Man fined £1,500 for chopping down a tree on his own land

Man fined £1,500 for chopping down a tree on his own land

Man fined £1,500 for chopping down a tree on his own land

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A MAN is out of pocket by more than £1,500 after chopping down an oak tree - which was on his own land.

Haulage contractor Peter Seales, of Juliet Way, Purfleet, was ordered to pay £667 fine as well as £828 costs and a £66 victim surcharge after pleading guilty to contravening a Tree Preservation Order (TPO) issued by Basildon Borough Council.

Basildon Magistrates’ Court heard how on October 23 last year Seales caused or permitted the destruction of a protected oak on land he owns south of St Annes, Southbourne Grove, in Wickford.

Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.”

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11:33am Wed 13 Aug 14

Bigmama1 says...

I bet he thinks it was worth a fine. Some of these oak trees are too large. At least it's gone and won't grow again.
I bet he thinks it was worth a fine. Some of these oak trees are too large. At least it's gone and won't grow again. Bigmama1
  • Score: -6

11:57am Wed 13 Aug 14

Ian P says...

I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?
I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can? Ian P
  • Score: 91

12:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Keptquiettillnow says...

Ian P wrote:
I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?
Or Southend Council. When a tree is in their way of progress it has to go.
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?[/p][/quote]Or Southend Council. When a tree is in their way of progress it has to go. Keptquiettillnow
  • Score: 57

12:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Howard Cháse says...

Ian P wrote:
I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?
They have been coming down like nine pins in Gloucester Park South in the past few years....
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?[/p][/quote]They have been coming down like nine pins in Gloucester Park South in the past few years.... Howard Cháse
  • Score: 48

12:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Russ13 says...

I don't get how this law can cover trees on private property, I think Mr Seale's has every right to feel hard done by.

Although £1500 is probably cheaper & quicker than going through the legal channels to request permission to remove the tree.
I don't get how this law can cover trees on private property, I think Mr Seale's has every right to feel hard done by. Although £1500 is probably cheaper & quicker than going through the legal channels to request permission to remove the tree. Russ13
  • Score: 6

12:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Dan-Hockley says...

Bloody ridiculous - councils destroy countless trees, shrubs and wildlife while cramming more and more houses in our borough.

But what I really don't understand is this bit:

"...£66 victim surcharge..."

Who's the victim? The tree? And if so, what on earth is the tree going to spend the money on?!?!?!?!?!?
Bloody ridiculous - councils destroy countless trees, shrubs and wildlife while cramming more and more houses in our borough. But what I really don't understand is this bit: "...£66 victim surcharge..." Who's the victim? The tree? And if so, what on earth is the tree going to spend the money on?!?!?!?!?!? Dan-Hockley
  • Score: 35

12:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

but it was a protected tree.
but it was a protected tree. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 22

12:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ian P says...

Robin Reliant wrote:
but it was a protected tree.
Obviously not quite as well protected as many thought.
[quote][p][bold]Robin Reliant[/bold] wrote: but it was a protected tree.[/p][/quote]Obviously not quite as well protected as many thought. Ian P
  • Score: 31

12:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ian P says...

Russ13 wrote:
I don't get how this law can cover trees on private property, I think Mr Seale's has every right to feel hard done by.

Although £1500 is probably cheaper & quicker than going through the legal channels to request permission to remove the tree.
I turned down the opportunity of buying a house in Eastwood several years ago because it had two trees on its boundary that had preservation orders on them. Even to trim the trees, to stop them getting too big and becoming a danger to the house, had to have council prior approval and I was advised professional tree surgeons should be used. Otherwise, if the trees died the house holder could be held responsible.
[quote][p][bold]Russ13[/bold] wrote: I don't get how this law can cover trees on private property, I think Mr Seale's has every right to feel hard done by. Although £1500 is probably cheaper & quicker than going through the legal channels to request permission to remove the tree.[/p][/quote]I turned down the opportunity of buying a house in Eastwood several years ago because it had two trees on its boundary that had preservation orders on them. Even to trim the trees, to stop them getting too big and becoming a danger to the house, had to have council prior approval and I was advised professional tree surgeons should be used. Otherwise, if the trees died the house holder could be held responsible. Ian P
  • Score: 28

12:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

DavidPreston says...

This is the council that knocked down a tree in Wickford Town Centre for the sake of slippery flags to be put down. I hope to see the council in court for breaking its own rules, but I won't hold my breath as its Basildon Council a law to its self.
This is the council that knocked down a tree in Wickford Town Centre for the sake of slippery flags to be put down. I hope to see the council in court for breaking its own rules, but I won't hold my breath as its Basildon Council a law to its self. DavidPreston
  • Score: 16

1:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

cropped hero says...

'wilful destruction' Councillor is not only chopping down a tree but building on green spaces that can never be recovered.

Elections send out strong messges as well.
'wilful destruction' Councillor is not only chopping down a tree but building on green spaces that can never be recovered. Elections send out strong messges as well. cropped hero
  • Score: 14

1:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sensible Man says...

Good - I think the fine should have been much higher.
Good - I think the fine should have been much higher. Sensible Man
  • Score: 4

3:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TheWizzard says...

Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.”

Unless, of course it's south of the A127
Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.” Unless, of course it's south of the A127 TheWizzard
  • Score: 8

3:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Devils Advocate says...

The obvious oversight here is that the law about protection orders on trees does not apply to the Council. They made the rules here and carefully avoided those same rules applying to themselves, even though the land they have sold off was not theirs to sell. It was, in fact, public land that they have in their trust to maintain for public use. The old adage regarding the law on land enclosures ( The law locks up the man or woman who steals a goose from off the common, but leaves the greater villain loose, who steals the common from the goose!) applies more to this council than any Lord in our history My house purchase was held up back in 1972 because of the introduction of this then new law, even though I never have had a tree on the land!
But new age Councillors seem to have learned a lot from their main protagonists, so now carry the highest qualification this Borough can afford them..... Honorary "Do as You likeys!"
The obvious oversight here is that the law about protection orders on trees does not apply to the Council. They made the rules here and carefully avoided those same rules applying to themselves, even though the land they have sold off was not theirs to sell. It was, in fact, public land that they have in their trust to maintain for public use. The old adage regarding the law on land enclosures ( The law locks up the man or woman who steals a goose from off the common, but leaves the greater villain loose, who steals the common from the goose!) applies more to this council than any Lord in our history My house purchase was held up back in 1972 because of the introduction of this then new law, even though I never have had a tree on the land! But new age Councillors seem to have learned a lot from their main protagonists, so now carry the highest qualification this Borough can afford them..... Honorary "Do as You likeys!" Devils Advocate
  • Score: 10

3:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

LostFaith.com says...

Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.

EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.
Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough. EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY. LostFaith.com
  • Score: 11

4:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Could have given it a disease, drill a hole in the root, inject petrol, it dies, then sell the wood, worth a fortune...
Could have given it a disease, drill a hole in the root, inject petrol, it dies, then sell the wood, worth a fortune... sesibollox
  • Score: -3

4:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sensible Man says...

sesibollox wrote:
Could have given it a disease, drill a hole in the root, inject petrol, it dies, then sell the wood, worth a fortune...
Do you ever do ANTHING but troll the Echo website with your nonsense?
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: Could have given it a disease, drill a hole in the root, inject petrol, it dies, then sell the wood, worth a fortune...[/p][/quote]Do you ever do ANTHING but troll the Echo website with your nonsense? Sensible Man
  • Score: 15

5:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Sensible Man wrote:
Good - I think the fine should have been much higher.
Do you do anything else than troll this comment section ? Get a Life..
[quote][p][bold]Sensible Man[/bold] wrote: Good - I think the fine should have been much higher.[/p][/quote]Do you do anything else than troll this comment section ? Get a Life.. sesibollox
  • Score: -3

7:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

annonnamus says...

It's a tree, a simple tree. Simple trees = revenue if chopped down.
Private land LOL. No such thing in the eyes of the council. Civil liberties abused. Legal robbery. Pen pushing policy makers with their unlawful treatment and fake court systems. Oh dear maybe some people will actually open their eyes to this LOL.
It's a tree, a simple tree. Simple trees = revenue if chopped down. Private land LOL. No such thing in the eyes of the council. Civil liberties abused. Legal robbery. Pen pushing policy makers with their unlawful treatment and fake court systems. Oh dear maybe some people will actually open their eyes to this LOL. annonnamus
  • Score: -1

8:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

_Lotus_ says...

It is a shame the same consideration was not taken regarding the great big tree on the roundabout outside Southend Victoria rail station - hell, they cut that one down no probem!

One rule for one, one rule for another we see. AGAIN!
It is a shame the same consideration was not taken regarding the great big tree on the roundabout outside Southend Victoria rail station - hell, they cut that one down no probem! One rule for one, one rule for another we see. AGAIN! _Lotus_
  • Score: 12

9:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bazza 1 says...

Shameful. Basildon Council has cut down hundreds of trees when they sold land for housing. Rubber stamped for the developers. And more trees coming down soon when they start building on the park land at Nicolas Lane/Ballards Walk. They soon cut them down when it suits them.
Shameful. Basildon Council has cut down hundreds of trees when they sold land for housing. Rubber stamped for the developers. And more trees coming down soon when they start building on the park land at Nicolas Lane/Ballards Walk. They soon cut them down when it suits them. bazza 1
  • Score: 8

10:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

LostFaith.com wrote:
Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.

EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.
Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth...
[quote][p][bold]LostFaith.com[/bold] wrote: Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough. EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.[/p][/quote]Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth... ThisYear
  • Score: -9

1:56am Thu 14 Aug 14

CHRISTMAS CAROL says...

Everybody knows you cant cut down oak trees
Everybody knows you cant cut down oak trees CHRISTMAS CAROL
  • Score: 0

7:32pm Thu 14 Aug 14

poortaxpayer says...

Keptquiettillnow wrote:
Ian P wrote:
I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?
Or Southend Council. When a tree is in their way of progress it has to go.
To be replaced with palm trees.
[quote][p][bold]Keptquiettillnow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many trees Basildon Council has destroyed in its quest to build on every green space it can?[/p][/quote]Or Southend Council. When a tree is in their way of progress it has to go.[/p][/quote]To be replaced with palm trees. poortaxpayer
  • Score: -1

7:56pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Eric the Red says...

ThisYear wrote:
LostFaith.com wrote:
Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.

EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.
Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth...
Hello, the bad penny ThisYear/LL appears as if by magic. Amazing how your 'friends' can **** all over us/Basildon Council and nothing is done.
[quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LostFaith.com[/bold] wrote: Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough. EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.[/p][/quote]Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth...[/p][/quote]Hello, the bad penny ThisYear/LL appears as if by magic. Amazing how your 'friends' can **** all over us/Basildon Council and nothing is done. Eric the Red
  • Score: 4

11:26pm Fri 15 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

Eric the Red wrote:
ThisYear wrote:
LostFaith.com wrote:
Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough.

EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.
Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth...
Hello, the bad penny ThisYear/LL appears as if by magic. Amazing how your 'friends' can **** all over us/Basildon Council and nothing is done.
Iv not been anywhere but you seem to drop out of the sky now and then like seagull muck..

Perhaps you felt i was talking about you (I could just as well have been)

Who's the 'us' moron?

Seems there is a woman from your community (perhaps a mate of yours?) who has been running Bas council a long race..why dont you have a word with her..
[quote][p][bold]Eric the Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ThisYear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LostFaith.com[/bold] wrote: Speaking after the court hearing, councillor Richard Moore, Basildon Council’s cabinet member for planning said: “I am pleased with the magistrate’s decision as it sends out a very strong message that this, and let’s be frank here, kind of wilful destruction and complete disregard of the law, will not be tolerated in our borough. EXCEPT IF YOUR A ****, THEN YOU CAN DO AS YOU LIKEY.[/p][/quote]Poor soul..has a dreadful life and so looks to blame others to feel of any worth...[/p][/quote]Hello, the bad penny ThisYear/LL appears as if by magic. Amazing how your 'friends' can **** all over us/Basildon Council and nothing is done.[/p][/quote]Iv not been anywhere but you seem to drop out of the sky now and then like seagull muck.. Perhaps you felt i was talking about you (I could just as well have been) Who's the 'us' moron? Seems there is a woman from your community (perhaps a mate of yours?) who has been running Bas council a long race..why dont you have a word with her.. ThisYear
  • Score: -4

8:34pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jolllyboy says...

Here in southend if you look carefully there appears, to me, to be a systematic removal of trees - a tree here and a tree there, sometimes several, all done quickkly with no obvious notices on trees (ha ha) to say it is to be done. My theory is that it is to save spending money on the pruning. But we are ending up with less and less greenary - even our parks are getting plainer and plainer, especially around hadleigh.
Here in southend if you look carefully there appears, to me, to be a systematic removal of trees - a tree here and a tree there, sometimes several, all done quickkly with no obvious notices on trees (ha ha) to say it is to be done. My theory is that it is to save spending money on the pruning. But we are ending up with less and less greenary - even our parks are getting plainer and plainer, especially around hadleigh. jolllyboy
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Letmetryagain says...

I assume the council would have paid for any damage caused by the tree ?
I assume the council would have paid for any damage caused by the tree ? Letmetryagain
  • Score: 0

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