Southend Hospital beds closed due to nurse shortages

Echo: Closed: Southend Hospital closed 12 beds to new patients Closed: Southend Hospital closed 12 beds to new patients

SERIOUS staffing problems at Southend Hospital have led to beds being closed and its agency costs doubling in a year.

Figures just released for April show that 12 beds had to be closed across three wards because there were not enough nurses to safely look after patients.

Staff shortages in the same month saw the trust’s bill for agency workers hit more than £1.1million – double what it spent in April 2012.

New national minimum staffing levels, introduced this spring, require a minimum of one nurse per eight patients.

In some cases trust bosses have been unable to fulfil this, even with the aid of bank and agency staff, meaning beds have had to close in major departments, and matrons have been nursing, instead of doing managerial work. In April, seven beds were closed in Paglesham ward, in the stroke unit, due to high staff sickness and vacancy levels.

These beds, for those recovering from strokes, were still closed when the Echo enquired yesterday.

 

Echo: Fingertip control - Arthur Robinson tests out one of the 205 new Basildon Hospital beds

Closed: 12 beds were closed to patients in April

One of five high-dependency unit beds on Kitty Hubbard ward was closed for four days in April.

Four beds were also closed on Neptune Ward, in the paediatric department, due to low staff levels, while the neo-natal unit was closed to new admissions twice in April.

Aside from those on Paglesham ward, these beds have now re-opened, but the trust went into a deficit of £500,000 in April, due to high spending.

A report on the crisis to the hospital board of directors said: “The (stroke) unit had a high level of sickness in addition to vacancies, which have been difficult to recruit to.

“Staffing levels on every shift period fell below agreed levels.

The risk level was addressed with the continued closure of seven beds of Paglesham ward to improve nurse to patient ratio.”

Echo: Southend Hospital

Staff shortage: Southend Hospital

In early April, the trust also declared a “major internal incident”

due to higher levels of A&E patients than expected, which also put more strain on staff.

The trust had been due to permanently close the 25-bed Princess Ann Ward, which caters for elderly people, for refurbishment, but this had to be halted so beds could be used for A&E overspill during the problems.

The staff shortages has sent the costs for agency nurses spiralling up. This meant the total cost of staff for April was £12million.

The report added: “Agency spend continued on the recent high trend at £1.1million. The agency expenditure in April this year was more than double that of April in the prior financial year, with the biggest increase being seen on medical staff.”

The board will now have monthly staffing updates to monitor the issue.

Echo: Concern – Thurrock MP Jackie Doyle-Price has voiced strong opinions on Basildon Hospital

Short supply: More nurses are needed

A hospital spokeswoman said 22 Spanish nurses starting this month would help relieve the pressure.

She said: “Pagelsham ward is a rehabilitation ward for those patients recovering from stroke and works in partnership with Benfleet ward which accommodates acute stroke patients.

“The decision to close seven beds was taken to ensure appropriate levels of staff are available on the more acute ward, as some rehabilitation patients can be treated on other wards. Pagelesham ward was identified as one of our priority areas during our current overseas recruitment campaign in Spain and we were delighted to welcome the first 22 Spanish nurses to Southend this week.

“Following their induction they will take up posts across the organisation.

A second cohort from Spain are due to arrive in August.

The intake has been staggered to allow the nurses to be fully supported as they make the transition to working here.”

Echo: Basildon Hospital

Contrast: Basildon Hospital

In contrast, Basildon Hospital nurses treat just seven patients each, lower than the national requirement.

The trust said it had not closed any beds since the ratio system was introduced as it has been able to top the requirement.

The trust has kept fulltime vacancies down to 138 after an ongoing recruitment drive in Spain and the Philippines.

A report to the board said: “As a result of a concerted drive led by the clinical divisions, in excess of 200 nurses commenced employment with the trust in the period from June 2013.

More than 100 of these appointments were recruited from within the UK.

Overseas recruitment in Spain and the Philippines resulted in the appointment of an additional 103 nurses.”

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7:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

Avocati says...

I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention. Avocati
  • Score: 3

7:33am Wed 11 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
[quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement. Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

7:34am Wed 11 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
[quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement. Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

10:59am Wed 11 Jun 14

Fab man says...

And yet this failed government still thinks it's a good idea to send billions of British taxpayer's money abroad when we can't even look after our own - pathetic.
And yet this failed government still thinks it's a good idea to send billions of British taxpayer's money abroad when we can't even look after our own - pathetic. Fab man
  • Score: 4

11:32am Wed 11 Jun 14

Avocati says...

Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor? Avocati
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Wed 11 Jun 14

emcee says...

Southend Hospital does not invest enough in training nursing staff and have not done so for quite a number of years. There were/are many HCAs who were/are willing to train to become fully qualified nurses but could/can not afford to give up their salary to do so. Southend Hospital stopped their secondment program which allowed HCAs to train on the job as nurses while still recieving their salary.
This investment in the training and staffing program may have been expensive at the outset but planning ahead would have saved them a fortune in the long run and their lack of foresight has surely contributed towards the hospital not being able to fulfil its nursing requirements.
Southend Hospital does not invest enough in training nursing staff and have not done so for quite a number of years. There were/are many HCAs who were/are willing to train to become fully qualified nurses but could/can not afford to give up their salary to do so. Southend Hospital stopped their secondment program which allowed HCAs to train on the job as nurses while still recieving their salary. This investment in the training and staffing program may have been expensive at the outset but planning ahead would have saved them a fortune in the long run and their lack of foresight has surely contributed towards the hospital not being able to fulfil its nursing requirements. emcee
  • Score: 7

4:31pm Wed 11 Jun 14

John Right says...

Despicable, those so called nurses need to renamed, _______ useless
Despicable, those so called nurses need to renamed, _______ useless John Right
  • Score: -1

4:34pm Wed 11 Jun 14

runwellian says...

Should we be blaming the hospital or the government?
I believe Basildon hospital pay more because they are closer to London.

Surely one the problems you cannot recruit nurses is because they can all work for agencies and get paid more, so why tie your self to one hospital?
How many of these agency nurses already work full time in other areas?

It is okay to import nurses but lets hope they speak good plain English!
Should we be blaming the hospital or the government? I believe Basildon hospital pay more because they are closer to London. Surely one the problems you cannot recruit nurses is because they can all work for agencies and get paid more, so why tie your self to one hospital? How many of these agency nurses already work full time in other areas? It is okay to import nurses but lets hope they speak good plain English! runwellian
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Wed 11 Jun 14

jolllyboy says...

You have to blame the hospital when nurses are known to be on their mobile when they are asked for bedpans (fact). Wards have been closed over time and beds reduced regardless of the fact we have a rising population. The stroke ward is held to be the best and yet we close beds. babies will need to be born whatever the staff situation is. Where do these patients go instead?
It has to be asked why this hospital is having so much difficulty.
You have to blame the hospital when nurses are known to be on their mobile when they are asked for bedpans (fact). Wards have been closed over time and beds reduced regardless of the fact we have a rising population. The stroke ward is held to be the best and yet we close beds. babies will need to be born whatever the staff situation is. Where do these patients go instead? It has to be asked why this hospital is having so much difficulty. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

6:22pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle.
The current pay scale is shown below:
http://www.nhsemploy
ers.org/~/media/Empl
oyers/Publications/A
fC%20pay%20bands%20a
nd%20points%20poster
%202014%20FINAL.pdf
If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit!
[quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle. The current pay scale is shown below: http://www.nhsemploy ers.org/~/media/Empl oyers/Publications/A fC%20pay%20bands%20a nd%20points%20poster %202014%20FINAL.pdf If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit! Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

6:34pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
I am not from Essex, but could someone confirm is the trust running this hospital; Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust?
[quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]I am not from Essex, but could someone confirm is the trust running this hospital; Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust? Dr Martin
  • Score: 1

4:09pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
If you could answer my query I made it would be good of you
[quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]If you could answer my query I made it would be good of you Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

6:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

essexjack07 says...

Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
No they are not, Southend has it's own terms and conditions away from the national agreement. Staff there are paid less.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]No they are not, Southend has it's own terms and conditions away from the national agreement. Staff there are paid less. essexjack07
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Fri 13 Jun 14

essexjack07 says...

Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle.
The current pay scale is shown below:
http://www.nhsemploy

ers.org/~/media/Empl

oyers/Publications/A

fC%20pay%20bands%20a

nd%20points%20poster

%202014%20FINAL.pdf
If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit!
As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle. The current pay scale is shown below: http://www.nhsemploy ers.org/~/media/Empl oyers/Publications/A fC%20pay%20bands%20a nd%20points%20poster %202014%20FINAL.pdf If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit![/p][/quote]As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement. essexjack07
  • Score: 0

6:36am Sat 14 Jun 14

Dr Martin says...

essexjack07 wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle.
The current pay scale is shown below:
http://www.nhsemploy


ers.org/~/media/Empl


oyers/Publications/A


fC%20pay%20bands%20a


nd%20points%20poster


%202014%20FINAL.pdf
If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit!
As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement.
But is it run by Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust?
[quote][p][bold]essexjack07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle. The current pay scale is shown below: http://www.nhsemploy ers.org/~/media/Empl oyers/Publications/A fC%20pay%20bands%20a nd%20points%20poster %202014%20FINAL.pdf If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit![/p][/quote]As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement.[/p][/quote]But is it run by Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust? Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

4:07pm Tue 17 Jun 14

essexjack07 says...

Dr Martin wrote:
essexjack07 wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
Avocati wrote:
I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country?

Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers.

Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust.

Scandalous!

The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap!

It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.
All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on
it is a national pay agreement.
I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time!

Agenda for change Doctor?
The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle.
The current pay scale is shown below:
http://www.nhsemploy



ers.org/~/media/Empl



oyers/Publications/A



fC%20pay%20bands%20a



nd%20points%20poster



%202014%20FINAL.pdf
If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit!
As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement.
But is it run by Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust?
It is run by Southend Hospital, pay and conditions are decided by the directors although they do tend to follow the national agreement, which then seems pointless them having their own terms and conditions. Only a very small number of staff are on AFC contracts they will not allow the rest of the staff to move away from their local terms and conditions.
When staff voted to remain on local terms and conditions the trust said that in doing so staff would always be equal to or better off than being on the national agreement, they never kept to this.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]essexjack07[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avocati[/bold] wrote: I suppose the staffing problems may well have it's root in the fact that the Trust are one of the lowest paying in the Country? Ergo, they get what they pay for, overworked good staff who are finding it difficult to cope, hence the need for expensive Agency workers. Add to the ward closures the excess time spent in A&E waiting to the very limit of the Patients Charter, and the same for follow up surgery and you can see this is becoming a failing Hospital Trust. Scandalous! The people pay them for a service through National Insurance and it's not cheap! It's the Trusts own fault, they seem to be completely mismanaged and deserve CQC attention.[/p][/quote]All NHS staff are paid the same depending on which Band (grade) they are on it is a national pay agreement.[/p][/quote]I am afraid they are not and have not been for some time! Agenda for change Doctor?[/p][/quote]The National pay agreement covers (nearly) all NHS staff in England and Wales so a newly qualified nurse (band 5) in Lets say Plymouth would get the same if he/she was in Coventry or Newcastle. The current pay scale is shown below: http://www.nhsemploy ers.org/~/media/Empl oyers/Publications/A fC%20pay%20bands%20a nd%20points%20poster %202014%20FINAL.pdf If this hospital or Trust have not implemented it then I suggest the unions need to step it up a bit![/p][/quote]As remarked earlier Southend is not part of the national agreement, they have there own terms and conditions and can set their own pay levels. They are as far as I am aware the only hospital in England outside the national agreement.[/p][/quote]But is it run by Southend University Hospital NHS foundation Trust?[/p][/quote]It is run by Southend Hospital, pay and conditions are decided by the directors although they do tend to follow the national agreement, which then seems pointless them having their own terms and conditions. Only a very small number of staff are on AFC contracts they will not allow the rest of the staff to move away from their local terms and conditions. When staff voted to remain on local terms and conditions the trust said that in doing so staff would always be equal to or better off than being on the national agreement, they never kept to this. essexjack07
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