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RESIDENTS will be trained to catch speeding drivers in Langdon Hills.

Essex Police has launched community speed watch in the area and is looking for volunteers to take up the challenge.

People will be shown how to use the gun and then give up some time a month to catch speeding motorists.

To volunteer contact PCSO Steve Bohea by emailing stephen.bohea@essex.pnn.police.uk or phone 07875 003517.

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2:19pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Maddogg says...

Good idea. Why can't we have these in Southend ? I would be quite willing to give up some of my time to catch some of the maniacs who treat our local roads like Silverstone.
Good idea. Why can't we have these in Southend ? I would be quite willing to give up some of my time to catch some of the maniacs who treat our local roads like Silverstone. Maddogg
  • Score: 5

2:52pm Thu 26 Jun 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless.
So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless. GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 12

3:23pm Thu 26 Jun 14

pembury53 says...

what sort of curtain twitching to55er sign up for that....... deserve to get run over by an infuriated motorist
what sort of curtain twitching to55er sign up for that....... deserve to get run over by an infuriated motorist pembury53
  • Score: -7

4:22pm Thu 26 Jun 14

billybloggs says...

what a bloody cheek do the job for them, they get paid if you volunteer do you get a percentage of the fines
what a bloody cheek do the job for them, they get paid if you volunteer do you get a percentage of the fines billybloggs
  • Score: 10

4:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

billybloggs says...

on reading this how can a non policeman have the power to levy fines on motorist surly that's illegal.
on reading this how can a non policeman have the power to levy fines on motorist surly that's illegal. billybloggs
  • Score: 7

4:46pm Thu 26 Jun 14

niknak588 says...

I don't think they intend for local residents to access personal data on the police / dvla database and personally send out fines from their home. I think their aim is to catch DANGEROUS speeding motorist off their guard (as they tend to slow down for the fixed speed cameras). I think the POLICE will then look at the camera evidence and decide if to warrant a ticket. I think it's good to pull together as a community and help make our streets SAFE. If you don't break the law and speed then u have no worries.
I don't think they intend for local residents to access personal data on the police / dvla database and personally send out fines from their home. I think their aim is to catch DANGEROUS speeding motorist off their guard (as they tend to slow down for the fixed speed cameras). I think the POLICE will then look at the camera evidence and decide if to warrant a ticket. I think it's good to pull together as a community and help make our streets SAFE. If you don't break the law and speed then u have no worries. niknak588
  • Score: 9

5:41pm Thu 26 Jun 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour)
. This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target?
So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour) . This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target? GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: -9

6:20pm Thu 26 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

Can't wait, like fishing in a barrel, Im gonna hide then jump out to target all the idiots, the young the show offs..
Can't wait, like fishing in a barrel, Im gonna hide then jump out to target all the idiots, the young the show offs.. sesibollox
  • Score: 1

6:21pm Thu 26 Jun 14

sesibollox says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour)

. This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target?
Next door neighbour or Mother, doesn't matter, do wrong get snapped.. can't wait
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour) . This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target?[/p][/quote]Next door neighbour or Mother, doesn't matter, do wrong get snapped.. can't wait sesibollox
  • Score: 7

7:35pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Howard Cháse says...

Can I fly the Police Helicopter around chasing nogoodniks please. I don't mind doing the training....
Can I fly the Police Helicopter around chasing nogoodniks please. I don't mind doing the training.... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 3

7:52pm Thu 26 Jun 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

sesibollox wrote:
GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour)


. This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target?
Next door neighbour or Mother, doesn't matter, do wrong get snapped.. can't wait
Read it again - the risk is subjective application
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: So the Police just want a camera operator then? In which case, install a proper machine (which will not be selective and not "snap" the next-door-neighbour) . This sounds like the thin edge of a very thick wedge. And as regards safety, recent announcements suggest that using a mobile is more dangerous than drunken-driving, let alone speeding - wrong (for which read "easy") target?[/p][/quote]Next door neighbour or Mother, doesn't matter, do wrong get snapped.. can't wait[/p][/quote]Read it again - the risk is subjective application GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Devils Advocate says...

They did this at the school by Garon Park. Their was a police officer present, but residents operated the camera. I believe cautions were then sent by mail to the speedster.
But, all you lovers of flouting the law, have you read how much the fines are going to be for speeding. Plus, there will not be a "Tolerance" which means, as it used to, if you are doing 36 mph in a 30 mph area you will be charged with speeding. There is a 10% error allowance on the speedometer, but that has to check out as an error. Like it was when I was a young smartypants. The speed measuring device was always hidden and the stoppers lay in wait at the other end of a radio. If you argued about your speedometer, them the car was taken to "the measured mile" and the instrument checked. (At your expense. if accurate, then the penalty stood!)
They did this at the school by Garon Park. Their was a police officer present, but residents operated the camera. I believe cautions were then sent by mail to the speedster. But, all you lovers of flouting the law, have you read how much the fines are going to be for speeding. Plus, there will not be a "Tolerance" which means, as it used to, if you are doing 36 mph in a 30 mph area you will be charged with speeding. There is a 10% error allowance on the speedometer, but that has to check out as an error. Like it was when I was a young smartypants. The speed measuring device was always hidden and the stoppers lay in wait at the other end of a radio. If you argued about your speedometer, them the car was taken to "the measured mile" and the instrument checked. (At your expense. if accurate, then the penalty stood!) Devils Advocate
  • Score: 9

12:30am Fri 27 Jun 14

smiffy22 says...

GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless.
I expect you already have the same powers in many cases. Use your own camera to photograph someone using a telephone while driving, send it to the police, and insist they take action against the person (for example).
Regards
Smiffy22
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless.[/p][/quote]I expect you already have the same powers in many cases. Use your own camera to photograph someone using a telephone while driving, send it to the police, and insist they take action against the person (for example). Regards Smiffy22 smiffy22
  • Score: 2

11:51am Fri 27 Jun 14

Nowthatsworthknowing says...

smiffy22 wrote:
GrumpyofLeigh wrote:
So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless.
I expect you already have the same powers in many cases. Use your own camera to photograph someone using a telephone while driving, send it to the police, and insist they take action against the person (for example).
Regards
Smiffy22
I often report people, for a number of matters, it's my duty.
[quote][p][bold]smiffy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GrumpyofLeigh[/bold] wrote: So the ability to levy a fine is being given by the Police to local residents? The Police are responsible for the law - since when did they get the power to delegate that responsibility and is it desirable? But if that is the way forward, can I have the authority to fine any driver I see on a mobile phone, any dog-owner who lets his pet c**p on the pavement, anyone seen in Leigh dressed like a chav....the list could be endless.[/p][/quote]I expect you already have the same powers in many cases. Use your own camera to photograph someone using a telephone while driving, send it to the police, and insist they take action against the person (for example). Regards Smiffy22[/p][/quote]I often report people, for a number of matters, it's my duty. Nowthatsworthknowing
  • Score: 0

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