu 6 Mar 14

billericay boy says...

billericay boy wrote:
Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.
PS, If you were lucky enough to own a house of where your back garden overlooking lovely country side and you paid for that, then next day at the end of your back garden was a council estate, you would be pretty peed off. And don't tell me that anyone on here would feel the same way.
[quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.[/p][/quote]PS, If you were lucky enough to own a house of where your back garden overlooking lovely country side and you paid for that, then next day at the end of your back garden was a council estate, you would be pretty peed off. And don't tell me that anyone on here would feel the same way. billericay boy
  • Score: 11

6:23pm Thu 6 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

billericay boy wrote:
Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.
Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans?
[quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.[/p][/quote]Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans? ThisYear
  • Score: 3

6:37pm Thu 6 Mar 14

billericay boy says...

ThisYear wrote:
billericay boy wrote:
Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.
Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans?
The council just assumed that everyone new about the council developments
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.[/p][/quote]Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans?[/p][/quote]The council just assumed that everyone new about the council developments billericay boy
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Thu 6 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

billericay boy wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
billericay boy wrote:
Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.
Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans?
The council just assumed that everyone new about the council developments
if pressed they would have to say/show how they came to that conclusion...this council replies on people not questioning them..
[quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Castle point you are not alone, basildon council did the same to us in billericay handing out only a few forms hoping no one would notice there 2017 / 2031 building houses on green belt land until we found out and approached them, they said every one around the area should have been informed, ( yeah rite) now we do know about it the council meeting of which is tonight was in there office had to be moved to a hall because of the many ,we are not happy residents will now be attending.[/p][/quote]Did anyone enquire of the council how they went about letting 'everyone' in the area know about their long term plans?[/p][/quote]The council just assumed that everyone new about the council developments[/p][/quote]if pressed they would have to say/show how they came to that conclusion...this council replies on people not questioning them.. ThisYear
  • Score: 5

10:13pm Thu 6 Mar 14

ddtthundersley says...

I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded.
I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters
I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded. I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters ddtthundersley
  • Score: 4

11:04pm Thu 6 Mar 14

paulatepc says...

A March 18th 2014 deadline for what is supposed to be a "very long-term plan" seems suspicious to me. In addition we are being told that the Green belt up for grabs is just land that the owners have "suggested" could be for building, and not an actual list of building sites put forward by the planners. However read the small print. The Governments Green Belt study says that any Green belt that doesn't have one or more of the "special conditions" i.e protected species etc, can be delisted.

Lets take a closer look at the money spent by interested parties on lobbying.

Write to your MP to say that you won't vote for him/her unless the Green Belt destruction plan isn't reversed.
A March 18th 2014 deadline for what is supposed to be a "very long-term plan" seems suspicious to me. In addition we are being told that the Green belt up for grabs is just land that the owners have "suggested" could be for building, and not an actual list of building sites put forward by the planners. However read the small print. The Governments Green Belt study says that any Green belt that doesn't have one or more of the "special conditions" i.e protected species etc, can be delisted. Lets take a closer look at the money spent by interested parties on lobbying. Write to your MP to say that you won't vote for him/her unless the Green Belt destruction plan isn't reversed. paulatepc
  • Score: 8

7:48am Fri 7 Mar 14

carnmountyouknowitmakessense says...

The forms have been sent to the right residents, the private home owners, after all it is these contributors, which lay the very foundations of life, and as such, should have a say in the future developments, whilst Council house/flat dwellers should, sit at the back of this debate, taking notes..
The forms have been sent to the right residents, the private home owners, after all it is these contributors, which lay the very foundations of life, and as such, should have a say in the future developments, whilst Council house/flat dwellers should, sit at the back of this debate, taking notes.. carnmountyouknowitmakessense
  • Score: -1

10:17am Fri 7 Mar 14

paulatepc says...

carnmountyouknowitma
kessense
wrote:
The forms have been sent to the right residents, the private home owners, after all it is these contributors, which lay the very foundations of life, and as such, should have a say in the future developments, whilst Council house/flat dwellers should, sit at the back of this debate, taking notes..
write to your MP - doing nothing is not an option. If there is enough protest things will happen...
[quote][p][bold]carnmountyouknowitma kessense[/bold] wrote: The forms have been sent to the right residents, the private home owners, after all it is these contributors, which lay the very foundations of life, and as such, should have a say in the future developments, whilst Council house/flat dwellers should, sit at the back of this debate, taking notes..[/p][/quote]write to your MP - doing nothing is not an option. If there is enough protest things will happen... paulatepc
  • Score: 3

6:06pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Louisajo says...

ddtthundersley wrote:
I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded.
I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters
Yes, we were at that meeting too and were totally staggered at what we witnessed! Mr Dick refused to accept the because it went against the development. At his insistence there was a revote - and the plans were passed. The developers were in the meeting. Grinning like Cheshire cats. The residents inside and outside the chambers were treated with total disdain. We were told if we made any noise at all we'd be ejected from the premises. It was shocking in the extreme. Our local MP was witness to this debacle. She did nothing.
This time we need to stand firm and not be bullied by the people on the council who's interests seem to lie far from those of us who reside in the
Borough. If we don't we will see our standard of living eroded by this gross, environmentally unsound, development. Sadly Castle Point is becoming a less and less desirable area in which to live. let's not let it slide down any more!
[quote][p][bold]ddtthundersley[/bold] wrote: I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded. I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters[/p][/quote]Yes, we were at that meeting too and were totally staggered at what we witnessed! Mr Dick refused to accept the because it went against the development. At his insistence there was a revote - and the plans were passed. The developers were in the meeting. Grinning like Cheshire cats. The residents inside and outside the chambers were treated with total disdain. We were told if we made any noise at all we'd be ejected from the premises. It was shocking in the extreme. Our local MP was witness to this debacle. She did nothing. This time we need to stand firm and not be bullied by the people on the council who's interests seem to lie far from those of us who reside in the Borough. If we don't we will see our standard of living eroded by this gross, environmentally unsound, development. Sadly Castle Point is becoming a less and less desirable area in which to live. let's not let it slide down any more! Louisajo
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Louisajo says...

ddtthundersley wrote:
I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded.
I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters
We also were witness to the weird behaviour of Mr Dick on that occasion. It was unbelievable that he would not accept the vote against the development and insisteed on a re- vote. The developers were there, grinning like Cheshire cats. It was quite staggering. Why wouldn't he accept the vote and why did our council representatives eventually bow down to him? They all knew the fierce opposition to the development and the very sound reasons for the objections.
The Borough is becoming less and less desirable as a residential area. We ALL need to act before we find ourselves in an environment that is truly stressful and very unpleasant to reside within!
If this consultation is inclusive then Mr Steve Rogers needs to show that ALL residents are given the correct, easy to decipher, plans and enough time to take stock of the plans and respond. That WILL mean extending the consultation period! Does this man reside in this area I wonder?
[quote][p][bold]ddtthundersley[/bold] wrote: I have the consultation document and having experienced Mr Dick , head of planning bully other councillors to pass the Chase Development against the wishes of the majority of residents against the development all who packed the council chamber both inside and outside were dumbfounded. I for one feel completing and posting the consultation document is a waste of time, the excuse the council gave was that it would cost money to go against the application as the planners would win on appeal . Because this government want to build its way out of recession .. I mistakenly thought that the elected councillors represented the local people who voted them in... wrong they represent their government masters[/p][/quote]We also were witness to the weird behaviour of Mr Dick on that occasion. It was unbelievable that he would not accept the vote against the development and insisteed on a re- vote. The developers were there, grinning like Cheshire cats. It was quite staggering. Why wouldn't he accept the vote and why did our council representatives eventually bow down to him? They all knew the fierce opposition to the development and the very sound reasons for the objections. The Borough is becoming less and less desirable as a residential area. We ALL need to act before we find ourselves in an environment that is truly stressful and very unpleasant to reside within! If this consultation is inclusive then Mr Steve Rogers needs to show that ALL residents are given the correct, easy to decipher, plans and enough time to take stock of the plans and respond. That WILL mean extending the consultation period! Does this man reside in this area I wonder? Louisajo
  • Score: 1

7:35pm Mon 10 Mar 14

endway says...

I received my leaflet ok but guess what , no questionnaire or prepaid envelope , How very strange.
I received my leaflet ok but guess what , no questionnaire or prepaid envelope , How very strange. endway
  • Score: 0

8:15am Fri 21 Mar 14

johanuk says...

upset wrote:
If the government ban building on flood plains following Somerset flooding as predicted, will that mean no building on Canvey?
I sincerely hope this is the case!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]upset[/bold] wrote: If the government ban building on flood plains following Somerset flooding as predicted, will that mean no building on Canvey?[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope this is the case!!!!! johanuk
  • Score: 0

8:26am Fri 21 Mar 14

johanuk says...

rayleigh123 wrote:
So Castle Point people are unhappy with 4,000 plus new homes and Rayleigh people also complaining about 3,500 new homes around Carpenter Arms, Rayeigh. Basildon council are talking about 2,500 homes in Bowers Gifford. Have these learned councils thought about the infrastrure of south east Essex - The A13 and A127 are grid locked in the rush hour - doctors - hospitals - schools - Ralways - buses

Also where are all these good people going to work ??/

With all of the green belt disappearing under concrete - will there be enough AIR TO BREATH ??

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I agree!!......why do they want to build thousands more homes in this overcrowded corner of Essex? There are only two inadequate roads out going west (A13/A127) and the North sea and Thames are barriers south and east. Why not build in the north of Essex where access is better, say next to the A120 near Stansted, and even-out the population numbers?
[quote][p][bold]rayleigh123[/bold] wrote: So Castle Point people are unhappy with 4,000 plus new homes and Rayleigh people also complaining about 3,500 new homes around Carpenter Arms, Rayeigh. Basildon council are talking about 2,500 homes in Bowers Gifford. Have these learned councils thought about the infrastrure of south east Essex - The A13 and A127 are grid locked in the rush hour - doctors - hospitals - schools - Ralways - buses Also where are all these good people going to work ??/ With all of the green belt disappearing under concrete - will there be enough AIR TO BREATH ?? . . .[/p][/quote]I agree!!......why do they want to build thousands more homes in this overcrowded corner of Essex? There are only two inadequate roads out going west (A13/A127) and the North sea and Thames are barriers south and east. Why not build in the north of Essex where access is better, say next to the A120 near Stansted, and even-out the population numbers? johanuk
  • Score: 0

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