Council in 'rubbish racketeering' row

What a load of rubbish – George Whatley with the a council green waste bag

What a load of rubbish – George Whatley with the a council green waste bag

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CASTLE Point Council has been accused of “racketeering”

after refusing to pick up rubbish unless it is in branded bags.

Binmen working for the Council left bags of garden waste by the side of the road, because it wasn’t in bags they sell themselves.

George Whatley’s daughter bought her garden sacks, which are biodegradable, from a Canvey supermarket, because they were cheaper than the branded bags the council have.

But binmen from the council told her they were only allowed to pick up official council ones.

Mr Whatley, of Limburg Road, Canvey, is demanding the authority changes the policy.

He said: “The Castle Point Council green waste sacks cost £3.30 a roll.

“You can go and buy them elsewhere and they’re much cheaper.

“But they just won’t take them away.

“I rang them up and demanded answers, but they just kept saying it’s their policy. It’s racketeering.”

In the end, Mr Whatley’s daughter Tracy, of Labworth Road, Canvey, had to take her garden waste down to the tip – which would also not accept them in the sacks.

She had to rip them open to empty the contents.

For £3.30, Castle Point residents get 20 bin sacks, which are made of corn starch and degrade properly.

But Mr Whatley said he and other residents were able to buy them cheaper elsewhere.

Initially, a Castle Point Council spokesman said the council’s facilities could only handle bags made from corn starch and that was why the rules were put in place.

The council said it would be reviewing the policy.

She said: “We only accept waste in corn starch sacks as these are compostable and decompose quickly.

“Sacks sold as biodegradable take much longer to break down and our treatment facility will not accept them.

“Just because some bags say ‘degradable’ and ‘biodegradable’ does not mean they are compostable.

“At the time we introduced the service, corn starch bags were not widely available so for simplicity we asked residents to use the sacks from our supplier.

However, we are looking into the requirement to use the council sacks as corn starch sacks are nowmore widely available.”

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6:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Chuck it at the entrance to the tip by Benfleet bridge at night, don't put up with these morons
Chuck it at the entrance to the tip by Benfleet bridge at night, don't put up with these morons sesibollox
  • Score: 6

6:29pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Robin Reliant says...

Mr George wrote:
“I rang them up and demanded answers, but they just kept saying it’s their policy. It’s racketeering.”

so they openly admit it then, thats very bold to admit to racketeering, Mr George does like getting in the Echo a lot.
Mr George wrote: “I rang them up and demanded answers, but they just kept saying it’s their policy. It’s racketeering.” so they openly admit it then, thats very bold to admit to racketeering, Mr George does like getting in the Echo a lot. Robin Reliant
  • Score: 4

6:32pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jolllyboy says...

We nearly all have gardens. It is a racket to have to pay for themat all to take garden rubbish because they make money out of it when it composts down. ! It is the same in southend. We pay for stuff to be taken away already we should not have to pay twice. That is what our rates are for.
We nearly all have gardens. It is a racket to have to pay for themat all to take garden rubbish because they make money out of it when it composts down. ! It is the same in southend. We pay for stuff to be taken away already we should not have to pay twice. That is what our rates are for. jolllyboy
  • Score: 5

7:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Kim Gandy says...

More warmist bowlox from the usual caterwauling lefties.

Green policies and green taxes cost ordinary people a bomb. "Global warming" is a luxury we can ill afford.

It's time these lefties stopped holding us to ransom with their increasingly hysterical obsession with the minutiae of so called green policy and using it as an excuse to keep creating stealth taxes.

Recycling is a good idea; makes sense and so does composting but when it starts hitting people in the pocket it becomes a pointless exercise. You simply cannot dictate to people who are paying their council tax to get their rubbish collected.

Collect it and shut up.

We have been conned into the idea that planet saving gadgets and batcave lightbulbs will save on energy and cut our bills.

Absolute rubbish.

Green policies should cost us less not more - and if people can get things cheaper elsewhere they will. And you can't blame them.

We need to shut these eco fascists right up.
More warmist bowlox from the usual caterwauling lefties. Green policies and green taxes cost ordinary people a bomb. "Global warming" is a luxury we can ill afford. It's time these lefties stopped holding us to ransom with their increasingly hysterical obsession with the minutiae of so called green policy and using it as an excuse to keep creating stealth taxes. Recycling is a good idea; makes sense and so does composting but when it starts hitting people in the pocket it becomes a pointless exercise. You simply cannot dictate to people who are paying their council tax to get their rubbish collected. Collect it and shut up. We have been conned into the idea that planet saving gadgets and batcave lightbulbs will save on energy and cut our bills. Absolute rubbish. Green policies should cost us less not more - and if people can get things cheaper elsewhere they will. And you can't blame them. We need to shut these eco fascists right up. Kim Gandy
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

What about flat-dwellers? Everyone generates household rubbish but not everyone generates garden rubbish so if you can't be ar**d to deal with yourself and want the Council to, then pay up (says he who coughs up for a wheelie bin).
What about flat-dwellers? Everyone generates household rubbish but not everyone generates garden rubbish so if you can't be ar**d to deal with yourself and want the Council to, then pay up (says he who coughs up for a wheelie bin). GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: -6

8:24pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Bluebs says...

Grumpy..we do pay for the council to deal with it, you in your little flat pay less Council Tax than I do in my very big house with a very big garden..luckily my gardener takes the waste away..bless him !!
Grumpy..we do pay for the council to deal with it, you in your little flat pay less Council Tax than I do in my very big house with a very big garden..luckily my gardener takes the waste away..bless him !! Bluebs
  • Score: 6

9:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Gingabeech1 says...

Even when you take garden rubbish to the tip in the proper council bags you still have to empty them out, because they don't want them in the containers. We can only assume that when they are collected from our verges on rubbish day there an army of workers dutifully emptying the bags out so not a single one is mixed with our green stuff. Yeah right!!!! If it can be collected in the bags, it should be able to be left at the tip in those bags as far as I'm concerned. I did once rebel and throw two bags in their container, but they allegedly cause contamination. Oh dear!!!!!!
Even when you take garden rubbish to the tip in the proper council bags you still have to empty them out, because they don't want them in the containers. We can only assume that when they are collected from our verges on rubbish day there an army of workers dutifully emptying the bags out so not a single one is mixed with our green stuff. Yeah right!!!! If it can be collected in the bags, it should be able to be left at the tip in those bags as far as I'm concerned. I did once rebel and throw two bags in their container, but they allegedly cause contamination. Oh dear!!!!!! Gingabeech1
  • Score: 2

9:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

another council tax payer says...

Whats all the fuss about they give you a roll of bags and if you use them all you can buy a another for £3.40, weekly collections,you can bundle larger cuttings with string if that's not acceptable take it down the tip with all the aggro that comes with it ,next thing you know people want the council to come and flush their toilets for them "coz they pay their council tax"
Whats all the fuss about they give you a roll of bags and if you use them all you can buy a another for £3.40, weekly collections,you can bundle larger cuttings with string if that's not acceptable take it down the tip with all the aggro that comes with it ,next thing you know people want the council to come and flush their toilets for them "coz they pay their council tax" another council tax payer
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

GrumpyofLeigh says...

Bluebs wrote:
Grumpy..we do pay for the council to deal with it, you in your little flat pay less Council Tax than I do in my very big house with a very big garden..luckily my gardener takes the waste away..bless him !!
The point I was making is that we dont pay - via our Council Tax - to have our garden waste removed 'cos not everyone has a garden. I do, a big 'un to go with my big house but pay 48 quid a year for a bin which is, I suspect, a little cheaper than your gardener.
[quote][p][bold]Bluebs[/bold] wrote: Grumpy..we do pay for the council to deal with it, you in your little flat pay less Council Tax than I do in my very big house with a very big garden..luckily my gardener takes the waste away..bless him !![/p][/quote]The point I was making is that we dont pay - via our Council Tax - to have our garden waste removed 'cos not everyone has a garden. I do, a big 'un to go with my big house but pay 48 quid a year for a bin which is, I suspect, a little cheaper than your gardener. GrumpyofLeigh
  • Score: -2

10:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

ThisYear says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
More warmist bowlox from the usual caterwauling lefties.

Green policies and green taxes cost ordinary people a bomb. "Global warming" is a luxury we can ill afford.

It's time these lefties stopped holding us to ransom with their increasingly hysterical obsession with the minutiae of so called green policy and using it as an excuse to keep creating stealth taxes.

Recycling is a good idea; makes sense and so does composting but when it starts hitting people in the pocket it becomes a pointless exercise. You simply cannot dictate to people who are paying their council tax to get their rubbish collected.

Collect it and shut up.

We have been conned into the idea that planet saving gadgets and batcave lightbulbs will save on energy and cut our bills.

Absolute rubbish.

Green policies should cost us less not more - and if people can get things cheaper elsewhere they will. And you can't blame them.

We need to shut these eco fascists right up.
So in your 'mind' all those who believe in global warming/climate change are "caterwauling lefties"

Im sure many right-wingers and tory supporters would be surprised that you think of them like this.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: More warmist bowlox from the usual caterwauling lefties. Green policies and green taxes cost ordinary people a bomb. "Global warming" is a luxury we can ill afford. It's time these lefties stopped holding us to ransom with their increasingly hysterical obsession with the minutiae of so called green policy and using it as an excuse to keep creating stealth taxes. Recycling is a good idea; makes sense and so does composting but when it starts hitting people in the pocket it becomes a pointless exercise. You simply cannot dictate to people who are paying their council tax to get their rubbish collected. Collect it and shut up. We have been conned into the idea that planet saving gadgets and batcave lightbulbs will save on energy and cut our bills. Absolute rubbish. Green policies should cost us less not more - and if people can get things cheaper elsewhere they will. And you can't blame them. We need to shut these eco fascists right up.[/p][/quote]So in your 'mind' all those who believe in global warming/climate change are "caterwauling lefties" Im sure many right-wingers and tory supporters would be surprised that you think of them like this. ThisYear
  • Score: 3

11:09pm Mon 18 Aug 14

white_van_ man says...

Just have a bonfire!
Just have a bonfire! white_van_ man
  • Score: 4

8:55am Tue 19 Aug 14

Rhoda Dendron says...

I went to the Castle Point Show to support my grandaughter in the 5-a-side football. The marquee directly behind us housed a Castle Point Council stand where they were handing out yellow glass recycle boxes, pink bags and the small green food waste bins. These new green food waste bins have been redesigned to make them more difficult for the badgers and foxes to rip to bits. So as my green bin has been mauled to death, I thought I would take the opportunity to get a new one.

They had all gone, liiterally dozens and dozens of them. It was a complete free for all. Then found a big group of footy supporters with stacks of yellow boxes, green bins and rolls and rolls of pink bags. They were all from Dagenham. I emailed the council asking why we were subsidising a London Borough, and asked for a new bin - nothing, zero, zilch...............
...

They can stick their recycling up their proverbial..........
..
I went to the Castle Point Show to support my grandaughter in the 5-a-side football. The marquee directly behind us housed a Castle Point Council stand where they were handing out yellow glass recycle boxes, pink bags and the small green food waste bins. These new green food waste bins have been redesigned to make them more difficult for the badgers and foxes to rip to bits. So as my green bin has been mauled to death, I thought I would take the opportunity to get a new one. They had all gone, liiterally dozens and dozens of them. It was a complete free for all. Then found a big group of footy supporters with stacks of yellow boxes, green bins and rolls and rolls of pink bags. They were all from Dagenham. I emailed the council asking why we were subsidising a London Borough, and asked for a new bin - nothing, zero, zilch............... ... They can stick their recycling up their proverbial.......... .. Rhoda Dendron
  • Score: 2

11:29am Tue 19 Aug 14

sesibollox says...

Rhoda Dendron wrote:
I went to the Castle Point Show to support my grandaughter in the 5-a-side football. The marquee directly behind us housed a Castle Point Council stand where they were handing out yellow glass recycle boxes, pink bags and the small green food waste bins. These new green food waste bins have been redesigned to make them more difficult for the badgers and foxes to rip to bits. So as my green bin has been mauled to death, I thought I would take the opportunity to get a new one.

They had all gone, liiterally dozens and dozens of them. It was a complete free for all. Then found a big group of footy supporters with stacks of yellow boxes, green bins and rolls and rolls of pink bags. They were all from Dagenham. I emailed the council asking why we were subsidising a London Borough, and asked for a new bin - nothing, zero, zilch...............

...

They can stick their recycling up their proverbial..........

..
Ilike the yellow glass bins, good for growing veg in...
[quote][p][bold]Rhoda Dendron[/bold] wrote: I went to the Castle Point Show to support my grandaughter in the 5-a-side football. The marquee directly behind us housed a Castle Point Council stand where they were handing out yellow glass recycle boxes, pink bags and the small green food waste bins. These new green food waste bins have been redesigned to make them more difficult for the badgers and foxes to rip to bits. So as my green bin has been mauled to death, I thought I would take the opportunity to get a new one. They had all gone, liiterally dozens and dozens of them. It was a complete free for all. Then found a big group of footy supporters with stacks of yellow boxes, green bins and rolls and rolls of pink bags. They were all from Dagenham. I emailed the council asking why we were subsidising a London Borough, and asked for a new bin - nothing, zero, zilch............... ... They can stick their recycling up their proverbial.......... ..[/p][/quote]Ilike the yellow glass bins, good for growing veg in... sesibollox
  • Score: 0

12:42pm Tue 19 Aug 14

cropped hero says...

Lefite, fascist......does she never change the record?

Clearly global warming is her new rant.

However I am only really shocked because this is a rant at Castle Point council not Basildon.

She may well pitch up at one of your council meetings in a cloud of perfume so do beware.

But back to the article. The council, all councils, seem very fond of implementing rules and changes in procedures to suit themselves not the council tax payers. for example if you would like to report rubbish in the streets in Basildon it is almost impossible to speak to someone. you have to leave a message with all of your contact details but they never ring you! I dont remember voting for that. I wonder if Castle Point council decided that they would just go ahead and make this change to waste collection or was there any public consultation? Thought not.

Council officials should remember that they work for the council tax payers not the other way round. It is interesting that they used to be called civil servants, now they are called officers.
Lefite, fascist......does she never change the record? Clearly global warming is her new rant. However I am only really shocked because this is a rant at Castle Point council not Basildon. She may well pitch up at one of your council meetings in a cloud of perfume so do beware. But back to the article. The council, all councils, seem very fond of implementing rules and changes in procedures to suit themselves not the council tax payers. for example if you would like to report rubbish in the streets in Basildon it is almost impossible to speak to someone. you have to leave a message with all of your contact details but they never ring you! I dont remember voting for that. I wonder if Castle Point council decided that they would just go ahead and make this change to waste collection or was there any public consultation? Thought not. Council officials should remember that they work for the council tax payers not the other way round. It is interesting that they used to be called civil servants, now they are called officers. cropped hero
  • Score: 0

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