Ofsted tells Rascals Childcare, Rayleigh, it must be more multicultural

Nursery told it must be more multicultural by Ofsted

Nursery told it must be more multicultural by Ofsted

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OFSTED has told a nursery it requires improvement because it has too few multicultural resources in its play area.

Inspector Clair Stockings’s report into the private Rascals Childcare centre, based at the Huntingdon Church in Talbot Avenue, Rayleigh, said: “There are few multicultural resources in the role play area to fully reflect diversity to help children learn about the similarities and differences between themselves and others.”

The pre-school, previously rated as “good”, has also been marked down because of lower than expected standards of planning, and for not using self-evaluation forms well enough.

But it was praised elsewhere for the bond staff have with the children, good behaviour and safety.

Owner Nicola Martin said the nursery believed it made enough efforts to teach children about multiculturalism – and even had a Chinese New Year display on its wall when the inspection was carried out. She said: “We have facilities for teaching multiculturalism.

“We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.”

The overwhelming majority of students at the nursery are from a white British background.

Ms Martin added: “None of the parents have raised any concerns or asked any questions about it, they’ve just noticed the staff have been praised.

“I was a bit concerned they judged the whole business in two-and-a-half hours. We thought it was rather quick. Some of the things they say are vague.”

An Ofsted spokesman said: “Inspection arrangements for early years providers look at seven areas of learning, one of which is understanding the world.

“Inspectors will use their expertise in the field of childcare in considering how well a provider meets children’s needs in this respect.”

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8:35am Sun 23 Mar 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

I swear the Echo makes these stories up just to have a laugh at the comments from the UKIP Daily Mail brigade that will surely follow.
I swear the Echo makes these stories up just to have a laugh at the comments from the UKIP Daily Mail brigade that will surely follow. Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: -30

10:06am Sun 23 Mar 14

pendulum says...

Nope, not made up. The politically correct left really have got this bad.
Nope, not made up. The politically correct left really have got this bad. pendulum
  • Score: 70

10:15am Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah.

Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!! Sensible Man
  • Score: 53

10:48am Sun 23 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

Sensible Man wrote:
How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah.

Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
no labour ever again, but happy days ? the disease of political correctness now infects all the main parties, and civil service to the extent that stories as despicable as this will be common place for years, and england as we knew it is already lost....
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]no labour ever again, but happy days ? the disease of political correctness now infects all the main parties, and civil service to the extent that stories as despicable as this will be common place for years, and england as we knew it is already lost.... pembury53
  • Score: 42

11:00am Sun 23 Mar 14

Mattster says...

Perhaps OFSTED should concentrate their resources on identifying failing councils social services departments allowing children to be starved to death (Daniel Pelka) than nit-picking nurseries because they are not preaching enough of the Left's multi-cultural colonisation procedures.
Perhaps OFSTED should concentrate their resources on identifying failing councils social services departments allowing children to be starved to death (Daniel Pelka) than nit-picking nurseries because they are not preaching enough of the Left's multi-cultural colonisation procedures. Mattster
  • Score: 70

11:40am Sun 23 Mar 14

Southend Andy says...

Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.
Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked. Southend Andy
  • Score: 51

11:41am Sun 23 Mar 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

This is england, fit-in or f**k-off
This is england, fit-in or f**k-off LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 83

12:36pm Sun 23 Mar 14

BIRLIS says...

Southend Andy wrote:
Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.
I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...?

It's not a question I could answer..

I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others.

I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing!
[quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...? It's not a question I could answer.. I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others. I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing! BIRLIS
  • Score: 2

2:20pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!! Sensible Man
  • Score: 16

2:31pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
This is england, fit-in or f**k-off
What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: This is england, fit-in or f**k-off[/p][/quote]What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth. Sensible Man
  • Score: 31

2:43pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white? Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: -19

2:55pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

pembury53 wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah.

Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
no labour ever again, but happy days ? the disease of political correctness now infects all the main parties, and civil service to the extent that stories as despicable as this will be common place for years, and england as we knew it is already lost....
pembury -

Once the useless Labour filth are forever gone post Scottish Independence - we should then be left with a straight UKIP / Conservative battleground (SURELY - no-one will ever again be stupid enough to vote Lib Dem?). We will then - hopefully - have a REAL centre-right coalition where all immigration is banned, the shoebox building filth are shut down once and for all, English ways and culture reign supreme, and the current useless Liberal / Labour judges are kicked out and we get some PROPER punishment for criminal filth.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]no labour ever again, but happy days ? the disease of political correctness now infects all the main parties, and civil service to the extent that stories as despicable as this will be common place for years, and england as we knew it is already lost....[/p][/quote]pembury - Once the useless Labour filth are forever gone post Scottish Independence - we should then be left with a straight UKIP / Conservative battleground (SURELY - no-one will ever again be stupid enough to vote Lib Dem?). We will then - hopefully - have a REAL centre-right coalition where all immigration is banned, the shoebox building filth are shut down once and for all, English ways and culture reign supreme, and the current useless Liberal / Labour judges are kicked out and we get some PROPER punishment for criminal filth. Sensible Man
  • Score: 13

3:07pm Sun 23 Mar 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

Sensible Man wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
This is england, fit-in or f**k-off
What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.
If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: This is england, fit-in or f**k-off[/p][/quote]What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.[/p][/quote]If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 13

3:07pm Sun 23 Mar 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day
If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 6

3:10pm Sun 23 Mar 14

LinfordsLunchbox says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta LinfordsLunchbox
  • Score: 34

3:34pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
Oh dear Richy- oh dear dear dear. As usual with lefties you resort to the white / non-white rubbish. Seems to me you are being more than a little libellous. My concern is down to numbers pure and simple - this ever-growing population is going to destroy our nice green environment pure and simple. Now - an apology from you for your filthy disgusting assertion / statement would DEFINITELY be in order.
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]Oh dear Richy- oh dear dear dear. As usual with lefties you resort to the white / non-white rubbish. Seems to me you are being more than a little libellous. My concern is down to numbers pure and simple - this ever-growing population is going to destroy our nice green environment pure and simple. Now - an apology from you for your filthy disgusting assertion / statement would DEFINITELY be in order. Sensible Man
  • Score: 16

3:45pm Sun 23 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up..... pembury53
  • Score: 27

3:48pm Sun 23 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

BIRLIS wrote:
Southend Andy wrote:
Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.
I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...?

It's not a question I could answer..

I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others.

I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing!
kids should be in school to get a proper education, not learn about someone else's imaginary friend and other such mumbo jumbo.....
[quote][p][bold]BIRLIS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...? It's not a question I could answer.. I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others. I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing![/p][/quote]kids should be in school to get a proper education, not learn about someone else's imaginary friend and other such mumbo jumbo..... pembury53
  • Score: 22

3:52pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

By the way Richie-

Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn.

SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!!
By the way Richie- Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn. SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!! Sensible Man
  • Score: 17

4:06pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Sensible Man wrote:
By the way Richie-

Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn.

SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!!
Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: By the way Richie- Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn. SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!![/p][/quote]Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: -14

4:06pm Sun 23 Mar 14

BIRLIS says...

Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Sensible Man - No, I do not vote for or support labour. I was not making a wider comment other than saying, in response to this story, that in my experience schools are doing a good job in the areas discussed. Whether or not one agrees with current immigration policies, a younger generation of immigrant kids more willing to integrate and indigious kids more willing to accept others has got to make the future look better (whether the country is bursting at the seems or not) than seggrgation and mistrust.

I think you read a bit too much into my comments.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Sensible Man - No, I do not vote for or support labour. I was not making a wider comment other than saying, in response to this story, that in my experience schools are doing a good job in the areas discussed. Whether or not one agrees with current immigration policies, a younger generation of immigrant kids more willing to integrate and indigious kids more willing to accept others has got to make the future look better (whether the country is bursting at the seems or not) than seggrgation and mistrust. I think you read a bit too much into my comments. BIRLIS
  • Score: 4

4:26pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

BIRLIS wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Sensible Man - No, I do not vote for or support labour. I was not making a wider comment other than saying, in response to this story, that in my experience schools are doing a good job in the areas discussed. Whether or not one agrees with current immigration policies, a younger generation of immigrant kids more willing to integrate and indigious kids more willing to accept others has got to make the future look better (whether the country is bursting at the seems or not) than seggrgation and mistrust.

I think you read a bit too much into my comments.
BIRLIS -

Thank you. I apologise for assuming you were a Labour voter - thanks for the clarification.
[quote][p][bold]BIRLIS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Sensible Man - No, I do not vote for or support labour. I was not making a wider comment other than saying, in response to this story, that in my experience schools are doing a good job in the areas discussed. Whether or not one agrees with current immigration policies, a younger generation of immigrant kids more willing to integrate and indigious kids more willing to accept others has got to make the future look better (whether the country is bursting at the seems or not) than seggrgation and mistrust. I think you read a bit too much into my comments.[/p][/quote]BIRLIS - Thank you. I apologise for assuming you were a Labour voter - thanks for the clarification. Sensible Man
  • Score: 1

4:29pm Sun 23 Mar 14

BIRLIS says...

No worries.
No worries. BIRLIS
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Sun 23 Mar 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

Don't kids play with gollies these days?
Don't kids play with gollies these days? GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 11

4:43pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Idontknowy says...

About time they made sure the English culture was taught and practiced
About time they made sure the English culture was taught and practiced Idontknowy
  • Score: 26

5:04pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Mattster says...

BIRLIS wrote:
Southend Andy wrote:
Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.
I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...?

It's not a question I could answer..

I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others.

I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing!
Trouble with the melting pot analogy is that there is little melting anymore.
[quote][p][bold]BIRLIS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend Andy[/bold] wrote: Ok everyone should learn about other peoples religion & beliefs, but our own religions & beliefs must not be over looked.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree, but what is an English religion? C of E, Catholism, Judaism, Atheism, Islam, Budism...? It's not a question I could answer.. I tend to think schools have it about right. With such a melting pot of cultures they do seem to cover a great deal of beliefs and backgrounds. I think it seems to be working wel too, as kids don't seem to see differences as barriers. They seem to accept them pretty well, and have little problem that some cultures approach things in different ways to others. I would add that this includes kids from abroad buying into UK ideals, as well as UK born kids being tolerant to other cultures. Can't be a bad thing![/p][/quote]Trouble with the melting pot analogy is that there is little melting anymore. Mattster
  • Score: 12

6:03pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Spledoink says...

Its a funny old world when Leftie/Liberal style judgements such as this one, will only have the effect of driving more and more people into the UKIP camp, thereby polarising opinion, and having exactly the opposite effect to that intended. I've stated once before on here, and I say it again, just watch what happens in the next local elections. Thanks to this sort of thing, both locally as here, and nationally, more Conservative councillors will lose their seats to UKIP candidates.
It is time the Tories sorted out the loonies who come up with this sort of thing - especially in a place like Rayleigh, one of the least culturally mixed places you can find, before their vote is seriously eroded.
You know it makes sense.
Its a funny old world when Leftie/Liberal style judgements such as this one, will only have the effect of driving more and more people into the UKIP camp, thereby polarising opinion, and having exactly the opposite effect to that intended. I've stated once before on here, and I say it again, just watch what happens in the next local elections. Thanks to this sort of thing, both locally as here, and nationally, more Conservative councillors will lose their seats to UKIP candidates. It is time the Tories sorted out the loonies who come up with this sort of thing - especially in a place like Rayleigh, one of the least culturally mixed places you can find, before their vote is seriously eroded. You know it makes sense. Spledoink
  • Score: 17

6:09pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Richy don't shine shoes no more says...

Spledoink wrote:
Its a funny old world when Leftie/Liberal style judgements such as this one, will only have the effect of driving more and more people into the UKIP camp, thereby polarising opinion, and having exactly the opposite effect to that intended. I've stated once before on here, and I say it again, just watch what happens in the next local elections. Thanks to this sort of thing, both locally as here, and nationally, more Conservative councillors will lose their seats to UKIP candidates.
It is time the Tories sorted out the loonies who come up with this sort of thing - especially in a place like Rayleigh, one of the least culturally mixed places you can find, before their vote is seriously eroded.
You know it makes sense.
Scrap all other comments above. You've nailed it.
[quote][p][bold]Spledoink[/bold] wrote: Its a funny old world when Leftie/Liberal style judgements such as this one, will only have the effect of driving more and more people into the UKIP camp, thereby polarising opinion, and having exactly the opposite effect to that intended. I've stated once before on here, and I say it again, just watch what happens in the next local elections. Thanks to this sort of thing, both locally as here, and nationally, more Conservative councillors will lose their seats to UKIP candidates. It is time the Tories sorted out the loonies who come up with this sort of thing - especially in a place like Rayleigh, one of the least culturally mixed places you can find, before their vote is seriously eroded. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Scrap all other comments above. You've nailed it. Richy don't shine shoes no more
  • Score: 12

6:28pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Robin Reliant says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
Don't kids play with gollies these days?
as we know they got banned/outlawed way back along with the ones on the Blackjack wrappers....and now ofsted mark a pre-school down because there was no multi racial resources/toys/learn
ing tools, you can't win.
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't kids play with gollies these days?[/p][/quote]as we know they got banned/outlawed way back along with the ones on the Blackjack wrappers....and now ofsted mark a pre-school down because there was no multi racial resources/toys/learn ing tools, you can't win. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 16

7:07pm Sun 23 Mar 14

stopmoaning1 says...

Ofsted, one of the lefts looniest waste of resources staffed dare I say by failed teachers and loony do gooders.
Even HMS Raleigh, the Royal Navy's initial training establishment has Ofsted inspections. Imagine the scenario:
Burly Chief Petty Officer, "Morning class, today I'm going to teach you all how to kill the enemy, we'll have a break for lunch but I must warn you that if you don't play nicely together during the break, or if I hear any nasty name calling, you'll get detention and have to explain to the Captain why you've been so nasty"

(I believe the other two services also get inspected by Ofsted at their training establishments)
Ofsted, one of the lefts looniest waste of resources staffed dare I say by failed teachers and loony do gooders. Even HMS Raleigh, the Royal Navy's initial training establishment has Ofsted inspections. Imagine the scenario: Burly Chief Petty Officer, "Morning class, today I'm going to teach you all how to kill the enemy, we'll have a break for lunch but I must warn you that if you don't play nicely together during the break, or if I hear any nasty name calling, you'll get detention and have to explain to the Captain why you've been so nasty" (I believe the other two services also get inspected by Ofsted at their training establishments) stopmoaning1
  • Score: 17

10:56pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

How absurd of OFSTED inspector Clair Stocking to downgrade this nursery.

The overwhelming majority of children at the nursery are predominantly white British according to the Echo report and none of the parents have complained about the apparent "insufficiency".

There is far too much rampant political correctness in schools and therefore, as OFSTED, yet another bureaucracy-ridden quango, is due to be overhauled, I hope those involved will see to it that this sort of ridiculous over reaction will be discouraged in future.

A report published recently states that OFSTED must also seek to reduce the number of outsourced inspectors and that there should be an accreditation exam for its staff. I suggest that OFSTED itself should be inspected by an independent body before its inspectors are let loose if they cannot appoint staff for their ability to make decisions that are rooted in reality, rather than box ticking for its own sake.

This is the most tolerant nation in the world and has especially over the last two decades, absorbed a plethora of cultures and ethnicities, so we need no lessons in how to promote multiculturalism.

Perhaps these inspectors should concentrate their efforts more on the welfare of the children, the dedication of the nursery staff and its provision of the building bricks of a sound education which should be focused on pre-reading and creative skills rather than ramming the now predictable and irritating PC agenda down the throats of those who have worked so hard to create a pleasant and welcoming environment for their young charges.
How absurd of OFSTED inspector Clair Stocking to downgrade this nursery. The overwhelming majority of children at the nursery are predominantly white British according to the Echo report and none of the parents have complained about the apparent "insufficiency". There is far too much rampant political correctness in schools and therefore, as OFSTED, yet another bureaucracy-ridden quango, is due to be overhauled, I hope those involved will see to it that this sort of ridiculous over reaction will be discouraged in future. A report published recently states that OFSTED must also seek to reduce the number of outsourced inspectors and that there should be an accreditation exam for its staff. I suggest that OFSTED itself should be inspected by an independent body before its inspectors are let loose if they cannot appoint staff for their ability to make decisions that are rooted in reality, rather than box ticking for its own sake. This is the most tolerant nation in the world and has especially over the last two decades, absorbed a plethora of cultures and ethnicities, so we need no lessons in how to promote multiculturalism. Perhaps these inspectors should concentrate their efforts more on the welfare of the children, the dedication of the nursery staff and its provision of the building bricks of a sound education which should be focused on pre-reading and creative skills rather than ramming the now predictable and irritating PC agenda down the throats of those who have worked so hard to create a pleasant and welcoming environment for their young charges. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 20

10:59pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
I swear the Echo makes these stories up just to have a laugh at the comments from the UKIP Daily Mail brigade that will surely follow.
Another one who assumes that UKIP and the Daily Mail are synonymous.

Actually UKIP are more Guardian these days since they started being infiltrated by UAF nutters.

There are some fantastic UKIP councillors and candidates in this borough - but recently they have allowed some lefties to join. At least two of them are rabid misogynists and at least one of them has delusions of grandeur.

Most have been in practically every political party and one of them at least is due for a thorough dressing down from me at the count on 22nd May.

I've never met the man yet he seems to be an expert on me and my life. A bit like some people on this website.

Strange phenomenon.

As for the Daily Mail; load of scaremongering rubbish written by lefties to wind up righties.
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: I swear the Echo makes these stories up just to have a laugh at the comments from the UKIP Daily Mail brigade that will surely follow.[/p][/quote]Another one who assumes that UKIP and the Daily Mail are synonymous. Actually UKIP are more Guardian these days since they started being infiltrated by UAF nutters. There are some fantastic UKIP councillors and candidates in this borough - but recently they have allowed some lefties to join. At least two of them are rabid misogynists and at least one of them has delusions of grandeur. Most have been in practically every political party and one of them at least is due for a thorough dressing down from me at the count on 22nd May. I've never met the man yet he seems to be an expert on me and my life. A bit like some people on this website. Strange phenomenon. As for the Daily Mail; load of scaremongering rubbish written by lefties to wind up righties. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -8

11:05pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

pembury53 wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade.

Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it?

I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs.

Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does.
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....[/p][/quote]Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade. Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it? I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs. Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -4

11:06pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
By the way Richie-

Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn.

SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!!
Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ
usual leftie whitewash and dissembling...
[quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: By the way Richie- Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn. SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!![/p][/quote]Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ[/p][/quote]usual leftie whitewash and dissembling... Kim Gandy
  • Score: -2

11:19pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
This is england, fit-in or f**k-off
What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.
If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day
I have already been classed a fascist by the left-wing filth, some of which inhabits this very website. From them, I take it as a compliment because then I know I've rattled their cages.

Anyone who votes Labour in ANY election is asking for trouble and is in serious need of having their head plugged in to the National Grid. Perhaps a few thousand volts might wake them up to reality.

Dangerous, obnoxious and as I have said before, in their 13 year reign of terror, inflicted more damage on this country than Hitler could have dreamed of. I said that on this website a few weeks ago and a local Labour councillor went into overdrive, writing total cr@p to my friends, trying to dictate to them about how they conduct their friendships with me. Then he went loopy on his Tw@tter page dredging up a load of old rubbish about me that has been touted by the extreme loony element of the deranged uber-left groups Hope Not Hate and some nutters who call themselves "EDLnews".

All are braindead yoghurt knitters who are in serious need of hosing down with carbolic. (Why do lefties always look like an unmade bed and often smell like a rugby player's jockstrap.)

Try going to the next full council meeting at Basildon and watch the Labour group in action. It's the politics of the barnyard, although farmyard animals have more manners, finesse and common sense.

In Victorian times such imbeciles were relegated to a freak show at the local circus.
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: This is england, fit-in or f**k-off[/p][/quote]What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.[/p][/quote]If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day[/p][/quote]I have already been classed a fascist by the left-wing filth, some of which inhabits this very website. From them, I take it as a compliment because then I know I've rattled their cages. Anyone who votes Labour in ANY election is asking for trouble and is in serious need of having their head plugged in to the National Grid. Perhaps a few thousand volts might wake them up to reality. Dangerous, obnoxious and as I have said before, in their 13 year reign of terror, inflicted more damage on this country than Hitler could have dreamed of. I said that on this website a few weeks ago and a local Labour councillor went into overdrive, writing total cr@p to my friends, trying to dictate to them about how they conduct their friendships with me. Then he went loopy on his Tw@tter page dredging up a load of old rubbish about me that has been touted by the extreme loony element of the deranged uber-left groups Hope Not Hate and some nutters who call themselves "EDLnews". All are braindead yoghurt knitters who are in serious need of hosing down with carbolic. (Why do lefties always look like an unmade bed and often smell like a rugby player's jockstrap.) Try going to the next full council meeting at Basildon and watch the Labour group in action. It's the politics of the barnyard, although farmyard animals have more manners, finesse and common sense. In Victorian times such imbeciles were relegated to a freak show at the local circus. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -3

11:20pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
Don't kids play with gollies these days?
Only if they've had a full blown lecture on racism first by some hairy armpitted leftie with an aversion to the word "black".
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: Don't kids play with gollies these days?[/p][/quote]Only if they've had a full blown lecture on racism first by some hairy armpitted leftie with an aversion to the word "black". Kim Gandy
  • Score: 5

8:08am Mon 24 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

our brothers can you spare a semtex waistcoat for little johnny's role play?
our brothers can you spare a semtex waistcoat for little johnny's role play? profondo asbo
  • Score: 8

8:53am Mon 24 Mar 14

yagetme says...

Sensible Man wrote:
How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah.

Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party.

As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in.

Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy? yagetme
  • Score: 6

9:06am Mon 24 Mar 14

yagetme says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
By the way Richie-

Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn.

SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!!
Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ
usual leftie whitewash and dissembling...
He has a point, what is this 'English Culture'?

I'm still young so I don't have memories of England before all this American stuff appeared.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: By the way Richie- Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn. SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!![/p][/quote]Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ[/p][/quote]usual leftie whitewash and dissembling...[/p][/quote]He has a point, what is this 'English Culture'? I'm still young so I don't have memories of England before all this American stuff appeared. yagetme
  • Score: -4

9:37am Mon 24 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

pembury53 wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
I love how most of the people laying into immigration on here can't spell or use the English language themselves... (not picking on you specifically, Pembury - there were a few posts beforehand and then I just felt compelled to quote!).

Here are some spelling suggestions for people:

'Arithmatic' should be spelled 'arithmetic'
'Forest' should be spelled 'forest'
'immagrants' should be spelled 'immigrants'...

*Sigh...*
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....[/p][/quote]I love how most of the people laying into immigration on here can't spell or use the English language themselves... (not picking on you specifically, Pembury - there were a few posts beforehand and then I just felt compelled to quote!). Here are some spelling suggestions for people: 'Arithmatic' should be spelled 'arithmetic' 'Forest' should be spelled 'forest' 'immagrants' should be spelled 'immigrants'... *Sigh...* DannyK86
  • Score: 6

9:44am Mon 24 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British.

Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London.

Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right.
I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British. Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London. Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right. DannyK86
  • Score: 11

9:51am Mon 24 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

DannyK86 wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
I love how most of the people laying into immigration on here can't spell or use the English language themselves... (not picking on you specifically, Pembury - there were a few posts beforehand and then I just felt compelled to quote!).

Here are some spelling suggestions for people:

'Arithmatic' should be spelled 'arithmetic'
'Forest' should be spelled 'forest'
'immagrants' should be spelled 'immigrants'...

*Sigh...*
Of course I meant 'Forrest' in the example... oops.
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....[/p][/quote]I love how most of the people laying into immigration on here can't spell or use the English language themselves... (not picking on you specifically, Pembury - there were a few posts beforehand and then I just felt compelled to quote!). Here are some spelling suggestions for people: 'Arithmatic' should be spelled 'arithmetic' 'Forest' should be spelled 'forest' 'immagrants' should be spelled 'immigrants'... *Sigh...*[/p][/quote]Of course I meant 'Forrest' in the example... oops. DannyK86
  • Score: 0

10:01am Mon 24 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

yagetme wrote:
Sensible Man wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?
Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter.

A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described:

“We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.”

They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection.
I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?[/p][/quote]Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view? cg1blue
  • Score: 13

10:23am Mon 24 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

DannyK86 wrote:
I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British. Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London. Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right.
This is exactly how immigration can be a success, i.e. immigrants integrating into British culture and society.
[quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British. Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London. Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right.[/p][/quote]This is exactly how immigration can be a success, i.e. immigrants integrating into British culture and society. cg1blue
  • Score: 1

10:53am Mon 24 Mar 14

andy:) says...

The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story. andy:)
  • Score: -5

11:49am Mon 24 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

I wonder if the people from OFSTED actually ask the people from different cultural backgrounds what they want. Among my closest friends are people with Indian, Chinese and West Indian heritage. They all tell me they are quite embarrassed by incidents like the one at Rascals Childcare. In fact one of them told me they find actions like this quite patronising.
I wonder if the people from OFSTED actually ask the people from different cultural backgrounds what they want. Among my closest friends are people with Indian, Chinese and West Indian heritage. They all tell me they are quite embarrassed by incidents like the one at Rascals Childcare. In fact one of them told me they find actions like this quite patronising. cg1blue
  • Score: 17

12:34pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Alekhine says...

andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture. Alekhine
  • Score: 17

1:38pm Mon 24 Mar 14

pembury53 says...

cg1blue wrote:
DannyK86 wrote: I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British. Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London. Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right.
This is exactly how immigration can be a success, i.e. immigrants integrating into British culture and society.
and in a nut shell your post exposes the great immigration myth.....if we need immigrants to fix tanks, work in the NHS, program computers or whatever skill shortage is identified then so be it, they can answer the relevant job advertisment and apply to get a job here........ what that has to do with mass immigration where basically millions, often without skills, education, english language or any other good reason we might want them here, can decide to bolster our population rapidly towards 70M is beyond me.... if you needed a lodger, to help with your bills, would it be ok if 15 of his/her relatives turned up ?
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DannyK86[/bold] wrote: I do think it's unfair to paint all immigrants with the same brush. My Grandfather came from Poland during the war - he helped fix British tanks in the desert war in North Africa, and then came over here, got a job as an engineer, worked hard, married locally and we would all consider ourselves very much British. Give a lot of the more recent migrants time, and it'll be the same. What does need to be done is to promote better integration into British culture and way of life, and prevent certain communities self-segregating, as you see in places like Bradford, Birmingham and parts of East London. Immigration can and does benefit society and the economy - you only have to look at the USA to see that - it just needs to be handled right.[/p][/quote]This is exactly how immigration can be a success, i.e. immigrants integrating into British culture and society.[/p][/quote]and in a nut shell your post exposes the great immigration myth.....if we need immigrants to fix tanks, work in the NHS, program computers or whatever skill shortage is identified then so be it, they can answer the relevant job advertisment and apply to get a job here........ what that has to do with mass immigration where basically millions, often without skills, education, english language or any other good reason we might want them here, can decide to bolster our population rapidly towards 70M is beyond me.... if you needed a lodger, to help with your bills, would it be ok if 15 of his/her relatives turned up ? pembury53
  • Score: 9

1:45pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Mattster says...

cg1blue wrote:
I wonder if the people from OFSTED actually ask the people from different cultural backgrounds what they want. Among my closest friends are people with Indian, Chinese and West Indian heritage. They all tell me they are quite embarrassed by incidents like the one at Rascals Childcare. In fact one of them told me they find actions like this quite patronising.
Well exactly, tokenism is just as bad.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: I wonder if the people from OFSTED actually ask the people from different cultural backgrounds what they want. Among my closest friends are people with Indian, Chinese and West Indian heritage. They all tell me they are quite embarrassed by incidents like the one at Rascals Childcare. In fact one of them told me they find actions like this quite patronising.[/p][/quote]Well exactly, tokenism is just as bad. Mattster
  • Score: 8

2:00pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

I hope everyone will have a look at the article in the Yorkshire Evening Post regarding the City Of Leeds School. This establishment has now decided to teach English As A Foreign / Second Language to ALL its pupils - including those who are British-born -because.... well - make your own mind up.

It seems that the Lefties Nirvana is approaching even quicker than expected.
I hope everyone will have a look at the article in the Yorkshire Evening Post regarding the City Of Leeds School. This establishment has now decided to teach English As A Foreign / Second Language to ALL its pupils - including those who are British-born -because.... well - make your own mind up. It seems that the Lefties Nirvana is approaching even quicker than expected. Sensible Man
  • Score: 15

2:08pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Ha Ha - Game, Set, and Match to Alekhine.

But of course that is the way with so many lefties - they either try to stifle debate or- once they have lost the argument - come out shrieking those most overused of words - racist or fascist.
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Ha Ha - Game, Set, and Match to Alekhine. But of course that is the way with so many lefties - they either try to stifle debate or- once they have lost the argument - come out shrieking those most overused of words - racist or fascist. Sensible Man
  • Score: 4

4:34pm Mon 24 Mar 14

andy:) says...

I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature..

Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.
I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have. andy:)
  • Score: -3

4:49pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Letmetryagain says...

Ofsted are a law unto themselves.

One or two schools in the area have received glowing Ofsted reports, which
have even confounded the teachers working there. When they expected to fail miserably
Then of course the reverse also happens.

All hail to the God of Ofsted.
Ofsted are a law unto themselves. One or two schools in the area have received glowing Ofsted reports, which have even confounded the teachers working there. When they expected to fail miserably Then of course the reverse also happens. All hail to the God of Ofsted. Letmetryagain
  • Score: 6

5:50pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Alekhine says...

andy:) wrote:
I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.
Like the Guardian perhaps?

Cast your mind back to the Labour years and you will see the immigration comments feature was turned off for 10 years. That did not help Gordon Brown much when he tried to interview a real person during his election campaign. The audacity of one of the proles to bring up immigration as a subject that might affect their vote! How he regrets not turning off the in-car microphone afterwards. (Google bigotgate for details).

Back on topic, I can assure you that the right do not have a monopoly on bad taste comments here or anywhere else. How about taking part in the discussion? You could start by telling us what a "multicultural resource in the role play area" is and why a 3 year old would miss it?
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.[/p][/quote]Like the Guardian perhaps? Cast your mind back to the Labour years and you will see the immigration comments feature was turned off for 10 years. That did not help Gordon Brown much when he tried to interview a real person during his election campaign. The audacity of one of the proles to bring up immigration as a subject that might affect their vote! How he regrets not turning off the in-car microphone afterwards. (Google bigotgate for details). Back on topic, I can assure you that the right do not have a monopoly on bad taste comments here or anywhere else. How about taking part in the discussion? You could start by telling us what a "multicultural resource in the role play area" is and why a 3 year old would miss it? Alekhine
  • Score: 8

7:06pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
This is england, fit-in or f**k-off
What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.
If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day
Weasel words!
[quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: This is england, fit-in or f**k-off[/p][/quote]What an excellent post. Not the language I would have chosen- but the sentiment is spot on. Can you imagine if ever again - HEAVEN FORBID - we were to have a filthy Labour Government? We would be arrested if we did not grovel to the joys of a multi-cultural, inclusive society. Disagree? You would be classed a fascist by the left-wing filth.[/p][/quote]If labour ever got in i'd prob hang myself the same day[/p][/quote]Weasel words! ThisYear
  • Score: -3

7:10pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade.

Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it?

I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs.

Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does.
"Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade."

Thats because even your own 'sort' dislike you! lol
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....[/p][/quote]Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade. Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it? I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs. Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does.[/p][/quote]"Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade." Thats because even your own 'sort' dislike you! lol ThisYear
  • Score: 0

7:15pm Mon 24 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.
Like the Guardian perhaps?

Cast your mind back to the Labour years and you will see the immigration comments feature was turned off for 10 years. That did not help Gordon Brown much when he tried to interview a real person during his election campaign. The audacity of one of the proles to bring up immigration as a subject that might affect their vote! How he regrets not turning off the in-car microphone afterwards. (Google bigotgate for details).

Back on topic, I can assure you that the right do not have a monopoly on bad taste comments here or anywhere else. How about taking part in the discussion? You could start by telling us what a "multicultural resource in the role play area" is and why a 3 year old would miss it?
spot on. stifle the debate and take away our democratic right and you get extremism. fervent debate is healthy because it acts as a pressure valve so long as it doesn't step in to incitement it's all good in my book. clearly there is a section of society that is afraid of debate - suggest they close the laptops down and unplug the router
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.[/p][/quote]Like the Guardian perhaps? Cast your mind back to the Labour years and you will see the immigration comments feature was turned off for 10 years. That did not help Gordon Brown much when he tried to interview a real person during his election campaign. The audacity of one of the proles to bring up immigration as a subject that might affect their vote! How he regrets not turning off the in-car microphone afterwards. (Google bigotgate for details). Back on topic, I can assure you that the right do not have a monopoly on bad taste comments here or anywhere else. How about taking part in the discussion? You could start by telling us what a "multicultural resource in the role play area" is and why a 3 year old would miss it?[/p][/quote]spot on. stifle the debate and take away our democratic right and you get extremism. fervent debate is healthy because it acts as a pressure valve so long as it doesn't step in to incitement it's all good in my book. clearly there is a section of society that is afraid of debate - suggest they close the laptops down and unplug the router profondo asbo
  • Score: 7

7:17pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist! ThisYear
  • Score: -4

7:24pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Sensible Man says...

ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please? Sensible Man
  • Score: 2

7:28pm Mon 24 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down. profondo asbo
  • Score: 6

8:42pm Mon 24 Mar 14

shay321 says...

Ofsted should just F...off....if the kids are happy, the staff are happy and the parents are happy then who the hell gives a toss what OFSTED think...I would not even look at an Ofsted report before deciding where my kids should go...
Ofsted should just F...off....if the kids are happy, the staff are happy and the parents are happy then who the hell gives a toss what OFSTED think...I would not even look at an Ofsted report before deciding where my kids should go... shay321
  • Score: 8

9:20pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Mattster says...

andy:) wrote:
I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature..

Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.
Cant see anything bad enough to warrant wholesale removal, a few comments in bad taste perhaps but anything is offensive to someone somewhere.
[quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: I agree, freedom of speech is an essential part of our country however stories like this normally end up in racist insults and threats (you'll see some above) so its quite wise that for certain stories the Echo turns off the comments feature.. Its nothing about being a leftie or stifling debate or losing the argument, in fact if you read above you will see that the most sensisble comments come from people supporting immigration and mixing of cultures, the ones opposing it are just the usual extreme right-wing idiots. I blog on many forums and discuss many topics online but most sites have admins that remove offensive comments which the Echo doesn't appear to have.[/p][/quote]Cant see anything bad enough to warrant wholesale removal, a few comments in bad taste perhaps but anything is offensive to someone somewhere. Mattster
  • Score: 3

9:35pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say. Alekhine
  • Score: 6

9:44pm Mon 24 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
pembury53 wrote:
LinfordsLunchbox wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
BIRLIS -

Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so.

Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!!
Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education.

The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree.

Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?
So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta
exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....
Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade.

Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it?

I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs.

Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does.
got thumbs down?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LinfordsLunchbox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: BIRLIS - Would I be right in assuming that you are a lifelong Labour supporter? Yes - I thought so. Is your beloved "melting pot" necessarily such a good thing? . Now - exactly what benefits have mass immigration / multi-culturalism brought to this country?? Well - strike me down with a feather - I can't think of any!!??!![/p][/quote]Culture, cuisine, music, science innovations, strengthened the countries workforce, sports, education. The whole of Great Britain and populace is built historically on foreigners. None of us can claim to be 100% British if we stare too long at the family tree. Just to clarify, when you refer to migrants, you mean non-white?[/p][/quote]So cos we like a curry and some saxons came here when britain was a forrest we should embrace unsustainable numbers of people with no interest in our culture and embrace theirs in 2014? No ta[/p][/quote]exactly linford's, spot on..... i think it's hilarious how people try to defend uncontrolled mass immigration with constanf references to things like 'cuisine' and 'shops' or "they put in more than they take out"...... wait until their millions of off-spring add to the unemployment figures and all need health care and school places to see how that particular piece of arithmatic stacks up.....[/p][/quote]Funny, when I express similar sentiments to those expressed by some of the posters above, I get the thumbs down brigade. Shows how folk on this website discriminate doesn't it? I regularly make comments like Linford's and Champkind's albeit a little less controversial but I usually end up having to ignore comments from the likes of "ThisYear" and other nutjobs. Come to think of it, where is TY AKA LL? Perhaps he's changing his nets having worn out the last lot from all the curtain twitching he does.[/p][/quote]got thumbs down? profondo asbo
  • Score: 4

10:21pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

yagetme wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
Richy don't shine shoes no more wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
By the way Richie-

Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn.

SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!!
Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ
usual leftie whitewash and dissembling...
He has a point, what is this 'English Culture'?

I'm still young so I don't have memories of England before all this American stuff appeared.
Then you can't contradict me can you?

I saw it, you didn't. Can't help history.

You can still see it in old films and newspaper and magazines - not to mention literature.
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Richy don't shine shoes no more[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: By the way Richie- Please post SPECIFIC and CLEAR examples of how our "culture", "science innovations", and "education" have been improved by immigration / multi-culturalism. EXACT examples please, not vague left-wing waffle as to how it has engaged/ embraced/ challenged/ included / blah blah blah / yawn yawn yawn. SCOTLAND TO VOTE YES - BYE BYE LABOUR!!!!![/p][/quote]Only after you give me some figures to back up yours. Also define what you mean by English culture because opinions clearly differ[/p][/quote]usual leftie whitewash and dissembling...[/p][/quote]He has a point, what is this 'English Culture'? I'm still young so I don't have memories of England before all this American stuff appeared.[/p][/quote]Then you can't contradict me can you? I saw it, you didn't. Can't help history. You can still see it in old films and newspaper and magazines - not to mention literature. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

9:08am Tue 25 Mar 14

Kim Gandy says...

I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing.

Far from it upsetting me, I see it as a job well done. If I have spoiled just one minute of your day enough for you to whack the thumbs down button, I have achieved something. At least I know you are taking notice because you cannot ignore me. You know I am right but you can't admit it.

I'm glad to see the Echo published my letter on this subject as it's something I feel strongly about. More than that, it's something most decent, right thinking people feel strongly about too, not least the parents and staff at the nursery.

The only hope we have left of being a fair and equal society where everybody's opinions count, is by exposing the evil machinations of the fascist Left who think only they have the answer to everything and everybody else is wrong and is to be shouted down merely for opposing them.

There are plenty of us out there who are out to question the motivations of those who would appoint themselves as moral guardians, of which this story is a perfect example.

;D
I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing. Far from it upsetting me, I see it as a job well done. If I have spoiled just one minute of your day enough for you to whack the thumbs down button, I have achieved something. At least I know you are taking notice because you cannot ignore me. You know I am right but you can't admit it. I'm glad to see the Echo published my letter on this subject as it's something I feel strongly about. More than that, it's something most decent, right thinking people feel strongly about too, not least the parents and staff at the nursery. The only hope we have left of being a fair and equal society where everybody's opinions count, is by exposing the evil machinations of the fascist Left who think only they have the answer to everything and everybody else is wrong and is to be shouted down merely for opposing them. There are plenty of us out there who are out to question the motivations of those who would appoint themselves as moral guardians, of which this story is a perfect example. ;D Kim Gandy
  • Score: -2

12:52pm Tue 25 Mar 14

twoforone says...

My child attended this nursery from the age of two until starting school and still attends their after school / holiday club and Nicky and her staff are absolutely brilliant. The real problem they now have is that any perspective parent looking for a place to send their child will look at the Ofsted headline of “requires improvement” and immediately discount it. Are nursery children (which is from the age of 2 to 4) really going to grow up being bigoted because they weren’t aware that any other cultures existed, GET REAL. Children learn about our multicultural society once they start school and see it on a day to day basis and learn from those around them. Let children be children and make them grow up too fast…..
My child attended this nursery from the age of two until starting school and still attends their after school / holiday club and Nicky and her staff are absolutely brilliant. The real problem they now have is that any perspective parent looking for a place to send their child will look at the Ofsted headline of “requires improvement” and immediately discount it. Are nursery children (which is from the age of 2 to 4) really going to grow up being bigoted because they weren’t aware that any other cultures existed, GET REAL. Children learn about our multicultural society once they start school and see it on a day to day basis and learn from those around them. Let children be children and make them grow up too fast….. twoforone
  • Score: 13

12:54pm Tue 25 Mar 14

twoforone says...

should have read "not make them grow up too fast"
should have read "not make them grow up too fast" twoforone
  • Score: 5

2:14pm Tue 25 Mar 14

A Pedant says...

"I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing."

Has it ever occured to you that people thumb down your comments because you are seen as only marginally less irritating, rabid and ranting than This Year (or whatever he's called this week)?
"I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing." Has it ever occured to you that people thumb down your comments because you are seen as only marginally less irritating, rabid and ranting than This Year (or whatever he's called this week)? A Pedant
  • Score: 4

7:01pm Tue 25 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

A Pedant wrote:
"I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing."

Has it ever occured to you that people thumb down your comments because you are seen as only marginally less irritating, rabid and ranting than This Year (or whatever he's called this week)?
You feel people thumb me down because of my personality not my defense of different cultures?

"Oh how the human will conspire to deceive itself"

Now you know what you imply isn't the truth dont you.
[quote][p][bold]A Pedant[/bold] wrote: "I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing." Has it ever occured to you that people thumb down your comments because you are seen as only marginally less irritating, rabid and ranting than This Year (or whatever he's called this week)?[/p][/quote]You feel people thumb me down because of my personality not my defense of different cultures? "Oh how the human will conspire to deceive itself" Now you know what you imply isn't the truth dont you. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

7:04pm Tue 25 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.
Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you?

I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist..

Sad sack.
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.[/p][/quote]Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

7:06pm Tue 25 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that? ThisYear
  • Score: -5

7:14pm Tue 25 Mar 14

yagetme says...

cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Sensible Man wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?
Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter.

A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described:

“We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.”

They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection.
I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?
For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well.

Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that.

As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?[/p][/quote]Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?[/p][/quote]For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well. Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that. As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned. yagetme
  • Score: 5

10:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
you just got another thread shut down. who is the liar?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]you just got another thread shut down. who is the liar? profondo asbo
  • Score: 5

8:26am Wed 26 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

yagetme wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Sensible Man wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?
Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?
For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well. Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that. As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned.
"For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well."

Genius :)
[quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?[/p][/quote]Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?[/p][/quote]For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well. Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that. As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]"For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well." Genius :) cg1blue
  • Score: 2

8:52am Wed 26 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here?
Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why?
I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not. cg1blue
  • Score: 6

5:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

profondo asbo wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote:
The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
you just got another thread shut down. who is the liar?
Did I? Who told you that? Perhaps they are the liar you refer to.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]you just got another thread shut down. who is the liar?[/p][/quote]Did I? Who told you that? Perhaps they are the liar you refer to. ThisYear
  • Score: -3

5:12pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
yagetme wrote:
Sensible Man wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!!
You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?
Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?
For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well. Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that. As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned.
"For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well."

Genius :)
If you consider that suggestion as 'Genius' then that really does point to your level of intelligence..but then you give such a pointer every time you post..so no surprise really.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yagetme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: How much do these OFSTED people get paid for coming out with this rubbish? Do the lefties who work for these Labour-loving quangos get paid a bonus everytime they use the words diversity, multi-culturalism, inclusive, challenge, engage, stakeholder, blah blah blah. Richy - I get far more laughs from the politically correct rubbish so many lefties come out with. Still - once Scotland is independent and all the Scottish Labour MPs are booted out we can forget about them - as Labour will never have the chance to form a Government again. Oh happy days!!!![/p][/quote]You'd do well to remember that Tony Blair managed a landslide even without the Scottish vote, the loss of 30 odd seats would hardly be the end of the Labour Party. As for mass uncontrolled economic immigration being some left wing instigated conspiracy, I think you'll find that The Conservatives started that particular ball rolling - France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Greece, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Italy and Iceland all opened for immigrant workers and their families under Heath, Thatcher and Major. New Labour simply followed suite and opened more, then you have the current crop of Tories who are once again letting them all in. Please explain (and without referring to newspapers written for children), how this is left wing policy?[/p][/quote]Yagetme, very civilised and thought through comments. However, I think it would be good to steer the conversation back to the subject matter. A very good nursery in Rayleigh attended by happy kids, with excellent feedback from parents etc. has been marked down for not promoting multi-culturism enough, despite them making efforts as described: “We have posters and puzzles depicting other backgrounds, we hand out multicultural food, we just didn’t have all our multicultural posters out in that particular area on the day of the inspection.” They had Chinese new year decorations up during the inspection. I think the general public are quite satisfied with this. What more do you think they should be doing, assuming you are supporting the OFSTED point of view?[/p][/quote]For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well. Pretty sure the kids (and OFSTED) would love that. As already stated by others, Rayleigh is hardly the multicutural epicenter of the UK, and OFSTED's blanket approach to this particular inspection is absurdly unfair. I normally prefer data over opinion but you have quoted shining examples of how the staff embraced the requirements and made more than enough effort to implement them, and more importantly the kids have responded very well. While I think our schools should be monitored on a regular basis by independent inspectors, OFSTED are probably not the ones to do it - major reform or in the bin as far as I'm concerned.[/p][/quote]"For a start they could have built a mosque in the play area, with some swings and a slide on it, maybe stick one of those Spongepants Squarebit things on top of it as well." Genius :)[/p][/quote]If you consider that suggestion as 'Genius' then that really does point to your level of intelligence..but then you give such a pointer every time you post..so no surprise really. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

5:13pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here?
Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why?
I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.[/p][/quote]If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments? ThisYear
  • Score: -3

5:37pm Wed 26 Mar 14

DannyK86 says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing.

Far from it upsetting me, I see it as a job well done. If I have spoiled just one minute of your day enough for you to whack the thumbs down button, I have achieved something. At least I know you are taking notice because you cannot ignore me. You know I am right but you can't admit it.

I'm glad to see the Echo published my letter on this subject as it's something I feel strongly about. More than that, it's something most decent, right thinking people feel strongly about too, not least the parents and staff at the nursery.

The only hope we have left of being a fair and equal society where everybody's opinions count, is by exposing the evil machinations of the fascist Left who think only they have the answer to everything and everybody else is wrong and is to be shouted down merely for opposing them.

There are plenty of us out there who are out to question the motivations of those who would appoint themselves as moral guardians, of which this story is a perfect example.

;D
I don't think it's just lefties thumbs downing you (as other right wing posts get positive votes). It's everybody thumbs downing you, because you come across as an unpleasant, mad, ranting, crazy, belligerent cow. Sorry to be bearer of bad news...
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: I really know when I've got to you lefties, when you start thumbs downing. Far from it upsetting me, I see it as a job well done. If I have spoiled just one minute of your day enough for you to whack the thumbs down button, I have achieved something. At least I know you are taking notice because you cannot ignore me. You know I am right but you can't admit it. I'm glad to see the Echo published my letter on this subject as it's something I feel strongly about. More than that, it's something most decent, right thinking people feel strongly about too, not least the parents and staff at the nursery. The only hope we have left of being a fair and equal society where everybody's opinions count, is by exposing the evil machinations of the fascist Left who think only they have the answer to everything and everybody else is wrong and is to be shouted down merely for opposing them. There are plenty of us out there who are out to question the motivations of those who would appoint themselves as moral guardians, of which this story is a perfect example. ;D[/p][/quote]I don't think it's just lefties thumbs downing you (as other right wing posts get positive votes). It's everybody thumbs downing you, because you come across as an unpleasant, mad, ranting, crazy, belligerent cow. Sorry to be bearer of bad news... DannyK86
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

poortaxpayer says...

I am going to start a company selling OFSTED approved multicultural toys and learning aids to nurseries and schools - I shall make a fortune.
I am going to start a company selling OFSTED approved multicultural toys and learning aids to nurseries and schools - I shall make a fortune. poortaxpayer
  • Score: 7

6:08pm Wed 26 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?
So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments.
I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.[/p][/quote]If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?[/p][/quote]So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments. I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not. cg1blue
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.
Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.
I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..

Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED.

As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.[/p][/quote]Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.[/p][/quote]I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist.. Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED. As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder. Alekhine
  • Score: 5

8:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?
So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments.
I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.
Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem..

Do I have a view on the issue?

Yes

Will a tell you what that is?

No

Next question.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.[/p][/quote]If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?[/p][/quote]So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments. I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.[/p][/quote]Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem.. Do I have a view on the issue? Yes Will a tell you what that is? No Next question. ThisYear
  • Score: -6

9:05pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.
Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.
I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..

Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED.

As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder.
The fact you inferred what you thought I implied (note the sequence the terms are used in) is your problem...the same way you had the problem with "implying" what you thought I was "inferring".....LOL.
..remember that...what an idiot you made of yourself and then doubled it, by saying you were only pretending you didn't know the difference between implying and inferring...you prize pillock...hahahaha
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.[/p][/quote]Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.[/p][/quote]I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist.. Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED. As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder.[/p][/quote]The fact you inferred what you thought I implied (note the sequence the terms are used in) is your problem...the same way you had the problem with "implying" what you thought I was "inferring".....LOL. ..remember that...what an idiot you made of yourself and then doubled it, by saying you were only pretending you didn't know the difference between implying and inferring...you prize pillock...hahahaha ThisYear
  • Score: -5

9:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?
So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments.
I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.
Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem..

Do I have a view on the issue?

Yes

Will a tell you what that is?

No

Next question.
Now i'm not sure if you're a spoilt 12 year old kid, or a bitter and twisted loner. If it's the latter, i hope the police are monitoring your movements....

Jokes aside, i thought you could hold a reasoned debate. Now i just pity you
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.[/p][/quote]If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?[/p][/quote]So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments. I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.[/p][/quote]Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem.. Do I have a view on the issue? Yes Will a tell you what that is? No Next question.[/p][/quote]Now i'm not sure if you're a spoilt 12 year old kid, or a bitter and twisted loner. If it's the latter, i hope the police are monitoring your movements.... Jokes aside, i thought you could hold a reasoned debate. Now i just pity you cg1blue
  • Score: 6

8:46pm Thu 27 Mar 14

ThisYear says...

cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
cg1blue wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Sensible Man wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?
because he gets the thread shut down.
Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?
ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.
If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?
So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments.
I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.
Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem..

Do I have a view on the issue?

Yes

Will a tell you what that is?

No

Next question.
Now i'm not sure if you're a spoilt 12 year old kid, or a bitter and twisted loner. If it's the latter, i hope the police are monitoring your movements....

Jokes aside, i thought you could hold a reasoned debate. Now i just pity you
The hypocrisy of your post is astounding...self-pi
ty on your case can be warranted...go for it.
[quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cg1blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]That is a bit enigmatic This Year - can you clarify, please?[/p][/quote]because he gets the thread shut down.[/p][/quote]Now that isn't true is it asbo...why would you deem it correct to lie like that?[/p][/quote]ThisYear, are you going to make any comments about the actual story here? Do you think OFSTED's actions were fair and correct, and if so, why? I'm curious to hear how those actions could be justified. And I know you defend any story related to minorities, irrespective of whether it's right or not.[/p][/quote]If you "know" what I do then why bother asking me for comments?[/p][/quote]So you have no view on this story? If so I'm not sure why you're posting any comments. I'm interested to hear all views, whether I agree with them or not.[/p][/quote]Why I post is of no concern of yours..if you think it is then thats your problem.. Do I have a view on the issue? Yes Will a tell you what that is? No Next question.[/p][/quote]Now i'm not sure if you're a spoilt 12 year old kid, or a bitter and twisted loner. If it's the latter, i hope the police are monitoring your movements.... Jokes aside, i thought you could hold a reasoned debate. Now i just pity you[/p][/quote]The hypocrisy of your post is astounding...self-pi ty on your case can be warranted...go for it. ThisYear
  • Score: -5

9:08pm Thu 27 Mar 14

profondo asbo says...

got handbags?
got handbags? profondo asbo
  • Score: 3

9:42pm Thu 27 Mar 14

cg1blue says...

profondo asbo wrote:
got handbags?
Haha :)
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: got handbags?[/p][/quote]Haha :) cg1blue
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10:26am Fri 28 Mar 14

Alekhine says...

ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
andy:) wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.
Freedom of speech is part of our culture.
Except..it doesn't exist!
You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.
Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.
I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..

Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED.

As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder.
The fact you inferred what you thought I implied (note the sequence the terms are used in) is your problem...the same way you had the problem with "implying" what you thought I was "inferring".....LOL.

..remember that...what an idiot you made of yourself and then doubled it, by saying you were only pretending you didn't know the difference between implying and inferring...you prize pillock...hahahaha
I'm not sure anybody here know or cares what you are talking about.

But it did take 3 days for you to NOT work it out. Another poster had to tell you that you were right. As for all the other posters who piled in without checking themselves, well, it serves you right for being so popular - and it did give me a bit of a chuckle.

How the years have flown. Do you want a spinning bow tie to go with that clowns nose?
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy:)[/bold] wrote: The usual racist UKIP/Tory loving claptrap you expect on here, perhaps this should of been a 'no comments' story.[/p][/quote]Freedom of speech is part of our culture.[/p][/quote]Except..it doesn't exist![/p][/quote]You have form on this particular line of attack. Our culture certainly does exist. What a racist thing to say.[/p][/quote]Oh dear..the strawman accusation..you really are a barrel scraper aren't you? I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist..and you, dribbling with excitement, take that to mean culture doesn't exist.. Sad sack.[/p][/quote]I state "freedom of speech" doesn't exist.. Err, no you didn't. Do you not have the schooling to read your own post or properly write down your splutterings? Second thoughts, that is a silly question as your lack of schooling explains your zero interest in an article about OFSTED. As the tories would put it, you are not a stakeholder.[/p][/quote]The fact you inferred what you thought I implied (note the sequence the terms are used in) is your problem...the same way you had the problem with "implying" what you thought I was "inferring".....LOL. ..remember that...what an idiot you made of yourself and then doubled it, by saying you were only pretending you didn't know the difference between implying and inferring...you prize pillock...hahahaha[/p][/quote]I'm not sure anybody here know or cares what you are talking about. But it did take 3 days for you to NOT work it out. Another poster had to tell you that you were right. As for all the other posters who piled in without checking themselves, well, it serves you right for being so popular - and it did give me a bit of a chuckle. How the years have flown. Do you want a spinning bow tie to go with that clowns nose? Alekhine
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4:57pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Letmetryagain says...

It just shows that parents who want to send their children to a particular school or Nursery should ignore Ofsted reports, and talk to other parents or the teachers for their views.
It just shows that parents who want to send their children to a particular school or Nursery should ignore Ofsted reports, and talk to other parents or the teachers for their views. Letmetryagain
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