Neighbours oppose school venue plan

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ANGRY neighbours are strongly opposed to a school’s plans to use its hall as an entertainment venue in the evenings.

Basildon’s Woodlands School, has applied to Basildon Council for a licence to stage live music and drama shows seven days a week until 11.45pm.

The licence would also allow films to be screened and the school to hire out its facilities to groups and private individuals.

However, people living nearby fear the proposals would disturb their sleep in the early hours as customers left the school.

Many claim the handful of school plays and other evening events already staged at Woodlands are enough of a nuisance to make them oppose more regular use.

They are also worried visitors will block Lee Wootens Lane and Whiteshott, where parking restrictions end at 5pm.

Graham Rogers, 75, of Furrowfelde, said: “It’s bad enough on the weekends during the daytime, with the noise from football matches in the school grounds.

The thought of noise, potentially seven days a week, late at night, is beyond the pale.

“More worrying is the noise and disturbance caused in the streets afterwards.”

Graham Cooper, 40, of Lee Wootens Lane, added: "We fought for a long time to get parking restrictions imposed.

“People going to these events will, most likely, park in our roads, recreating a problem that we thought we had eliminated.

“I have no issue with events organised by and for the pupils and their parents, but I do have concerns for other events.

"What is to stop people bringing their own alcohol? I am fearful this will lead to crime and disorder in the area.”

The council has received ten letters objecting to the plans.

Ted Brading, Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinator for Whiteshott and Lee Wottens Lane, angrily accused the school of applying for the licence as a “money-making opportunity”. He said: “Evening events held at the school over the years have usually been very plainly heard by the local residents, but, because they are relatively few and far between, have been tolerated.

“Obviously, a school will be expected to hold occasional out-ofhours events for pupils, and indeed should be applauded for doing so. But the licence should include limits regarding the frequency of the events.”

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8:14am Mon 14 Jul 14

John Right says...

What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..
What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's .. John Right
  • Score: 0

9:24am Mon 14 Jul 14

Who_Flung_Dung says...

End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there!
End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there! Who_Flung_Dung
  • Score: 7

12:53pm Mon 14 Jul 14

southendie says...

Who_Flung_Dung wrote:
End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there!
Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different.
[quote][p][bold]Who_Flung_Dung[/bold] wrote: End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there![/p][/quote]Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different. southendie
  • Score: 9

4:19pm Mon 14 Jul 14

E.C.M. says...

southendie wrote:
Who_Flung_Dung wrote:
End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there!
Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different.
"So why should a school be any different"?

The answer my friend is because times have changed and education in particular, is evolving on a daily basis! Are you aware we no longer use chalk and a black board in the classroom?!

You need to follow the FIOFO philosophy...Fit In Or...!!!
[quote][p][bold]southendie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who_Flung_Dung[/bold] wrote: End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there![/p][/quote]Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different.[/p][/quote]"So why should a school be any different"? The answer my friend is because times have changed and education in particular, is evolving on a daily basis! Are you aware we no longer use chalk and a black board in the classroom?! You need to follow the FIOFO philosophy...Fit In Or...!!! E.C.M.
  • Score: -2

8:19pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

John Right wrote:
What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..
oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you.

Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching.

I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat.

Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it.

I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either.

This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter.

And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you.

Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh?
[quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..[/p][/quote]oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you. Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching. I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat. Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it. I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either. This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter. And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you. Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh? Kim Gandy
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

E.C.M. wrote:
southendie wrote:
Who_Flung_Dung wrote:
End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there!
Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different.
"So why should a school be any different"?

The answer my friend is because times have changed and education in particular, is evolving on a daily basis! Are you aware we no longer use chalk and a black board in the classroom?!

You need to follow the FIOFO philosophy...Fit In Or...!!!
And you need to follow your own advice. It applies to you too, in reverse.

Fitting in IS considering other people and the effects it may have on them. I am the last one to uphold political correctness and nanny state but I think everyone is entitled to be undisturbed in their own home, particularly by ill mannered types littering the place with cars and parking across their driveways, plus the noise going on until late at night, SEVEN days a week. Even people who live near pubs and clubs don't get it SEVEN days a week.

Like the other person who commented above, would YOU appreciate noise and people blocking your property SEVEN days a week?

Because I don't think you'd put up with that for one minute. It's OK for you to slag off others for not wanting it - until it happens to you. Then you'd be chewing the carpet wouldn't you?

I got this cr@p all the time when I lived at Crays Hill. Other people telling me what I should and should not put up with - always full of advice but from the comfortable position of not having to put up with it themselves.

You people really ought to start seeing both sides of the story and thinking out these situations properly before commenting.

And implying that people are still living in the Dark Ages just because they expect a bit of respect and consideration is ludicrous.

Typical attitude of folk who were dragged up by parents and a school system that preaches the "I'm all right Jack, pull the ladder up.." doctrine.

Why assume that all those who complain are in their dotage. There are still a lot of people out here, of all ages, who just want a bit of respect, dignity and consideration. Most people want to live peacefully without others invading their space and their tranquility, Maybe that's not possible all the time but at least SOME of the time we should all be able to expect it.

The world would be a better place if you followed MY philosophy.. remembering there are other people in the world who, like yourself, would like to have their space respected and their feelings taken into consideration.

Or does it only work one way with your sort?
[quote][p][bold]E.C.M.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southendie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Who_Flung_Dung[/bold] wrote: End of the day, you have bought a house next to a school. Youve got to expect events being held there![/p][/quote]Not at unsocial hours you don't. We live near a secondary school in Southend, and completely expected mums to block our drive and to hear noise and distruption during the day. We didn't however expect to hear loud music played at 10pm because the school rented out it's hall for an excercise class. You wouldn't want your neighbours making excessive noise at this time of night so why should a school be any different.[/p][/quote]"So why should a school be any different"? The answer my friend is because times have changed and education in particular, is evolving on a daily basis! Are you aware we no longer use chalk and a black board in the classroom?! You need to follow the FIOFO philosophy...Fit In Or...!!![/p][/quote]And you need to follow your own advice. It applies to you too, in reverse. Fitting in IS considering other people and the effects it may have on them. I am the last one to uphold political correctness and nanny state but I think everyone is entitled to be undisturbed in their own home, particularly by ill mannered types littering the place with cars and parking across their driveways, plus the noise going on until late at night, SEVEN days a week. Even people who live near pubs and clubs don't get it SEVEN days a week. Like the other person who commented above, would YOU appreciate noise and people blocking your property SEVEN days a week? Because I don't think you'd put up with that for one minute. It's OK for you to slag off others for not wanting it - until it happens to you. Then you'd be chewing the carpet wouldn't you? I got this cr@p all the time when I lived at Crays Hill. Other people telling me what I should and should not put up with - always full of advice but from the comfortable position of not having to put up with it themselves. You people really ought to start seeing both sides of the story and thinking out these situations properly before commenting. And implying that people are still living in the Dark Ages just because they expect a bit of respect and consideration is ludicrous. Typical attitude of folk who were dragged up by parents and a school system that preaches the "I'm all right Jack, pull the ladder up.." doctrine. Why assume that all those who complain are in their dotage. There are still a lot of people out here, of all ages, who just want a bit of respect, dignity and consideration. Most people want to live peacefully without others invading their space and their tranquility, Maybe that's not possible all the time but at least SOME of the time we should all be able to expect it. The world would be a better place if you followed MY philosophy.. remembering there are other people in the world who, like yourself, would like to have their space respected and their feelings taken into consideration. Or does it only work one way with your sort? Kim Gandy
  • Score: -3

9:37pm Mon 14 Jul 14

E.C.M. says...

Jeeez Kim, lighten up! How long did it take to write this ‘dissertation’? Get a life!

The school’s gonna open a few extra evenings…whoopee do!

If you move next door, you need to understand and fit into the scenarios that will arise. Otherwise, choose to live somewhere else, like I did and enjoy the peace and tranquillity that my choice allows!
Jeeez Kim, lighten up! How long did it take to write this ‘dissertation’? Get a life! The school’s gonna open a few extra evenings…whoopee do! If you move next door, you need to understand and fit into the scenarios that will arise. Otherwise, choose to live somewhere else, like I did and enjoy the peace and tranquillity that my choice allows! E.C.M.
  • Score: 1

8:58am Tue 15 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
John Right wrote:
What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..
oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you.

Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching.

I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat.

Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it.

I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either.

This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter.

And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you.

Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh?
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO..
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..[/p][/quote]oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you. Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching. I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat. Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it. I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either. This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter. And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you. Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh?[/p][/quote]DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.. sesibollox
  • Score: 2

10:16am Tue 15 Jul 14

John Right says...

sesibollox wrote:
Kim Gandy wrote:
John Right wrote:
What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..
oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you.

Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching.

I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat.

Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it.

I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either.

This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter.

And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you.

Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh?
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO..
Ha Ha
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Right[/bold] wrote: What a bunch of killjoys, probably the very same sort of people who have loud BBQ's ..[/p][/quote]oh do pipe down you silly man.. I'd like to see your reaction if they were staging loud performances till late at night seven days a week next door to you. Your sort make me laugh. Castigate anybody who objects to anything that threatens to disturb their peace yet if it were being inflicted on you, you'd be the first to start bellyaching. I live in a town centre and have to put up with idiots, mainly at weekends, yelling, screaming and fighting like something out of the OK Corral, outside my flat. Everybody is entitled to some peace and quiet especially at weekends. Nothing to do with being killjoys at all. Just normal expectations of enjoying your own home without selfish morons disturbing it. I don't mind some noise and accept that as a normal part of living in a town centre, but seven days a week till late at night, I don't think I'd like it much either. This is totally unacceptable and is not giving neighbours any kind of consideration. What sort of example is that to set to youngsters? Make as much racket as you want an disturb everybody else. Other people don't matter. And that is your attitude to life isn't it? As we often see by your ill thought out, ill considered postings and your condemnations of everything and anyone who disagrees with you. Typical leftie. "Everyone else can suffer as long as nobody inflicts it on me"... eh?[/p][/quote]DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO..[/p][/quote]Ha Ha John Right
  • Score: 0
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