War of words over hospital’s finances

Echo: Stephen Metcalfe Stephen Metcalfe

A WAR of words has broken out between two sparring MPs, over Basildon Hospital’s financial woes.

Last month, the Echo revealed the Trust was working with a deficit of £9million.

Mike Le-Surf, Labour’s parliamentary candidate for Tory Stephen Metcalfe’s South Basildon and East Thurrock seat, suggested the woes were due to the Goverment’s reorganisation of the NHS.

Mr Le-Surf said: “Patient care is going backwards as more people are forced to wait longer in A&E, cancelled operations are at their highest for a decade, and waits for vital cancer tests and treatments are increasing too.”

But Mr Metcalfe hit back, accusing Labour of scaremongering.

He said: “I appreciate that £4.66m is a substantial sum, but this must be understood within the context of the improving standards and planned investments designed to ensure patients are receiving the best possible treatment.”

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12:27pm Mon 23 Jun 14

whateverhappened says...

One sparring MP, the other fella never heard of him..
One sparring MP, the other fella never heard of him.. whateverhappened
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1:15pm Mon 23 Jun 14

billybloggs says...

Stephen Metcalfe is the worse MP.Basildon has ever had he is self seeking he never stood up for the hospital over blood test and only makes comments about the negative side of the hospital .
Stephen Metcalfe is the worse MP.Basildon has ever had he is self seeking he never stood up for the hospital over blood test and only makes comments about the negative side of the hospital . billybloggs
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3:32pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Kim Gandy says...

Le Surf is not an MP so the heading is misleading.

Neither is he likely to be given the competition he has got from UKIP.

The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade.

No thankyou.
Le Surf is not an MP so the heading is misleading. Neither is he likely to be given the competition he has got from UKIP. The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade. No thankyou. Kim Gandy
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3:37pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Kim Gandy says...

"But Mr Metcalfe hit back, accusing Labour of scaremongering."

Not Labour scaremongering? Surely not. As IF.... :P

However, I am sure Le Surf needs no lessons in that; it's probably built into the Labour Constitution.

Callaghan is an expert on the subject. Pity he isn't on anything else. Certainly not winning elections. Neither is he even near a bronze medal on manners, dignity, humility and fairness.

Labour is on the back foot hence all this ridiculous argy bargy. Best thing they could do is get some decent, approachable, mature candidates who understand how ordinary people think, not a bunch of toxic bumfluff milksops fresh out of redbrick university.

#sorelosers
"But Mr Metcalfe hit back, accusing Labour of scaremongering." Not Labour scaremongering? Surely not. As IF.... :P However, I am sure Le Surf needs no lessons in that; it's probably built into the Labour Constitution. Callaghan is an expert on the subject. Pity he isn't on anything else. Certainly not winning elections. Neither is he even near a bronze medal on manners, dignity, humility and fairness. Labour is on the back foot hence all this ridiculous argy bargy. Best thing they could do is get some decent, approachable, mature candidates who understand how ordinary people think, not a bunch of toxic bumfluff milksops fresh out of redbrick university. #sorelosers Kim Gandy
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4:26pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Devils Advocate says...

Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around.
Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around. Devils Advocate
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5:27pm Mon 23 Jun 14

cropped hero says...

'The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade'

But Basildon cannot become a London borough. For goodness sake do you know nothing? Why do you compare it to Tower Hamlets?
'The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade' But Basildon cannot become a London borough. For goodness sake do you know nothing? Why do you compare it to Tower Hamlets? cropped hero
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6:05pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Kim Gandy says...

Devils Advocate wrote:
Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around.
And what is wrong with being right wing?

To tell people what "wing" they are allowed to subscribe to is in itself fascism.

I am not a UKIP member nor, BY CHOICE a member of any political party, not that it is anything to do with you or anyone else for that matter.

I have nothing to hide.

At least all my comments are undersigned with my REAL NAME.
[quote][p][bold]Devils Advocate[/bold] wrote: Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around.[/p][/quote]And what is wrong with being right wing? To tell people what "wing" they are allowed to subscribe to is in itself fascism. I am not a UKIP member nor, BY CHOICE a member of any political party, not that it is anything to do with you or anyone else for that matter. I have nothing to hide. At least all my comments are undersigned with my REAL NAME. Kim Gandy
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6:08pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Kim Gandy says...

cropped hero wrote:
'The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade'

But Basildon cannot become a London borough. For goodness sake do you know nothing? Why do you compare it to Tower Hamlets?
Actually I know more than you.

Do you attend council meetings, avail yourself of information, campaign for anything, or have you stood for election, served in public office or even stood for parliament.

I have done all of the above.

Give Labour a chance, they will turn it into yet another London borough outpost. It's happened elsewhere and is creeping outwards. It is a possibility.

Don't try and intimidate me. I've been around politics for a decade whereas I doubt you even bother to vote.

And when you address me, have the decency to do it under your real name.
[quote][p][bold]cropped hero[/bold] wrote: 'The last thing Basildon needs is Labour in charge and a London Borough of Basildon which would become Tower Hamlets on Thames within a decade' But Basildon cannot become a London borough. For goodness sake do you know nothing? Why do you compare it to Tower Hamlets?[/p][/quote]Actually I know more than you. Do you attend council meetings, avail yourself of information, campaign for anything, or have you stood for election, served in public office or even stood for parliament. I have done all of the above. Give Labour a chance, they will turn it into yet another London borough outpost. It's happened elsewhere and is creeping outwards. It is a possibility. Don't try and intimidate me. I've been around politics for a decade whereas I doubt you even bother to vote. And when you address me, have the decency to do it under your real name. Kim Gandy
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6:31pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Kim Gandy says...

Honestly, the half wits we get on this page.

Cue the usual assortment of scutters who will no doubt start putting up libellous, malicious comments based on photoshopped, hacked and cloned "evidence" from the pea-brains of HNH and UAF about how I eat babies for breakfast and am the second coming of the antichrist. And apparently a fully paid up member of any neo Nazi group you care to mention. Hilarious.

All lies, none of it with any basis in the truth - and if the usual critics turn up asking me to prove my claims I say yet again, your research skills are abysmal because if you search through some of the utter cr@p there is about me online you will eventually find the truth. But it's easier to peddle lies and scaremongering isn't it, especially if you're a braindead lefty who trots out accusations of "isms" like a mantra.

And actually, you're the ones making the allegations. YOU prove it..

Also, I reiterate, none of the comments, accusations and slander you publish on here can bear any relation to the truth, without a) documentary proof that would stand up in a court of law (and I have challenged said idiots to present it to me in front of witnesses, with no response) and b) without you have the honesty and courage to post under your own name not some barmpot pseudonym.

There are some decent people on here whom I have met face to face and have no problem with at all, nor they with me - but as usual, all the slanderous, hysterical liars, hypocrites and naysayers have never materialised in real time. Nor have any of their claims ever proved to be true. That's because I have NEVER been ejected from anything, nor have I been a member of any far right outfit.

Funny that.

Honestly, before trying to correct , or be sarcastic with me, you need to have your facts right, proper research and reasoned argument.

If you are an armchair politician, keyboard warrior or just a plain idiot, don't bother to challenge me. It's too boring. And I really can't be doing with fools. They're so fatiguing.

I didn't have to go into this sort of detail but since I don't know who some of you are and you appear to be totally ignorant, I thought I should fill you in. Before the usual nutjobs, like Norris and co arrive.

Just out of courtesy. (Look it up in the dictionary under C).

Now, can we see you posting under real names please. I have the courtesy to do it. Do you? How about some manners, courtesy and posts that are properly researched. Let's try to bring the intellectual level of this website up a bit, yes?

Cue usual attacks...... (which I can't be bothered to read).
Honestly, the half wits we get on this page. Cue the usual assortment of scutters who will no doubt start putting up libellous, malicious comments based on photoshopped, hacked and cloned "evidence" from the pea-brains of HNH and UAF about how I eat babies for breakfast and am the second coming of the antichrist. And apparently a fully paid up member of any neo Nazi group you care to mention. Hilarious. All lies, none of it with any basis in the truth - and if the usual critics turn up asking me to prove my claims I say yet again, your research skills are abysmal because if you search through some of the utter cr@p there is about me online you will eventually find the truth. But it's easier to peddle lies and scaremongering isn't it, especially if you're a braindead lefty who trots out accusations of "isms" like a mantra. And actually, you're the ones making the allegations. YOU prove it.. Also, I reiterate, none of the comments, accusations and slander you publish on here can bear any relation to the truth, without a) documentary proof that would stand up in a court of law (and I have challenged said idiots to present it to me in front of witnesses, with no response) and b) without you have the honesty and courage to post under your own name not some barmpot pseudonym. There are some decent people on here whom I have met face to face and have no problem with at all, nor they with me - but as usual, all the slanderous, hysterical liars, hypocrites and naysayers have never materialised in real time. Nor have any of their claims ever proved to be true. That's because I have NEVER been ejected from anything, nor have I been a member of any far right outfit. Funny that. Honestly, before trying to correct , or be sarcastic with me, you need to have your facts right, proper research and reasoned argument. If you are an armchair politician, keyboard warrior or just a plain idiot, don't bother to challenge me. It's too boring. And I really can't be doing with fools. They're so fatiguing. I didn't have to go into this sort of detail but since I don't know who some of you are and you appear to be totally ignorant, I thought I should fill you in. Before the usual nutjobs, like Norris and co arrive. Just out of courtesy. (Look it up in the dictionary under C). Now, can we see you posting under real names please. I have the courtesy to do it. Do you? How about some manners, courtesy and posts that are properly researched. Let's try to bring the intellectual level of this website up a bit, yes? Cue usual attacks...... (which I can't be bothered to read). Kim Gandy
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6:59pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Devils Advocate says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Devils Advocate wrote:
Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around.
And what is wrong with being right wing?

To tell people what "wing" they are allowed to subscribe to is in itself fascism.

I am not a UKIP member nor, BY CHOICE a member of any political party, not that it is anything to do with you or anyone else for that matter.

I have nothing to hide.

At least all my comments are undersigned with my REAL NAME.
Sorry Kim, but you are the one who is always raising the "Wings" of politics. I come from a very long line of people who worked for a living and fought hard to better the lot of the Serf. I will never duck from under what I stand for and what, in my own small way, I feel I have achieved for the working people, and that includes myself. I think the backbone of this world are the working folk and, because of that, I am a little sensitive to the slagging of people who actually try to benefit others, not just themselves.
Having seen, over the last few years, all the publicity you have achieved by using your own name, you would want me to curse myself with that? Before you go on one of your usual raves, consider my viewpoint. It is not my name, it is that which I stand for you are haranguing. Why you strive so hard to extract names? Plus, if the articles I have read about you are libellous. why don't you do something about it, or is trying to demean everyone with a viewpoint different to yours what you really are about? You always dig your claws into Labour no matter what the subject. Why is that?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Devils Advocate[/bold] wrote: Red flag to the bull yet again Ms Gandy? Your right wing flying of the UKIP flag must be one of the most devoted callings for miles around.[/p][/quote]And what is wrong with being right wing? To tell people what "wing" they are allowed to subscribe to is in itself fascism. I am not a UKIP member nor, BY CHOICE a member of any political party, not that it is anything to do with you or anyone else for that matter. I have nothing to hide. At least all my comments are undersigned with my REAL NAME.[/p][/quote]Sorry Kim, but you are the one who is always raising the "Wings" of politics. I come from a very long line of people who worked for a living and fought hard to better the lot of the Serf. I will never duck from under what I stand for and what, in my own small way, I feel I have achieved for the working people, and that includes myself. I think the backbone of this world are the working folk and, because of that, I am a little sensitive to the slagging of people who actually try to benefit others, not just themselves. Having seen, over the last few years, all the publicity you have achieved by using your own name, you would want me to curse myself with that? Before you go on one of your usual raves, consider my viewpoint. It is not my name, it is that which I stand for you are haranguing. Why you strive so hard to extract names? Plus, if the articles I have read about you are libellous. why don't you do something about it, or is trying to demean everyone with a viewpoint different to yours what you really are about? You always dig your claws into Labour no matter what the subject. Why is that? Devils Advocate
  • Score: 3

7:31pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Howard Cháse says...

billybloggs wrote:
Stephen Metcalfe is the worse MP.Basildon has ever had he is self seeking he never stood up for the hospital over blood test and only makes comments about the negative side of the hospital .
Amess was the worst ever.
[quote][p][bold]billybloggs[/bold] wrote: Stephen Metcalfe is the worse MP.Basildon has ever had he is self seeking he never stood up for the hospital over blood test and only makes comments about the negative side of the hospital .[/p][/quote]Amess was the worst ever. Howard Cháse
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8:22am Tue 24 Jun 14

cropped hero says...

'Honestly, before trying to correct , or be sarcastic with me, you need to have your facts right, proper research and reasoned argument.'

but how many times has it been shown here that you do not have your facts right? you have not conducted proper research? reasoned argument? Most of your arguments aren't. They are rants,turning everything into your own very warped view of things on Planet Kim. Your research is laughable -dear Mayor has raised millions for charity. Actually it was 25k. A great deal ands she must be congratulated for it but not quite the millions that you led us to believe. Your alleged insider knowledge of the comings and goings at Basildon Council. No one there wants to know you..
You constantly bang on about having held public office but what were you doing? your campaign to become an MP was a disaster with only 500 votes cast in your name. You are no longer a school governor,and we all know why. You are not very good at anything you do are you.

Finally do let other people voice their opinions without replying with a massive right wing rant that is both ill informed and unedifying. You might actually learn something.

Please tell me how Basildon can become a London Borough.
'Honestly, before trying to correct , or be sarcastic with me, you need to have your facts right, proper research and reasoned argument.' but how many times has it been shown here that you do not have your facts right? you have not conducted proper research? reasoned argument? Most of your arguments aren't. They are rants,turning everything into your own very warped view of things on Planet Kim. Your research is laughable -dear Mayor has raised millions for charity. Actually it was 25k. A great deal ands she must be congratulated for it but not quite the millions that you led us to believe. Your alleged insider knowledge of the comings and goings at Basildon Council. No one there wants to know you.. You constantly bang on about having held public office but what were you doing? your campaign to become an MP was a disaster with only 500 votes cast in your name. You are no longer a school governor,and we all know why. You are not very good at anything you do are you. Finally do let other people voice their opinions without replying with a massive right wing rant that is both ill informed and unedifying. You might actually learn something. Please tell me how Basildon can become a London Borough. cropped hero
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