Family still in temporary home 9 months after Felmores house burned down

Echo: Nine months waiting – mum and dad, Deborah and Paul Wilson, with children Beth, 13, Sarah, seven months, Amy, nine, and Lucy, seven in their ‘temporary’ home Nine months waiting – mum and dad, Deborah and Paul Wilson, with children Beth, 13, Sarah, seven months, Amy, nine, and Lucy, seven in their ‘temporary’ home

A FAMILY of seven are stuck in temporary accommodation nearly nine months after a blaze forced them to flee their home.

Paul and Deborah Wilson, and their five children, have still not moved back into their house in Bockingham Green, Pitsea, despite Basildon Council telling them repairs would only take three months.

It was later extended to six months, but the family are still living in temporary accommodation in Winstree, just across the road from Bockingham Green.

Their home was one of six which were ruled uninhabitable following the blaze in July.

It was sparked by a chip pan fire next door to the Wilsons, and spread through the timberframed homes.

Mr Wilson, 34, an engineer, said: “When the house caught fire, we had to stay at my mum’s for a month because it took the council so long to sort something out. There are seven of us, so it was quite a squeeze.

“We were happy they found us somewhere, but when your house catches fire because it is made of wood, the last thing you want is to be moved into another property which is the same.

“The council has not said much to us, so we just want to know what is going on. We were told the damage wasn’t too bad, so I don’t understand why the work is taking so long. There are houses being built behind us in Winstree which have already got roofs on after a few months.”

Other residents affected by the blaze have moved back, but the house where the fire started still remains uninhabitable.

The Wilsons are also the latest family to be caught out by a new council tax policy.

They have been asked to pay £600 towards council tax on the Bockingham Green home on top of the full amount of £1,200 for the Winstree property, although the council is looking into whether it can remove the charge.

Basildon Council said it hoped the Wilsons would be able to return home soon.

A spokesman said: “Internal works are complete, but the council’s contractors are installing a sprinkler system.

“It is anticipated the installation of the sprinkler system will be completed within the next two weeks."

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1:15pm Wed 16 Apr 14

I-say-you-say says...

Let the Council move them back in to an unsafe property that's not had the repairs finished if they want to be that ungrateful! See how long it takes them to have something real to complain about then!

You have a roof over your head (which some people don't even have!), your old home (which you don't even own) is going to be better and safer than before at no cost to you and you can do nothing but moan about it taking a couple of months longer than anticipated.

As for the Council Tax, there was a story the other day of another woman fighting this and being let off, perhaps rather than expecting everything handed to you on a plate, stop running to the papers and showing yourself up as the ungrateful people you are and try sorting yourself out.
Let the Council move them back in to an unsafe property that's not had the repairs finished if they want to be that ungrateful! See how long it takes them to have something real to complain about then! You have a roof over your head (which some people don't even have!), your old home (which you don't even own) is going to be better and safer than before at no cost to you and you can do nothing but moan about it taking a couple of months longer than anticipated. As for the Council Tax, there was a story the other day of another woman fighting this and being let off, perhaps rather than expecting everything handed to you on a plate, stop running to the papers and showing yourself up as the ungrateful people you are and try sorting yourself out. I-say-you-say
  • Score: 12

1:18pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Jack222 says...

I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either.

The rest of us have to work for our property...
I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property... Jack222
  • Score: 10

2:57pm Wed 16 Apr 14

emcee says...

Jack222 wrote:
I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either.

The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance.

Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels.
The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety. emcee
  • Score: 55

3:17pm Wed 16 Apr 14

CarnMountification says...

At least they are in a brick house, and not a tent.
At least they are in a brick house, and not a tent. CarnMountification
  • Score: -3

4:10pm Wed 16 Apr 14

poortaxpayer says...

Move them into a caravan - I know of some empty plots they an move to.
Move them into a caravan - I know of some empty plots they an move to. poortaxpayer
  • Score: -2

4:14pm Wed 16 Apr 14

runwellian says...

Why don't the council allow then to stay where they are then re rent their old home to a new family when it has been repaired, makes sense to me!
Why don't the council allow then to stay where they are then re rent their old home to a new family when it has been repaired, makes sense to me! runwellian
  • Score: -2

4:25pm Wed 16 Apr 14

I-say-you-say says...

emcee wrote:
Jack222 wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
The Council have completed their legal obligation by providing them with temporary accomodation while the free repairs and improvements are being carried out.

I agree that the cause of them having to be moved out is not their fault, but it wasn't the Council's fault either and yet there they are doing everything they can to sort it out.

They have no entitlement to whinge (refer to my original post about everything they are getting, improvements etc). Their "day to day" existence has been under a roof, in a warm, secure property. Apart from having to move across the road to a nicely refurbished property, I can't see what uncertainty or stress/anxiety this would cause and how it's the fault of the council?!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.[/p][/quote]The Council have completed their legal obligation by providing them with temporary accomodation while the free repairs and improvements are being carried out. I agree that the cause of them having to be moved out is not their fault, but it wasn't the Council's fault either and yet there they are doing everything they can to sort it out. They have no entitlement to whinge (refer to my original post about everything they are getting, improvements etc). Their "day to day" existence has been under a roof, in a warm, secure property. Apart from having to move across the road to a nicely refurbished property, I can't see what uncertainty or stress/anxiety this would cause and how it's the fault of the council?! I-say-you-say
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4:31pm Wed 16 Apr 14

debbie81 says...

can i just say this is not what we went to the paper for our point was we have not heard anything from council about the house we went to paper about council tax
can i just say this is not what we went to the paper for our point was we have not heard anything from council about the house we went to paper about council tax debbie81
  • Score: 3

4:32pm Wed 16 Apr 14

debbie81 says...

and we had been to council to try and sort council tax out and they are not moving saying we have to pay for both houses
and we had been to council to try and sort council tax out and they are not moving saying we have to pay for both houses debbie81
  • Score: 3

5:14pm Wed 16 Apr 14

ShaniCasanova says...

I'm sorry but be grateful you have a home too live in there are many people out there who would and could have a place too stay but are unable too have it so be happy with what you have got! Instead off what you lost!
I'm sorry but be grateful you have a home too live in there are many people out there who would and could have a place too stay but are unable too have it so be happy with what you have got! Instead off what you lost! ShaniCasanova
  • Score: 2

5:28pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jameskerin says...

Im disgusted by some comments on here. Have people no remorse? This poor family had their house burnt down for christ sake.

As for Jack222 with your pointless comment anout working. How do you know if they are working or not? Not everyone in a council home is a dole dosser. We dont all have mummy and daddy to throw money at us to give us a nice deposit for a home
Im disgusted by some comments on here. Have people no remorse? This poor family had their house burnt down for christ sake. As for Jack222 with your pointless comment anout working. How do you know if they are working or not? Not everyone in a council home is a dole dosser. We dont all have mummy and daddy to throw money at us to give us a nice deposit for a home jameskerin
  • Score: 13

6:55pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Almeda11 says...

emcee wrote:
Jack222 wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
Emcee
l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position.
Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family.
All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.[/p][/quote]Emcee l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position. Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family. All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !! Almeda11
  • Score: 11

7:05pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Almeda11 says...

emcee wrote:
Jack222 wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
Emcee
l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position.
Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family.
All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !!
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.[/p][/quote]Emcee l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position. Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family. All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !! Almeda11
  • Score: 0

7:10pm Wed 16 Apr 14

niki-loo says...

Almeda11 wrote:
emcee wrote:
Jack222 wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
Emcee
l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position.
Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family.
All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !!
i think the attitude of some of here is just plain disgusting. So because these people dont own their home that makes it ok for the council to take this long? and charge double council tax! would you complain if your insurance company dragged their heels on repairs like this?? yes you bloody would.

and as for "working for your home" i work to pay for my home. i work to pay RENT for my home, rent on my overpriced private landlord owned home because im sorry chicken not all of us have a spare £50000 to go grab a mortgage.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.[/p][/quote]Emcee l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position. Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family. All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !![/p][/quote]i think the attitude of some of here is just plain disgusting. So because these people dont own their home that makes it ok for the council to take this long? and charge double council tax! would you complain if your insurance company dragged their heels on repairs like this?? yes you bloody would. and as for "working for your home" i work to pay for my home. i work to pay RENT for my home, rent on my overpriced private landlord owned home because im sorry chicken not all of us have a spare £50000 to go grab a mortgage. niki-loo
  • Score: 1

8:21pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Idontknowy says...

Have to agree with the last few comments. People are getting very nasty about whether you live in rented or your own mortgaged property.
I can only assume they have been brain-washed by this Tory government attitude of I'm all right Jack and sod the rest of you/ They have been very clever at dividing the electorate. To the "haves" with their lofty attitudes anybody can be in unfortunate circumstances due to illness or redundancy etc. Just be thankful you are fortunate enough to be able to work, have a job and were able to raise the deposit to buy your own home or bought property on a to let basis
Have to agree with the last few comments. People are getting very nasty about whether you live in rented or your own mortgaged property. I can only assume they have been brain-washed by this Tory government attitude of I'm all right Jack and sod the rest of you/ They have been very clever at dividing the electorate. To the "haves" with their lofty attitudes anybody can be in unfortunate circumstances due to illness or redundancy etc. Just be thankful you are fortunate enough to be able to work, have a job and were able to raise the deposit to buy your own home or bought property on a to let basis Idontknowy
  • Score: 1

8:47pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Almeda11 says...

Idontknowy wrote:
Have to agree with the last few comments. People are getting very nasty about whether you live in rented or your own mortgaged property. I can only assume they have been brain-washed by this Tory government attitude of I'm all right Jack and sod the rest of you/ They have been very clever at dividing the electorate. To the "haves" with their lofty attitudes anybody can be in unfortunate circumstances due to illness or redundancy etc. Just be thankful you are fortunate enough to be able to work, have a job and were able to raise the deposit to buy your own home or bought property on a to let basis
l agree, and it is a very nasty, and very silly, condescending and immature person who gloats about the fact that they " own" their own home.

Actually they don`t, not until it is all paid off, a mortgage is just another loan, and if they don`t keep up payments they will be kicked out, so it`s nothing to feel superior about.

That`s the trouble with this country, this snobby attitude which you will only find in the uk, the rest of the continent couldn`t care less, and home ownership in Germany for example is far, far lower than here.
There they have much better tenant protection laws, but who wants to buy is free to buy, but you are certainly not judged by whether to own your home or choose to rent.

l have even seen this question on a doctors form when registering, and l simply put " should not be relevant" and did not answer!! but you can see just from that, the snobbery at work in the uk, will people get better treatment if they are homeowners. God forbid, let`s not even go there!!
[quote][p][bold]Idontknowy[/bold] wrote: Have to agree with the last few comments. People are getting very nasty about whether you live in rented or your own mortgaged property. I can only assume they have been brain-washed by this Tory government attitude of I'm all right Jack and sod the rest of you/ They have been very clever at dividing the electorate. To the "haves" with their lofty attitudes anybody can be in unfortunate circumstances due to illness or redundancy etc. Just be thankful you are fortunate enough to be able to work, have a job and were able to raise the deposit to buy your own home or bought property on a to let basis[/p][/quote]l agree, and it is a very nasty, and very silly, condescending and immature person who gloats about the fact that they " own" their own home. Actually they don`t, not until it is all paid off, a mortgage is just another loan, and if they don`t keep up payments they will be kicked out, so it`s nothing to feel superior about. That`s the trouble with this country, this snobby attitude which you will only find in the uk, the rest of the continent couldn`t care less, and home ownership in Germany for example is far, far lower than here. There they have much better tenant protection laws, but who wants to buy is free to buy, but you are certainly not judged by whether to own your home or choose to rent. l have even seen this question on a doctors form when registering, and l simply put " should not be relevant" and did not answer!! but you can see just from that, the snobbery at work in the uk, will people get better treatment if they are homeowners. God forbid, let`s not even go there!! Almeda11
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9:33pm Wed 16 Apr 14

debbie81 says...

i know it sound like we are moaning about what we have but we are not the council have been so horrid to all families in the fire we was left for a month sleeping on in laws floor with me 2 week b4 having a baby if it wasnt for the mp we would not have got this house its hard for the kids walking past there every day asking why cant we go home we know all work has finished in the house just the cladding to go up which every where else gets down why people live in there house we just dont understand why we cant go home the council tell the paper a different story to what they tell us which is mostly nothing
i know it sound like we are moaning about what we have but we are not the council have been so horrid to all families in the fire we was left for a month sleeping on in laws floor with me 2 week b4 having a baby if it wasnt for the mp we would not have got this house its hard for the kids walking past there every day asking why cant we go home we know all work has finished in the house just the cladding to go up which every where else gets down why people live in there house we just dont understand why we cant go home the council tell the paper a different story to what they tell us which is mostly nothing debbie81
  • Score: 3

9:38pm Wed 16 Apr 14

debbie81 says...

and just so everyone knows my husband works very and all the hours he can we dont ask for any help from noone we pay for our own kids some i just hope that nothing like this ever happens to anyone coz you dont get know help from council you are left on your own we was lucky we was on holiday when this happend that why its are to say to a 3 year why he cant go home
and just so everyone knows my husband works very and all the hours he can we dont ask for any help from noone we pay for our own kids some i just hope that nothing like this ever happens to anyone coz you dont get know help from council you are left on your own we was lucky we was on holiday when this happend that why its are to say to a 3 year why he cant go home debbie81
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9:51pm Wed 16 Apr 14

InTheKnowOk says...

Jack222 wrote:
I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either.

The rest of us have to work for our property...
You wouldn't be saying that if it were your gaff and someone else started the fire ..
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]You wouldn't be saying that if it were your gaff and someone else started the fire .. InTheKnowOk
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10:35pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Almeda11 says...

debbie81 wrote:
and we had been to council to try and sort council tax out and they are not moving saying we have to pay for both houses
l know someone who lives in a council property. Their wall was so damp that the wallpaper was falling off and it was so mouldy it was a health hazard.
This person was 90 and suffered from COPD, a respiratory illness.
l contacted the council and they were offered alternative accomodation ( called a decant property) at no extra cost, so it`s worth being persistent. l hope you get back to your original property soon.
[quote][p][bold]debbie81[/bold] wrote: and we had been to council to try and sort council tax out and they are not moving saying we have to pay for both houses[/p][/quote]l know someone who lives in a council property. Their wall was so damp that the wallpaper was falling off and it was so mouldy it was a health hazard. This person was 90 and suffered from COPD, a respiratory illness. l contacted the council and they were offered alternative accomodation ( called a decant property) at no extra cost, so it`s worth being persistent. l hope you get back to your original property soon. Almeda11
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11:15pm Wed 16 Apr 14

debbie81 says...

the point is we only went to the paper about the council tax they wanted to know the whole story we didnt know what was going to be printed and yes we have been lucky all my kids and pets are safe thanks to people in the street that got them out i think what more upsetting is the 2 drunks that started the fire was first to get a new house and you cant even say they was sorry coz they come back that night still drunk asking what my problem was
the point is we only went to the paper about the council tax they wanted to know the whole story we didnt know what was going to be printed and yes we have been lucky all my kids and pets are safe thanks to people in the street that got them out i think what more upsetting is the 2 drunks that started the fire was first to get a new house and you cant even say they was sorry coz they come back that night still drunk asking what my problem was debbie81
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12:02am Thu 17 Apr 14

mence80 says...

A very sad Story all round...............
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A very sad Story all round............... ............ mence80
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10:19am Thu 17 Apr 14

I-say-you-say says...

niki-loo wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
emcee wrote:
Jack222 wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...
At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.
Emcee l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position. Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family. All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !!
i think the attitude of some of here is just plain disgusting. So because these people dont own their home that makes it ok for the council to take this long? and charge double council tax! would you complain if your insurance company dragged their heels on repairs like this?? yes you bloody would. and as for "working for your home" i work to pay for my home. i work to pay RENT for my home, rent on my overpriced private landlord owned home because im sorry chicken not all of us have a spare £50000 to go grab a mortgage.
First, let me say that I have every sympathy for the family. The fire was not their fault and they could have lost a lot more than a few months in their home which I can imagine is upsetting to think about. And I appreciate the comments from the tenant advising that the story was meant to be about the COuncil Tax only and not the repairs.

However just because something isn't going your way, does not give you the right to go running to the papers.

It is not the right way to go about things. Go through the correct channels, write to them, make an official complaint, escalate it, write to your local MP for help, then finally go to the Ombudsmen. You are more likely to get the result you want.

In response to niki-loo, no I would not complain if my insurance company took this long, if I knew that the reason for the delay was that repairs to the property I was returning to would mean it was going to be safer for me and my children than it was before. I certainly would not want to return if I thought nothing had been done to prevent this from happening again.

And if I did want to complain, it would be to the insurance company direct and not anyone else.
[quote][p][bold]niki-loo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: I must admit this seems a whinge; you have a roof over your head. The other house was not yours either. The rest of us have to work for our property...[/p][/quote]At what point does the report say Mr and/or Mrs Wilson does not work for their home? In fact, is does say Mr Wilson is an Engineer. Just because someone does not own their own home and lives in rented acommodation (whether it is private or social is irrelevant) does not mean they are not deserving of that home. Many people, especially the newer generations, are finding it difficult to be in a position to buy their own home. Are they all "scroungers" because they have to or, in some cases, choose to live in rented accommodation? Because that is what your comment implies? What you comment definately does imply is your ignorance. Also, they are entitled to "whinge". As with any landlord, the council have an legal obligation towards their tenant. In this case they (the council) are definately dragging their heels. The trauma of being turfed out of your home, especially through no fault of your own, is only compounded when you have no idea when your home becomes permanent again. Your life becomes a "day to day" existance of uncertainty, leading to stress and anxiety.[/p][/quote]Emcee l completely agree with all your comments, and could not have put it better myself. There are too many SNOBS in the uk, and Jack did not even bother to read the article thoroughly or he would have seen that Mr Wilson is an engineer, which is a qualified position. Also, many people on the continent rent, and don`t have the same snobby attitude or are obsessed with home ownership. lt is a lifestyle choice, nothing more, nothing less, and as for Southend council, well all l can say is they waffle a lot and are slow, slow, slow, also the communication is almost non existent, so good luck to Mr Wilson and his family. All l can say is l hope he contacts them, and is very, very persistent, till he gets answers, if you wait for them, you will be waiting a very long time !![/p][/quote]i think the attitude of some of here is just plain disgusting. So because these people dont own their home that makes it ok for the council to take this long? and charge double council tax! would you complain if your insurance company dragged their heels on repairs like this?? yes you bloody would. and as for "working for your home" i work to pay for my home. i work to pay RENT for my home, rent on my overpriced private landlord owned home because im sorry chicken not all of us have a spare £50000 to go grab a mortgage.[/p][/quote]First, let me say that I have every sympathy for the family. The fire was not their fault and they could have lost a lot more than a few months in their home which I can imagine is upsetting to think about. And I appreciate the comments from the tenant advising that the story was meant to be about the COuncil Tax only and not the repairs. However just because something isn't going your way, does not give you the right to go running to the papers. It is not the right way to go about things. Go through the correct channels, write to them, make an official complaint, escalate it, write to your local MP for help, then finally go to the Ombudsmen. You are more likely to get the result you want. In response to niki-loo, no I would not complain if my insurance company took this long, if I knew that the reason for the delay was that repairs to the property I was returning to would mean it was going to be safer for me and my children than it was before. I certainly would not want to return if I thought nothing had been done to prevent this from happening again. And if I did want to complain, it would be to the insurance company direct and not anyone else. I-say-you-say
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