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Race-hate row over election leaflet

9:15am Wednesday 11th April 2007

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A TORY candidate has been accused of pandering to extremists by saying asylum seekers should not be given council homes in an election flyer.

Conservative Central Office has investigated following complaints over pamphlets dropped across Vange by Luke Mackenzie.

Last year, the Echo revealed the Commission for Racial Equality accused Basildon Tories of discrimination for flagging up the issue of asylum seekers in election literature.

Now the decision to promote the fact Basildon Council will not allow asylum seekers to join its housing list has again come under fire.

Mr Mackenzie is standing against the council's only ethnic minority member, Labour's Danny Nandanwar, as well as the BNP.

His brochure states: "I support the Conservative policy of giving council housing to Basildon citizens and not being used to home asylum seekers."

It also claims the Govern-ment is encouraging record immigration.

Mr Mackenzie, who at 21 would be the youngest councillor at Basildon if elected, defended the wording and said he "deplored" the politics of far-right parties like the BNP.

He said: "I support multi culturalism, but it is only fair Basildon houses go to Basildon people first regardless of their ethnic background."

However, Allan Davies, Basildon Labour group deputy leader, described it as propoganda to stir up race hate and segregation.

He said: "Mr Mackenzie does appear to lean further to the right than some of his fellow Tories who have not flagged up this issue in personal statements.

"In a democracy, every one has a right to stand, but I believe David Cameron should be looking in detail at some of his candidates' policies."

Tony Ball, Tory deputy leader, said: "Luke has the 100 per cent endorsement of the local assocation and central office has looked at it and now told us it is happy to endorse his comments. We have raised this issue for the last four years and if it was a problem we would have been told by now."

Tory council leader Malcolm Buckley said promoting the asylum issue was to counter BNP claims asylum seekers were housed locally by the council.

He said: "The fact is most people want an open and honest debate on immigration and the only positive thing to emerge from the BNP is to force the debate among mainstream parties.

"But there are too many loony lefties who will cry racism just at the mention of the word immigration."

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The Vicar, says...
9:37am Wed 11 Apr 07

Right or wrong, Labour fail to understand that immigrants and asylum seekers being given social housing and benefits are a big concern for a lot of people. The BNP capitalise on this so the Tories are right to point out the facts - something the Labour party seems incapabale of doing (telling the truth that is). As Labour have thrived on spin it's impossible to tell what's true and what's false about this issue. All people can go by now is what they see and what they experience.

When an asylum seeker travels across 12 other safe nations just to reach England are they really an asylum seeker? Or have they targeted England's benefits systems? Someone who is fleeing torture and persecution would be happy to place their feet in the first safe nation.

Nobody would knock any immigrant who comes to this country who wants to better themselves or build a better life. I would expect the same of anyone who moves abroad from GB. The Spanish rightly condemn the British Ex-Pats who cannot be bothered to learn their own language and act like the chavvy scum on Marbella Belles.

Labour's failure to tackle or answer these questions has now led to desperation on their part with talk of Border controls, ID cards, etc. People trafficking has never been worse.

We make it too easy by printing every form in every conceivable language. In France every form is in French. If you can't read French then tough - learn how to.

It's a problem that Labour has allowed to get out of control. In its weakness it's allowing the far-right parties to spread fear and anxiety.

Just look at what happened to Dagenham in the last election.

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mattsmarvels, local says...
11:16am Wed 11 Apr 07

Pray to God it doesn't happen here!

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Robbie, Laindon says...
11:27am Wed 11 Apr 07

Good old Labour pandering to the minorities that nobody wants.

We are not racist we are realists and the country is being torn apart by the stupid labour policys, you only have to looks at London and the recent stabbings to see where mass imigration gets you

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freddy, basildon says...
12:00pm Wed 11 Apr 07

Vote BNP, you know it makes sense!

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Steve, Leigh says...
12:09pm Wed 11 Apr 07

Well said Vicar - Whichever party actually addresses peoples concerns re immigration, crime, law and order and doesn't pander to the PC brigade will romp home. Before the fluffy bunnies rise up just let me state that people are sick and tired of 'immigrants' getting preferential treatment for housing, medical treatment etc over the indigenous population.

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sue, basildon says...
12:53pm Wed 11 Apr 07

freddy wrote:
Vote BNP, you know it makes sense!
never thought i would say this but i totaly agree with you, think thats what i will be doing on the 3rd of May

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Basildon Billy, says...
1:41pm Wed 11 Apr 07

When an asylum seeker travels across 12 other safe nations just to reach England are they really an asylum seeker? Or have they targeted England's benefits systems? Someone who is fleeing torture and persecution would be happy to place their feet in the first safe nation.
exactly! they say they are fleeing persecution and simply want a safe life yet risk their lives by trying to swim the channel and hanging onto speeding trains and lorries.

It makes my blood boil when people try and criticise Basildon Council for wanting to house its own residents, you want asylum seekers? invite them to stay in ur own bloody house then! or in your street. While Im paying taxes Id like to see people that need it getting it, not handed straight over to mr awumbolodubu mosambidnuwabu

ever noticed how all the politicians that are pro-immigration are the ones that have never had to live with immigrants? all the privatley-schooled chauffer-driven posh boys that have only ever came face to face with a person of ethnic minority for publicity reasons, the only ones saying what the great british public are saying are the working-class people that know what your area being overwelmed by immigrants is like

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Basildon Billy, says...
1:44pm Wed 11 Apr 07

Also, see the key phrase "race row" whats race got to do with it? who says all immigrants are of ethnic minority? there are white immigrants too, anything thats not in immigrants favour is always "racist"

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robbie, says...
2:22pm Wed 11 Apr 07

LABOUR want immigrants so that they can buy their vote.

Liberals and Labour in some parts of the country are putting leaflets out in Polish to try and get votes.
Wait till the olympics gets behind london and our part of essex will be full immigrants . TIME TO PUT A STOP TO IT NOW

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Nicola, Basildon says...
2:57pm Wed 11 Apr 07

I think the conservatives are right not to let asylum seekers onto the Basildon housing council list otherwise people that have lived in Basildon all their lives and have contributed to the economy are the ones missing out, when asylum seekers pass through other countries but will not stop there, they always proceed onto England. I also will probably be voting for BNP this year then labour may realise that this is a very important issue that they are not addressing.

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Missy, Southend says...
3:48pm Wed 11 Apr 07

I was totally prepared to be outraged by this story due to the title but I can see why what has been done has been done. If you live in an area and are unfortunate enough to need a council house your needs should go above those of asylum seekers - look after ur own before others. This is not an issue of race, I am mixed race, its a matter of doing the right thing

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Basildon Billy, says...
3:54pm Wed 11 Apr 07

The government is so in favour of immigration because every working immigrant is another person they can tax, they would have us all sleeping in bunk beds if it ment they got more money from us. They have almost completely given up on unemployed brits now, the government has stopped funding alot of apprenticeships now because so many immigrants with those skills are comming here, they want the immigrants on side because by 2010 half the UK's population will be immigrants, they dont even take into consideration alot of these immigrants come here yet hate the western world and all we stand for, they call us "pigs" they hate our way of living, they are only here because of what they can get, and instead of telling them where to go the government just uses our money to make our country more appealing to them, this is why the BNP becoms more popular every year, and to be honest, those anti-BNP leaflets make me wanna vote them even more, they show how far they will over-exagerrate BNP policies to paint them all out as racist nazis, when infact, none of the BNP's policies even mention race.

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Doogie, Laindon says...
3:58pm Wed 11 Apr 07

something about that article doesnt ring true...maybe its because I am having to wade through crowds of Africans everytime I go into Basildon town centre...

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Tony Montana, essex says...
4:13pm Wed 11 Apr 07

I say let them all in, at least that way we might stand a chance in the Olympics.

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paddyman, says...
5:39pm Wed 11 Apr 07

you lot disgust me , we should welcome these people and help them integrate into our society, not vilify them like you have done to our friends at dale farm .

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walby, says...
5:45pm Wed 11 Apr 07

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walby, says...
5:53pm Wed 11 Apr 07

you disgust me paddyman with your thoughts , and the thought of immgrants taking english peoples houses disgusts me, but nothing disgusts me more than that rabble at dale farm taking all and sundry for a ride at our own expense and people like you supporting them you ill informed moron.

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Peter, Basildon says...
6:30pm Wed 11 Apr 07

Paddyman,
Why should we welcome them?

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roy palmer, thurrock says...
6:36pm Wed 11 Apr 07

why should they get council houses when they come here when our own people are waiting to be housed it is about time we looked after our own instead for puting others first

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paddyman, says...
6:56pm Wed 11 Apr 07

because we are supposed to be a civilised nation with a human rights act, and we are in the european community now if you didnt realise it.

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Kim Gandy, Wickford says...
7:01pm Wed 11 Apr 07

CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME

Let's remember that - and let's ponder upon what would become of our own citizens if, god forbid, we should ever need asylum.

You can bet your bottom dollar every door in Europe would slam firmly shut.

No, we're the only mugs taking on this many people in unmanageable quantities because we have a pathetic, ineffectual and morally corrupt government that is backed up by an idiot minority of mewling left wing liberals.

I personally have experience of job theft, not to mention having my car trashed by some illegal immigrant yobo with no insurance. There are other PERSONAL experiences I could recount aplenty - as they directly affect my own family's livelihood - to my children's detriment.

Sorry folks but we have enough "aliens" in this borough to sink a spaceship.

Enough's enough! Let's slam the gates and bolt them - and concentrate on our own poor and sick.

Dear, oh dear, what is that I hear? The pitter patter of an onslaught of squawking wittering lefties!

Tally ho!


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rich, crays hill says...
7:04pm Wed 11 Apr 07

at last,paddyman you talk a lot of sence.i wish the racist lot would just understand,the likes of walby need to go back to school

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dave, local says...
7:12pm Wed 11 Apr 07

i think walby is the local bnp leader,not for sure just my opinion...

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The Vicar, says...
8:38pm Wed 11 Apr 07

dave wrote:
i think walby is the local bnp leader,not for sure just my opinion...
Then you must be the local Labour crony, Dave, doing Tony and Gordon's classic trick of calling everyone racists to destroy argument ;)

Paddyman, last time I looked at a map, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and Africa weren't part of the EC.

Plus most members of EC countries pay tax in the countries they live and work in... most that is.

At least Labour can rely on three votes from Dave, Paddyman and Rich.

It's probably all they will get mind!

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walby, says...
8:44pm Wed 11 Apr 07

why do i need to go back to school rich...? i believe im intelligent enough to understand what is happening to this country, this is an island what is full up ,we cant give our own citizens some basic needs like education and healthcare bacause the system is overloaded and at breaking point, so why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize all the immigrants what come into this country with no money and get given a house and benefits, then work while on benefits to send money back to there native places of origin.you might be happy to see your taxes spent in this way but im not.if this country stays on this same path there will be no country left.if you think these comments are racist so be it , and as for you davei think you should go back to school , then we might get an intelligent comment from you.

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walby, says...
8:58pm Wed 11 Apr 07

And for the record dave i am not a member of the bnp and have never voted for them, but if this country does,nt buck its ideas up i might just be voting for them , and i think there are a lot of like minded people who are thinking the same.

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walby, says...
8:59pm Wed 11 Apr 07

And for the record dave i am not a member of the bnp and have never voted for them, but if this country does,nt buck its ideas up i might just be voting for them , and i think there are a lot of like minded people who are thinking the same.

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Peter, Benfleet says...
10:16pm Wed 11 Apr 07

We WERE a civilised country. By the look of the spelling and grammar of paddyman and co they did not get much of an education a school. As far as human rights go, if we are so bad, why do all these downtrodden immigrants want to come here?

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Peter, Benfleet says...
10:20pm Wed 11 Apr 07

We WERE a civilised country. By the look of the spelling and grammar of paddyman and co they did not get much of an education a school. As far as human rights go, if we are so bad, why do all these downtrodden immigrants want to come here?

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David, Upminster says...
10:28pm Wed 11 Apr 07

I think it's Rich who needs to go back to school, the word is "sense" not "sence" and the grammar is just appalling.

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Millie, England, UK says...
11:02pm Wed 11 Apr 07

The UK is bursting at the seams!
When are the politicians going to realise this and close the doors to all and sundry?
If all the UK born Brits went to try to live abroad, they wouldn't find it so easy unless they had plenty money in their pockets to support themselves and buy a house themselves,
(and rightly so)

Our cash pot will soon be empty in this country and then what will happen?

I dread to think!


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Happy Hammer, Essex says...
11:06pm Wed 11 Apr 07

Well said Paddyman and Rich. You two are the civilised commentators on this issue.
KIM -GO BACK TO YORKSHIRE!

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ReggieD, London says...
12:54am Thu 12 Apr 07

Paddyman I was in Dublin the weekend I saw more Africans and Chinese than I see London how long do you think your "culture" will last?... Brainwashed lemming White women pushing Orange baby's in prams.."paid for by White taxes" this stuff is going to be fought and the fight starts NOW!!...The globlaist just want cheap labor and to do that they need to race-mix Whites to a pulp...

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Neil, Billericay says...
1:35am Thu 12 Apr 07

Why vote for the cheap copy when you can have the original as Le Pen says in France. Mr Sarkozy the French Tory is doing something on this issue but the British Tories once again are playing games with an important issue for votes but as anyone who has studied past British governments and their handling of this issue of asylum and immigration knows the Tories are only a little bit less soft on it than Labour but they won't solve it and this is because the EU is preventing us from doing precisely that.


www.speakout.co.uk/borders.aspx


Only a MASS BNP vote will get 'mainstream' politicians to wake-up and start to seriously address the public's concerns. The ONLY reason why the likes of Sarkozy in France are doing some hardline actions in this area of goverment is because the French political Establishment is scared rigid by Le Pen. British politicians need a similar wake-up call!


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rapidly losing all hope, Essex says...
2:12am Thu 12 Apr 07

I think you'll find the saying 'Charity begins at home' refers to our giving rather than our taking. In other words giving should start with us as individuals before we look to organisations to be responsible.

Sorry and all that guys but the BNP is every bit as bad as people say. Yes, they do call for repatriation of anyone who is not white, however long they've lived in the UK. Our society has had immigrants throughout all time, in fact we can all trace our heritage back to immigrants of one kind or another; that's the nature of this tiny island. However, it has not diluted our culture. If you want to talk about antisocial behaviour, look back to the poll tax riots, or mods and rockers. Plato wrote about the 'youth of today' and that was 2500 years ago.

It is interesting how people seem to think the ills of this country can be simply blamed upon others. That is exactly what Hitler did. Strangely, the kids I see playing up, the vandalism, the theft, rape and murder is going on in all sorts of neighbourhoods, privileged and deprived, Labour, Lib Dem and Tory and the 'native born' are every bit as guilty as anyone else. So perhaps people should try to get these things into perspective and stop their narrow minded, ignorant little rants.

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janice livings, basildon says...
4:58am Thu 12 Apr 07

Well I finally went and read the BNP website and policies and to be honest they seem reasonable to me. I wish the tories would adopt some of them. Every week I see more foreigners in our town and for Labour to say multicuturalism is good for us and to disagree is racist is an insult to me and my family who were actaully born here.

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Spike, Basildon says...
8:01am Thu 12 Apr 07

As far as human rights go, if we are so bad, why do all these downtrodden immigrants want to come here?


All the immigants want to come here because we are a soft touch. We don't have a problem spending thousands on these people, when we can't afford/be bothered to look after our own.

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Jim, Westcliff On Sea says...
8:03am Thu 12 Apr 07

I've lived in many areas, Merseyside, Manchester, Middlesex, London, Hampshire and now Essex... and one thing ALWAYS remains the same throughout these areas, some worse then others, and that's the treatment of the racial MAJORITY!

Surley the basis of demoracy is majority rule, so why is the racial majority in this country constantly being overlooked and handouts being given to those outside of our borders ahead of the needy here.

It's NOT being racist to have these opinions, and I'm sick and tired of being made to feel like it is. It's plain common sense and a realisation that we have a government which is scared of a tarnished image.

Racism is a word that's been over well over used, and it's about time people started to shrug it off.

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David, Basildon says...
9:12am Thu 12 Apr 07

Happy Hammers
How can you be so insular, you tell someone from Yorkshire to go back home, but rant and rave about people worrying about the effects of massive immigration; suppression of free speech was also practised in Hitler's Germany.

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Frank, says...
10:00am Thu 12 Apr 07

Vote BNP...you can't trust the tories, especially with the man they had got leading them!

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Bent Echo, says...
10:01am Thu 12 Apr 07

looks like the "Bent Echo" story has backfired. The Scottish and Labour supporting editor MacNeil thought this would a good Anti-tory article. Looks like he got it wrong.

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Mrs. S. Keats, Basildon says...
10:06am Thu 12 Apr 07

Posted by: Happy Hammer, Essex on 11:06pm Wed 11 Apr 07
Well said Paddyman and Rich. You two are the civilised commentators on this issue. KIM -GO BACK TO YORKSHIRE!
Well said Paddyman and Rich. You two are the civilised commentators on this issue.
KIM -GO BACK TO YORKSHIRE!

Dear me, Happy Hammers: does the word 'hypocrisy' ring any bells with you?

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Tigger, Basildon says...
10:38am Thu 12 Apr 07

Using the name "Happy Hammer" would imply he's a West Ham supporter.

'Nuff said!

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Jane King, London says...
10:43am Thu 12 Apr 07

90% of the world is made up of brown eyed dark skinned people maybe we are the minority?..Worth preserving at that!

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Millie, England, in over-populated Britain says...
10:56am Thu 12 Apr 07

Maybe, but some day soon those same 90% will have all arrived here!!!
Where the He(( are we going to put them?

On your doorstep???

No, I thought not!

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John Leslie Huscroft, pelton uk says...
11:41am Thu 12 Apr 07

multi cultiral britan pft
send them all home, vote bnp i know i am

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Jeff, Romford says...
2:13pm Thu 12 Apr 07

paddyman wrote:
because we are supposed to be a civilised nation with a human rights act, and we are in the european community now if you didnt realise it.
What the **** has the EU got to do with this?

The simple facts that your tiny liberal pea-brain has trouble getting around is that land and housing is a finite resource in this country.

Most young couples, including myself can't get on the property ladder or even get a council flat.

Both my grandparents died defending this country, and my parents and I have paid taxes all our lives!

IS IT CIVILIZED THAT I SHOULD I GO TO THE BACK OF THE QUE???

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Paul Wilson, Croydon says...
2:26pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Whoi is the idiot who wrote this 'Race-hate row over election leaflet ' headline ?

Some 16 year old wannabe journalist on the staff of this rag ?

It's nothing whatsoever to do with RACE. Asylum seekers aren't a race.

And it's about time these local crap-papers tried reporting the truth instead of their usual left-wing claptrap.


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Andy cooper, says...
2:35pm Thu 12 Apr 07

If someone had told me 10 yrs ago i would be voting for a nationalist party...The BNP..i would not have believed you, now however i see them as the ONLY alternative for the indiginous peoples...

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paddyman, says...
2:57pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Jeff perhaps if you got off your lazy butt and got a decent job instead of leaving posts on this site you might be able to get a house.

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Sean, Basildon says...
3:06pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Paddyman, you obviously do not have a job as you seem to spend all day leaving posts on this site, you obviously have enough money to buy a house or perhaps you don't need to buy a house, you just park your mobile home on the nearest bit of greenbelt.

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The Vicar, says...
4:21pm Thu 12 Apr 07

paddyman wrote:
<b> Jeff perhaps if you got off your lazy butt and got a decent job instead of leaving posts on this site you might be able to get a house.</b>
Do you mean a decent job like cutting trees and laying driveways? ;)

I hear the VAT rate on these professions is set at zero percent ;)


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dave, crays hill says...
4:45pm Thu 12 Apr 07

why dont the vicar ,kim gandy ,walby ,and all the other racists all go and take a run and jump .you evil people

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dave, crays hill says...
4:52pm Thu 12 Apr 07

hitler was clever with his words,remember that

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Kazza, Pitsea says...
4:58pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Give it a 100 years or so and there will be no black or white, just what I would call Half Casts (politely). There are so many black men with white girls and white men with black girls everyone will be one colour eventually.

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dave, local says...
5:08pm Thu 12 Apr 07

please tell me why is there so many racists living in essex,we should call essex alabama,and put the vicar ,kim ,and walby in charge.you are sad people,but you will never win and you know that

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Millie, England, in over-populated Britain says...
5:17pm Thu 12 Apr 07

I don't think people are racists, it's just that they are getting SO fed up with this useless government keep letting anyone and everyone onto this crumbling island and soon there will be nothing left of Britain at all.

Just wake up and take notice as it's not only Essex, people from all over Britain feel exactly the same.

If you don't like it, then tough!

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dave, local says...
5:18pm Thu 12 Apr 07

listen to the record,melting pot,sung by minx, fantastic.

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The Vicar, says...
5:22pm Thu 12 Apr 07

dave wrote:
<b> please tell me why is there so many racists living in essex,we should call essex alabama,and put the vicar ,kim ,and walby in charge.you are sad people,but you will never win and you know that</b>
Put your race card away. It's expiry date passed a long time ago. And dragging up Hitler's name is a bit desperate. You may as well drag up the leftie's favourite uncle, Stalin, as well.

If you hate Essex so much then leave. By all accounts there are plenty of places for you to go. Your mansions in Ireland, your holiday homes in Spain, your council flats in the Midlands.

Or have the Echo reported falsely on these matters?

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Eve, says...
5:23pm Thu 12 Apr 07

The group is Blue Mink and it was a great song, still is.

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dave, local says...
5:27pm Thu 12 Apr 07

i love essex, vicar,but you are a very sad man, i read you posts and you know nothing,but you make good reading. buy the way ,you wont win because there is too many good people that live in essex ,you racists

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dave, local says...
5:35pm Thu 12 Apr 07

does the vicar and his mates really think that we are silly,please help me here. they start on the gypsies ,then the blacks, jews and anyone that is not like them.you only have to read there posts

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walby, says...
5:44pm Thu 12 Apr 07

you are a typical whingeing leftie dave, a typical citizen of nulabour where people arent allowed to have an opinion. why do you resort to calling people racist for having an opinion.

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The Vicar, says...
5:45pm Thu 12 Apr 07

dave wrote:
<b> i love essex, vicar,but you are a very sad man, i read you posts and you know nothing,but you make good reading. buy the way ,you wont win because there is too many good people that live in essex ,you racists</b>
Put something back into the community instead of always taking and people might give you the time of day.

So anyone who criticises the "gypsy" community is automatically a racist by your thinking then?

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The Vicar, says...
5:47pm Thu 12 Apr 07

dave wrote:
<b> i love essex, vicar,but you are a very sad man, i read you posts and you know nothing,but you make good reading. buy the way ,you wont win because there is too many good people that live in essex ,you racists</b>
Don't confuse Essex with the People's Republic of Peckham, Dave ;)

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Michael, Basildon says...
5:50pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Melting Pot - I always did think it was a stupid song.

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tony, bas says...
5:50pm Thu 12 Apr 07

you have f....d him dave big time,good on you dave, not everybody from essex is like the vicar.........

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Samir, Benfleet says...
5:53pm Thu 12 Apr 07

It seems to me that Dave just keeps repeating himself.

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The Vicar, says...
5:56pm Thu 12 Apr 07

tony wrote:
<b> you have f....d him dave big time,good on you dave, not everybody from essex is like the vicar.........</b>
Dave's sole argument is that everyone is a racist when anyone criticises anything he disagrees with.

Great argument that.

Still, it's worked for Labour for the last ten years.

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dave, local says...
5:56pm Thu 12 Apr 07

shut up walby ,you are only a p..t .and you know nothing

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simon, Basildon says...
5:58pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Great argument Dave, just tell people to shut up. The voice of a tyrant.

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tony, bas says...
6:03pm Thu 12 Apr 07

i wonder when walby, picks his next dole money up

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walby, says...
6:05pm Thu 12 Apr 07

dave , you should learn the meaning of the word racism before you accuse people of being one.
the word racism means:a belief in the superiority of a particular race;
the likes of me, kim, the vicar, have wrote nothing to support this.
what we have wrote is an opinion as to what is wrong with our country.

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walby, says...
6:12pm Thu 12 Apr 07

DAVE AND TONY.......
when people resort to insuls and comments like that, i think they have run out of an arguement. and it proves just what a low mentallity they have.

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dave, local says...
6:14pm Thu 12 Apr 07

please walby,look in the mirror, you know what you are,just a actor,

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walby, says...
6:16pm Thu 12 Apr 07

DAVE AND TONY...
do you have the same parents....?
as your iq is very similar.

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walby, says...
6:24pm Thu 12 Apr 07

i think its time for your bed dave, ask mummy to tuck you in.
nighty night

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dave, local says...
6:25pm Thu 12 Apr 07

walby,why do you moan all the time you sad person.

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walby, says...
6:29pm Thu 12 Apr 07

take a tip dave, give up while your not ahead.

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dave, local says...
6:31pm Thu 12 Apr 07

walby ,at least you admit i am ahead,you m.g

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walby, says...
6:44pm Thu 12 Apr 07

DAVE,you are more stupid than i thought you was,read my post correctly. now dont you look a m.g...ha ha

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dave, local says...
6:53pm Thu 12 Apr 07

sorry walby, too many stellas today

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lisa jensen, southend on mud says...
7:25pm Thu 12 Apr 07

Oh dear, here we go again.... As much as i disagree with a lot of the posts on here, the point is being missed hugely. The Echo put headlines like this because they sell papers and provoke a reaction!!!
Oh and I do not agree with the BNP and yes I am a leftie, although not a snivelling, wittering one!!!
Dave, please leave out the name calling, it isnt helpful and just makes u look stupid. It doesnt add to your point either.

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Paul, Basildon says...
1:56am Fri 13 Apr 07

The local Tories have not been reading the Head office hymn sheet.
This from Shadow Minister for Local Government, Eric Pickles MP,no conseverative should ”not agree with any statement made by a BNP candidate in debate, or across the council chamber; nor second or support any motion proposed by the BNP. It is always necessary to be unambiguous in all dealings; there can be no coming together for the good of the community”
Labour(the defunct mob,who always Lecture the electorate), should VOTE on local issues rather than National ones.
This is a noble cause from a party that is in it's dying embers,but bring up the LOCAL issue of council housing and asylum seekers in the same breath(a local concern) and this is the bog standard response you receive from Labour:
Allan Davies, Basildon Labour group deputy leader, described it as propoganda to stir up race hate and segregation.

He said: "Mr Mackenzie does appear to lean further to the right than some of his fellow Tories who have not flagged up this issue in personal statements.

"In a democracy, every one has a right to stand, but I believe David Cameron should be looking in detail at some of his candidates' policies."

So there's our choice voter.
Do really trust these so called mainstream parties to represent our INTERESTS,LOCALLY or NATIONALY?)
I know who my vote is going to and it begins with B**

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Happy Hammer, essex says...
10:06am Fri 13 Apr 07

THE BNP ARE FASCIST TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS - FOLLOW THIS LINK TO PROOVE IT!

http://www.unison.org.uk/stoptheBNP/

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The Vicar, says...
10:47am Fri 13 Apr 07

Happy Hammer wrote:
<b> THE BNP ARE FASCIST TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS - FOLLOW THIS LINK TO PROOVE IT!

http://www.unison.org.uk/stoptheBNP/</b>
What political party doesn't act like fascists and terrorists when they're in power?

I mean, Labour and the Tories have set such great examples in the past.

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Lynne B., Romford says...
11:01am Fri 13 Apr 07

Thanks to Stalinist Labour and limp liberals there is going to be a BLOODBATH in Britain unless you all wake up and vote the British National Party into power as quickly as possible.
This is reality. Don't anyone bother to tell me otherwise.
The writing is on the wall, and let me tell the multiculti cretins on here something - you will be the first to go under when it all kicks off - not by native Britons, but by your beloved "enrichers"!
I am not a fool and I am not a racist. I am a realist and I want to prevent a violent revolution if that's still possible.
Time is running out!

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Gerry, Ilford says...
11:06am Fri 13 Apr 07

Daily News at UKT -

http://www.uktabloid.co.uk/Main%20News.html

British National Party -

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

As Lynne B. says, time is running out.

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Tigger, Basildon says...
1:07pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Happy Hammer wrote:
THE BNP ARE FASCIST TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS - FOLLOW THIS LINK TO PROOVE IT! http://www.unison.org.uk/stoptheBNP/
This is the typical outpouring of someone who gets all his views
from the foreign-owned Marxist- supporting popular press.
Wake up, look around you and listen to what people are saying.

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H. Lewis, Rebridge says...
1:25pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Happy Hammer wrote:
THE BNP ARE FASCIST TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS - FOLLOW THIS LINK TO PROOVE IT! http://www.unison.org.uk/stoptheBNP/
Is this the union that recruits Labour voters in Poland while overseeing the destruction of British jobs and paying it's members subs to the Labour party?
Is this the union that puts out anti-white, anti-British propaganda, paid for by it's members?
Is this the union that supports Bliar's illegal bloodbath in Iraq with it's membership fund?
Is this the Unison you refer to?
Is this the union whose Stalin-worshipping officials rake off huge salaries, perks and pensions from it's membership funds while assisting the Labour party to destroy the pensions of millions?
Is this the union that tells people that the only party that truly speaks in the interests of native Britons are fascists and criminals?
Is this the union you refer to?

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Alain, Basildon says...
1:33pm Fri 13 Apr 07

I am shaken with what i am reading in the comments in this post, but at the same time determine to contribute in what i believe is very heated debate amongs the electorate before May the 3rd elections.
As somebody with an asylum background living in Essex, i now know i am not as safe as i thought and that, was it not for the fear of the law of the land, i might as well been belted over by someone who believe that all the problems of this county are made by asylum seekers. It's ironic that David Cameroon promised to steer the Conservative party towards the centre, but i see through my door a conservative candidate ( Steve Foster) priding himself for the role the conservative is playing either to uproot travellers or to deny asylum seekers accommodation, i am wondering where actually the conservative party is going; more to the extrem right maybe. having said that, it's important for everyone blaming asylum seekers for all of their problems to reflect on John Dunne wise words very resounding in todays situation more than never. " never send to know for whom the bells toys, it toys for....".
It's not the matter of been soft lefties liberals or toughs talking BNP, there's in all of us something that unite us all; humanity.
Let's think more about it.

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JB - BNP, says...
1:50pm Fri 13 Apr 07

The Guardian/Searchlight/Nulabour/Islam liars -

http://www.civilliberty.org.uk/newsdetail.php?newsid=244

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JB - BNP, says...
1:54pm Fri 13 Apr 07

"Diversity in the Met -

http://www.civilliberty.org.uk/newsdetail.php?newsid=241

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H, Basidon says...
1:56pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Welcome to the asylum -

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23377438-details/A+failed+asylum+seeker+jailed+for+child+rape+recieves+%C2%A350,000/article.do

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The Vicar, says...
4:44pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Alain, nobody here has a problem with genuine asylum seekers. Any civilised nation should help those fleeing persecution and torture.

What concerns people is how many safe nations have people "fled" across just to reach the UK and the number of illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers.

Everyone of those people at Sangatte is a bogus asylum seeker. If they weren't, they'd be pleading asylum in France.

They aren't though and I wonder why that is?

Why is everyone so desperate to reach the UK?

Why did you choose the UK? I don't mean that in a hostile fashion but I'm asking out of curiosity.

What drew you to the UK?

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Boris, says...
7:58pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Any comment from the anti-white racists of Blink or Searchlies about this? -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6553015.stm

Or this? -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6542681.stm

Maybe "shaken" Alain of Basildon has a comment?

How about this then? -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=448418&in_page_id=1770

It goes on day after day.
Why do the "antifascists" never mention it?

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The Vicar, says...
10:28pm Fri 13 Apr 07

I'm calling it a day on these forums as I get the impression that certain people have violence on their mind towards me and it's just not worth the aggro.

It's been nice knowing you all.

Signing off.

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lisa jensen, southend on sea says...
8:32pm Sat 14 Apr 07

The Vicar wrote:
I'm calling it a day on these forums as I get the impression that certain people have violence on their mind towards me and it's just not worth the aggro. It's been nice knowing you all. Signing off.
Vicar,
this will not be the same without you. One of the main reasons I log in here every day is to read your comments!!!
As for anyone else if you can not put up a decent arguement without resorting to name calling and threats of violence then p**s off and find somewhere else to vent your hostility.

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John, Benfleet says...
1:11pm Sun 15 Apr 07

Welome to Blairland Lisa. This is what happens when anarchy rules. Without law and order the bullies take over and freedom of speech is the first thing to go.

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John, Benfleet says...
4:06pm Sun 15 Apr 07

Alain, it ws John Donne not Dunne who wrote the quote is "Therefore send not to know, for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee, not "it toys for thee" but, as you spell your name Alain not Alan,your first language is probably French and it lost something in the translation.

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cas, essex says...
6:38pm Sun 15 Apr 07

VICAR, I LOVE READING YOUR COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH MOST THINGS YOU SAY, AND YOUR WAY OF PUTTING THINGS IS GREAT!. DON'T LEAVE......

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Bob, Pitsea says...
8:52am Mon 16 Apr 07

cas wrote:
VICAR, I LOVE READING YOUR COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH MOST THINGS YOU SAY, AND YOUR WAY OF PUTTING THINGS IS GREAT!. DON'T LEAVE......
I agree!!!

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Kim Gandy, Wickford says...
6:52pm Mon 16 Apr 07

Lisa, Dave and Happy Hammer. If we soldered the lot of you together, there wouldn't be enough brain cells to power a fairy light.

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Lisa Jensen, southend on sea says...
9:22am Tue 17 Apr 07

Kim,
u dont need to solder us together as I have enough love and light within me to brighten the whole world.

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Doug, Exposing the racist lies yet again says...
9:55am Sat 21 Apr 07

Kim Gandy wrote:
CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME Let's remember that - and let's ponder upon what would become of our own citizens if, god forbid, we should ever need asylum. You can bet your bottom dollar every door in Europe would slam firmly shut. No, we're the only mugs taking on this many people in unmanageable quantities because we have a pathetic, ineffectual and morally corrupt government that is backed up by an idiot minority of mewling left wing liberals. I personally have experience of job theft, not to mention having my car trashed by some illegal immigrant yobo with no insurance. There are other PERSONAL experiences I could recount aplenty - as they directly affect my own family's livelihood - to my children's detriment. Sorry folks but we have enough "aliens" in this borough to sink a spaceship. Enough's enough! Let's slam the gates and bolt them - and concentrate on our own poor and sick. Dear, oh dear, what is that I hear? The pitter patter of an onslaught of squawking wittering lefties! Tally ho!
Kim, you're right for once - if we did need asylum, I have no doubt all the doors would slam in our faces. Because people like you show how hostile we can be to people who need our help. So why should THEY help US?

You claim we're the only ones taking in this many people, yet you conveniently ignore the facts again. Per capita, the UK receive far fewer asylum applications than most other western European countries. The UK rank tenth after Austria, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Luxembourg. The number of asylum seekers the UK accept is only 0.5% of its population. Hardly swamped, are we.

You claim "job theft". Please explain. Did someone really "steal" your job or were they just better qualified and more prepared to work hard for a living? Some facts rather than slogans would be handy.

Your car was trashed, you claim, by an illegal immigrant. Can you prove this? Was the culprit caught? Or is this just your opinion. I have to admit that I don't know what a "yobo" is, unless you mean the central defender who plays for Everton.

Facts, Kim Gandhi, Facts.

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Susan, Rayleigh says...
10:18am Mon 23 Apr 07

Have you tried looking for work lately and seen the rates of pay. You could not live on them. They are going to people who will take the lowest wages. They are bringing in doctors from abroad and then telling newly qualified doctors that they should take voluntary work abroad. How would you feel if you studied for years to become a doctor and then saw you job go to someone from abroad and you were told to take voluntary work abroad.

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Susan, Rayleigh says...
11:34am Mon 23 Apr 07

Junior doctors could be officially advised to work for the charity Voluntary Service Overseas amid warnings that 10,000 could be left unemployed this summer.
The VSO option is among several emergency plans being drawn up to keep them busy when there are no jobs for them to go to.
The NHS has been criticised for employing thousands of doctors from developing countries. They come for the higher pay in Britain, but critics say they would be far more useful helping to develop basic health services in their home countries.
It now seems ironic that having taken doctors from Third World countries, the NHS wants to send medics it has trained itself at huge cost to these very places.
It costs around £250,000 for six years' basic training of new doctors, who then need to go into training posts to become specialists.
The extent of the crisis caused by botched reforms of medical training is laid bare in leaked documents from NHS Employers, the organisation responsible for implementing the changes.
It follows mounting problems with the online selection process which led Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt to apologise "unreservedly" to juniors on Monday for the "great distress" they have gone through.


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