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Rayleigh shooting latest
8:44am Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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A MAN who was shot in the chest after intervening in a robbery has said if he had the time again, he would do exactly the same thing.
Adam Mapleson, 24, said he did not regret the split-second decision he made as armed robbers held up two Loomis security guards at Rayleigh railway station on May 25.
Mr Mapleson, of Rayleigh - who featured on the BBC's Crimewatch programme last night - had tried to protect a woman security guard who was loading the cash machine. But he was shot in the chest with a handgun as one of the robbers grabbed the cash box from the security guard and made a run for it.
Mr Mapleson, an IT support technician, said: "I could see out of the corner of my eye that no one was really doing anything and, in those few seconds that I had to make a call on what to do, I took it upon myself to just go for it and try to help.
"Obviously it didn't really turn out how I would have hoped.
"But I don't really regret stepping in at all.
"If everything played out (again) as it did, I would have done exactly the same thing."
Mr Mapleson said his recollections of the shooting were unclear in parts.
He said: "I don't actually know when he did shoot me. I was quite disorientated. I put my hand to my chest and saw a lot of blood.
"I didn't really feel much pain at all - I think it's just all the adrenalin and the shock."
During the programme Adam also revealed he needed 16 pints of blood after the incident and half of his collarbone has had to be removed.
But he is determined to try to return his life to normality.
He said: "I want to end up going back to work."
The BBC programme showed a reconstruction of the dramatic event, in which police renewed their plea for information on the crime.
The gunmen escaped in a white Ford Escort, opening the cash box en route and setting off a paint device inside.
Mr Mapleson underwent emergency surgery at Southend Hospital after the shooting and is now back at home with his family.
He is recovering well, but has restricted movement in his right arm and shoulder because it is too early to begin physiotherapy.
He has urged anyone who was near Rayleigh station on May 25, or who has any information, to call police on 0800 405040.
Help police catch the robbers
THE detective leading the investigation into the shooting of Adam Mapleson has described it as a "callous and premeditated" crime.
Speaking on the BBC Crimewatch programme, Det Supt Mick Field, of British Transport Police, urged anyone who knows the robbers' identity to come forward.
He is confident someone may have seen the men as they tried to make their escape from the burning white Ford Escort after they opened the cash cassette and triggered a security device containing red dye.
He said: "This was a callous and premeditated crime.
"We know they didn't have any disguise so we have managed to get two very good e-fits and believe they would have been quite distinctive when they ran away from the burning vehicle because of the dye.
"Some of the witnesses have described them as looking like they had a sun tan."
The car was dumped and set alight in Eastcheap, Rayleigh, and the crooks made off in a waiting dark blue or black Mercedes 190 or BMW saloon.
Mr Field also appealed to anyone who had seen the white Ford Escort, registration number M134 TRC, between May 17, when it was seen on CCTV footage crossing into Essex from Dartford, and May 25, when the crime took place.
There is a 25,000 reward for any information leading to the conviction of the two men.
After the appeal, Mr Field said the public had given 25 names of possible suspects. He said one looked particularly promising but added it was early days.
The first suspect is described as:
White man in his late 30s
Walked with a limp
Stocky build
Brown hair, maybe with a pony tail
Wearing a dark jacket, trainers and a bandana around his neck
The second suspect is described as:
White man in his 20s to 30s
Medium build
Short brown hair
Local accent
Wearing blue jeans, white trainers, brown jacket and dark baseball cap.
Your Say YourEcho
Ben Beecroft, Rayleigh Moat Rise says...
9:49am Fri 25 May 07
denumz, Rayleigh says...
9:56am Fri 25 May 07
James Maddock, says...
9:58am Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Girl, Rayleigh says...
10:01am Fri 25 May 07
kieren, says...
10:05am Fri 25 May 07
Neil Fitzgerald, Southampton says...
10:28am Fri 25 May 07
I'm from Rayleigh, went off to uni and decided I didn't want to come back.
I've seen massive development and now hoards of chavs.
Rayleigh used to be different from other parts of South Essex, if it's not careful it will go downhill.
Communter, Rayleigh says...
10:31am Fri 25 May 07
resident, Rayleigh says...
10:47am Fri 25 May 07
Mike, Rayleigh says...
10:54am Fri 25 May 07
Dan, Rayleigh says...
11:09am Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh resident, Rayleigh says...
11:10am Fri 25 May 07
Shocked & Saddened, Rayleigh / London says...
11:30am Fri 25 May 07
The ambulance and paramedics arrived just as I had boarded the 07:23 train to London.
I have lived in Rayleigh for over thirteen years now and have seen a big change in the town in that time.
What was once a small, quiet and friendly town has slowly degenerated alongside it's expansion.
Let us hope the young man survives his injuries and that the scum that did it are caught & punished.
Essex Girl, Rayleigh says...
11:36am Fri 25 May 07
emma, rayleigh says...
11:38am Fri 25 May 07
Laura, Rayleigh says...
11:47am Fri 25 May 07
Hannah, Rayleigh says...
11:50am Fri 25 May 07
The Colonel, Hockley says...
11:51am Fri 25 May 07
With the paint dye bombs in use these days, even if they get away from the scene both they and the money get indelibly coated and therefore are easy to trace.
These two sound so ham-fisted, they're bound to be caught soon.
It's just a pity that an innocent member of the public was caught up in their getaway.
Rayleigh Resident, Rayleigh says...
11:59am Fri 25 May 07
rayleigh commuter, Rayleigh says...
12:09pm Fri 25 May 07
Mark, Rayleigh says...
12:11pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Bod, says...
12:15pm Fri 25 May 07
Yes, it's not the cute little town it used to be, but where is in this day and age. Rayleigh is still much better than most areas, it's just brought to light that these scum bags are all over the country and can hit anywhere. The answer is not to run and move out to some where that will inevitably have the same problems at some stage, but to keep the good citizens here, and catch and punish the scum bags who try and disrupt the peace. The criminals where obviously dumb amatuers who didn't have a clue what they were doing and will inevitably be caught soon. Best wishes to the poor chap who got involved, our thoughts are with him and his family.
The Vicar, says...
12:18pm Fri 25 May 07
It's completely out of control now and we seem to be turning more and more into America every day.
Hope the young guy is okay though.
It goes to show that there are good decent people around who are willing to put themselves at risk to help others.
Here's hoping he makes a swift recovery.
Graham, Rayleigh - North says...
12:35pm Fri 25 May 07
Sam & Brett, Rawreth Lane, Rayleigh says...
12:39pm Fri 25 May 07
drew, Rayleigh says...
12:40pm Fri 25 May 07
I thikn they should be strung up in the town centre for us locals to torture!!
john, rayleigh says...
12:42pm Fri 25 May 07
Doug, Wakering says...
12:43pm Fri 25 May 07
Hope this guy is OK.
Matt, Rayleigh says...
12:43pm Fri 25 May 07
miss edwards, southend on sea says...
12:44pm Fri 25 May 07
shootings can happen anywhere at anytime it doesnt mean rayleigh is now a bad place, hope the young lad is ok
Peter, Southend-on-Sea says...
12:49pm Fri 25 May 07
The guns in this country do not originate in this country, and are not generally imported by or exported to, by legitmate uk citizens.
If (and this is a big if) another political party in elected next general election (let all hope & pray its not that buffon Cameron, or the country will become even more despondent) then they will probably claim success immediately with regards to gun crime & immigration.
But the fact of the matter is that by the time they do get elected the current administrations restrictions on immigration and gun crime, etc will have started to take effect.
Unfortunately it seems that 'culture' (guns, drugs, etc) in america usually takes a good 10 years or so to become 'culture' in London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool etc then a few more years to filter down to regular UK towns and cities.
I sincerely hope that the innocent victim makes a speedy recovery.
This was a definate eye opener as i was brought up in eastwood/rayleigh.
local, rayleigh says...
12:52pm Fri 25 May 07
Bev Deacon, Rayleigh says...
12:54pm Fri 25 May 07
nimrod, rayleigh says...
12:57pm Fri 25 May 07
If you dont like Rayleigh there are plenty of estate agents SO MOVE!!!!!!!!
Bored, says...
12:58pm Fri 25 May 07
Mark, Rayleigh says...
12:59pm Fri 25 May 07
rayleigh commuter, rayleigh station says...
1:00pm Fri 25 May 07
Heather, Rayleigh says...
1:02pm Fri 25 May 07
Dave, Hockley says...
1:04pm Fri 25 May 07
Looks like the sooner the Police Catch these scum the safer Rayleigh will become
Nicola, Rayleigh says...
1:09pm Fri 25 May 07
I agree with everyones comments, Rayleigh isnt as nice as it used to be but then it also isnt as bad as some other places either.
I think the amount of planning that is going on and being passed is ridiculous as Rayleigh simply cannot cope plus new Asda in rayleigh its just crazy somewhere someone is lining their pockets...
Nicola, Rayleigh says...
1:12pm Fri 25 May 07
I agree with the comment about bring back Capital punishment, I hope they catch these 2 lowlifes and put them away. Looking at judges these days thy will probably get a caution!!!
The Colonel, Hockley says...
1:15pm Fri 25 May 07
The Police station is only a few seconds away by car, what on earth were they doing while members of the public were tending to the injured?
Rayleigh Resident, Rayleigh says...
1:17pm Fri 25 May 07
Chris Black, Rayleigh says...
1:20pm Fri 25 May 07
Like Neil Fitzgerald I grew up here and went off to uni - but I came back, and jave never regretted it.
Nicola, if you are concerned about overdevelopment (like me) make sure you respond to the council's consultation about 1800 houses for Rayleigh!
nicola, Rayleigh says...
1:22pm Fri 25 May 07
nicola, Rayleigh says...
1:22pm Fri 25 May 07
Neil Fitzgerald, Southampton says...
1:22pm Fri 25 May 07
There are more 'discount shops' opening and more chavs hanging about.
Rayleigh is being overdeveloped and crowded.
Yes it is still nicer than other parts of Essex but it's not difficult to be nicer than Basildon.
P.S. Nimrod,
Why should people be forced to move because an area they love is changing?
nicola, Rayleigh says...
1:24pm Fri 25 May 07
There isnt any room they have already knocked down a school to build more houses yet havent replaced the school!! so fewer schools more pupils humm that makes more sense.
Sorry off the point here.
Sarah, Essex says...
1:26pm Fri 25 May 07
Hope Southend Hospital are looking after the man well, really hope he can get through this.
Is it a conincidence that there is an air gun shop really close to there? Guns are guns... that shop shouldnt be there.
Mike, Rayleigh says...
1:30pm Fri 25 May 07
Chris Black, rayleigh says...
1:31pm Fri 25 May 07
Rita, says...
1:32pm Fri 25 May 07
If it gets too much in Rayleigh let me know, we could do with a councillor like you where I come from!
I don't know you, but I've read previous posts etc and want to say, keep up the good work!
stevie, Liverpool says...
1:32pm Fri 25 May 07
shocked and saddened, Rayleigh says...
1:34pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Girl, Rayleigh says...
1:35pm Fri 25 May 07
I'm sorry but parts of Rayleigh are changing. The high street is going down hill.
I completely agree with Neil - rayleigh is going down hill and sadly it's taken this awful incident for people to speak out about it. Ok, so it's not as bad as some places in Essex or England as a whole but why should i be made to feel forced out of a town I love and have grown up in all my life due to a minority of mindless thugs and idiots who think they are better than the rest and above the law? It's more the "shock factor" that something like this could happen in "little old Rayleigh". Lets just hope it is a one off. My thoughts are with the poor innocent guy involved and his family.
Chris Black, Rayleigh says...
1:40pm Fri 25 May 07
Rita, says...
1:41pm Fri 25 May 07
I'll "see" you on the Rayleigh plans post and try to explain why! ;-)
Lisa Jensen, says...
1:44pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh girl, Rayleigh says...
1:46pm Fri 25 May 07
I do hope this guy is OK and my thoughts are with him. Rayleigh is one of the better places in Essex and I am proud to have lived here for 22 years (all my life).
Hopefully all those people who witnessed this shocking event come forward to help piece everything together so these two low lifes pay for disrupting our lovely and still simply the best town!
Rayleigh Resident, says...
1:51pm Fri 25 May 07
Sue, Nr Rayleigh, Essex says...
1:54pm Fri 25 May 07
Regarding the immoral low-lifes who did this - someone out there knows who they are. Please do the right thing and contact the police - these people cannot go round doing these things and expect to get away with it! Not everyone has the morals of a sewer rat!!
resident, rayleigh says...
1:58pm Fri 25 May 07
nimrod, rayleigh says...
2:10pm Fri 25 May 07
As much as I do not wish to get in an argument with you about this point,when the most important issue is obviously the poor victim,the fact is everybody does have a choice and can move if they wish.
All I was trying to point out is that I still enjoy being a resident of Rayleigh and do not believe it as bad as being portrayed in these comments!
Neil Fitzgerald, Southampton says...
2:32pm Fri 25 May 07
The point I'm making is that would have been less likely 10 years ago that he was shot in Rayleigh.
I also agree with Chris regarding standing for council. I have done so down here in Southampton. If you want to make a difference do something about it!
31yr old rayleigh resident, off downhall road says...
2:36pm Fri 25 May 07
I dont think the travellers joy pub does anything for the town image either, all p###ed heads laying over the grass in the summer, broken glass, chips.... i'm not sounding my age now but i'm speaking as a father.
villager, Rayleigh says...
2:39pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikki, Rochford says...
2:39pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh born and bred, Rayleigh says...
2:46pm Fri 25 May 07
Secondly to those scum that performed this cowardly act. You WILL be CAUGHT! You will be PUNISHED! And we will ALL be there to watch you get sent down for being the low life SCUM we all know you are!
Village Gossip, says...
2:48pm Fri 25 May 07
villager wrote:POT LEADS TO GUNCRIME!
V sad for the chap that was shot. The police will catch them for sure, the struggle is making the charges stick. shootings can and do happen anywhere, this just seems closer to home as we all commute at around that time. I moved from London 4 years ago to Rayleigh. With the 14 year olds smoking pot freely at the station imagine what they will be like when they are 18
Exclusive link made by local uninformed gossip!!
Well done you fool.
Lesley, says...
2:49pm Fri 25 May 07
Every night I get off the train at Hockley and can smell skunk. I wonder if there's a hydroponics operation going on in Plumberow Avenue?
My husband has seen kids as young as 11 or 12 smoking dope in Hockley. We need a zero tolerance policy right now to nip it in the bud.
Lesley, says...
2:51pm Fri 25 May 07
Dope smoking requires drug dealers. Drug dealers = gun crime especially when the big guys arrive to carve up the territory.
They may not rob securicor vans, but drugs are bad news in any community.
Trav Chav, Rayleigh says...
2:55pm Fri 25 May 07
What's wrong with the Trav?
Great pub, great booze, great chips and the broken glass is 'cos we're hard!
Ian, Rayleigh says...
2:58pm Fri 25 May 07
Anna, rayleigh says...
3:01pm Fri 25 May 07
S, says...
3:02pm Fri 25 May 07
My parents can't walk down the high street on a friday night without getting an earful off the underage, boozed up, stoned; hoodies that hang around outside the keebab hut. In my eyes parents need to take some resonsibility to sort their kids out in order to stop them getting worse as they get older - clearly liked the gunman this morning.
Chris Black, Rayleigh says...
3:02pm Fri 25 May 07
Neil - well done for standing (whatever colour rosette!) What do you think can/should be done to turn things around? (For example ,one resident has suggested to me that we should try to turn the High St into a centre for good restaurants)
Maybe the only good thing that has come out of today is that it shows how many people care about the town....
nimrod, says...
3:06pm Fri 25 May 07
I think if you were to research the news archives for 10 years ago there would still be tragic events such as these . Not only in the inner cities but also suburban settings such as this.
The fact is that having been a resident of Rayleigh for 35 yrs I do not see the social swing is any more apparent here than elsewhere which is being suggested in some of the comments here.
To the best of my recollection, this is an unprecedented incident in Rayleigh and in is quite likely to be the actions of scum from outside the area.
Peter Rees-Bopkins, Rayleigh says...
3:07pm Fri 25 May 07
Neil Fitzgerald, Southampton says...
3:07pm Fri 25 May 07
KATE, Rayleigh says...
3:12pm Fri 25 May 07
Trav Chav wrote:THERE'S ALWAYS ONE ....GET A GRIP, GROW UP AND REALISE THIS IS A SERIOUS FORUM. YOUR MUM WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU, YOU IMMATURE IDIOT
Eh? What's wrong with the Trav? Great pub, great booze, great chips and the broken glass is 'cos we're hard!
tina, basildon says...
3:16pm Fri 25 May 07
Trav Chav, Rayleigh says...
3:16pm Fri 25 May 07
Actually my Mum is proud of me :)
Really Kate, get a grip.
tina, 081-207 says...
3:19pm Fri 25 May 07
Trav Chav wrote:you should be disgusted with yourself, if you was my son i wouldnt be proud of you GROW UP YOU PRAT
Please caps on a Friday? Actually my Mum is proud of me :) Really Kate, get a grip.
Neil T, Rayleigh says...
3:20pm Fri 25 May 07
Once again best wishes to the injured man for a speedy recovery. Lets hope the cowardly scumbags are caught very soon and locked up. Then again we don't even hold terror suspects in this country we let them wander around freely to then be able to escape!!
Trav Chav, Rayleigh says...
3:25pm Fri 25 May 07
Are you being abusive? Yes.
So who needs to grow up now?
thank you.
you should be disgusted with yourself, if you was my son i wouldnt be proud of you GROW UP YOU PRA
rayleigh commuter, rayleigh says...
3:28pm Fri 25 May 07
KATE, RAYLEIGH says...
3:31pm Fri 25 May 07
tina, basildon says...
3:31pm Fri 25 May 07
Trav Chav wrote:erm yes you was and no i wasnt and kate seemed to think so aswell judging by her comment so "i thank you"
Tina, please, was I abusive? No. Are you being abusive? Yes. So who needs to grow up now? thank you.you should be disgusted with yourself, if you was my son i wouldnt be proud of you GROW UP YOU PRA
Mark, Rayleigh says...
3:34pm Fri 25 May 07
Just ignore it. This guy is quite clearly a bit special needs. ignore him he will go away
tina, basildon says...
3:39pm Fri 25 May 07
Mark wrote:you are proberbly right mark, i really hope that poor bloke who got shot recovers fully, although this will be with him for the rest of his life now lot of love goes out to him and his family X
Tina/Kate, Just ignore it. This guy is quite clearly a bit special needs. ignore him he will go away
Vikzter, Rochford says...
3:42pm Fri 25 May 07
KATE, Rayleigh says...
3:42pm Fri 25 May 07
Nick, Eastwood says...
3:51pm Fri 25 May 07
Maybe this is a wake up call for the British government to sort out the judicial system. After all if the scum that did this do get caught they will probably only get community service or a bound over sentance due to prison over crowding. Not really a big gamble for the high yield if they did manage to get away with it.
Maybe if they ran a risk of life meaning life they would think twice about picking up that gun and maybe get a real job and earn a decent crust like the rest of us! as opposed to forcing trauma on so many innocent parties!
Mike, Rayleigh says...
3:52pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter, Rochford says...
3:57pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:02pm Fri 25 May 07
THIS IS THE BULLETIN I HAVE POSTED!!
I know this probably sounds really pathetic but I'm startin this bulletin to show the friends and family of the Rayleigh hero that we are all thinking of them!!!
The guy (who has not yet been named) is in his 20's so no doubt he is on myspace somewhere or atleast someone who knows him is and they will see this!!
For those of you who havn't heard, this guy got shot whilst trying to help a security officer from armed robbers who was filling up the cash machine at Rayleigh train station!
Please, please add your name below to show we are thinking of him, his friends and family!!
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¢¾Vikz¢¾
*Lisa*
I know some of you on here know him so this is to show that we are thinkin of you!! I know there are only 2 names at the moment but don't forget people who are at work havn't even heard whats happened yet!! :o)
tina, basildon says...
4:02pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter wrote:i go to loads of council meetings asking them to do things for the youngsters, they promise to do things like, there was supposed to be a drop in center for them at vange but at the last min they changed their minds they wont have younth clubs coz they said we cant get anyone to man them and when we aske dfor a park they turned that down saying there wasnt enough money, we cant win can we :)
I wasn't looking for an argument over this but please don't try blaming the parents!! It's not always they're fault!! My parents were always takin me places and let me do the hobbies I wanted and even helped with them!! The thing was that I had no where to go with my friends after school!! Yes we went round each others houses but we also wanted to go out and have fun!! All I'm saying is perhaps there should be more youth clubs and things for them!!
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:06pm Fri 25 May 07
tina wrote:It's silly!! I used to go to a youth group at Greensward but that had to stop because of certain people who were out of control (and I think they only went to the club once in a blue moon) messed it up for the others!! They've got money for other things like doing up Southend Highstreet and making it nice for the youths to hang around but they can't do things to keep them occupied!!
Vikzter wrote: I wasn't looking for an argument over this but please don't try blaming the parents!! It's not always they're fault!! My parents were always takin me places and let me do the hobbies I wanted and even helped with them!! The thing was that I had no where to go with my friends after school!! Yes we went round each others houses but we also wanted to go out and have fun!! All I'm saying is perhaps there should be more youth clubs and things for them!!i go to loads of council meetings asking them to do things for the youngsters, they promise to do things like, there was supposed to be a drop in center for them at vange but at the last min they changed their minds they wont have younth clubs coz they said we cant get anyone to man them and when we aske dfor a park they turned that down saying there wasnt enough money, we cant win can we :)
rayleigh resident, rayleigh says...
4:15pm Fri 25 May 07
THIS POOR YOUNG MAN IS SERIOUSLY ILL IN HOSPITAL HAVING TRIED TO HELP A STRANGER!!!!
I THINK WE SHOULD BE OFFERING OUR BEST WISHES AND HOPE THAT HE MAKES A FULL RECOVERY.
WHO KNOWS HOW OLD THE ROBBERS ARE? NOTHING TO SAY THEY AREN'T PENSIONERS!!!!!!!!!!
!!
PLEASE USE THIS TO PASS ON YOUR KIND WISHES NOT DISCUSS POLITICS AND THE DECLINE IN SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR.
Andy, Southend says...
4:17pm Fri 25 May 07
Doug, Wakering says...
4:21pm Fri 25 May 07
Brian, London says...
4:22pm Fri 25 May 07
Nick, Eastwood says...
4:27pm Fri 25 May 07
rayleigh resident wrote:This is an open forum, forum meaning an open discussion where people can discuss their thoughts and opinions.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP DISCUSSING HOW RAYLEIGH HAS GONE DOWN HILL, HOW THE YOUTH OF TODAY ARE TO BLAME OR THE PARENTS. THIS POOR YOUNG MAN IS SERIOUSLY ILL IN HOSPITAL HAVING TRIED TO HELP A STRANGER!!!! I THINK WE SHOULD BE OFFERING OUR BEST WISHES AND HOPE THAT HE MAKES A FULL RECOVERY. WHO KNOWS HOW OLD THE ROBBERS ARE? NOTHING TO SAY THEY AREN'T PENSIONERS!!!!!!!!!! !! PLEASE USE THIS TO PASS ON YOUR KIND WISHES NOT DISCUSS POLITICS AND THE DECLINE IN SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR.
I think you will find the majority of people have started their comments by noting their sorrow for the victim and family and sending best wishes before they express their opinions about the local area, and other recent events in the area that have a direct impact on the overall perception of a small essex town!
who are you to try and over rule anybodies right to free speech and expression of opinions, bearing in mind this is an open forum!
Resident of 6 years, Rayleigh says...
4:29pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Thru & Thru, ray says...
4:29pm Fri 25 May 07
tina wrote:Tina with all respect you are talking about issues in basildon which fulls under a different council. I am rayleigh born and bred and we had more things to do when i was young. I have 3 kids and mine dont hang around streets and scare old people in the high street late at nigh. so Im sorry the parents are to blame because if my kids are not doing it why ae they?
Vikzter wrote: I wasn\\\'t looking for an argument over this but please don\\\'t try blaming the parents!! It\\\'s not always they\\\'re fault!! My parents were always takin me places and let me do the hobbies I wanted and even helped with them!! The thing was that I had no where to go with my friends after school!! Yes we went round each others houses but we also wanted to go out and have fun!! All I\\\'m saying is perhaps there should be more youth clubs and things for them!!i go to loads of council meetings asking them to do things for the youngsters, they promise to do things like, there was supposed to be a drop in center for them at vange but at the last min they changed their minds they wont have younth clubs coz they said we cant get anyone to man them and when we aske dfor a park they turned that down saying there wasnt enough money, we cant win can we :)
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:29pm Fri 25 May 07
Kate, Hockley says...
4:31pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:33pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Thru & Thru wrote:Please don't blame the parents!! Look at what I sed before!! I used to hang around at Hockley station but that didnt make me a gunmen/women or anything!!! That was the only place I could go with my friends that was near my house and at that time it was fairly safe!!
tina wrote:Tina with all respect you are talking about issues in basildon which fulls under a different council. I am rayleigh born and bred and we had more things to do when i was young. I have 3 kids and mine dont hang around streets and scare old people in the high street late at nigh. so Im sorry the parents are to blame because if my kids are not doing it why ae they?Vikzter wrote: I wasn\\\\\\\'t looking for an argument over this but please don\\\\\\\'t try blaming the parents!! It\\\\\\\'s not always they\\\\\\\'re fault!! My parents were always takin me places and let me do the hobbies I wanted and even helped with them!! The thing was that I had no where to go with my friends after school!! Yes we went round each others houses but we also wanted to go out and have fun!! All I\\\\\\\'m saying is perhaps there should be more youth clubs and things for them!!i go to loads of council meetings asking them to do things for the youngsters, they promise to do things like, there was supposed to be a drop in center for them at vange but at the last min they changed their minds they wont have younth clubs coz they said we cant get anyone to man them and when we aske dfor a park they turned that down saying there wasnt enough money, we cant win can we :)
nick, eastwood says...
4:33pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter wrote:my initial thought was "why would you get involved in an armed robber"
time it took for the police to get there was long enough!!! Are yoiu tellin me if someone's life was in danger your instinct would not be to try and help?!?! Hmmm.....
but then tried to think about rational thought in the heat of the moment and being placed in that situation. i think human instict would prevail to help others
Resident of 6 years, Rayleigh says...
4:33pm Fri 25 May 07
nick, eastwood says...
4:36pm Fri 25 May 07
Resident of 6 years wrote:here here, does rayleight and eastwood have a residents committee???
On the other comments regarding the state of Rayleigh. Maybe as well as expressing them on somewhere like here we should also express them to the local authorities. Strength in numbers. If we all took the time to write a letter or e-mail about our feeling on what is happening to the area we live in maybe it could have some positive results.
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:36pm Fri 25 May 07
nick wrote:I think that's everyone's 1st thought to be honest but instinct tells you to help, if it doesn't then I dont know what wrong with you!!
Vikzter wrote: time it took for the police to get there was long enough!!! Are yoiu tellin me if someone's life was in danger your instinct would not be to try and help?!?! Hmmm.....my initial thought was "why would you get involved in an armed robber" but then tried to think about rational thought in the heat of the moment and being placed in that situation. i think human instict would prevail to help others
Mark, rayleigh says...
4:42pm Fri 25 May 07
PNUTTTTTTT, RAYLEIGH DA GHETTO LOL says...
4:44pm Fri 25 May 07
nicola, rayleigh says...
4:47pm Fri 25 May 07
Also speaking out at commitees doesnt do anything, they very rarely listen to the residents, the people elect them and thats where it ends, democracy!!!!!!!.... yeah right
nick, eastwood says...
4:48pm Fri 25 May 07
PNUTTTTTTT wrote:glad to see the youth expressing their opinion, maybe spending more time studying your understanding of english language and grammar would be a far better idea than standing on street corners wasting the precious time of our public service resources
all da people talking about chavs and kids! it probably was full grown men, and people talking about the ghetto its rayleigh! if you dont like it and its that bad move away, dont fink everyone cares to be honest! you cant give someone an ASBO for standing in the ihgh street lol! just listen to urselves talking MUPPETS!
Mark, rayleigh says...
4:49pm Fri 25 May 07
tina, basildon says...
4:52pm Fri 25 May 07
Rayleigh Thru & Thru wrote:i was only talking in general, i had plenty to do when i was a kid im 45 now my kids dont run riot either never have done 1 is 25 and the other 12, i wasnt getting at anyone just commenting in general
tina wrote:Tina with all respect you are talking about issues in basildon which fulls under a different council. I am rayleigh born and bred and we had more things to do when i was young. I have 3 kids and mine dont hang around streets and scare old people in the high street late at nigh. so Im sorry the parents are to blame because if my kids are not doing it why ae they?Vikzter wrote: I wasn\\\'t looking for an argument over this but please don\\\'t try blaming the parents!! It\\\'s not always they\\\'re fault!! My parents were always takin me places and let me do the hobbies I wanted and even helped with them!! The thing was that I had no where to go with my friends after school!! Yes we went round each others houses but we also wanted to go out and have fun!! All I\\\'m saying is perhaps there should be more youth clubs and things for them!!i go to loads of council meetings asking them to do things for the youngsters, they promise to do things like, there was supposed to be a drop in center for them at vange but at the last min they changed their minds they wont have younth clubs coz they said we cant get anyone to man them and when we aske dfor a park they turned that down saying there wasnt enough money, we cant win can we :)
Shocked, Rayleigh says...
4:53pm Fri 25 May 07
tina, basildon says...
4:54pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:54pm Fri 25 May 07
Resident of 6 years, Rayleigh says...
4:56pm Fri 25 May 07
The place to log your annoyance would be the ballot box. People do take time to register their thoughts on Rayleigh and in the most part they are very positive. Once again this is a good place to live and mindless acts of violence like this should be seen for what they are and not made out to be an example of falling standards in our community.
I agree, Rayleigh has many positives. The High Street has come on a lot since I was a child living in Hullbridge. It's maintained nicely now. Also we have our own sports center recently open. As Mark says, use your ballot paper as your voice initially. If you then feel there is something your aren't happy about also take the time to enter into correspondence with the relevant body of authority to air your views
Vikzter, Rochford says...
4:56pm Fri 25 May 07
tina, basildon says...
4:59pm Fri 25 May 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
5:00pm Fri 25 May 07
The Vicar, says...
5:01pm Fri 25 May 07
PNUTTTTTTT wrote:I didn't realise Snoop Doggy Dogg lived in Rayleigh!
all da people talking about chavs and kids! it probably was full grown men, and people talking about the ghetto its rayleigh! if you dont like it and its that bad move away, dont fink everyone cares to be honest! you cant give someone an ASBO for standing in the ihgh street lol! just listen to urselves talking MUPPETS!
Big Bob Joylove, Essex says...
5:02pm Fri 25 May 07
rayleigh born and bred, ray says...
5:04pm Fri 25 May 07
tina wrote:Tina sorry it was not you that blamed the parents my error there.
and whereabouts in my comment did i say that i blamed the parents
tina, basildon says...
5:07pm Fri 25 May 07
Basildon Bob, Basildon says...
5:08pm Fri 25 May 07
Much quieter.
Mr Man, Benfleet says...
5:10pm Fri 25 May 07
Local, Rayleigh says...
5:14pm Fri 25 May 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
5:20pm Fri 25 May 07
Vikzter wrote:You are an asset on here, please come on here more often and comment other stories, you debate wonderfully. Anyway, this is a tragedy and I hope the young man in hospital recovers fully and isn't left with psychological scars as well as physical. This is more than likely to of been people from out of the area who have "cased" the scene for a while first. Also it doesn't matter where you live or how you are brought up, this was probable fuelled by drugs and nowadays anyone takes them, be them from a rich or poor family. I knew someone, she died last year bless her, very well to do, big house in Rochford as a child, well spoken and public school educated, she got in with the wrong crowd and became a herion addict, prostitute and crack addict. Proof that this can get into any walk of life. Rayleigh is no different to anywhere else really, good and bad in each community and unfortunately the bad seems to of prevailed today.
You didnt Tina it was someone else who was blamin parents!!!!
nicola, rayleigh says...
5:22pm Fri 25 May 07
Miss Samsung, Southend says...
5:24pm Fri 25 May 07
They could have killed a inocent person and they dont realise..
Some people are sick in the head..
My thoughts are with the young mans Family!!!
Hope they catch the sick people who done it...
I have an 19yr old daughter and im worried about her saftey now as she goes out clubin alot....
Southend is gettin more like essex and u would think people would want peace not war!!
tina, basildon says...
5:28pm Fri 25 May 07
Miss Samsung wrote:i thought southend was in essex or has it moved :)
I live in Southend and i think this is so sick what this person has done to everyone.. They could have killed a inocent person and they dont realise.. Some people are sick in the head.. My thoughts are with the young mans Family!!! Hope they catch the sick people who done it... I have an 19yr old daughter and im worried about her saftey now as she goes out clubin alot.... Southend is gettin more like essex and u would think people would want peace not war!!
Rayleigh girl 21, Rayleigh says...
5:59pm Fri 25 May 07
I hope the boy who has been injured recovers soon! and well done for being so brave!
Maxine Hicks, Rayleigh says...
6:03pm Fri 25 May 07
Li5a, Southend says...
6:14pm Fri 25 May 07
Neil Fitzgerald, Southampton says...
6:18pm Fri 25 May 07
I'm reluctant to make political points so close after an incident.
I think we all need to take a step back for a moment and remember that someone bravely stood up to criminals and risked their live for another.
As for childrens upbringing, it is a recorded government fact that the children from married couples who are in the bottom 20% of the social classes in the UK eg poor are LESS likely to commit a crime than children who come from unmarried/divorced couples.
We have got to get a grip on gun, knife and drug crimes.
And I still maintain that Rayleigh is losing it's soul and going downhill.
Lynn, Rayleigh says...
6:42pm Fri 25 May 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
6:44pm Fri 25 May 07
Scouse, Rayleigh says...
6:44pm Fri 25 May 07
Hannah wrote:"i have lived in rayleigh all my 22 years apart from 6 months last year, when i lived in hackney & i never saw anything like that!"..............
i have lived in rayleigh all my 22 years apart from 6 months last year, when i lived in hackney & i never saw anything like that! never had any trouble. what does that tell u about the area?? i look forward to moving away from here next year!
Are you having a laugh.....I guess you stayed in doors for that period. Let me tell you that it is from there and many other places that the scum descend from. I blame the government for their idea that intergrating will actually ever work.
Scouse, says...
6:47pm Fri 25 May 07
john wrote:Well said and spot on.
Armed robberies can occur in the nicest of places, as quiet locations are an easier target than big city centres - this does not mean the area they occur in is "going down hill" - the robbers were probably not even from this area. Best wishes to the injured man and his family.
Bored, says...
6:48pm Fri 25 May 07
Clare, Rayleigh says...
6:52pm Fri 25 May 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
7:04pm Fri 25 May 07
Scouse, Rayleigh says...
7:37pm Fri 25 May 07
taxi driver wrote:Go on then...Spill the taxi grapevine beans.........
There has been a lot more happened in rayleigh that has not hit the papers
Deb, Southend says...
7:44pm Fri 25 May 07
Clare, Rayleigh says...
7:52pm Fri 25 May 07
Maree, says...
8:25pm Fri 25 May 07
Bored wrote:There is. In Australia, the security people are highly trained and carry pistols. Their van is randomly followed by a chase car with special weapons officers. If they are walking down a high street, one carries the cash, the other one walks a distance behind providing cover. How many armed robberies of vans do you think there are there?
There has got to be a better, safer way for security guards to collect money. It often amazes me when I see one guard walking through a supermarket to the back of a store carrying his box. So easy for this one guy to be robbed, it's ridiculous!.
Anon, Basildon says...
8:55pm Fri 25 May 07
Deb wrote:I wouldnt say it was 'Hollywood' more like the Bronx!!!
I think the reason why so many people are commenting on this dispicable crime is because it is all so Hollywood having a person shot on your doorstep. It is totally shocking and as a mother of 3 girls the youngest being only 7 it scares the hell out of me living in such a lawless society. If the people are caught which is probably unlikely they will only get a slap on the wrists, I wish the young man and his family the best of luck and I am sure the security guard is extremely grateful
Im sure everyone local would rather this hadnt happened
rob, rayleigh says...
9:33pm Fri 25 May 07
i'm 31 years old and have three young daughters i think really is a good place to live, yes i agree it has changed slightly for the worse but there are certainly worse areas around, in perspective i would be more worried if this was a a gang fight or two lads fighting and they were carrying guns, this was carried out by people outside the area. i to use the cash point there and must say i've been standing there and watched the van pull up and thought that it would be a very easy heist to pull (not that i'm a robber, before anyone starts)
thoughts out to the family, i;m happy the guy will pull through but maybe it is time to that the community of rayleigh start to voice there opinions quickly and strongly rather than letting the dust settle and then trying.
katy, Rayleigh says...
9:38pm Fri 25 May 07
This is too close to home now, this says alot about the society in which we live in!! When will something be done about it !!!!!!!??????? we will just live in fear all the time by the looks of it, they just get a slap on the wrist for it!!!
Ian, Leigh says...
9:59pm Fri 25 May 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
10:09pm Fri 25 May 07
Debbie, Nearby says...
10:12pm Fri 25 May 07
Ex-Rayleigh Girl, Ardleigh, Colchester, Essex. says...
10:43pm Fri 25 May 07
Tony, Rayleigh says...
7:58am Sat 26 May 07
Vikzter, Rochford says...
10:17am Sat 26 May 07
Lisa Jensen wrote:Thank you!! I've never commented on anything here before but as it was so close to home I felt the need to say something!! I think what people are trying to say is not how Rayleigh has gone 'down hill' but how the whole community has! Like I said yesterday my best mate got stabbed in Southend a few years back, also there was a body found down the sea front by 2 school kids - It's happening everywhere now-a-days but it doesn't always get out in the paper or on the tele, my mates stabbing got put in the paper but because it was a completely different situation and he wasn't trying to save someone he just got attacked it wasn't really a 'big' story! No one is to blame, apart from the government who don't give enough punishment! It doesn't matter how we are brought up when you get to a certain age you know how to use your mind, you should know whats right and whats not, you can make your own decisions and do what you want when you want because when you get to 16(i think, correct me if I am wrong)it's out of the parents hands!!
Vikzter wrote: You didnt Tina it was someone else who was blamin parents!!!!You are an asset on here, please come on here more often and comment other stories, you debate wonderfully. Anyway, this is a tragedy and I hope the young man in hospital recovers fully and isn\'t left with psychological scars as well as physical. This is more than likely to of been people from out of the area who have \"cased\" the scene for a while first. Also it doesn\'t matter where you live or how you are brought up, this was probable fuelled by drugs and nowadays anyone takes them, be them from a rich or poor family. I knew someone, she died last year bless her, very well to do, big house in Rochford as a child, well spoken and public school educated, she got in with the wrong crowd and became a herion addict, prostitute and crack addict. Proof that this can get into any walk of life. Rayleigh is no different to anywhere else really, good and bad in each community and unfortunately the bad seems to of prevailed today.
Brian, Southend says...
12:24pm Sat 26 May 07
Jim, rayleigh says...
12:54pm Sat 26 May 07
jim, rayleigh says...
12:54pm Sat 26 May 07
nat, fareham says...
1:00pm Sat 26 May 07
Malcolm Benton, Rayleigh says...
1:30pm Sat 26 May 07
Chris Black, Rayleigh says...
2:20pm Sat 26 May 07
Shot have-a-go raid hero improving
A have-a-go hero who was shot after intervening in an armed robbery has regained consciousness, police said.
Rail commuter Adam Mapleson went to the aid of a female security guard at Rayleigh, Essex, at 7.15am on Friday.
Brian, Southend says...
2:47pm Sat 26 May 07
Good Luck Adam
Mark, says...
2:50pm Sat 26 May 07
I wish Mr Mapleson a full & speedy recovery & wish to offer my thoughts & prayer for both him & his family at this time.
As regards the Police response, I suppose the officers based at Rayleigh (assuming it is still a 24hr station) were not the ones called out, & they had to come from a cental base, maybe Southend or Basildon? Certainly seesm to me that there is a need for more beat bobbies everywhere, but I am aware that commnsense plays no part in the planning of such things.
Let us hope that unlike so many other criminals, those responsible for this crime are caught, convicted & actually sentenced to a lengthy prison term. However, I will not hold my breath.
louise, rayleigh says...
3:03pm Sat 26 May 07
evilc, essex says...
4:22pm Sat 26 May 07
This Country is now an incubation area for scumbags encouraged by New Labour and there Human Rights Act, reduction by half of prison sentences and there continual blarney about being tough on crime.
Still if and when these scum are caught they can expect life which really means a half sentence freedom in prison to do what they want probably be educated with a degree etc etc.
The revolution is coming!!
tina, basildon says...
4:39pm Sat 26 May 07
Chris Black wrote:that is great news we all wish him lots of love x
Good News: I've just seen this on the Southern Daily Echo website, put on there 11 minutes ago: Shot have-a-go raid hero improvingA have-a-go hero who was shot after intervening in an armed robbery has regained consciousness, police said. Rail commuter Adam Mapleson went to the aid of a female security guard at Rayleigh, Essex, at 7.15am on Friday.
musings, leigh says...
5:32pm Sat 26 May 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
5:55pm Sat 26 May 07
Dyson Family, Northampton says...
6:02pm Sat 26 May 07
freddie, essex says...
7:22pm Sat 26 May 07
Sue, Nr Rayleigh says...
7:34pm Sat 26 May 07
Wishing him all the very best, and will continue to keep him and his family in my thoughts and prayers x
Also, as mentioned before, well done to the man who was so quick to administer first-aid.
Get well soon Adam x
tina, basildon says...
7:49pm Sat 26 May 07
freddie wrote:it is only done because some comments are made quite a way down the line and other people might not know what you are talking about, by the way i have got a cat called freddie :)
I read comments on here daily, but never comment, could people please not cut and paste previous postings, we are all aware of what people have stated, and most people dont appear to know how to do it correctly..
Steve, Shoebury says...
8:52pm Sat 26 May 07
For those people who have questioned his actions, would you not want someone like Adam there if, god forbid, you were being robbed? Natural protective instinct obviously kicked in and he saw a female being robbed. He was not to know this moron was armed.
Secondly, without going into the way police officers are despatched following a call from the public, dont moan about the time it took them to arrive at the scene. From the time of the call to the officers receiving details of the incident could be a couple of minutes. Officers may not have been in at Rayleigh and would have had to travel from their current location, which i have no doubt they did as quickly and as safely as they could.
freddie, essex says...
9:15pm Sat 26 May 07
I fully understand,, but long paste outs are annoying.
I also wish Adam all the best..bold
tina, basildon says...
9:37pm Sat 26 May 07
freddie wrote:actually freddie my cat is the best, do you have whiskers and a long tail aswell then :)
Tina,, I hope your pet is as nice as me with a name like mine he must be.. I fully understand,, but long paste outs are annoying. I also wish Adam all the best..bold
Andrew, oxford says...
10:38pm Sat 26 May 07
You make me proud to be British.
GET WELL SOON
Steve, Zambia says...
5:12am Sun 27 May 07
We need more people like you, prepared to have a go. Too many people nowadays look the other way, and look what a state the country's now in!
I wish you a speedy recovery and I hope they catch the cowardly criminals who did this.
gary, basildon says...
9:38am Sun 27 May 07
evilc, essex says...
9:46am Sun 27 May 07
What this young man did is simply
FANTASTIC and heroic I for one would like to send money to him as he is going to need every penny now during his recovery.
Steve, Shoebury says...
11:25am Sun 27 May 07
claire, Rayleigh says...
5:20pm Sun 27 May 07
Ian wrote:Ian what a marvellous idea. I think you should suggest this to Gordon Brown. Would there be so much crime today if the punishment fitted the crime and capital punishment hadn't been abolished?
I wish this young chap a speedy recovery I was shocked to hear of the incident as i normally drive to work past the station @ the time this robbery took place,I agree with other's comment on worrying about our children, what a society we live in, Too many do gooders in England, anyone caught with firearms or weapons intent to injure or kill should be transported straght to RAF Brize Norton and put on the next plane to Iraq where these cowards can fight to their hearts desire and send equal numbers of our brave troops home!
Brian, says...
6:28pm Sun 27 May 07
Why, when this incident happened at 0730 am approx did it not make fridays 'Evening' Echo
hairdresser girl, wickford says...
6:54pm Sun 27 May 07
Mike, Rayleigh says...
9:50pm Sun 27 May 07
Francis Grubb, Westcliff says...
11:49pm Sun 27 May 07
Hope the brave lad recovers and gets back to normal soon.
Frank
Francis Grubb, Westcliff says...
12:07am Mon 28 May 07
claire wrote:Claire, I think that there mightn't be so much violent crime as there is today if we'd had capital punishment.
Ian wrote: I wish this young chap a speedy recovery I was shocked to hear of the incident as i normally drive to work past the station @ the time this robbery took place,I agree with other\'s comment on worrying about our children, what a society we live in, Too many do gooders in England, anyone caught with firearms or weapons intent to injure or kill should be transported straght to RAF Brize Norton and put on the next plane to Iraq where these cowards can fight to their hearts desire and send equal numbers of our brave troops home!Ian what a marvellous idea. I think you should suggest this to Gordon Brown. Would there be so much crime today if the punishment fitted the crime and capital punishment hadn\'t been abolished?
That said, whilst some (and only some) would be put off committing murder or other such evil crimes, the fact that mistakes would be made (as whenever human beings are involved) which would result in innocent people being executed.This says to me that the death penalty is unworkable. Would I be content to see my father or son convicted & hung only to see someone discover 2 years after that the evidence produced for the trial by the latest technology was flawed and that they were after all innocent? No, not for my relative or any other.
Frank
Waco, says...
4:49am Mon 28 May 07
evilc, essex says...
8:30am Mon 28 May 07
You cowardly dumb prat that young man had more guts that you have in your toenail!!
Your name says it all you probably are a member of the Waco sec t also!!
EASTWOOD, eastwood says...
9:19am Mon 28 May 07
Doughnut, Benfleet says...
10:23am Mon 28 May 07
Q. Should ATM Machines be scattered around in public places, putting innocent people at risk ?
John, Kent says...
1:03pm Mon 28 May 07
Gallop, Essex says...
1:27pm Mon 28 May 07
- Ermmmm where would you suggest putting cash machines if not in public places? Sort of defeats the point if they are hidden in secret locations.
paddyman, says...
3:24pm Mon 28 May 07
Waco wrote:totally agree with you waco, also the police would as well,they dont like people putting there lives at risk, all theses people wanted was the money let them take it the police would have caught these scumbags sooner or later, with out this poor guy being shot
Why would you risk your life for someones else money.security guards get paid for this risk they know that there is a high risk of being robbed.would the security company pay you wifes rent bills your wages etc etc i think not.bloody idiot
tina, basildon says...
3:26pm Mon 28 May 07
Sue, says...
3:31pm Mon 28 May 07
tina wrote:They shouldn't be very hard to identify, anyway.
the thing that makes me laugh is that they wouldnt be able to use the money anyway as the box's now have a dye it them, that goes off when you open it "gutted" ha ha
paddyman, home says...
3:55pm Mon 28 May 07
paddyman wrote:why do you post under my name you fool.
Waco wrote: Why would you risk your life for someones else money.security guards get paid for this risk they know that there is a high risk of being robbed.would the security company pay you wifes rent bills your wages etc etc i think not.bloody idiottotally agree with you waco, also the police would as well,they dont like people putting there lives at risk, all theses people wanted was the money let them take it the police would have caught these scumbags sooner or later, with out this poor guy being shot
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
5:20pm Mon 28 May 07
Waco wrote:I dont think he was trying to stop I think he was trying to help the woman. His actions were brave.
Why would you risk your life for someones else money.security guards get paid for this risk they know that there is a high risk of being robbed.would the security company pay you wifes rent bills your wages etc etc i think not.bloody idiot
Doughnut, Benfleet says...
5:31pm Mon 28 May 07
Doughnut, Benfleet says...
5:34pm Mon 28 May 07
tina, basildon says...
9:05pm Mon 28 May 07
Gathers, Essex says...
9:49pm Mon 28 May 07
Gathers, Essex says...
10:00pm Mon 28 May 07
Graham wrote:Graham do you relly think this is the type of incident to be having a go at the police, surely you could of mentioned the poor guy that was shot, not using the stort to have ca pop at the police, i think this shows the police have more important work to do that looking for a stolen bike don't you
Let hope they are not relying on the CCTV at Rayleigh station, as the images are of such poor quality. BTP could not use the images to find out who stole my bike in November lasted year. and they put it in wrighting.
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
10:26pm Mon 28 May 07
tina, basildon says...
10:33pm Mon 28 May 07
matt, young boy in rayleigh says...
12:00am Tue 29 May 07
RolanTheRat, says...
3:37am Tue 29 May 07
Romford Mark, says...
11:27am Tue 29 May 07
As regards the Police response, I suppose the officers based at Rayleigh (assuming it is still a 24hr station) were not the ones called out, & they had to come from a cental base, maybe Southend or Basildon? Certainly seesm to me that there is a need for more beat bobbies everywhere, but I am aware that commnsense plays no part in the planning of such things.
I think you'll find that Rayleigh Police Station is the main firearms response base in South Essex. So the questioin still has to be asked aas to why it took the Police 20 mins to arrive and secure the area?
Maree, says...
12:00pm Tue 29 May 07
Terri + sophie, rayleigh says...
3:41pm Tue 29 May 07
Ex-rayleigh resident, Hertfordshire says...
3:56pm Tue 29 May 07
Gathers, essex says...
9:21am Wed 30 May 07
Emma, Southend says...
1:10pm Wed 30 May 07
paul wrote:I can't beleive that in 2007, people are still this small minded.
it was bound to be blacks or eastern europeans.rayleigh will end up looking like westcliff eventually
No actually, I can believe it, i'm just appalled by it
Tim Cullen, Laurel, MD, USA says...
1:46pm Wed 30 May 07
Paul, Paris says...
2:13pm Wed 30 May 07
musings, Leigh. says...
4:00pm Wed 30 May 07
Terri + sophie wrote:Say again??? Are you Aboriginal?
We hope this boi makes a full recovery quick and that the security guard is very grateful for what he done and that she is not in the persision that he is in now get well soon adam bubi ****
Scouse, says...
5:09pm Wed 30 May 07
Emma wrote:I'm appalled to hear that you're appalled. Go and live near some of them and then we'll see......Well said Paul
paul wrote: it was bound to be blacks or eastern europeans.rayleigh will end up looking like westcliff eventuallyI can\'t beleive that in 2007, people are still this small minded. No actually, I can believe it, i\'m just appalled by it
musings., L-o-s says...
5:35pm Wed 30 May 07
My great uncle took a bullet in the chest but died in Belgium some 90 years ago. To us he was probably a hero, he was 19 years old. He and his family received nothing but a thank you like all the others.
Francis Grubb, Westcliff says...
10:44pm Wed 30 May 07
Scouse wrote:I live in the middle of Westcliff so I do live near some of "them". In fact I live near rather a lot of "them". And the problem with that is...?
Emma wrote:I'm appalled to hear that you're appalled. Go and live near some of them and then we'll see......Well said Paulpaul wrote: it was bound to be blacks or eastern europeans.rayleigh will end up looking like westcliff eventuallyI can\'t beleive that in 2007, people are still this small minded. No actually, I can believe it, i\'m just appalled by it
Truth is, there is no more of a gun problem with the local black or East European communities than with the existing English, Scottish, Chinese, Portuguese, Jewish or Italian communities here.
Sorry to blow a hole in somebody's small-minded delusion.
Frank
boris, hullbridge says...
3:22pm Thu 31 May 07
michell, colchester says...
7:54pm Thu 31 May 07
i hope u geta good reward for doing this
get well soon!!!
musings, LEIGH says...
2:50pm Fri 1 Jun 07
Chris Black, Rayleigh says...
8:58pm Fri 1 Jun 07
musings wrote:The limp is a bit of a clue, though, isn't it?
Yeah brilliant! One suspect is Shane Richie , the other my dentist after another exotic holiday thanks to the dosh he screws from me every six months for shoddy work done. More pony photo-fits please Mr Police artist. Nothing like a good laugh on a Friday!
It also looks like these guys are fairly local amd not Boris' "Asians from London" or Paul's "Blacks or Eastern Europeans."
At least that narrows things down a little bit.
These people were willing to carry out an armed robbery on a station forecourt crowded with commuters in the rush hour - and to open fire. It doesn't get much more dangerous than that, and the public should give the police all the help and moral support we can, not criticise them unnecessarily.
Incidentally, if you do a Google search you will see that Adam's actions have made him a very popular guy with U.S. gamesplayers. They are deeply impressed.
tina, basildon says...
5:15pm Sat 2 Jun 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
9:51pm Sat 2 Jun 07
tina, basildon says...
10:06pm Sat 2 Jun 07
Lisa Jensen, says...
10:32pm Sat 2 Jun 07
The Colonel, hockley says...
11:12am Mon 4 Jun 07
Lisa Jensen wrote:I think you'll find the earlier arrest and release on police bail had nothing to do with the actual incident, but probably someone trying to be funny at the Police's expense.
Hold up, been on hols for a week, an earlier post says btp have arrested someone and now you are saying there has been a reconstruction, so what is the right one then?
Gathers, Essex says...
2:05pm Tue 5 Jun 07
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
6:24pm Tue 5 Jun 07
Reconstruction was on main side where it happened by the cash machine. And to you gathers here here there is no point blaming anyone except the scum that did this to Adam, I am glad Adam is home and hopefully is feeling better.
Dorothy Lingwood, Rayleigh says...
9:34am Wed 6 Jun 07
Beanie, Southend says...
12:45pm Wed 6 Jun 07
stu, essex says...
2:05pm Wed 6 Jun 07
rayleigh and southend has no firearms officers or AFO, they are all based at laindon road policing unit,plus we have plain cars as armed response vehicles that patrol the area from HQ firearms support unit fsu
anonymous, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
11:27pm Wed 13 Jun 07
Adam reacted to a situation of which he had seconds to assess Adam obviously knows right from wrong, good from bad! he knew in those seconds wot had taken place and reacted in a heroic manner!
Terri & sophie in response to your message:- "I should be gratefull for Adams actions" Yes I am proud of his good nature and so should every decent human being! I'm not going to go into what traning I receive or wether or not I am paid danger money! if your interested then there is a position open, as there is no way I would ever be able to carry out those duties again! I am saddened by some of the petty minded comments made on this site, and hope that should Adam read them he takes comfort in what the majority think as he truely is a courageous man!
Should the Men that did this ever read this ..... Then I want you too know that I saw your face that day and I hope to see it again behind bars!!!! A family nearly had to bury their son, brother, grandchild, and for what... A nice Holiday?, new car? How you sleeping at night!?!
God Bless Adam x
bob, southend says...
9:03am Tue 19 Jun 07
Bored, says...
9:35am Tue 19 Jun 07
Mushtak Ahmed, says...
1:50pm Tue 19 Jun 07
tina, basildon says...
1:55pm Tue 19 Jun 07
The Colonel, Hockley says...
2:02pm Tue 19 Jun 07
Mushtak Ahmed wrote:Silly boy. This is a serious thread don't you know.
I\\\'ve got some seriously stained underpants if thats any help.
tina, basildon says...
7:27am Wed 20 Jun 07
Dani, w-o-s says...
9:05am Mon 25 Jun 07
tina, basildon says...
9:46am Mon 25 Jun 07
KELLY, LEIGH says...
1:41pm Mon 25 Jun 07
MR HAPPY, GREAT WAKERING says...
5:04pm Mon 25 Jun 07
Glad he is on the road to recovery, lets hope the SCUM who committed this act are on the road to hell!
taxi driver, rayleigh says...
6:59pm Mon 25 Jun 07
paul, essex says...
8:52pm Wed 25 Jul 07
Sarah wrote:This shop is used by law abiding sports man & woman, not scum bag crims. Your comment is unjust & unfair & shows how ill informed you must be.
I hope that the man is ok, it is so scary to think of these things happening in our area. Hope Southend Hospital are looking after the man well, really hope he can get through this. Is it a conincidence that there is an air gun shop really close to there? Guns are guns... that shop shouldnt be there.
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9:44am Fri 25 May 07