UPDATED: Cyclist injured after bus collision on Thorpe Esplanade

A BICYCLE rider has been injured after being involved in a crash with a bus in Thorpe Bay.

Paramedics were called out at 10.45am to the incident which happened on Thorpe Esplanade at the junction with Thorpe Hall Avenue.

The incident happened after a bus and cyclist collided.

Treatment was given to the male bike rider at the scene with a police spokeswoman saying his injuries are thought "not to be serious".

Slight delays are being caused in the area as the bus is blocking part of the road heading towards Southend town centre.

The bus was removed from the scene at 12noon but police kept the road was partially shut off at the junction with Burges Terrace while investigations were carried out.

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12:31pm Wed 28 May 14

Little John says...

Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse
Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse Little John
  • Score: 6

12:40pm Wed 28 May 14

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me says...

Little John wrote:
Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse
Was the bus driver injured?
[quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse[/p][/quote]Was the bus driver injured? Who gives a fuuck - Not Me
  • Score: 10

12:46pm Wed 28 May 14

Little John says...

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
Little John wrote:
Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse
Was the bus driver injured?
Don't think so. I think he was the chap directing traffic around the roundabout as the west bound exit was blocked by the bus. Others were tending to the cyclist.
[quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: Glad to hear the cyclist was OK. I was a minute or two behind the bus this morning and saw the squashed bike under the bus at the roundabout. Looked like it could have been much much worse[/p][/quote]Was the bus driver injured?[/p][/quote]Don't think so. I think he was the chap directing traffic around the roundabout as the west bound exit was blocked by the bus. Others were tending to the cyclist. Little John
  • Score: 5

1:06pm Wed 28 May 14

MarcelloM says...

What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there?

Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell?

Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders!
What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there? Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell? Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders! MarcelloM
  • Score: 3

1:16pm Wed 28 May 14

colincarter25 says...

I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them colincarter25
  • Score: 14

2:03pm Wed 28 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

colincarter25 wrote:
I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?
[quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them? Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: -4

2:14pm Wed 28 May 14

supermadmax says...

Minor road crash in Thorpe bay and police and paramedics are on the scene in minutes. People get robbed or assaulted in southend / westcliff & they have to spend a day waiting to give a statement.
Minor road crash in Thorpe bay and police and paramedics are on the scene in minutes. People get robbed or assaulted in southend / westcliff & they have to spend a day waiting to give a statement. supermadmax
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Wed 28 May 14

emcee says...

colincarter25 wrote:
I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
Cycle paths are intended as an "aid" to cyclists to hekp them navigate through normal motor traffic. Cyclists are not required to use them.
However, and I am not saying it was the case on this occasion, cycle paths can also (and the one on the seafront is a good example) be more dangerous than using the main part of the road. Pedestrians, parked motor vehicles, children on scooters/skateboards and even other cyclists who have no idea of road/cycle path etiquette, all regularly make using cycle paths very hazzardous for cyclists, often making the main part of the road easier and safer to use.
[quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]Cycle paths are intended as an "aid" to cyclists to hekp them navigate through normal motor traffic. Cyclists are not required to use them. However, and I am not saying it was the case on this occasion, cycle paths can also (and the one on the seafront is a good example) be more dangerous than using the main part of the road. Pedestrians, parked motor vehicles, children on scooters/skateboards and even other cyclists who have no idea of road/cycle path etiquette, all regularly make using cycle paths very hazzardous for cyclists, often making the main part of the road easier and safer to use. emcee
  • Score: 7

2:28pm Wed 28 May 14

Little John says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
colincarter25 wrote:
I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?
By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it.
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?[/p][/quote]By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it. Little John
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Wed 28 May 14

pembury53 says...

emcee wrote:
colincarter25 wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
Cycle paths are intended as an "aid" to cyclists to hekp them navigate through normal motor traffic. Cyclists are not required to use them. However, and I am not saying it was the case on this occasion, cycle paths can also (and the one on the seafront is a good example) be more dangerous than using the main part of the road. Pedestrians, parked motor vehicles, children on scooters/skateboards and even other cyclists who have no idea of road/cycle path etiquette, all regularly make using cycle paths very hazzardous for cyclists, often making the main part of the road easier and safer to use.
the stretch of cycle path running from 'sands' towards the westcliff casino is lethal..... only a matter of time before a small child and cyclist are seriously injured along there, in fact it's a miracle it hasn't happened yet.....
[quote][p][bold]emcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]Cycle paths are intended as an "aid" to cyclists to hekp them navigate through normal motor traffic. Cyclists are not required to use them. However, and I am not saying it was the case on this occasion, cycle paths can also (and the one on the seafront is a good example) be more dangerous than using the main part of the road. Pedestrians, parked motor vehicles, children on scooters/skateboards and even other cyclists who have no idea of road/cycle path etiquette, all regularly make using cycle paths very hazzardous for cyclists, often making the main part of the road easier and safer to use.[/p][/quote]the stretch of cycle path running from 'sands' towards the westcliff casino is lethal..... only a matter of time before a small child and cyclist are seriously injured along there, in fact it's a miracle it hasn't happened yet..... pembury53
  • Score: 3

3:16pm Wed 28 May 14

4142 says...

MarcelloM wrote:
What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there?

Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell?

Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders!
Cycling in the road , why not, no legal requirement to use cycle path and we don't know the exact position of the collision . After all that is posted about cyclist and road tax you must know by now that road tax was abolished in 1937. There is car tax which is based on age or emissions, a 1971 Rolls Royce pays the same " road tax " as a cycle, nothing . Helmet not a legal requirement, lights was it dark and I am sure the bus driver would have heard a bell
[quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there? Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell? Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders![/p][/quote]Cycling in the road , why not, no legal requirement to use cycle path and we don't know the exact position of the collision . After all that is posted about cyclist and road tax you must know by now that road tax was abolished in 1937. There is car tax which is based on age or emissions, a 1971 Rolls Royce pays the same " road tax " as a cycle, nothing . Helmet not a legal requirement, lights was it dark and I am sure the bus driver would have heard a bell 4142
  • Score: -1

3:26pm Wed 28 May 14

dumpy06 says...

bus driver done well to get on the cycle track after saying that glad the cyclist was ok will he learn from this
bus driver done well to get on the cycle track after saying that glad the cyclist was ok will he learn from this dumpy06
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Wed 28 May 14

dumpy06 says...

Glad to hear the cyclist was badly hurt, but hats off to the the bus driver, it must have taken some talent to get a bus in the cycle lane!!!
Glad to hear the cyclist was badly hurt, but hats off to the the bus driver, it must have taken some talent to get a bus in the cycle lane!!! dumpy06
  • Score: 5

3:29pm Wed 28 May 14

dumpy06 says...

Glad to hear the cyclist wasn't badly hurt, but hats off to the the bus driver, it must have taken some talent to get a bus in the cycle lane!!
Glad to hear the cyclist wasn't badly hurt, but hats off to the the bus driver, it must have taken some talent to get a bus in the cycle lane!! dumpy06
  • Score: -7

3:45pm Wed 28 May 14

the25man says...

When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware. the25man
  • Score: 12

3:58pm Wed 28 May 14

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me says...

the25man wrote:
When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
[quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist! Who gives a fuuck - Not Me
  • Score: -17

4:10pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

MarcelloM wrote:
What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there? Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell? Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders!
ALL cyclists are entitled, and EXPECTED to use the roads, due to the abysmal lack of continuous cycle tracks that actually join up.

Too many don`t, as on the corner of London Rd/Avenue Rd, where it just goes around the corner and stops abruptly. Or the bridge between Hamlet Rd, and Clifftown Rd.

And many cyclist drive and do therefore pay road tax, why should they pay twice.

And it isn`t just cyclists who can be a menace to society, many car drivers are too, l have twice had an idiotic, unthinking driver just open the car door as l was passing. Luckilly it was once by WHSmith which is quiet, and once on a Sunday, along the London Rd in Leigh, but there are equal numbers of bad drivers in both camps.
[quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: What was the cyclist doing in the road? Isn't there a cycle path there? Does he pay road tax and did he have a helmet, lights and bell? Cyclists are a menace to society. No better than those pesky skateboarders![/p][/quote]ALL cyclists are entitled, and EXPECTED to use the roads, due to the abysmal lack of continuous cycle tracks that actually join up. Too many don`t, as on the corner of London Rd/Avenue Rd, where it just goes around the corner and stops abruptly. Or the bridge between Hamlet Rd, and Clifftown Rd. And many cyclist drive and do therefore pay road tax, why should they pay twice. And it isn`t just cyclists who can be a menace to society, many car drivers are too, l have twice had an idiotic, unthinking driver just open the car door as l was passing. Luckilly it was once by WHSmith which is quiet, and once on a Sunday, along the London Rd in Leigh, but there are equal numbers of bad drivers in both camps. Almeda11
  • Score: 7

4:15pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life.

And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name.

Got an explanation of how you got like that?
[quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that? Almeda11
  • Score: -5

4:24pm Wed 28 May 14

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me says...

Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life.

And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name.

Got an explanation of how you got like that?
It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?[/p][/quote]It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left. Who gives a fuuck - Not Me
  • Score: -18

4:42pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?
It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.
lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr?

Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say.
But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that.

How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed?
Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so.

lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say

" admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem"

Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance.

Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!!
[quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?[/p][/quote]It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.[/p][/quote]lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr? Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say. But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that. How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed? Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so. lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say " admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem" Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance. Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!! Almeda11
  • Score: -4

4:48pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

the25man wrote:
When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
l am VERY aware of others when l cycle on the roads, which l have been since l was 7. But it goes both ways, yes there are bad cyclists, equally so there are bad drivers.
On the continent many countries, particularly Germany and Holland have numerous well laid out cycle paths, these accidentswith lorries simply don`t happen like here, because the government and local councils provide for cyclists, for the interests of all concerned.

Many times, l have made suggestion to a deaf council, that it would be easy, in certain parts of the London Rd, from Leigh to Southend, to simply paint a white line on the outside of the pavement, where the pavement is wide enough, and in many places they are.

By the front of Sainsburys, and in front of Nathereth House are just two examples. That keeps the cyclists in one space so they don`t need to weave around all over the place, and the pedestrians in another .

But common sense is lost on this council, they just don`t want to know, an extremelly unintelligent and blinkered view, we are 50 years behind many places in Europe!
[quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]l am VERY aware of others when l cycle on the roads, which l have been since l was 7. But it goes both ways, yes there are bad cyclists, equally so there are bad drivers. On the continent many countries, particularly Germany and Holland have numerous well laid out cycle paths, these accidentswith lorries simply don`t happen like here, because the government and local councils provide for cyclists, for the interests of all concerned. Many times, l have made suggestion to a deaf council, that it would be easy, in certain parts of the London Rd, from Leigh to Southend, to simply paint a white line on the outside of the pavement, where the pavement is wide enough, and in many places they are. By the front of Sainsburys, and in front of Nathereth House are just two examples. That keeps the cyclists in one space so they don`t need to weave around all over the place, and the pedestrians in another . But common sense is lost on this council, they just don`t want to know, an extremelly unintelligent and blinkered view, we are 50 years behind many places in Europe! Almeda11
  • Score: -7

4:54pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Little John wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote:
colincarter25 wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?
By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it.
Exactly, no joined up cyclepaths in too many areas, see my other comments, along with no joined up thinking by the d- mwi-s in Southend council.
[quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?[/p][/quote]By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it.[/p][/quote]Exactly, no joined up cyclepaths in too many areas, see my other comments, along with no joined up thinking by the d- mwi-s in Southend council. Almeda11
  • Score: -4

5:40pm Wed 28 May 14

CarnMountification says...

Almeda11 wrote:
Little John wrote:
Keptquiettillnow wrote:
colincarter25 wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?
By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it.
Exactly, no joined up cyclepaths in too many areas, see my other comments, along with no joined up thinking by the d- mwi-s in Southend council.
Shut it woman, he was probably undertaking that bus,l and got slapped.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]I am glad the cyclist was ok, but what are the point of eyes if drivers don't use them?[/p][/quote]By the looks of where the bike was in the road, it looked as if the cyclist on the bike had just join the Esplanade from Thorpe Hall Rd. there is no cycle path that can be used to do this. You can't join the cycle path on the Esplanade from the junction as there are beds with Palm trees in them to make a divide for some reason. You would have to use the road heading west for a way until you could get on the cycle path if you wanted to use it.[/p][/quote]Exactly, no joined up cyclepaths in too many areas, see my other comments, along with no joined up thinking by the d- mwi-s in Southend council.[/p][/quote]Shut it woman, he was probably undertaking that bus,l and got slapped. CarnMountification
  • Score: 6

6:06pm Wed 28 May 14

MarcelloM says...

Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks.

Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!!

Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.
Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport. MarcelloM
  • Score: -3

6:10pm Wed 28 May 14

_Lotus_ says...

MarcelloM wrote:
Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks.

Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!!

Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.
You cannot enforce that as there is not a cycle path on every street.

Jus' saying.
[quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.[/p][/quote]You cannot enforce that as there is not a cycle path on every street. Jus' saying. _Lotus_
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Wed 28 May 14

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me says...

MarcelloM wrote:
Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks.

Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!!

Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.
Bikes are good for the environment.
[quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.[/p][/quote]Bikes are good for the environment. Who gives a fuuck - Not Me
  • Score: -1

7:24pm Wed 28 May 14

John Bull 40 says...

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote:
When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
Silly boy you have changed your name again, so that you can post childish
comments on here. Why don't you stick to facebook with the rest of the
children.
[quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]Silly boy you have changed your name again, so that you can post childish comments on here. Why don't you stick to facebook with the rest of the children. John Bull 40
  • Score: 20

8:48pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

colincarter25 wrote:
I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront.

The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements.

There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic.

At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place

Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here.
[quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront. The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements. There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here. Almeda11
  • Score: -6

8:52pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
MarcelloM wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.
Bikes are good for the environment.
That`s one thing we can agree on !
[quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.[/p][/quote]Bikes are good for the environment.[/p][/quote]That`s one thing we can agree on ! Almeda11
  • Score: -5

8:55pm Wed 28 May 14

Almeda11 says...

_Lotus_ wrote:
MarcelloM wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.
You cannot enforce that as there is not a cycle path on every street. Jus' saying.
Good point !
[quote][p][bold]_Lotus_[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarcelloM[/bold] wrote: Bikes should be illegal on everything except cycle paths, just like skateboarders should be illegal apart from in skateparks. Too many people in this town roll around on self-propelled transport, thinking they can do what they like. They need to be stopped!! Perhaps there should be an amnesty where they can trade their bikes and skateboards for micro-scooters? You never hear about micro-scooter riders getting hurt, or ruining our lovely town. They are the safest and most civilised form of transport.[/p][/quote]You cannot enforce that as there is not a cycle path on every street. Jus' saying.[/p][/quote]Good point ! Almeda11
  • Score: -4

12:22pm Thu 29 May 14

scrounger‎ says...

I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road.
I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road. scrounger‎
  • Score: 6

12:27pm Thu 29 May 14

Almeda11 says...

There seem to be a lot of cyclist haters on here which many times just isn`t justified, and l hate bad cyclists, (and car drivers) just as much as the car drivers do !

l am a cyclist too, 67 years of age, passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, and ALWAYS cycle on the road, London Rd mainly to get from A to B, B usually being Sainsburys.

I always concentrate on parked car doors along the London Rd, making sure l give as wide a berth as is safe to do so, but not so wide as to be too close to cars that are coming behind me, and l NEVER jump red lights, l think that should be made ILLEGAL, and immediately too !

lt is extremely dangerous, both for the cyclist and any car drivers, as it could cause a horrific accident if a driver swerved to avoid hitting the cyclist. And they also give good cyclists like me a bad name, and l resent that !!

But what l find really appalling in the uk is the ATTITUDE to cyclists, both by the car drivers and the council.

lt seems to be the perception that cyclists are somehow second class citizens. They are not, and many cyclists are in fact drivers too.

By contrast, particularly in countries like Germany and Holland, they have a much friendlier attitude and outlook towards cyclist and they are definitely NOT regarded as 2nd class citizens.

Quite the reverse in fact, their mode of travel is recognised as eco friendly and they do not pollute the atmosphere, much better for health and breathing.
lt is also great exercise and you don`t see half as many fat unhealthy people in Germany as you do in the uk, they cycle or walk everywhere within a reasonable distance..

And the government there makes sensible provisions for them in the form of cycle tracks wherever they can, so it`s far safer, both for the cyclist and pedestrians.

Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works, and there are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic.

At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place.

The greatest problem with this country is that it lacks common sense, they are either incapable of seeing the advantages or too pig headed to try them out , and, of course, they always think that only THEY know best, when what they should be doing is looking at countries in Europe, and stop wasting their money on little bits of cycle track, that start near one road and go just round the corner, we need REAL cycle tracks not pathetic bits and pieces, and on the London Rd, for convenience, not some way out place.
l have talked to the council and initially didn`t even get a reply, only by being persistent did l speak to someone, but judging by that conversation things will not be changing for the better anytime soon!
There seem to be a lot of cyclist haters on here which many times just isn`t justified, and l hate bad cyclists, (and car drivers) just as much as the car drivers do ! l am a cyclist too, 67 years of age, passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, and ALWAYS cycle on the road, London Rd mainly to get from A to B, B usually being Sainsburys. I always concentrate on parked car doors along the London Rd, making sure l give as wide a berth as is safe to do so, but not so wide as to be too close to cars that are coming behind me, and l NEVER jump red lights, l think that should be made ILLEGAL, and immediately too ! lt is extremely dangerous, both for the cyclist and any car drivers, as it could cause a horrific accident if a driver swerved to avoid hitting the cyclist. And they also give good cyclists like me a bad name, and l resent that !! But what l find really appalling in the uk is the ATTITUDE to cyclists, both by the car drivers and the council. lt seems to be the perception that cyclists are somehow second class citizens. They are not, and many cyclists are in fact drivers too. By contrast, particularly in countries like Germany and Holland, they have a much friendlier attitude and outlook towards cyclist and they are definitely NOT regarded as 2nd class citizens. Quite the reverse in fact, their mode of travel is recognised as eco friendly and they do not pollute the atmosphere, much better for health and breathing. lt is also great exercise and you don`t see half as many fat unhealthy people in Germany as you do in the uk, they cycle or walk everywhere within a reasonable distance.. And the government there makes sensible provisions for them in the form of cycle tracks wherever they can, so it`s far safer, both for the cyclist and pedestrians. Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works, and there are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place. The greatest problem with this country is that it lacks common sense, they are either incapable of seeing the advantages or too pig headed to try them out , and, of course, they always think that only THEY know best, when what they should be doing is looking at countries in Europe, and stop wasting their money on little bits of cycle track, that start near one road and go just round the corner, we need REAL cycle tracks not pathetic bits and pieces, and on the London Rd, for convenience, not some way out place. l have talked to the council and initially didn`t even get a reply, only by being persistent did l speak to someone, but judging by that conversation things will not be changing for the better anytime soon! Almeda11
  • Score: -1

12:28pm Thu 29 May 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Almeda11 wrote:
colincarter25 wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront. The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements. There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here.
Its always made me question the councils intentions when they wanted the Super Casino they had to undertake a fact finding mission to Las Vegas to make sure.
Why not pop up to Harwich and take the ferry to the Hoek v Holland when it comes to cycling and cycle planning?
The sad truth is they really do not want people to cycle in Southend.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront. The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements. There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here.[/p][/quote]Its always made me question the councils intentions when they wanted the Super Casino they had to undertake a fact finding mission to Las Vegas to make sure. Why not pop up to Harwich and take the ferry to the Hoek v Holland when it comes to cycling and cycle planning? The sad truth is they really do not want people to cycle in Southend. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Thu 29 May 14

Alice in Her Own Land :P says...

scrounger‎ wrote:
I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road.
Yes they are more likely to be on the pavements terrorising pedestrians - and no, I'm not joking! Sick to the back teeth of them!
[quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote: I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road.[/p][/quote]Yes they are more likely to be on the pavements terrorising pedestrians - and no, I'm not joking! Sick to the back teeth of them! Alice in Her Own Land :P
  • Score: 1

1:52pm Thu 29 May 14

Mattster says...

Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?
It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.
lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr?

Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say.
But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that.

How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed?
Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so.

lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say

" admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem"

Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance.

Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!!
Your feeding the troll.
[quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?[/p][/quote]It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.[/p][/quote]lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr? Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say. But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that. How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed? Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so. lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say " admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem" Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance. Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!![/p][/quote]Your feeding the troll. Mattster
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Thu 29 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Mattster wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
Who gives a fuuck - Not Me wrote:
the25man wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.
When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist!
No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?
It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.
lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr? Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say. But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that. How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed? Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so. lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say " admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem" Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance. Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!!
Your feeding the troll.
l don`t care, he needs a taste of his own medicine!
[quote][p][bold]Mattster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who gives a fuuck - Not Me[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the25man[/bold] wrote: When are cyclists going to take responsibility for there own actions and not blame the road lay out. Big vehicles have blind spots so idiot cyclists ride into them they have no road sense. Cyclists have every right to use the road so should be aware of others. Would it be right for pedestrians to walk on the road although they can but when they do they are careful and are aware of traffic around them. Cyclists should be this aware.[/p][/quote]When I cycle, I usually ride like a maniac. Blasting through red traffic lights, earphones in, riding through the middle of standstill traffic, riding the wrong way down one way roads, and sometimes no handed. I'm a good cyclist![/p][/quote]No, you are NOT a good cyclist, just a deluded, and dangerous one, who doesn`t value your own, or anybody else`s life. And you give the really good cyclists, like myself, who obey ALL the traffic laws, and passed my cycling proficiency test at 11, a bad name. Got an explanation of how you got like that?[/p][/quote]It's just how I choose to cycle. It's a good adrenaline rush. Last year I was fined £50 for going through a red light. I just thought it was pretty funny though. As soon as the cops left I was literally going through red lights again. Nothing really stops me apart from death. I admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem? I'm guilty too of not having lights in the dark. I mean I sometimes cycle safely. LIke I will use a right hand signal when turning left.[/p][/quote]lt`s just how l choose to cycle you say, but do you really understand the implications of that? Or that you put your own life, and other peoples` in grave dangewr? Fine, if you really DO want to put your own life in danger then go ahead, l presume you are over 20, so an adult, although you don`t sound it, sorry to say. But to involve other people in your act is totally selfish and l can`t believe you can`t see that or understand that. How would you feel if an irresponsible, dangerous, madcap cyclist like you actually caused an accident with a car that a relative of yours, who you cared about deeply, was killed? Would you still be spouting the same rubbish? l don`t think so. lt is a very irresponsible and totally selfish attitude. And then you say " admit i'm a dangerous cyclist, but as long as i'm not harming myself or anyone else, what is the problem" Well the problem is the attitude. And as lond as ect, only lasts as long as it lasts, that could change any time in the future, and to say "nothing really stops me except death" well IF that actually happened it would be too late then wouldn`t it. because it would have actually happened, and you don`t get a second chance. Sounds to me like you need some REAL challenges in your life, ones that make you feel good about yourself, whatever they may be, and don`t involve endangering your own, or other peoples` lives!![/p][/quote]Your feeding the troll.[/p][/quote]l don`t care, he needs a taste of his own medicine! Almeda11
  • Score: -6

8:02pm Thu 29 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Alice in Her Own Land :P wrote:
scrounger‎ wrote: I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road.
Yes they are more likely to be on the pavements terrorising pedestrians - and no, I'm not joking! Sick to the back teeth of them!
So get on to the council then, and put pressure on them then, instead of just moaning about it.

l am sick to the back teeth of some of the idiots on here who have marked me down for making perfectly sensible suggestions.

These people want it BOTH ways, they moan about them on the roads, they moan about them on the pavements, but when a simple and effective SOLUTION is put forward, ie a white line painted on the outside of pavements when wide enough to do so it is ridiculed.

Totally stupid and unintelligent attitude. lf these people REALLY wanted them off the roads and not bothering pedestrians on the pavement, by weaving in and out, they would WELCOME a sensible suggestion. But oh no, all they are good for is moaning, l feel there are too many DIMWITS on here, so vote me down for that, I REALLY DON`T CARE about the opinions of a small minority of people of that mentality, who seem to be lacking in common sense as well !!!
[quote][p][bold]Alice in Her Own Land :P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrounger‎[/bold] wrote: I feel for the bus driver, I mean the last place you expect to see a cyclist is on the road.[/p][/quote]Yes they are more likely to be on the pavements terrorising pedestrians - and no, I'm not joking! Sick to the back teeth of them![/p][/quote]So get on to the council then, and put pressure on them then, instead of just moaning about it. l am sick to the back teeth of some of the idiots on here who have marked me down for making perfectly sensible suggestions. These people want it BOTH ways, they moan about them on the roads, they moan about them on the pavements, but when a simple and effective SOLUTION is put forward, ie a white line painted on the outside of pavements when wide enough to do so it is ridiculed. Totally stupid and unintelligent attitude. lf these people REALLY wanted them off the roads and not bothering pedestrians on the pavement, by weaving in and out, they would WELCOME a sensible suggestion. But oh no, all they are good for is moaning, l feel there are too many DIMWITS on here, so vote me down for that, I REALLY DON`T CARE about the opinions of a small minority of people of that mentality, who seem to be lacking in common sense as well !!! Almeda11
  • Score: -1

8:14pm Thu 29 May 14

Almeda11 says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
Almeda11 wrote:
colincarter25 wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them
But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront. The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements. There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here.
Its always made me question the councils intentions when they wanted the Super Casino they had to undertake a fact finding mission to Las Vegas to make sure. Why not pop up to Harwich and take the ferry to the Hoek v Holland when it comes to cycling and cycle planning? The sad truth is they really do not want people to cycle in Southend.
The council are very slow, and totally lacking in common sense and LOGIC. l mean, WHY would they bother to spend OUR money, ie the TAXPAYERS on a stupid little bit of cycle track, that starts just before London Rd, then goes just around the corner into Avenue Road, where it ends abruptly.

Makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the cyclist would have cycled there anyway, a waste of time and money.

And the bridge connecting Hamlet Rd and Clifftown Rd, again, a bit of cycle track, all painted nice and green with a bike on it. Very artistic but WHAT B ------DY use is it??? lt DOESN`T CONTINUE !! again, a total waste of time and money.

We need JOINED UP CYCLE TRACKS TOGETHER WITH JOINED UP THINKING of which Southend council is lacking in. So l hope all the people who ARE WORKING on here are HAPPY TO PAY for this rubbish, ARE YOU?.
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Almeda11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]colincarter25[/bold] wrote: I am gald that the cyclist is OK but what is the point of cycle paths/lanes if they do not use them[/p][/quote]But they do use them, l have seen many cyclists on the paths in Prittle Brook, the cycle path that runs along Victoria Ave past the old llibrary, as well as the paths along the seafront. The problem is that there is no direct route along the London Rd, fro Leigh into Southend Victoria Plaza, so people, some of them anyway, cycle on the pavements. There are many areas along the London Rd, from Leigh, past Chalkwell park where they have unused green areas, which could be reduced to make way for cycle paths, to the London Rd in Westcliff to Southend, where, in many places it is entirely possible to paint a white dividing line on the outside of the pavement ( outside Nathereth House, for example) and where the cyclist would be travelling in the same direction as the traffic. At least that way the cyclist would be confined to one part of the pavement, as happens in Germany, and the pedestrian would know where they are, and not subjected to cyclist weaving in and out all over the place Why our council cannot see this simple and logical fact is beyond me, probably too sensible and logical for them, but it works there and could easily work here.[/p][/quote]Its always made me question the councils intentions when they wanted the Super Casino they had to undertake a fact finding mission to Las Vegas to make sure. Why not pop up to Harwich and take the ferry to the Hoek v Holland when it comes to cycling and cycle planning? The sad truth is they really do not want people to cycle in Southend.[/p][/quote]The council are very slow, and totally lacking in common sense and LOGIC. l mean, WHY would they bother to spend OUR money, ie the TAXPAYERS on a stupid little bit of cycle track, that starts just before London Rd, then goes just around the corner into Avenue Road, where it ends abruptly. Makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the cyclist would have cycled there anyway, a waste of time and money. And the bridge connecting Hamlet Rd and Clifftown Rd, again, a bit of cycle track, all painted nice and green with a bike on it. Very artistic but WHAT B ------DY use is it??? lt DOESN`T CONTINUE !! again, a total waste of time and money. We need JOINED UP CYCLE TRACKS TOGETHER WITH JOINED UP THINKING of which Southend council is lacking in. So l hope all the people who ARE WORKING on here are HAPPY TO PAY for this rubbish, ARE YOU?. Almeda11
  • Score: -4

11:39pm Thu 29 May 14

paulthehair says...

I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed.
I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed. paulthehair
  • Score: 9

1:35pm Fri 30 May 14

Matt - Kent says...

paulthehair wrote:
I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed.
“These people” – I can only assume you are referring to cyclists?? Have you ever bothered to get out of your car for a journey that you do 4 times a day and ride in these cycle lanes??? Perhaps wrongly but I assume it’s a NO! The road debris accumulates in said cycle lanes (not to mention the poorly maintained drain covers) and in itself cause a real danger to cyclists and drivers. Would you rather have to “follow” a cyclist or have one swerve to avoid a cyclist who in turn has had to avoid the debris??

PS I would love to know how many “millions” were spent on the lane….!
[quote][p][bold]paulthehair[/bold] wrote: I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed.[/p][/quote]“These people” – I can only assume you are referring to cyclists?? Have you ever bothered to get out of your car for a journey that you do 4 times a day and ride in these cycle lanes??? Perhaps wrongly but I assume it’s a NO! The road debris accumulates in said cycle lanes (not to mention the poorly maintained drain covers) and in itself cause a real danger to cyclists and drivers. Would you rather have to “follow” a cyclist or have one swerve to avoid a cyclist who in turn has had to avoid the debris?? PS I would love to know how many “millions” were spent on the lane….! Matt - Kent
  • Score: -2

1:37pm Fri 30 May 14

Firestormgjc says...

The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.
The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road. Firestormgjc
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Fri 30 May 14

Almeda11 says...

paulthehair wrote:
I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed.
WHAT road are you talking about? And WHAT cycle tracks?

There AREN`T that many. Apart from Prittlebrook, the seafront and the track along Victoria Ave past the old library there aren`t any.

And some car drivers are far too cautious when behind a cyclist.

l too get fed up when one is tailing me and there is plenty of space to pass, no one has to follow a cyclist for any length of time, l often give them a wave along, ie an indication to overtake me, and they almost always do.
[quote][p][bold]paulthehair[/bold] wrote: I drive along this road at least 4 times a day and I get fed up of having to follow a cyclist all the way to Shoebury when he should be in the cycle lane. When will this people learn? Millions was spent on the lane so use it before someone gets killed.[/p][/quote]WHAT road are you talking about? And WHAT cycle tracks? There AREN`T that many. Apart from Prittlebrook, the seafront and the track along Victoria Ave past the old library there aren`t any. And some car drivers are far too cautious when behind a cyclist. l too get fed up when one is tailing me and there is plenty of space to pass, no one has to follow a cyclist for any length of time, l often give them a wave along, ie an indication to overtake me, and they almost always do. Almeda11
  • Score: 3

7:25pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Southend65 says...

Firestormgjc wrote:
The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.
I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...
[quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ... Southend65
  • Score: 0

12:54pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Firestormgjc says...

Southend65 wrote:
Firestormgjc wrote:
The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.
I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...
Depends on the cycle route
30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes
18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable
[quote][p][bold]Southend65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...[/p][/quote]Depends on the cycle route 30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes 18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable Firestormgjc
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Southend65 says...

Firestormgjc wrote:
Southend65 wrote:
Firestormgjc wrote:
The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.
I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...
Depends on the cycle route
30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes
18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable
Thanks for that. You learn someone new every day !

Sounds like I have every right to be in the road on
the A127 when I'm tearing along at 25mph.

Now to tell all of those drivers giving me the finger...
[quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...[/p][/quote]Depends on the cycle route 30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes 18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. You learn someone new every day ! Sounds like I have every right to be in the road on the A127 when I'm tearing along at 25mph. Now to tell all of those drivers giving me the finger... Southend65
  • Score: 3

1:04pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Firestormgjc says...

Southend65 wrote:
Firestormgjc wrote:
Southend65 wrote:
Firestormgjc wrote:
The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.
I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...
Depends on the cycle route
30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes
18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable
Thanks for that. You learn someone new every day !

Sounds like I have every right to be in the road on
the A127 when I'm tearing along at 25mph.

Now to tell all of those drivers giving me the finger...
Exactly !!

To be honest the cycle path on the A127 would be safe as there are few pedestrians etc once you get out of the borough, except its poorly maintained and diverts at every opportunity so is hardly a straightforward route.

The vast majority of the cycle paths in the borough are there for those who cycle at a speed which would be dangerously slow on the road.

There was a news item on here some while ago about three cyclists on a training ride who had an accident on the cycle path west of the peir, the general concensus was that they were going too fast
[quote][p][bold]Southend65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southend65[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Firestormgjc[/bold] wrote: The Department For Transport Code of Conduct for cyclist states that if a cyclist wishes to travel faster than 18Kph (that's just over 11 mph) then they should be using the road.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that it is in excess of 18 mph rather than 18 Kmh ...[/p][/quote]Depends on the cycle route 30kph on routes designed for and considered as commuter routes 18kph on "local routes" given the width and proximity to pedestrian of the Southend paths the 18kph limit would be applicable[/p][/quote]Thanks for that. You learn someone new every day ! Sounds like I have every right to be in the road on the A127 when I'm tearing along at 25mph. Now to tell all of those drivers giving me the finger...[/p][/quote]Exactly !! To be honest the cycle path on the A127 would be safe as there are few pedestrians etc once you get out of the borough, except its poorly maintained and diverts at every opportunity so is hardly a straightforward route. The vast majority of the cycle paths in the borough are there for those who cycle at a speed which would be dangerously slow on the road. There was a news item on here some while ago about three cyclists on a training ride who had an accident on the cycle path west of the peir, the general concensus was that they were going too fast Firestormgjc
  • Score: 1

11:40am Wed 4 Jun 14

w-jback says...

Any of you a--holes going to retract your comments when you discover this accident was just a young lad !
Any of you a--holes going to retract your comments when you discover this accident was just a young lad ! w-jback
  • Score: 0

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