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MPs defend second home expense vote

12:00pm Monday 7th July 2008

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TWO south Essex MPs have defied calls to tighten up their much-criticised £24,000 second home expenses, despite growing public anger.

Basildon Labour MP Angela Smith and Southend West Tory MP David Amess voted to retain the budget to kit out second homes from the so-called "John Lewis list".

Mrs Smith, who is the Prime Minister's Parliamentary Private Secretary, defended her decision and insisted there would now be more control over MPs' expenses.

She said "There will be a spot check of 20 per cent of MPs and proper receipts will have to be provided, as with businesses when employees are paid expenses.

"I was unhappy with the other proposal before us of a daily allowance figure."

Mark Francois (Con, Rayleigh), Andrew Mackinlay (Lab, Thurrock) and John Baron (Con, Billericay) were not in the chamber for the vote.

Bob Spink, Ukip MP for Castle Point, voted in both lobbies - once to retain the cost allowance and the other to remove it.

He said: "This is the only way you can formally record an abstention - to show you were in the House at the time but were not going to vote.

"I have always argued MPs should not set their own salary levels and we should not be paid expenses. I think what I did was entirely consistent with this view."

James Duddridge (Con, Rochford and Southend East) was in the house, but did not vote.

He said: "I did not go into politics for the money and I think the whole issue should be dealt with by an independent tribunal.

"It is wrong we should be talking and voting on our own pay."

All the south Essex MPs have second homes in the capital.

The House of Commons vote also killed off moves to subject MPs' allowances to external audits following recent scandals.

But MPs approved a new programme to get bigger and better constituency offices at an additional cost to the taxpayer of up to £3.2 million every year.

The package retaining the so-called "John Lewis list", of household items and property improvements, was backed mainly by Labour MPs. But more than half of MPs - including Mr Brown and chancellor Alistair Darling - stayed away from the Commons for the contentious vote.

It marked the culmination of a "root and branch" review undertaken by a top Commons committee, after the scope for abuse of the £90million allowances regime was laid bare earlier this year.

However, Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "By clinging on to the plasma screen TVs and luxury kitchens allowed by the John Lewis list they have shown astonishing arrogance and disregard for people's concerns.

"When people come to vote at the next election they will remember how their local MP voted because it indicates how concerned they are about how taxpayers' money is spent and whether they understand the pressure faced by ordinary families."


Your Say YourEcho

Nigel, says...
12:08pm Mon 7 Jul 08

So sleaze is still endemic in the House of Commons.
It is time for a radical rethink of our whole Parliamentary system so that MPs are not in charge of their own remuneration and expenses.
The current system has brought Parliament into disrepute yet again.
I am appalled that so few MPs voted. It seems that like Brown, our leader who leads from several thousand miles behind the front line, few of them dared to stick their heads above the parapet.

John, Norwich says...
1:54pm Mon 7 Jul 08

MPs need accommodation in the capital, but not 2nd homes. An apartment block close to the Houses of Parliament should be acquired and MPs allocated furnished accommodation. The block would be serviced and guarded.

Pete, says...
2:00pm Mon 7 Jul 08

So where does Angela Smith MP live?

Outer Hebridies?

No - she lives in Pitsea! As Parliament no longer has late sittings or weekend sittings then why can't she get public transport like the rest of us when going home - rather than claim huge sums of public cash - pig with snout in trough like - claiming for a second home she doesnt need.

George, says...
4:00pm Mon 7 Jul 08

We will remember how our MPs voted when the next election comes round - and who troubles to help their constituents, and those who answer e-mails.

mike, leigh says...
4:32pm Mon 7 Jul 08

I think most reasonable people would be surprised that all the South Essex MPs have second homes in the capital. Many of us have to work long hours and evening meetings. I live in Chalkwell and work in Kensington and have to commute a minimum of 1 hr and 35 mins each way. It is tought but it is my choice. But to have a second home is ridiculous - especially as the public pay for it. The public is quite rightly losing respect for politicians of all parties.

Leighman, Leigh on Sea says...
5:22pm Mon 7 Jul 08

Could this story not have gotten a few words and photgraph from Mr Amess? Normally he can't wait to get his grinning image into the local rag..Perhaps this story hasn't got as much vote pulling power as visiting an old folks home, opening a fete and similar!

scottie, southend says...
7:29pm Mon 7 Jul 08

How many tubes of toothpaste will 24K buy for Amess and his perpetual sickening grin. Do they need a new kitchen every year,
#Its GREEED, GREED and more GREED

Robert FN, Canvey Island says...
11:18pm Tue 8 Jul 08

Bob Spink, Ukip MP for Castle Point is reported as saying: "I have always argued MPs should not set their own salary levels and we should not be paid expenses."

WHAT!!!!!!!

The man has claimed over 100,000 pounds in ACA alone (normally claimed for second homes) over the last 6 years - yet represents a constituency only 30 miles from Westminster!

Since he says he believes that MPs should not be paid expenses then perhaps he can explain why he has claimed so much taxpayers' money (our money) presemably for a second home?

Tony Winchester, Wos says...
6:57am Wed 9 Jul 08

You will only ever get exploited by the main three parties regardless of what they say ,
And has for the UKIP rubbish people are slowly realising they are nothing but a right arm Labour muppets designed to try to nick a few Nationalist votes from the only true democratic party known as the BNPthe party they all fear because truth is spoken and in doing so threaten to wreck there money making corridors of corruption we call Westminster.

Nick, Brackley says...
9:31am Wed 9 Jul 08

Tony in Winchester, totally agree.
Bring on the BNP, lets restore democracy, freedom of speech, and a fair and honest government.It's only a matter of time now.

PB, Rayleigh says...
11:06am Wed 9 Jul 08

I would love to earn £24k a year - let alone be able to spend it on my house every year! When are our politicians going to open their eyes and see how us the vast majority of their constituents live?

No longer the lemming, Rayleigh says...
12:42pm Wed 9 Jul 08

I have to agree with the comments regarding the BNP. The who rotten political system is desperate to keep them out of the corridors of power for this very reason. Lets face it why did over half a million votes get spoiled in the London elections?, was it to stop a stronger delegation of BNP candidates from winning?-yes they couldnt fool the public completely and so allowed one in, namely Richard Barnbrook, but I imagine they thought they could easily contain 1 BNP set of prying eyes..imagine if there had been two or three?. The whole system in this country has collapsed into what can only be described as gangsterism, and the criminals milking us so blatantly know that if the masses ever became mobilised and choose leaders from outside the establishment charade, then things would change for the better.

Hugo Syn, UK says...
12:53pm Wed 9 Jul 08

Bob "we should not be paid expenses" Spink (elected as a Tory, but now a UKIP MP) claimed £120,000 in ACA (the 2nd home allowance) between 2001 and 2007. During the same period he also snuffled up £60,740 in travel costs. All of this despite only living 34.5 miles from Westminster.

As for Angela Smith, she has managed to hoover up £101,908 in ACA over 6 years, and £18,601 in travel allowances. In total she has cost us the taxpayers £701,601 in expenses alone from 2001-2007.

Neither of these MPs have done anything unlawful and they have acted entirely within the rules laid down by Parliament. But when old people are dying of hypothermia because they can't afford their heating bills, the contempt that these tax trough snufflers have for the ordinary electorate is breathtaking. It's time for a radical change!

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