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Traveller feud: Police with Tasers arrest five

12:34pm Tuesday 4th March 2008

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FIVE people were arrested after a man and a woman were injured in two separate attacks thought to be connected to a traveller feud.

A woman, in her forties, was assaulted while visiting the Oak Lane site in Crays Hill from the Smithy Fen camp in Cottenham, Cambridgeshire.

The attack happened at about 5pm on Sunday when the woman was at the site for what is believed to be a wedding or christening.

Later that night, a man in his forties from the Oak Lane site in Crays Hill was taken to Basildon Hospital after being cut in the chest with what is believed to be a broken bottle.

He was injured after fighting broke out in the Duke of York pub, in Southend Road, Billericay, at 10.25pm.

Landlord John Harris said: "There was a punch-up and the people involved were escorted out. If someone was cut it must have been outside. Police are now looking at our CCTV."

Earlier in the day, firefighters had to break into a chalet on the Oak Lane site at 2.38pm after reports people were inside as flames from nearby burning rubbish spread.

The fire is being treated as arson, but police do not believe it is connected to the assaults.

Essex Police spokeswoman Donna Veasey said: "We are investigating two allegations of assault.

"The first alleged incident occurred at the Oak Lane traveller site at 5pm, when the victim was a woman, believed to be in her forties, from Cambridge.

"The second is believed to have occurred in the Duke of York.

"A man in his forties was wounded in the chest."

Police confirmed the rubbish fire is being treated as deliberate, but there is nothing to suggest it was linked to the later attacks.

Christine Connor, spokeswoman for Essex Fire and Rescue, said: "We had reports of a shed alight, then a caravan, then we were told people were inside. Firefighters forced entry, but it was empty.

"People living on the site said they would board it up."

Most of the arrests were made in the early hours of yesterday morning, when police armed with Taser guns entered the site.

l A 46-year-old man and 19-year-old man were arrested on suspicion of grevous bodily harm.

A 37-year-old man and two women, aged 39 and 26 were arrested on suspicion of actual bodily hamr. All gave Billericay addresses.


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Camperman, Essex says...
12:49pm Tue 4 Mar 08

The Police now have Taser's without any wires. Someone stole the wires and sold them as scrap no doubt.

budgie, pitsea exile says...
1:08pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Why did the fire fighters intervene? Could have let the fire spread a bit and do us all a favour. These Irish travellers are the most god awful people aren't they.

Goran, nr Dole Farm says...
1:57pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Dear James from waaaay across the pond.

Perhaps knife fights, fueds involving arson (by travellers against travellers) and flouting the law of the land. Well perhaps they account for this suggested diminished life expectancy.
Perhaps if they obeyed the laws like everyone else and didn't leave rubbish around (for other travellers to set alight) well perhaps they'd live longer eh?

See any connection there sport?

L87Nor, Billericay says...
4:59pm Tue 4 Mar 08

1, I am actually suprised that the police turned up to this fued, knowing it was travellers.
2, Can people not see that the travellers are causing so much trouble what with the drugs, violent attacks, driving under the influence of drink and drugs, driving under age and intimidating people in the local community.
We need to think about OUR human rights and not the travellers' and as in Ireland they should not be able to build on Greenbelt land.
They do not pay tax, insurance, electric bills, gas bills.
Why should all the honest tax payers pay for the travellers when clearly they are getting away with murder, literally.

Bob Hopeless, Bas says...
6:34pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Bloody pikey scumbags, for how much longer will we put up with these creatures?

Vernon, Basildon says...
6:48pm Tue 4 Mar 08

James, do you want your humble pie hot or cold?

paul, rayleigh says...
8:14pm Tue 4 Mar 08

these lowlife scum sell cocaine in the travellers joy pub all weekend or should i say intimidate people into buying it they have been doing this for at least 3 yrs now but the public are too scared to say anything

Bozo, Westcliff says...
8:56pm Tue 4 Mar 08

paul wrote:
these lowlife scum sell cocaine in the travellers joy pub all weekend or should i say intimidate people into buying it they have been doing this for at least 3 yrs now but the public are too scared to say anything
whats the point, this goes on in every pub doesnt it?

paul, rayleigh says...
9:03pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Bozo wrote:
paul wrote: these lowlife scum sell cocaine in the travellers joy pub all weekend or should i say intimidate people into buying it they have been doing this for at least 3 yrs now but the public are too scared to say anything
whats the point, this goes on in every pub doesnt it?
not forcing people to buy it no and its only the police that dont no that drugs have been on dale farm since day 1 but to a lot bigger scale now dirty filthy scum

Bozo, Westcliff says...
9:13pm Tue 4 Mar 08

paul wrote:
Bozo wrote:
paul wrote: these lowlife scum sell cocaine in the travellers joy pub all weekend or should i say intimidate people into buying it they have been doing this for at least 3 yrs now but the public are too scared to say anything
whats the point, this goes on in every pub doesnt it?
not forcing people to buy it no and its only the police that dont no that drugs have been on dale farm since day 1 but to a lot bigger scale now dirty filthy scum
I didnt know, but it makes sense as to how they afford other homes, lorries and those top of the range trailers. You dont get that by doing a few dodgy drives...

Kim Gandy, Rayleigh says...
11:05pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Notice how there are fewer whining lefties around these days.

Perhaps they're now waking up to sewage in their gardens or finding they've got a new driveway they didn't ask for. Or worse still, judging by recent headlines. I shouldn't like to speculate.

Or perhaps the Echo has now presented the public and the police with so much evidence that even the do gooders have had to take stock of what's going on.

Most of us here woke up and smelled the coffee (or should I say, sewage) years ago.

Or perhaps these people now realise they are on a hiding to nothing and their leftwing liberal mewlings and pukings are now so pathetic that they are drowned out the minute they open their mouths.

Welcome to reality. Not nice is it?

midnight warrier, wickford says...
11:33pm Tue 4 Mar 08

Not sure if there is any connection with the events at Dale Farm but there was a big kick off today in Hovefields. Men wielding baseball bats and women and children screaming, just another li vely day living with this poor hard doneby ethnic minority. I think not! hurry up and see the reality James.

Kim Gandy, Rayleigh says...
11:52pm Tue 4 Mar 08

midnight warrier wrote:
Not sure if there is any connection with the events at Dale Farm but there was a big kick off today in Hovefields. Men wielding baseball bats and women and children screaming, just another li vely day living with this poor hard doneby ethnic minority. I think not! hurry up and see the reality James.
James is conspicuous by his absence today. I wonder why. Perhaps he is consuming a large slice of Vernon's humble pie - with gravy and all the trimmings, or perhaps he's mediating in another outbreak of violence.

As for screaming children - they are usually very evident on any documentary about travellers, thrust, as they are, into the forefront of any activity with the intention of showing how wicked and evil the bailiffs are and how hard done by they are by those nasty men from the council.

It is noticeable how women and children are always in the front line of any press photos or TV footage. Hmmm... wonder why that is as well.

Could be to do with the fact that the men are too busy plying their various illegal trades or perhaps they don't want us to see the ugly face of Dale Farm/Hovefields/wher
e-ever

Sooner or later they will do themselves a huge disservice that even this stupid, witless, moronic government can't ignore.

But it will be too late by then.

It always is too late. This country is resounding with the loud clang of stable doors.

You don't have to look that far back in recent history to see stable doors wide open and horses that have long since bolted.

Getting the picture yet James? In order to do that you need to look at the much bigger picture of this country over the last 11 years since this scumsucking, warmongering, moneygrubbing and wholly despicable and corrupt government came to power.

the undertaker, crays hill says...
6:46am Wed 5 Mar 08

Getting the picture yet James? In order to do that you need to look at the much bigger picture of this country over the last 11 years since this scumsucking, warmongering, moneygrubbing and wholly despicable and corrupt government came to power.

The nail has been hit firmly on the head there.
I would only add its a lib,lab,con, pact.

Vernon, Basildon says...
7:13am Wed 5 Mar 08

Kim Gandy wrote:
midnight warrier wrote: Not sure if there is any connection with the events at Dale Farm but there was a big kick off today in Hovefields. Men wielding baseball bats and women and children screaming, just another li vely day living with this poor hard doneby ethnic minority. I think not! hurry up and see the reality James.
James is conspicuous by his absence today. I wonder why. Perhaps he is consuming a large slice of Vernon's humble pie - with gravy and all the trimmings, or perhaps he's mediating in another outbreak of violence. As for screaming children - they are usually very evident on any documentary about travellers, thrust, as they are, into the forefront of any activity with the intention of showing how wicked and evil the bailiffs are and how hard done by they are by those nasty men from the council. It is noticeable how women and children are always in the front line of any press photos or TV footage. Hmmm... wonder why that is as well. Could be to do with the fact that the men are too busy plying their various illegal trades or perhaps they don't want us to see the ugly face of Dale Farm/Hovefields/wher e-ever Sooner or later they will do themselves a huge disservice that even this stupid, witless, moronic government can't ignore. But it will be too late by then. It always is too late. This country is resounding with the loud clang of stable doors. You don't have to look that far back in recent history to see stable doors wide open and horses that have long since bolted. Getting the picture yet James? In order to do that you need to look at the much bigger picture of this country over the last 11 years since this scumsucking, warmongering, moneygrubbing and wholly despicable and corrupt government came to power.
I often go onto Dale Farm as part of my job, and it amazes me how many young school age kids are around when they should be at school.As we all know, whenever evictions are talked about, the first line of defence from travellers is that their kids need to go to school!
Would be interesting to know how many kids actually attend that school.

the undertaker, crays hill says...
8:16am Wed 5 Mar 08

On a single day last year there were supposed to be about 76 in attendance,But there were only two in attendance....!
It was at one time one of the best schools for the children to attend but since the influx of the so called irish travellers it has become the worst.

the undertaker, crays hill says...
8:18am Wed 5 Mar 08

the undertaker wrote:
On a single day last year there were supposed to be about 76 in attendance,But there were only two in attendance....! It was at one time one of the best schools for the children to attend but since the influx of the so called irish travellers it has become the worst.
I might add that kim gandy will know the exact figures, as i believe she was involved with it in some capacity.

wtf?, says...
12:54pm Wed 5 Mar 08

Good grief there's a lot of bitter and twisted people on here isn't there.

Careful you don't get an ulcer, people - all that hatred and unhappiness can't be good for you.

watatwat, Billericay says...
2:20pm Wed 5 Mar 08

wtf? wrote:
Good grief there's a lot of bitter and twisted people on here isn't there. Careful you don't get an ulcer, people - all that hatred and unhappiness can't be good for you.
yes your'e quite right, lets all bury our heads in the sand and take it right up the arris!

Bas in my heart, London says...
3:49pm Wed 5 Mar 08

Having been a Publican now for fifteen years. The one thing i find most baffling is why publicans in the areas of known traveller activity still continue to serve them. All of us inmy area have an agreement if they start to show up we get rid off them immedeatly and then phone everyone else in the areato let them know they are on the prowl therefore we have no problems. But a lot of people just see the money but the short term rise is always a followed by the long term effects that are just not worth it. Come on man have some b*lls and refuse to serve them.

wtf?, says...
4:26pm Wed 5 Mar 08

watatwat wrote:
wtf? wrote: Good grief there's a lot of bitter and twisted people on here isn't there. Careful you don't get an ulcer, people - all that hatred and unhappiness can't be good for you.
yes your'e quite right, lets all bury our heads in the sand and take it right up the arris!
What you do in your own time is your business, but I think you might want to be careful.

You could get sand in your eye for starters. That itches something rotten.

ShipShape, Basildonk says...
5:19pm Wed 5 Mar 08

Hows that song go? "And don't it make my brown eye blue..."

genghis, cambridge says...
4:04am Thu 6 Mar 08

I presume the way the site at crays hill is spoken about, all the travellers on there have exactly the same morals. Just like everyone on a council estate are carbon copies of each other.

I'm sure people near the site have a legitimate grievance with some residents who may or, for all I know, may not flout the law.

Unfortunately for those affected, some of the language used on here and used in wider society gives credence to travellers' claims that it is pure discrimination.

The more public spirited of you, and that includes failed prospective local councillors, should set up a proactive neighbourhood watch scheme and stop your bleating if you want something "done" about miscreants, wherever they come from, committing crimes where you live.

And if where you live there is a resoundingly loud clang of stable doors, you should ask yourself if you're a farmer, or anything else which lives on a farm.

Tony, says...
12:02pm Thu 6 Mar 08

genghis wrote:
I presume the way the site at crays hill is spoken about, all the travellers on there have exactly the same morals. Just like everyone on a council estate are carbon copies of each other. I'm sure people near the site have a legitimate grievance with some residents who may or, for all I know, may not flout the law. Unfortunately for those affected, some of the language used on here and used in wider society gives credence to travellers' claims that it is pure discrimination. The more public spirited of you, and that includes failed prospective local councillors, should set up a proactive neighbourhood watch scheme and stop your bleating if you want something "done" about miscreants, wherever they come from, committing crimes where you live. And if where you live there is a resoundingly loud clang of stable doors, you should ask yourself if you're a farmer, or anything else which lives on a farm.
Engage your brain and find out what you are talking about before you comment on other people. Given the current situation under nu-labour don't you think that people know that the travellers are committing crimes and have told the authorities but as usual nothing is done about it, what are you suggesting, taking the law into you own hands? Also could you explain your last paragraph please.

???, Wickford says...
2:24pm Thu 6 Mar 08

paul wrote:
these lowlife scum sell cocaine in the travellers joy pub all weekend or should i say intimidate people into buying it they have been doing this for at least 3 yrs now but the public are too scared to say anything
I'm not for the travellers or anything, in fact i think they should b*gger off too - but how do you "intimidate people into buying it " Paul!?!

James, Dale Farm says...
7:53pm Fri 7 Mar 08

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So should I assume, by these reports, that all settled people are violent criminals? Whats more, should I then conclude that since all settled people are violent criminals, that their families should be evicted from their homes so that they can plague some other district with their criminality? It's called collective punishment, and it is no more valid for the settled community than it is for the travelling community. Several of the travellers mentioned the brawl to me. They said they thought the participants were "fools" and "idiots." But guess what, the travellers don't have any more control over their neighbors than you do over yours. Dob't hold the travellers to a higher standard than you hold yourselves.

Scared, Right Here says...
1:51pm Sat 8 Mar 08

Genghis

One might need local knowledge to understand your last paragraph, although if you follow this & other threads regularly it should be obvious, but it was pure gold!! It is an opinion that is shared by many.

You gave me a much needed laugh today.


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