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Autistic pair sleep in tents
12:51pm Thursday 17th May 2007
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DESPERATE homeless youngsters have set up a campsite in woods in Pitsea because they have nowhere else to go.
Autistic Scott McCarthy, 20, pitched his tent among the trees, off Ashlyns, nearly three weeks ago and was joined days later by Natalie Cobban, 19, and a third person, who does not wish to be named or photographed.
They all say Basildon Council told them they can not be rehoused.
So they have built their own community with two tents, one of which is suspended in the trees, a covered communal area and a fireplace.
But the council is threatening to move them on.
Scott, who grew up in Pitsea, said: "I don't have a plan of action. I will just stay here until I'm housed or they get a court order.
"I would say to anyone out there, don't rely on the council. They are a waste of time."
Scott has been homeless since splitting with his girlfriend a couple of months ago, but he can't go back to his mum's because there is not enough room.
Natalie, who is also autistic and originally from Nottingham, spent seven months sleeping on the couch in a friend's bedsit in Basildon before she was forced to move to the campsite.
She said: "I've had three assessments, but the council said it can't do anything.
"It is willing to put you up for a night in a bed and breakfast, but that is not really appropriate.
"I'm angry. We are having to fight to get anything. But we will keep on fighting."
The campsite is hidden from the road and a row of shops nearby.
The group has a fire going most nights to help them keep warm and heat food.
Scott also has the stress of looking for a new job.
He was fired on Tuesday for turning up late after spending the night in a police cell for possessing a knife he uses for cooking and eating.
He was not charged.
Scott also says he was taking a lot of time off work to try to find a place to rent.
He said: "On top of everything I now have to look for a new job.
"You think we would get extra help because we're autistic, but no-one seems to care.
"I walk round the estate and there are loads of empty places. I think there is a lot more the council could be doing for us."
Your Say YourEcho
The Vicar, says...
1:37pm Thu 17 May 07
Is this what this country has become?
We now have people living rough sleeping in tents while we provide houses for people who haven't been in the country for more than two minutes or have a criminal record as long as your arm.
They always manage to find secure homes for members of the Tufty Club as well.
Although any mother who lets their son sleep rough isn't much of a mother.
Is there more to this story than meets the eye...?
Emma, Pitsea says...
1:37pm Thu 17 May 07
My message to these wasters is 'get a job, take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming every other person for all thats bad in your life'.
Gail, Basildon says...
1:42pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy, says...
1:44pm Thu 17 May 07
My message to these wasters is 'get a job, take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming every other person for all thats bad in your life'.Whos gonna employ a homeless person? use your brain before you type garbage like that, alot of homeless people look harder than anybody for jobs, but no employer is gonna hire somebody who sleeps rough
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
2:23pm Thu 17 May 07
AND TO EMMA IN PITSEAdid you not read the bit about Scott losing his job basically because he is now homeless?
I'm glad you think this is all so easy to remedy,and I'm glad you all think that this is all my fault...at least you then don't have to blame your beloved council who stated that
there are no people sleeping rough on Basildon streets(Yesterday's Echo).Just pray that it never happens to you or yours...
Gary, Pitsea says...
2:26pm Thu 17 May 07
tina, basildon says...
2:27pm Thu 17 May 07
Gail, Basildon says...
2:33pm Thu 17 May 07
Maggie, pitsea says...
2:35pm Thu 17 May 07
Dave, Basildon says...
2:44pm Thu 17 May 07
canvasser, in-tents says...
2:57pm Thu 17 May 07
Gail, Basildon says...
3:03pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy, says...
3:06pm Thu 17 May 07
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
3:18pm Thu 17 May 07
The Vicar, says...
3:21pm Thu 17 May 07
Is there no room on any of the three bedroom floors to sleep on?
Gary (scotts and natalies friend), pitsea says...
3:27pm Thu 17 May 07
Tony Montana, essex says...
3:31pm Thu 17 May 07
The Vicar, says...
3:37pm Thu 17 May 07
Tony Montana wrote:Even a tent in the back garden!
<b nd="58"> I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside! </b>
Perhaps they should take a leaf (sorry Essex Police) out of Eastenders. Some of those houses are only two bedroom but they manage to house about 15 generations of family.
You can't tell me there isn't room somewhere for a sleeping bag.
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
3:40pm Thu 17 May 07
I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside!
What right have you to imply that these people are smoking weed and all sorts? And what exactly do you mean by all sorts?
Rita, says...
3:53pm Thu 17 May 07
Local Boy - you should be aware of Tony's style of "humour" by now...
Most of the things Tony writes would get a laugh if they were said by, say, David Brent from The Office - yes a cringe here and there but still a laugh. I really don't think Tony is being vindictive or unkind but I can appreciate others' shock at some of his comments.
Peter, Southend-on-Sea says...
3:56pm Thu 17 May 07
They could then get a 'cash in hand' job (tarmac'in drives)& claim benifits in the same way all the other holiday makers their have!
Bored, says...
4:00pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy, says...
4:02pm Thu 17 May 07
Tony Montana wrote:HA HA! if they were, I think Id go down and join them
I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside!
Rita, says...
4:04pm Thu 17 May 07
If this guys family had been travellers then I can almost guarantee he would have been looked after by at least one member of said family.
Gary, pitsea says...
4:36pm Thu 17 May 07
Tony Montana wrote:well i can say they are not sitting in the tents smoking weed that is so steroetypical of teenagers not all tennagers do that
<b> I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside! </b>
mike, pitsea says...
5:49pm Thu 17 May 07
walby, says...
5:55pm Thu 17 May 07
just another case of this government not looking after its own.
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
6:12pm Thu 17 May 07
what you should do is go into your local dhss put on an eastern european accent and the money and houses will be there in a flash.This absolute rubbish, if you are single, no children and young you get exactly the same treatment. It doesn't matter where you are from - same result!
just another case of this government not looking after its own.
Bored, says...
6:19pm Thu 17 May 07
Local Boy wrote:Whatever!
what you should do is go into your local dhss put on an eastern european accent and the money and houses will be there in a flash. just another case of this government not looking after its own.This absolute rubbish, if you are single, no children and young you get exactly the same treatment. It doesn't matter where you are from - same result!
Melody, Portsmouth says...
6:33pm Thu 17 May 07
walby, says...
7:05pm Thu 17 May 07
Melody wrote:sending their women out pickpocketing, running brothels with forced labour,cloning credit cards, theiving identities.
I don't know,not those pesky Eastern Europeans again;coming over here, turning up when they say they will,working really hard,no attempt to rip you off,or telling various females to get their t*ts out when they walk past; they are just not assimilating themselves to British culture at all are they?
Bored, says...
7:17pm Thu 17 May 07
Melody wrote:Armed raids on betting shops, knife attacks in off licences, thefts from shops, knife attacks in road rage incidents, rapes, targeting people praying in mosques, gangs that hang around preying on the vunerable, brutal attacks on trains....mmmm
I don't know,not those pesky Eastern Europeans again;coming over here, turning up when they say they will,working really hard,no attempt to rip you off,or telling various females to get their t*ts out when they walk past; they are just not assimilating themselves to British culture at all are they?
Melody, Portsmouth says...
7:29pm Thu 17 May 07
Bored wrote:Surely not all essex people are like that are they.Anyway I thought we were talking about Eastern Europeans.:)
Melody wrote: I don't know,not those pesky Eastern Europeans again;coming over here, turning up when they say they will,working really hard,no attempt to rip you off,or telling various females to get their t*ts out when they walk past; they are just not assimilating themselves to British culture at all are they?Armed raids on betting shops, knife attacks in off licences, thefts from shops, knife attacks in road rage incidents, rapes, targeting people praying in mosques, gangs that hang around preying on the vunerable, brutal attacks on trains....mmmm
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
7:43pm Thu 17 May 07
Bored is so whatever and Walby clearly so bored that they can't be bothered quoting facts, far to easy to use rhetoric, rumour and hearsay.
Getting facts is hard work, forming opinions from facts is even more challenging.
Blaming foreigners or people who are different, now that's easy.
Bored, says...
7:46pm Thu 17 May 07
Local Boy wrote:THEY ARE FACTS, THEY ARE FROM THE ECHO ARCHIVES. NEXT QUESTION?
Nice one one Melody, all the Eastern Europeans I have met work very hard. Bored is so whatever and Walby clearly so bored that they can't be bothered quoting facts, far to easy to use rhetoric, rumour and hearsay. Getting facts is hard work, forming opinions from facts is even more challenging. Blaming foreigners or people who are different, now that's easy.
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
7:56pm Thu 17 May 07
THEY ARE FACTS, THEY ARE FROM THE ECHO ARCHIVES. NEXT QUESTION?I do apologise bored if it's in the Echo archive it is obviously correct. When I search for the information should I enter Eastern European rapist and crooks or is there another search I should put in?
scotts dad, says...
8:24pm Thu 17 May 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
8:49pm Thu 17 May 07
walby wrote:Walby, where have you been? We've missed you!!!
what you should do is go into your local dhss put on an eastern european accent and the money and houses will be there in a flash. just another case of this government not looking after its own.
Fact 1. If you are a single male then the council will do sweet f.a to help you and under current homeless legislation do not have a legal requirement to do so.
Fact 2. Male or female, if you present to your local council with a medical condition, ie autism and he has been statemented then the council has a legal obligation to help him with temporary accomodation My thinking on this is if he was charged with a knife offence then they will not do it as many temp accomodation is a hostel with children in. They are within legal rights to deny him of this if they consider his criminal conviction to be a risk to others.
For the young lady in question if she is fleeing domestic violence as claimed then again the council have a legal obligation to temp house, if she has a medical condition then again this adds to her case.
Also she can approach womens aid, that is what they are there for.
It is not for anyone here to judge these people and it is easy to sit in our cosy homes in front of our pc's sitting in judgement. This could happen to anyone of us. In London most of the homeless are people who have served this country, put there lives on the line and when they leave they are tossed aside, just like children who leave the care system. Not all homeless are junkies or sit there smoking weed. Oh and another thing, not all crime is done by eastern europeans and travellers, there is not a travelling family that would sit back and let this happen to a member of there family, that I would put money on.
walby, says...
9:14pm Thu 17 May 07
of course your right lisa , they just develope what land they want to.
as soon as they need more room they just widen their boundaries.
before the council start to evict these people who ARE IN NEED, they should have a long hard think about the debacle they have allowed at dale farm.
Lisa Jensen, says...
9:15pm Thu 17 May 07
walby wrote:And I welcomed you back...
they dont have to , there is not a travelling family that would sit back and let this happen to a member of there family, that I would put money on. of course your right lisa , they just develope what land they want to. as soon as they need more room they just widen their boundaries. before the council start to evict these people who ARE IN NEED, they should have a long hard think about the debacle they have allowed at dale farm.
chris her brother, nottingham says...
10:26pm Thu 17 May 07
tina, basildon says...
10:42pm Thu 17 May 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
10:48pm Thu 17 May 07
chris her brother wrote:Please tell me how this is funny. IF as your sister alledges she was a victim of domestic abuse within YOUR household I would not be laughing. I would be hanging my head in shame. Tell us please, is the autistic as she says?
hi i am nats brother i think it is hilarious.:):) but shes chose this position not us so we dont know so she's made her bed and now she can lie in it
the painter, mayland says...
10:50pm Thu 17 May 07
The Vicar wrote:come on vicar wake up smell the coffee its a stunt now they have been in the paper i bet they are housed within two days if he was my boy i would put him in the loft if i had to
Tony Montana wrote:Even a tent in the back garden!
<b nd="58"> I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside! </b>
Perhaps they should take a leaf (sorry Essex Police) out of Eastenders. Some of those houses are only two bedroom but they manage to house about 15 generations of family.
You can't tell me there isn't room somewhere for a sleeping bag.
the painter, mayland says...
10:53pm Thu 17 May 07
Gary wrote:im on my way back now
Tony Montana wrote:well i can say they are not sitting in the tents smoking weed that is so steroetypical of teenagers not all tennagers do that
<b> I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside! </b>
chris her brother, nottingham says...
10:54pm Thu 17 May 07
the painter, mayland says...
10:55pm Thu 17 May 07
Local Boy wrote:are we both in the same country
what you should do is go into your local dhss put on an eastern european accent and the money and houses will be there in a flash.This absolute rubbish, if you are single, no children and young you get exactly the same treatment. It doesn't matter where you are from - same result!
just another case of this government not looking after its own.
tina, basildon says...
10:55pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy, says...
10:57pm Thu 17 May 07
Local Boy wrote:You are aware that any eastern european with a crminal record can enter this country just as any other person can dont you? you may have met a hard-working minority of immigrants but the fact is thousands of eastern european crminals have decided that instead of living in poverty where they are, they would rather enter the UK, where we have no record of their crimes, to further their criminal careers, as if they are caught, the prison cell they will be living in is alot better than their own home, and if they arnt caught, they have a garunteed £90 a fortnight in their pocket from benefits, free healthcare, free housing, etc why would they possibly stay in their own country to steal from other poor people?
Nice one one Melody, all the Eastern Europeans I have met work very hard.
Bored is so whatever and Walby clearly so bored that they can't be bothered quoting facts, far to easy to use rhetoric, rumour and hearsay.
Getting facts is hard work, forming opinions from facts is even more challenging.
Blaming foreigners or people who are different, now that's easy.
Bored, says...
11:16pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy wrote:Well said Billy. As for Local Boy, I thought I was having a conversation with Rod Hull and Emu, he obviously has his head in the sand. I wonder if he knows that council taxes could have to rise because of a massive underestimate in the number of immigrants coming to Britain. Charity begins at home as far as I'm concerned.
Local Boy wrote: Nice one one Melody, all the Eastern Europeans I have met work very hard. Bored is so whatever and Walby clearly so bored that they can't be bothered quoting facts, far to easy to use rhetoric, rumour and hearsay. Getting facts is hard work, forming opinions from facts is even more challenging. Blaming foreigners or people who are different, now that's easy.You are aware that any eastern european with a crminal record can enter this country just as any other person can dont you? you may have met a hard-working minority of immigrants but the fact is thousands of eastern european crminals have decided that instead of living in poverty where they are, they would rather enter the UK, where we have no record of their crimes, to further their criminal careers, as if they are caught, the prison cell they will be living in is alot better than their own home, and if they arnt caught, they have a garunteed £90 a fortnight in their pocket from benefits, free healthcare, free housing, etc why would they possibly stay in their own country to steal from other poor people?
Basildon Billy, says...
11:36pm Thu 17 May 07
ing lout and chav would be on the first ferry to calais, we are basically offering that to every country in europe, hence the fact about 70% of the people in UK prisons are immigrants
Bored, says...
11:43pm Thu 17 May 07
Basildon Billy wrote:It amazes me how anyone can think differently Billy, you only have to read the papers or watch the news to see what is really going on. This country is finished!.
Fact is, if u believe all immigrants that come here are hard-working, honest people that just want to be accepted into our society your incredibally naive, imagine if it was the other way round, imagine if france decided all immigants could claim benefits of £150 a week, the law was more relaxed, you didnt have to pay for housing, dental, healthcare, etc was all free, your criminal record was scrapped, you could claim child benefit for your children back home, who they cant prove doesnt exist, they made no effort to make u work, prison was like a hotel, you could sue and claim your human rights have been infringed if anything doesnt go your way, every argos-jewellery-wear ing lout and chav would be on the first ferry to calais, we are basically offering that to every country in europe, hence the fact about 70% of the people in UK prisons are immigrants
charlie, pitsea says...
11:58pm Thu 17 May 07
1st of all i would like to say "her" has a name so use it.and how u can sit there laughing about nat people like u make me sick i mean its ok for u u have a comfy bed to sleep in at nite put urself in nats position see how her life is now coz im telling you it is a **** way to live i wouldnt wish it on my worst enermy never mind my family.i just wish the council could help scott and nat out because its not nice seeing ppl living like this think how cold they r y were all sitting here nice and warm ..if i could help i would but ive only got a small 2 bedroom house and 5 ppl living her other wise i would let them come her..to scotts mum u should be proud of ur son most teenagers just think oh i wont get a job ill be on the dole all my life but atleast his trying i no its hard to find a job im looking my self nothing out there.. hope this has not affended anyone just thought ild ave my say .
scotts step-mum, billericay says...
8:17am Fri 18 May 07
the painter, mayland says...
9:17am Fri 18 May 07
tina wrote:in agreement twice in one day i want a urine sample off of you im sure your taking something
sorry yet again i have to agree with the painter (god whats happening to me) now that they have been in the paper the council cant afford to be seen as being this heartless so they will now proberbly find them somewhere to live
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
9:18am Fri 18 May 07
hence the fact about 70% of the people in UK prisons are immigrants
Usual clap trap from the "blame everything on the foreigners brigade"
Check your facts, the home office statistics on prison population are published and you will see that 84% of the male prison population is white and British.
The Vicar, says...
9:28am Fri 18 May 07
the painter wrote:I thought there was more to this story than meets the eye, painter.
<b>The Vicar wrote:come on vicar wake up smell the coffee its a stunt now they have been in the paper i bet they are housed within two days if he was my boy i would put him in the loft if i had to </b>
Tony Montana wrote:Even a tent in the back garden!
<b nd="58"> I bet they're sitting in that tent smoking weed and all sorts. Why don't his mum let him sleep in the garage or car, must be better than sleeping outside! </b>
Perhaps they should take a leaf (sorry Essex Police) out of Eastenders. Some of those houses are only two bedroom but they manage to house about 15 generations of family.
You can't tell me there isn't room somewhere for a sleeping bag.
Boof! There goes my sympathy in a flash of smoke.
What about the Albanians in this country? I don't think I've ever read a positive story about anyone from that country.
Can someone explain why?
Basildon Billy, says...
9:31am Fri 18 May 07
Bored, says...
9:43am Fri 18 May 07
Local Boy wrote:No wonder you failed your 11+ You clearly can't do sums.
hence the fact about 70% of the people in UK prisons are immigrantsUsual clap trap from the "blame everything on the foreigners brigade" Check your facts, the home office statistics on prison population are published and you will see that 84% of the male prison population is white and British.
Melody, Portsmouth says...
9:52am Fri 18 May 07
Basildon Billy wrote:Of course I do not believe that ALL immigrants are hard working honest people,in the same way that I do not believe that all British people are;to assume so would be naive,but to assume as you do is far worse.
Fact is, if u believe all immigrants that come here are hard-working, honest people that just want to be accepted into our society your incredibally naive, imagine if it was the other way round, imagine if france decided all immigants could claim benefits of £150 a week, the law was more relaxed, you didnt have to pay for housing, dental, healthcare, etc was all free, your criminal record was scrapped, you could claim child benefit for your children back home, who they cant prove doesnt exist, they made no effort to make u work, prison was like a hotel, you could sue and claim your human rights have been infringed if anything doesnt go your way, every argos-jewellery-wear ing lout and chav would be on the first ferry to calais, we are basically offering that to every country in europe, hence the fact about 70% of the people in UK prisons are immigrants
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
10:14am Fri 18 May 07
No wonder you failed your 11+ You clearly can't do sums.Quality comment bored. I assume you've given up arguing your points on facts and truth? I assume you did start from this basis?
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
10:22am Fri 18 May 07
most politicians dont even see home office stats as reliable
As we are dealing with facts Basildon Billy, how many politicians make up "most". Is that 1 MP or 2 MPs, is it 300+ MPs, are you including local councillors and county councillors. Do you include aspiring politicans who are hoping to be elected? Is the hous of lords included?
If you are going to quote facts you need them to be meaningful and specific not a wandering generality.
Basildon Billy, says...
10:47am Fri 18 May 07
quite frankly, for you to quote an official statistic shows you have no idea what your talking about
Bored, says...
10:50am Fri 18 May 07
Local Boy wrote:I don't have to argue my points they are staring at you in the face. The comments I made were fact. These people come over here with nothing, we give them everything they need and the majority of them repay us back by the crimes that I mentioned earlier (ALL FACT). There are British people living here who are on the streets with nothing and get nothing. It stinks!
No wonder you failed your 11+ You clearly can't do sums.Quality comment bored. I assume you've given up arguing your points on facts and truth? I assume you did start from this basis?
Basildon Billy, says...
11:02am Fri 18 May 07
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
11:14am Fri 18 May 07
Local boy, if you know about facts, you would know that nearly HALF of the UK's hospitals are due to close in the comming years because they cant afford to stay open anymore
This is not correct as is your assertion that there are no restrictions on people coming to the UK. You are plain wrong on both counts.
Basildon Billy, says...
11:27am Fri 18 May 07
ok, tell me what restrictions there are?
Ben Mitchell, says...
11:29am Fri 18 May 07
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
11:43am Fri 18 May 07
ffice.gov.uk/lawandp
olicy/immigrationrul
es/
Link to Rules of Entry to the UK
Basildon Billy, says...
11:49am Fri 18 May 07
from when a woman claimed asylum in the UK because she was "too tall" to live in pakistan I gave up on expecting these rules to be enforced, if you dont qualify for immigration, they simply send you away and tell you to return to a certain place on a certain date, which they hardly ever do
Local Boy, Hawkwell says...
12:13pm Fri 18 May 07
I do apologise I stated earlier that to find out facts took hard work. If you assimilated all 13 parts, 395 clauses and 5 appendices in 6 minutes I'm clearly dealing with a genius.
If an immigrant is in this country legally, by default they have adhered to the rules.
One example of an imigrant abusing the system does not mean they all do it.
If that is the case then I will happily state that the reasons A&E's are closing (something I'm worried about) is due to the number of drunk british slobs who end up at A&E early mornings Fridays and Saturdays. Or is it because we plan to throw out all the immigrants who keep our NHS running?
Melody, Portsmouth says...
12:22pm Fri 18 May 07
Joe, says...
12:44pm Fri 18 May 07
sarah_lou, romford says...
5:18pm Fri 18 May 07
sarah_lou, romford says...
5:19pm Fri 18 May 07
The Vicar, says...
5:28pm Fri 18 May 07
sarah_lou wrote:Is this true?
<b> has anyone bothered to think why scott woz made homeless? hes up for 3 charges of assault on his ex girlfriend and one on his baby daughter. this guy does not deserve to be re-housed anywhere other than a prison.</b>
I thought this story had more sides to it than a multi-dimensional tesseract!
sarah_lou, romford says...
5:41pm Fri 18 May 07
sarah_lou, romford says...
5:42pm Fri 18 May 07
Mat, Basildon says...
5:47pm Fri 18 May 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
5:51pm Fri 18 May 07
Mat wrote:Hold on a minute, this could well be someone starting a bloody witchhunt. Also innocent until proven guilty by a court of law!! This is not everyones cue to start attacking the chap while he is already down. I can not and will not condone any kind of violence, but really this is not the place to be stating these things or for anyone to start believing them is it?
If your gonna do such things then you shall be punished acting like an animal leads to living like an animal he will soon grow hooves and eat from a bucket
Lisa Jensen, says...
5:55pm Fri 18 May 07
chris her brother wrote:Do you not think that being autistic is in itself something that your family should of been helping her with? Maybe she was violent but that can be part of the illness numbnut. All of this does not add up to me somehow.
yes she is autistic and if u think that u can but i havent been abused and the scars on her arm are from the iron!!! ok well thats what she told us. also she was the violent 1 we just wanted her 2 clean her room and do a few chores!!! so if i think that we havent tryed why dnt u take her in and u will find it really difficult!!!!!!
tina, basildon says...
6:22pm Fri 18 May 07
Dean, Basildon says...
7:54pm Fri 18 May 07
flog, midlands says...
8:24pm Fri 18 May 07
stop relying on others and look after yourself you scumbags, i dont pay tax to look after you 3 stigs.
your homeless for a reason, there is no need for any person in this country to be poor or homeless, its just lazyness.
i bet you spend all your dole money on beer fags and pot noodles, sort yourselves out and come back wen you got rid of the lice in your hair and them yellow bits of crust stuck in your teeth.
peeeeeeace.
claire, basildon says...
8:31pm Fri 18 May 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
8:41pm Fri 18 May 07
flog wrote:Are you stupid or just trying to provoke a reaction? you are right in as much as there is no reason on earth anyone should be homeless or poor in this country, but the facts are that they are. It is hard to get on the property ladder, deposits, rent in advance, all don't come cheaply. What is poverty in your eyes? Is that not all relative? How far does £100 go nowadays? Not far if you take into account gas, electric etc. Even if someone isn't working and they get benefits, it is only enough to exist on, not live.
haha owned! stop relying on others and look after yourself you scumbags, i dont pay tax to look after you 3 stigs. your homeless for a reason, there is no need for any person in this country to be poor or homeless, its just lazyness. i bet you spend all your dole money on beer fags and pot noodles, sort yourselves out and come back wen you got rid of the lice in your hair and them yellow bits of crust stuck in your teeth. peeeeeeace.
housing officer, Basildon says...
8:42pm Fri 18 May 07
tina, basildon says...
8:50pm Fri 18 May 07
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
9:03pm Fri 18 May 07
If Scott was offered a place at Cranes Court then why do I have in front of me a letter from said place (dated 08/05/07...thats only 10 days ago)which states and I quote...
you do not fit the criterea for the Basildon FoyerI think half the people posting on here are not who they say they are,and Sarah Lou from Romford I think you should get your facts straight too...I have read your sisters police statement,and it says nothing about her witnessing the 'alledged assault' on my grandaughter...and I'm sure if you check with her she will confirm this.
claire, basildon says...
9:03pm Fri 18 May 07
Vickie, langdon hills, the posh part! says...
9:07pm Fri 18 May 07
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
9:13pm Fri 18 May 07
I thought you would know that we are well aware of what is happening in all aspects of this....you may wish to make your friend look totally blame free in all this and blame everything on Scott but I think we all realise there is more to this storey than meets the eye but the sensible ones of us have decided not to lower ourselves to name-calling,lieing and the like.
This column was about the plight of the homeless people in Essex,the ones the council say do not exist,why has it now turned into a free for all?
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
9:18pm Fri 18 May 07
I hope that everyone posting on this board will either get back to the newspaper article or just leave the site.
tina, basildon says...
10:11pm Fri 18 May 07
The Vicar, says...
10:58am Sat 19 May 07
Talk about dysfunctional families!
Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.
Bored, says...
12:48pm Sat 19 May 07
The Vicar wrote:They didn't get your sympathy vote then Vicar?
All of you involved in this are just a bunch of wasters and chavs. Talk about dysfunctional families! Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.
Scott's Mum, Basildon says...
2:41pm Sat 19 May 07
Who are you calling a time waster and a chav? I would like to point out that I am a professionally qualified person who holds a responsible position.I have done my best to bring up my family to be the sort of people who do not rely on handouts,but work for their keep.None of my family have a criminal record,and that is NOT just because they have never been caught!
All my son is trying to do is prove to the (mainly) good people of Essex that the council's quote in Wednesdays Echo that there are 'no rough sleepers on our streets' is a lie,as he and all the others in Thursdays Echo have definitely proved!
tina, basildon says...
6:22pm Sat 19 May 07
pips, basildon says...
7:35pm Sat 19 May 07
The Vicar wrote:i dont think what you have said here is approriate. i have known this family for 5 years in fact i am scotts brothers girlfreind. they are all lovely people. every person and family face problems and i dont think your an exception. nobody is perfect and niether are you so please do not judge through some newspaper artical. i think this is all getting to personal and over the top, anything else going on in their life other then the artcial is not anyone else's buisness.
All of you involved in this are just a bunch of wasters and chavs. Talk about dysfunctional families! Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.
his parents have always been there for him and he knows he can go home. but someone needs to make a stand to basildon council once and for all, and he wants to be the one to do it. so good on him.
tina, basildon says...
10:38pm Sat 19 May 07
pips, basildon says...
9:34am Sun 20 May 07
tina, basildon says...
10:00am Sun 20 May 07
pips, basildon says...
11:00am Sun 20 May 07
The Vicar, says...
11:10am Sun 20 May 07
pips wrote:The only people who have been slagging off that family have been his own friends and family.
who's vicar then? he is no friend of the family. no considerations of anybodys feeling. the whole family are nice people and nobody should be juding them. tina you didnt like it when i suggested you arent a nice person, well think how that would feel having 100 odd comments about you and your family. really people writing on here are of some age and need to think before the type. its not a nice situtaion to be in, all he wanted was a bit of help to get a flat or some sort of accomendation, honestly you cant say the council are right on this one !!!! and that is the whole conclusion of this artical the council are wrong to have a member of our society living on the streets.!!!!
They are the ones accusing him of beating his girlfriend up and other indiscretions.
Perhaps you could have washed your dirty laundry another way.
If you don't want comments then don't go public.
Perhaps you ought to look at the facts before you start criticising others.
pips, basildon says...
11:18am Sun 20 May 07
tina, basildon says...
11:26am Sun 20 May 07
pips wrote:that fact is pip he did go public and they wanted peoples opinion on this and they got it, like i told you my son privately rented then got offerd a council flat within the year, scott should also have taken his empolyers to the tribunal for sacking him just "just because he was homless" as was said, they cant do that just for being homless if that was the case
prehaps you shouldnt have wrote what you did, that was below the belt calling family members names when you dont know them. you are the one to look at the facts and they are what is in the artical not what other people have wrote.
pips, bas says...
11:32am Sun 20 May 07
tina, basildon says...
11:37am Sun 20 May 07
cas, basildon says...
6:00pm Sun 20 May 07
The Vicar wrote:Well said once again vicar.
All of you involved in this are just a bunch of wasters and chavs. Talk about dysfunctional families! Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.
Lisa Jensen, says...
7:01pm Sun 20 May 07
Tony Montana, essex says...
11:03am Mon 21 May 07
tina, basildon says...
11:39am Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana wrote:you cheeky little monkey :) you dont even know what i look like, you might not even like me, still that comment put me on a high :)
Tina if you ever need a hand in the bedroom i'd be willing to assist you. Preferably with your husband not present.
Tony Montana, says...
11:53am Mon 21 May 07
tina, basildon says...
12:14pm Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana, says...
12:19pm Mon 21 May 07
tina, basildon says...
12:24pm Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana, essex says...
12:30pm Mon 21 May 07
I dont mind the older woman anyway!
tina, basildon says...
12:32pm Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana, says...
12:46pm Mon 21 May 07
tina, basildon says...
12:51pm Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana, says...
12:57pm Mon 21 May 07
Bored, says...
12:57pm Mon 21 May 07
tina wrote:I know what he looks like Tina, I saw him once in my local toy shop. He has black hair, he wears a white suit with a red shirt, and has a scar running down his left eye...they call him SCARFACE!
there is noway i am putting a picture of me over the internet, i dont even know what you look like do i, i might not even like you, lol :)
Vickie, langdon hills, the posh part! says...
1:00pm Mon 21 May 07
Lisa Jensen wrote:thank you lisa! think everyone should go back to what the article is really about. instead of using it as a place to slag off and date!
The thing is Pip, very few peoples lives turn out how they envisage. This is a public forum and is here for ANYONE to put across there point of view. This couple brought themselves into the public eye and as such leave themselves open to suggestion, questioning and having every little bit of there lives, past and present delved into.
tina, basildon says...
1:02pm Mon 21 May 07
Tony Montana, says...
1:03pm Mon 21 May 07
Bored, says...
1:04pm Mon 21 May 07
tina wrote:He's also at the fancy dress hire shop...One size fits all ;)
o wer i didnt know he was an action figure, i think i could cope with that, its the scar that has got me going :)
tina, basildon says...
1:18pm Mon 21 May 07
Me, Basildon says...
8:16pm Mon 21 May 07
The Rev, Basildon says...
8:23pm Mon 21 May 07
The Vicar wrote:Hi Vicar im the Rev I can understand what ur goin on about but on the other hand get a life u said idiot, for the family and friends of the 2 individuals to come here and hope to make a differance and to have some pathetic lil sado that crawled out from under a very **** rock to bad mouth ppl that they dont even kno is crap. If u got an opinion come say it to one of us friends or one of the family and stop wasting space on this forum!! The Reverend Says Amen, Now Can I Hear A Hallelujah From The People?? God Bless
<b> All of you involved in this are just a bunch of wasters and chavs.
Talk about dysfunctional families!
Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.</b>
God, A nice big cloud. says...
8:55pm Mon 21 May 07
Love and peace.
tina, basildon says...
9:04pm Mon 21 May 07
tina, basildon says...
9:36pm Mon 21 May 07
Bored wrote:bored what was you doing in the toy shop and then in the fancy dress shop but more to the point what sort of toy shop was it eh childrens or adult toys :)
tina wrote: o wer i didnt know he was an action figure, i think i could cope with that, its the scar that has got me going :)He's also at the fancy dress hire shop...One size fits all ;)
Bored, says...
9:59am Tue 22 May 07
tina wrote:Adult of course ;)
Bored wrote:bored what was you doing in the toy shop and then in the fancy dress shop but more to the point what sort of toy shop was it eh childrens or adult toys :)tina wrote: o wer i didnt know he was an action figure, i think i could cope with that, its the scar that has got me going :)He's also at the fancy dress hire shop...One size fits all ;)
tina, basildon says...
11:25am Tue 22 May 07
Bored wrote:i like it i like it, :)
tina wrote:Adult of course ;)Bored wrote:bored what was you doing in the toy shop and then in the fancy dress shop but more to the point what sort of toy shop was it eh childrens or adult toys :)tina wrote: o wer i didnt know he was an action figure, i think i could cope with that, its the scar that has got me going :)He's also at the fancy dress hire shop...One size fits all ;)
The Vicar, says...
3:45pm Tue 22 May 07
The Rev wrote:They aren't making a difference though, Rev. They want something for nothing and are washing their dirty laundry in public. Want, want, want - that's what
<b>The Vicar wrote:Hi Vicar im the Rev I can understand what ur goin on about but on the other hand get a life u said idiot, for the family and friends of the 2 individuals to come here and hope to make a differance and to have some pathetic lil sado that crawled out from under a very **** rock to bad mouth ppl that they dont even kno is crap. If u got an opinion come say it to one of us friends or one of the family and stop wasting space on this forum!! The Reverend Says Amen, Now Can I Hear A Hallelujah From The People?? God Bless </b>
<b> All of you involved in this are just a bunch of wasters and chavs.
Talk about dysfunctional families!
Can you all go and find a big rock and climb under it please.</b>
It was all THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES who was slagging them off so get your facts right.
They HAVE somewhere to stay they are just choosing not to.
The only sad, pathetic little idiots are the ones camping outside.
Sorry, Rev, I didn't realise the Echo Forums was for the exclusive use of the McCarthy family and all their ACCUSING friends.
Bless you anyway ;)
n/b, pitsea says...
6:55pm Tue 22 May 07
The Vicar, says...
9:36pm Tue 22 May 07
n/b wrote:Yes - I can't be the only one to have noticed the "Hackney Drift" in Basildon.
Basildon council are quick to offer the new homes that will be built on the old james hornsby school site(laindon high rd) to people from hackney who will need to be relocated from the olympic village site, but these houses should be offered to local people first, Money really does talk doesn't it basildon council.
So much for looking after your own electorate.
Virgin Mary, Ex - East London says...
10:36pm Tue 22 May 07
The Angel Gabriel, Heavens Above says...
11:08pm Tue 22 May 07
Peter, Basildon says...
11:20am Wed 23 May 07
Bored, says...
11:23am Wed 23 May 07
Peter wrote:They shouldn't have gone public then should they!
all these people slagging off scott are a bunch of losers that need to realise not everything is a simple as they think. most people are reading this thinking it is a typical case of someone wanting to sponge of the council but it aint, i think people should leave Scott and his family alone to sort out there problems themselves.
tina, basildon says...
4:10pm Wed 23 May 07
Bored wrote:that was exactly what i said bored so i totally agree with you :)
Peter wrote: all these people slagging off scott are a bunch of losers that need to realise not everything is a simple as they think. most people are reading this thinking it is a typical case of someone wanting to sponge of the council but it aint, i think people should leave Scott and his family alone to sort out there problems themselves.They shouldn't have gone public then should they!
The Vicar, says...
11:36am Thu 24 May 07
The Vicar wrote:I was speaking solely on the housing side of things by the way.
<b>n/b wrote:Yes - I can't be the only one to have noticed the "Hackney Drift" in Basildon.
Basildon council are quick to offer the new homes that will be built on the old james hornsby school site(laindon high rd) to people from hackney who will need to be relocated from the olympic village site, but these houses should be offered to local people first, Money really does talk doesn't it basildon council.
So much for looking after your own electorate.</b>
All these little secret deals done between councils makes you wonder...
Peter, Basildon says...
2:40pm Thu 24 May 07
Peter, Basildon says...
2:40pm Thu 24 May 07
tina, basildon says...
8:09pm Thu 24 May 07
tina, basildon says...
8:29pm Thu 24 May 07
Peter wrote:actually peter i think you meant to put tina and bored not lisa, what i forgot to put also was I DONT LIKE BEING TOLD TO SHUT UP i tell my daughter off if she says that as i find it very rude, and who are you to these people anyway?
well i'm sorry 'LISA' and 'BORED' but i don't even know why you are getting involved in this slagging people off so shut up and sort your lifes out coz your doing my head in! jesus, are you that bored with your own lifes that you have to slag other people off to make yourselfs feel better, sort it out yeah....
Bored, says...
9:53pm Thu 24 May 07
Bored wrote:How am I slagging off people by this comment?. If they didn't want the attention then they shouldn't have gone to the press...End of!
Peter wrote: all these people slagging off scott are a bunch of losers that need to realise not everything is a simple as they think. most people are reading this thinking it is a typical case of someone wanting to sponge of the council but it aint, i think people should leave Scott and his family alone to sort out there problems themselves.They shouldn't have gone public then should they!
Lisa Jensen, says...
10:30pm Thu 24 May 07
Bored wrote:I have not slagged anyone off here or anywhere else. I have only stated facts and if you bother to read all of the comments correctly you will see that I was offering advice and if they do not want people to comment on there lifestyle then they shouldn't have it out there for public fodder.
Bored wrote:How am I slagging off people by this comment?. If they didn't want the attention then they shouldn't have gone to the press...End of!Peter wrote: all these people slagging off scott are a bunch of losers that need to realise not everything is a simple as they think. most people are reading this thinking it is a typical case of someone wanting to sponge of the council but it aint, i think people should leave Scott and his family alone to sort out there problems themselves.They shouldn't have gone public then should they!
tina, basildon says...
10:32pm Thu 24 May 07
Bored wrote:i dont know why peter feels he has got the right to tell us what we can and cant say anyway bored has not even slagged anyone off all he said was why go public which is faie enough so come on peter tell us what we have done wrong, IT WAS HIS FAMILY THAT DID THE SLAGGING NOT ME AND BORED OK
Bored wrote:How am I slagging off people by this comment?. If they didn't want the attention then they shouldn't have gone to the press...End of!Peter wrote: all these people slagging off scott are a bunch of losers that need to realise not everything is a simple as they think. most people are reading this thinking it is a typical case of someone wanting to sponge of the council but it aint, i think people should leave Scott and his family alone to sort out there problems themselves.They shouldn't have gone public then should they!
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