Southend-on-Mud is disappearing

Southend-on-Mud is disappearing

Southend-on-Mud is disappearing

First published in News

A NEW investigation into the loss of Southend’s foreshore will take place under the authority’s new council this year.

The new rainbow administration will have councillors on the policy scrutiny committee looking into why mudflats appear to be disappearing.

Campaigners claim it could leave the town more vulnerable to the sea, as well as threatening Southend Pier and the borough’s fishing industry.

The proposal for a year-long review was put forward by retired fisherman Peter Wexham, a Lib Dem councillor for Leigh.

Previous studies, including an 11-month probe by the Environment Agency, absolved dredging for the DP World superport of blame last year.

Mr Wexham said: “We’ve been told why some things aren’t causing the erosion, but we have never been told what is causing the issue.

“Southend used to be famous for being called Southend-on- Mud, not Southend-on-Sea, but it is disappearing. The cocklers and bait diggers who are out there on a regular basis keep reporting more changes.”

His proposal was backed by Labour’s Judith McMahon.

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4:35pm Thu 24 Jul 14

John Right says...

Going going Gone...
Going going Gone... John Right
  • Score: -2

7:12pm Thu 24 Jul 14

keepitreal says...

Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!!
Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!! keepitreal
  • Score: 12

7:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Avocati says...

keepitreal wrote:
Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!!
About right in my view.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreal[/bold] wrote: Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!![/p][/quote]About right in my view. Avocati
  • Score: 7

8:03pm Thu 24 Jul 14

abd123 says...

The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence.
The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence. abd123
  • Score: 0

10:01pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Nebs says...

abd123 wrote:
The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence.
Everyone knows it's the dredging, but why should the port care.

Maybe Southend Council could try an experiment and dump all the mud, that was destined for the Shoebury sea wall, in the dredged channel and then see what happens to the mud.
[quote][p][bold]abd123[/bold] wrote: The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence.[/p][/quote]Everyone knows it's the dredging, but why should the port care. Maybe Southend Council could try an experiment and dump all the mud, that was destined for the Shoebury sea wall, in the dredged channel and then see what happens to the mud. Nebs
  • Score: 2

6:13am Fri 25 Jul 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

abd123 wrote:
The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence.
Was there a survey done before the dredging?
[quote][p][bold]abd123[/bold] wrote: The dredging has been the most regulated and studied anywhere in the world. All the government experts say it has not affected other areas. To counter this you would need millions of pounds of observations, data, scientific studies and experience in a highly technical field. Nobody outside universities, large corporations or governments could gather such evidence.[/p][/quote]Was there a survey done before the dredging? Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 1

9:37am Fri 25 Jul 14

dhd says...

Of course it's the dredging. I'm sorry but you cannot keeping mucking about with nature. Why do we always think we know best.
Of course it's the dredging. I'm sorry but you cannot keeping mucking about with nature. Why do we always think we know best. dhd
  • Score: 5

10:44am Fri 25 Jul 14

Nelly99 says...

dhd wrote:
Of course it's the dredging. I'm sorry but you cannot keeping mucking about with nature. Why do we always think we know best.
Totally agree! Dig a big trench for the container ships and nature is going to try and fill it in. Makes you wonder what would happen to the beaches if Boris Island ever sees the light of day.
[quote][p][bold]dhd[/bold] wrote: Of course it's the dredging. I'm sorry but you cannot keeping mucking about with nature. Why do we always think we know best.[/p][/quote]Totally agree! Dig a big trench for the container ships and nature is going to try and fill it in. Makes you wonder what would happen to the beaches if Boris Island ever sees the light of day. Nelly99
  • Score: 0

10:58am Fri 25 Jul 14

John Right says...

Natural erosion happens in cycles, in ten years time it will all be back
Natural erosion happens in cycles, in ten years time it will all be back John Right
  • Score: 1

11:31am Fri 25 Jul 14

Kim Gandy says...

keepitreal wrote:
Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!!
Somebody with a bit of common sense at last.

Why don't you contact the reporter of this story and offer to show them your findings.

Sounds quite a plausible theory to me.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreal[/bold] wrote: Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!![/p][/quote]Somebody with a bit of common sense at last. Why don't you contact the reporter of this story and offer to show them your findings. Sounds quite a plausible theory to me. Kim Gandy
  • Score: -1

1:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
keepitreal wrote:
Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!!
Somebody with a bit of common sense at last.

Why don't you contact the reporter of this story and offer to show them your findings.

Sounds quite a plausible theory to me.
But then so would rounding people up for deportation, Gandyism again...
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreal[/bold] wrote: Did I not tell you this when you shut east beach , all the ordinance found is due to mud disappearing due to the dredging for the super port. Please do not waste money on a survey I will show you the evidence for free, thank you Dubai ports for ruining another place in the world!!!!!![/p][/quote]Somebody with a bit of common sense at last. Why don't you contact the reporter of this story and offer to show them your findings. Sounds quite a plausible theory to me.[/p][/quote]But then so would rounding people up for deportation, Gandyism again... sesibollox
  • Score: -1

5:53pm Sat 26 Jul 14

John Bull 40 says...

If only they had asked the experts on this forum before they started on the port it would have saved all this bother, it couldn't be anything to do with Southend airport could it?
If only they had asked the experts on this forum before they started on the port it would have saved all this bother, it couldn't be anything to do with Southend airport could it? John Bull 40
  • Score: 0

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