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LBS Enforcement clamped woman's car on Rayleigh site
8:00am Thursday 26th February 2009
A WOMAN was forced to pay more than £250 when a firm clamped her car while she collected medicine for her elderly mother.
Mandy Renaud, 50, left her mother, dementia sufferer Gwen, 85, with carers while she popped to a Rayleigh town centre chemist.
“I was totally flabbergasted. I had parked there for no more than five minutes and I was press-ganged into paying this obscene amount of money.”
Driver Mandy Renaud
LBS Enforcement clamped her car in the five minutes she left it near Curves gym, in Websters Way. She returned at 7.30pm on Friday to find a man fitting a wheel clamp.
She said: “I tried to explain I had to get medicines for my mother and had only left it for a few moments, but he just said I had to pay £125.
“He called his boss, who had been sitting in a pick-up truck nearby. He was about six feet tall and came over to say it would now be £245 plus VAT, as he had been called out.”
Mrs Renauld, of London Hill, Rayleigh, added: “Eventually, I had to pay up, because I knew the carers were leaving and mum couldn’t be left on her own. They even had the audacity to charge an extra £5 for paying by a credit card.”
Mrs Renauld ended up paying a total of £286. She accepted she had parked where she shouldn’t, but felt stopping briefly in the evening inconvenienced nobody.
She added: “I was totally flabbergasted. I had parked there for no more than five minutes and I was press-ganged into paying this obscene amount of money.”
When the Echo went to press, LBS had not responded to our request for a comment. However, in response to a recent, similar complaint, an LBS staff member, who would only give his name as Mr Stone, said: “Most people just take a chance.
“There’s enough warning signs in these car parks. People pay a lot of money for their parking areas, but drivers come along and park there day and night thinking it’s OK. It’s just pure ignorance.”
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Your Say YourEcho
Cockle, Southend says...
9:56am Thu 26 Feb 09
Put yourself on the other side; how would you feel if you were the owner of the gym who is constantly seeing your customers forced to park in the public car park because people think your forecourt is a useful parking space to 'just pop across the road for five minutes'. How would you then feel if your customers get fed up with this and take their custom to the gym down the road because it has easy parking?
There are always two sides.
She freely admits she parked on private land, one has to ask why when 50yds away there is a large public car park, which I very much doubt was full at 7:30pm on a Friday evening, which is FREE after 7pm and 60p an hour before.
So, did she park before 7pm and was trying to save 60p; if so, wrong move and also wasn't there for 'just five minutes'. Alternatively was she just being lazy by saving a walk of 50 odd yards to the public car park?
As I say, I'm not a fan of private clampers but they are only able to exist because people take the **** and think they have a right to abandon their vehicles wherever and whenever they want.
evo_lution, Westcliff says...
10:56am Thu 26 Feb 09
If no people parked where they should thee would be no need for clamping companies and this would never have happened.
The Voice of Reason, Southend says...
11:03am Thu 26 Feb 09
While LBS clearly think that they are providing a service, this particular company are nothing short of parasites and should hang their heads in shame !!!!
TVoR
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
11:38am Thu 26 Feb 09
APR, Thundersley says...
11:44am Thu 26 Feb 09
The fact that she was collecting a prescription, is totally irrelevant.
I wonder what she was driving ?
echoreader1, London says...
12:14pm Thu 26 Feb 09
this happened recently didn't it, in Leigh? some women parked in Grand car park and had a cheeky pint in Mariners before going back (apperently) to Grand for a gig? she got stung for about £500???
thing is, these companies have a business to run, but I would like to know how you arrive at a charge of £286 for parking illegally? there are no solicitors fees am i right? on this occasion the fella 'could' have shown compassion and said "yeah ok, i see you been to a chemist and have a receipt so on your way sweetheart" thats what I would do. fair enough, he probaly hears all the excuses under the sun, same as a train ticket inspector but surely, you can tell the difference between some ignorant idiot who cant be bothered to park and walk and someone who is trying to get in/out quick to get vital pills?! I bet if this women had been 21 with big t*ts it would be a different matter!
andy:), Southend says...
12:38pm Thu 26 Feb 09
I'd avise anyone who receives a 'fin'e or penalty charge from one of these companies not to pay it, they would then have to chase you through a court and tnhey very rarely do this because they are nearly always on shaky legal ground to start with. If you are in this situation do a search online for sites such as CAG Forums where you will gain good advice about standing upto these crooks.
I not that the Echo recently ran a story about Lidl in Hadleigh trying to fine customers for staying 6 hours where in reality they had simply returned to the store ! If anyone else is in the same situation please think before paying up and seek further advice.
The Voice of Reason, Southend says...
12:43pm Thu 26 Feb 09
By the way, does anyone actually know who LBS are ? They don't have a website and aren't listed in companies house . . . maybe someone should look into them to make sure that everything they do is above board.
TVoR
Radar Ears, Southend on Sea says...
1:03pm Thu 26 Feb 09
We all know they charge huge release fees, what clamping company doesn't?
LBH are employed by the businesses in Rayleigh who have had enough of people parking in their private spaces and going elsewhere.
Therefore, LBH are not going to listen to hard luck stories, they want to earn their money.
The businesses aren't bothered either, because they pay LBH to stop people parking, so they're happy.
The only people who aren't happy, are those who totally ignore what's right from wrong and do it anyway, thinking they won't be caught.
Radar Ears, Southend on Sea says...
1:07pm Thu 26 Feb 09
The Voice of Reason wrote:I got this off the internet:
Seriously, in this case i don't know how these 'men' sleep at night - but as cockle rightly said, they exist because people disobey the signs. Simply put, if everyone obides by the law, these moder day 'highway men' would simply have to find some other way to make a living - maybe they could take a step up in the world and become estate agents. By the way, does anyone actually know who LBS are ? They don't have a website and aren't listed in companies house . . . maybe someone should look into them to make sure that everything they do is above board. TVoR
POST OFFICE BOX AS ADDRESS!
Contact details:
Address: LBS Enforcement Ltd
PO Box 1391 London Road
Leigh-On-Sea
Essex
SS9 2SA
Contact: Mr Stone & Mr Boosey
Bailiffs
07964 016 070
Bailiffs
07964 018 373
Car Parks
07964 016070
Fax
01702 316541
stk31, Basildon says...
1:22pm Thu 26 Feb 09
If so surely it'd be cheaper to take a risk parking on the double yellow lines outside the front of the shops and risk a real traffic warden catching you - obviously I'm not advocating breaking the law but in certain circumstances if it was in the evening I doubt it'd be causing much of an obstruction to traffic. Even if caught a parking ticket would be nowhere near as much
SA, Rochford says...
1:45pm Thu 26 Feb 09
But having said that, there has been many an occasion when I have been forced to park in a less than ideal spot because I am desperately trying to catch a pharmacy before they close for the night; either for medicine for my daughter or for my elderly mother. I have always found it astonishing that medical professionals will make a home visit to someone too ill to get to surgery, and then write a prescription and leave. How are they supposed to get the medicine if they are too ill to go out? So I would get home from work, invariably held up on trains, and try to find an out of hours chemist because the doctor has said that the medication must be started 'immediately'.
If this lady had to do all that, then I am sympathetic that she then got lumbered with an excessively priced clamping charge.
Of course, my ramblings could be complete off course; the article doesn't go into the 'humanitarian' impact too much!
Either way, and whatever the truth of the situation; whether she is a harassed carer for her Mother or a diabolic liberty taker who is too lazy to walk from the car park, the pricing of these charges is ridiculously high. Nothing short of daylight robbery.
j-w, Leigh says...
2:09pm Thu 26 Feb 09
LBS ENFORCEMENT LIMITED
CHASE BUREAU ACCOUNTANTS
1 ROYAL TERRACE
SOUTHEND ON SEA
ESSEX
SS1 1EA
Company No. 06401175
seem to be part of chase bureau group of about 6 companies.
j-w, Leigh says...
2:15pm Thu 26 Feb 09
thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
2:31pm Thu 26 Feb 09
There is no call for the frankly abusive comments here and the "culprit" I am sure will not knowingly get caught again.
The scandal here is the cost. The "companies" that are being used to deter illegal parkers and who use bully-boy tactics to extort such ridiculous sums from the public need urgent investigation.
By all means stop people parking on private land but the penalty charge needs to match the "crime".
I am sure even a 20 quid on the spot charge would have prevented this lady ever again parking as she did. Note also that it is usually only women and elderly that are targeted. The tough characters who levy these charges no doubt think twice about nabbing 6 foot burly builders.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
3:22pm Thu 26 Feb 09
I am sick to death of living in a society where nobody takes responsibility for their own actions and blame everyone else. NOBODY FORCED THIS LADY TO PARK IN AN ILLEGAL SPOT, SHE CHOSE TO PARK THERE
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
3:27pm Thu 26 Feb 09
The woman parked in the wrong spot. She didn't commit murder or rob anyone.
No need to hang, draw and quarter the woman.
These clampers wait around the corner like rabid animals, salivating and foaming at the mouth in anticipation of finding someone.
Then they thrive on intimidation to release cars - and make the person pay through the nose.
The Voice of Reason, Southend says...
3:41pm Thu 26 Feb 09
TVoR
pinchitter, Leigh-on-sea says...
4:15pm Thu 26 Feb 09
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
4:17pm Thu 26 Feb 09
evilc, essex says...
5:21pm Thu 26 Feb 09
andy:) wrote:Take your head out of dreamland and face reality:
These companies are totally out of control...How can parking on someones bit of land be worthy of a fine totalling hundreds of pounds...it cant !. And I'm amazed that people on here seek to defend these companies, it's nothing but legalised mugging !
I'd avise anyone who receives a 'fin'e or penalty charge from one of these companies not to pay it, they would then have to chase you through a court and tnhey very rarely do this because they are nearly always on shaky legal ground to start with. If you are in this situation do a search online for sites such as CAG Forums where you will gain good advice about standing upto these crooks.
I not that the Echo recently ran a story about Lidl in Hadleigh trying to fine customers for staying 6 hours where in reality they had simply returned to the store ! If anyone else is in the same situation please think before paying up and seek further advice.
They hold the cards they have a car worth more than the fine which they will sell to cover costs and they do sell them!!
bronte, Rayleigh says...
5:36pm Thu 26 Feb 09
Also I would like to point out how many people park in disable car parking places just to pop to the bank etc., maybe these cars should be clamped also, its just the same lazy people doing this. Should the same rules apply?
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
6:18pm Thu 26 Feb 09
bronte wrote:yes i agree, if they are parked where they shouldnt, clamp em, they will soon learn.
It is interesting to read so many comments on LBS enforcement clamping the lady's car in Rayleigh. If your break the rules you have to pay the price, but the law should enforce a sensible charge regarding fines and not just leave to individual companies to charge what they like. Also I would like to point out how many people park in disable car parking places just to pop to the bank etc., maybe these cars should be clamped also, its just the same lazy people doing this. Should the same rules apply?
AND AS FOR THE DO GOODERS THAT SAY ITS OUT OF ORDER, THE MESSAGE IS REALLY REALLY SIMPLE, PARK WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO AND PAY THE RELEVENT FEE, IF YOU PARK LEGALLY, THE CLAMPERS CANT CLAMP YOU OR FINE YOU, WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY LAY THE BLAME FOR YOUR INABILITY TO OBEY THE LAW ON SOMEONE ELSE.
APR, Thundersley says...
8:24pm Thu 26 Feb 09
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
9:04pm Thu 26 Feb 09
Beth the original one wrote:No need for the big pencil.
bronte wrote: It is interesting to read so many comments on LBS enforcement clamping the lady's car in Rayleigh. If your break the rules you have to pay the price, but the law should enforce a sensible charge regarding fines and not just leave to individual companies to charge what they like. Also I would like to point out how many people park in disable car parking places just to pop to the bank etc., maybe these cars should be clamped also, its just the same lazy people doing this. Should the same rules apply?yes i agree, if they are parked where they shouldnt, clamp em, they will soon learn. AND AS FOR THE DO GOODERS THAT SAY ITS OUT OF ORDER, THE MESSAGE IS REALLY REALLY SIMPLE, PARK WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO AND PAY THE RELEVENT FEE, IF YOU PARK LEGALLY, THE CLAMPERS CANT CLAMP YOU OR FINE YOU, WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY LAY THE BLAME FOR YOUR INABILITY TO OBEY THE LAW ON SOMEONE ELSE.
basboy, basildon says...
10:13pm Thu 26 Feb 09
Bailiffs
07964 016 070
Bailiffs
07964 018 373
Car Parks
07964 016070
Fax
01702 316541
The Voice of Reason wrote: Seriously, in this case i don't know how these 'men' sleep at night - but as cockle rightly said, they exist because people disobey the signs. Simply put, if everyone obides by the law, these moder day 'highway men' would simply have to find some other way to make a living - maybe they could take a step up in the world and become estate agents. By the way, does anyone actually know who LBS are ? They don't have a website and aren't listed in companies house . . . maybe someone should look into them to make sure that everything they do is above board. TVoRI got this off the internet: POST OFFICE BOX AS ADDRESS! Contact details: Address: LBS Enforcement Ltd PO Box 1391 London Road Leigh-On-Sea Essex SS9 2SA Contact: Mr Stone & Mr Boosey Bailiffs 07964 016 070 Bailiffs 07964 018 373 Car Parks 07964 016070 Fax 01702 316541
notice the word baliffs
these people want a lot of money with no effort requied sort of people that are unable to hold a real job down
thelonewhinger, benfleet says...
11:07am Fri 27 Feb 09
As this thread is still going - my final comment on the matter:
To Beth (thank goodness) the original one - STOP SHOUTING!
Hope your purse is as big as your mouth for when you get nabbed...
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
2:12pm Fri 27 Feb 09
No one is disputing the charges are extortionate, BUT and it is a big but Dont park illegally, i.e. park in a proper bay and pay the relevent fee, that way there is no way the clampers can charge you those fees, its really really simple.
Oh and by the way i am not so tight or so **** lazy that i wont either walk to a chemsit from a car park or not pay the relevent fee or park where i shouldnt to avoid the above, hence it doesnt matter to you how big or small my purse is.
Why oh why do people continually blame others for their stupidity/laziness or refusal to pay their own way?
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
2:13pm Fri 27 Feb 09
No one is disputing the charges are extortionate, BUT and it is a big but Dont park illegally, i.e. park in a proper bay and pay the relevent fee, that way there is no way the clampers can charge you those fees, its really really simple.
Oh and by the way i am not so tight or so **** lazy that i wont either walk to a chemsit from a car park or not pay the relevent fee or park where i shouldnt to avoid the above, hence it doesnt matter to you how big or small my purse is.
Why oh why do people continually blame others for their stupidity/laziness or refusal to pay their own way?
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
4:20pm Fri 27 Feb 09
I don't think she was tight or lazy. I think she wanted to do a chore quickly. Give it up - there are a lot worse things happening in the world right now than the need verbally beat up a woman who has already paid.
Mary Lou, southend says...
5:39pm Fri 27 Feb 09
The deal is if you park your car on private land, the owner may levy a fee, the amount is on the sign. If you don't like the deal, don't enter into it by parking your car there.
It's that Bl**dy simple.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
7:24pm Fri 27 Feb 09
Soozie wrote:i am not verbally beating anyone up, she basically started it by loudly proclaiming her inability to obey simple rules and break the law, and whine because she got caught, simple
The woman dashed into get her mum's medicine. She parked where she shouldn't have and paid a high price. I don't think she was tight or lazy. I think she wanted to do a chore quickly. Give it up - there are a lot worse things happening in the world right now than the need verbally beat up a woman who has already paid.
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
8:13am Sat 28 Feb 09
Beth the original one wrote:Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
Soozie wrote: The woman dashed into get her mum's medicine. She parked where she shouldn't have and paid a high price. I don't think she was tight or lazy. I think she wanted to do a chore quickly. Give it up - there are a lot worse things happening in the world right now than the need verbally beat up a woman who has already paid.i am not verbally beating anyone up, she basically started it by loudly proclaiming her inability to obey simple rules and break the law, and whine because she got caught, simple
11:38am Thu 26 Feb 09
ok voice i do agree that the charges are excessive, but maybe if she wasnt so damned lazy or tight in the first place, she would have saved herself £286, all for the sake of a 50yd walk or a 60p parking ticket.
Beth
I rest my case!
andywg, Southend says...
9:36am Sat 28 Feb 09
Beth the original one wrote:All Caps: Cruise Control for Cool!
bronte wrote:yes i agree, if they are parked where they shouldnt, clamp em, they will soon learn.
It is interesting to read so many comments on LBS enforcement clamping the lady's car in Rayleigh. If your break the rules you have to pay the price, but the law should enforce a sensible charge regarding fines and not just leave to individual companies to charge what they like. Also I would like to point out how many people park in disable car parking places just to pop to the bank etc., maybe these cars should be clamped also, its just the same lazy people doing this. Should the same rules apply?
AND AS FOR THE DO GOODERS THAT SAY ITS OUT OF ORDER, THE MESSAGE IS REALLY REALLY SIMPLE, PARK WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO AND PAY THE RELEVENT FEE, IF YOU PARK LEGALLY, THE CLAMPERS CANT CLAMP YOU OR FINE YOU, WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY LAY THE BLAME FOR YOUR INABILITY TO OBEY THE LAW ON SOMEONE ELSE.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
2:37pm Sat 28 Feb 09
Soozie wrote:i havent denied saying that the charges are excessive, that wasnt what you stated, you claimed people verbally beating her up.
Beth the original one wrote:Beth the original one, Hawkwell says... 11:38am Thu 26 Feb 09 ok voice i do agree that the charges are excessive, but maybe if she wasnt so damned lazy or tight in the first place, she would have saved herself £286, all for the sake of a 50yd walk or a 60p parking ticket. Beth I rest my case!Soozie wrote: The woman dashed into get her mum's medicine. She parked where she shouldn't have and paid a high price. I don't think she was tight or lazy. I think she wanted to do a chore quickly. Give it up - there are a lot worse things happening in the world right now than the need verbally beat up a woman who has already paid.i am not verbally beating anyone up, she basically started it by loudly proclaiming her inability to obey simple rules and break the law, and whine because she got caught, simple
She parked where she shouldnt, got caught so went whinging and whining to the echo, that to me, is declaring how stupid and lazy and tight she is, especially as there is a car park, which at 7pm at night is empty, right next door to where she parked,
so by copying and pasting a post i havent denied posting pray do tell me how you rest your case. You dont make a very good lawyer.
If someone doesnt want to be verbally beaten up by disobeying the law and getting caught then dont go bleating to the local rag. That is just too stupid for words
I often run errands for my mum, but i do pay for parking, i park in a designated space and then go and do what i have to do, i certainly wouldnt park on someones private property to do so.
Dont have a go at me coz someone was lazy tight and stupid
benfleetbird26, Benfleet says...
3:27pm Sat 28 Feb 09
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
5:43pm Sat 28 Feb 09
Once again you have verbally abused someone by called them lazy and stupid.
Have a deep brath, a malibu and then post. :)
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
7:48pm Sat 28 Feb 09
Soozie wrote:well i am sorry but they are lazy and stupid and tight. Couldnt walk an extra 50 yards and couldnt pay 60p parking ticket and then moaned to the echo when they got caught. Sums it all up really.
Beth you are not on the same planet as us. Please read the whole thread. Once again you have verbally abused someone by called them lazy and stupid. Have a deep brath, a malibu and then post. :)
Oh and by the way, wasnt it you that verbally abused the other lady that got caught parking because you didnt like her coat, At least i have made comments that are true and not about her choice of clothing.
oh and thanks for the malibu, tis one of my fave drinks,
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
7:28am Sun 1 Mar 09
Once again you twist the facts up. I didn't verbally abuse her, I just mentioned I didn't like her coat.
One day Bethie-poo, you will make a bad judgement and they will clamp and tow your big car away.
As someone mentioned earlier 'Hope your purse is as big as your mouth for when you get nabbed'
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
6:18pm Sun 1 Mar 09
The size of my purse has very little bearing on this, especially as i am not so tight, lazy or stupid as to try and park for free on someone elses property, nor would i go blabbing to the newspaper about it. I happen to always pay my way
I am kind of curious as to why you defend this woman and didnt defend the other woman. Wasnt you by any chance was it? lololol
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
4:23am Mon 2 Mar 09
Hardly me.
Be curious all you want, I think you are unfair/rude to call this woman what you have because she was clamped.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
1:58pm Mon 2 Mar 09
So we come back to the truth again which is Tight, lazy and stupid
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
6:42pm Mon 2 Mar 09
Beth the original one wrote:Hope you never get clamped or towed.
what is so rude and unfair about telling the truth. Still they do say the truth hurts so i guess i should apologise for hurting her feelings, but its hardly my fault is it, i didnt force her to park her car where she did and i certainly didnt send in the clampers, nor did i advise her not to pay a 60p parking ticket or not walk an extra 50 yards. So we come back to the truth again which is Tight, lazy and stupid
If you do, then we can call you stupid, lazy and tight.
I look forward to the day.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
9:22pm Mon 2 Mar 09
Soozie wrote:Well that will hardly ever be likely for 3 reasons
Beth the original one wrote: what is so rude and unfair about telling the truth. Still they do say the truth hurts so i guess i should apologise for hurting her feelings, but its hardly my fault is it, i didnt force her to park her car where she did and i certainly didnt send in the clampers, nor did i advise her not to pay a 60p parking ticket or not walk an extra 50 yards. So we come back to the truth again which is Tight, lazy and stupidHope you never get clamped or towed. If you do, then we can call you stupid, lazy and tight. I look forward to the day.
1. I pay to park my car
2. I dont park on private property without the owners permission
3. If and it is a very big IF, i do one of the above, i wouldnt be so thick and stupid as to go blabbing to the local rag.
So carry on looking forward, but dont hold your breath.
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
7:08am Tue 3 Mar 09
We'll see
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
6:15pm Tue 3 Mar 09
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
7:10pm Tue 3 Mar 09
Beth the original one wrote:We'll see
never mind soozie, as i have said, dont hold your breath
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
9:18pm Tue 3 Mar 09
Oh and before you start calling me rude and unfair, try and remember how insulting you can be to people that are suffering from diabetes, i think you will find you were far far ruder and more insulting than i could ever be
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
4:35am Wed 4 Mar 09
Beth the original one wrote:beth you never ever stick to a thread at hand. I don't need to call you rude and unfair, you have shown it already.
fine sit there and watch, i have far better things to do, but a word to the wise, you had better start breathing soon. Oh and before you start calling me rude and unfair, try and remember how insulting you can be to people that are suffering from diabetes, i think you will find you were far far ruder and more insulting than i could ever be
Steve H, In front of PC says...
9:02am Wed 4 Mar 09
As for the costs, well where's the deterrent if you are only fined £10?
These clamping companies thrive because people are too lazy to park where they should. They are companies and like every other company, they operate to make a profit. Say they didn't clamp a car all day, baliffs still have to be paid and overheads still have to be paid.
As much as I dislike the thought of clamping, those that park where they shouldn't take the risk. Put up or shut up.
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
10:03am Wed 4 Mar 09
She may have been lazy, but calling her stupid and tight is a bit much.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
7:27pm Wed 4 Mar 09
Soozie wrote:well she obviously didnt want to pay 60p for a parking ticket in the car park next door = tight, and she couldnt be bothered to read the 14 warning signs and then go crying to the local rag = stupid.
Not disputing the fact she parked where she shouldn't have - she made an error, paid the price and doesn't need to be tried like some horrible criminal like Beth has made her out to be. She may have been lazy, but calling her stupid and tight is a bit much.
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
7:57pm Wed 4 Mar 09
Beth the original one wrote:I guess in your perfect world no one is allowed to make mistakes eh?
Soozie wrote: Not disputing the fact she parked where she shouldn't have - she made an error, paid the price and doesn't need to be tried like some horrible criminal like Beth has made her out to be. She may have been lazy, but calling her stupid and tight is a bit much.well she obviously didnt want to pay 60p for a parking ticket in the car park next door = tight, and she couldnt be bothered to read the 14 warning signs and then go crying to the local rag = stupid.
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
9:56pm Wed 4 Mar 09
Soozie wrote:i havent said anything about being perfect, and i havent said anything about people not being allowed to make an honest mistake. But i dont think she made a mistake, i think she was bone idle, tight and stupid. I ask you what "clever" person will ignore 14 warning signs, park on private property when there is a perfectly good car park right next door and then go crying to the local rag.
Beth the original one wrote:I guess in your perfect world no one is allowed to make mistakes eh?Soozie wrote: Not disputing the fact she parked where she shouldn't have - she made an error, paid the price and doesn't need to be tried like some horrible criminal like Beth has made her out to be. She may have been lazy, but calling her stupid and tight is a bit much.well she obviously didnt want to pay 60p for a parking ticket in the car park next door = tight, and she couldnt be bothered to read the 14 warning signs and then go crying to the local rag = stupid.
Oh and i have very little time for any criminal, they all make a lifestyle choice. I pay my way and i dont see why i should have to pay higher insurance to cover people that wont pay, i dont see why i should work hard to buy things for some "have not" to steal just because they cant be bothered to work and take the easy route.
No i agree this woman is not of the same ilk or the same mould, but she did still break the law, and she got caught. I havent tried her like a criminal, i have just stated my opinion, just because it differs from yours and you find that her parking on someone elses land acceptable, does not mean you have to belittle my opinion or call me rude and unfair. If she parked her car on your driveway and went shopping i doubt very much if you would take kindly to it,
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
4:35am Thu 5 Mar 09
But it is okay for you to belittle other peoples opinions then right?
Get over yourself.
Get over yourself
Beth the original one, Hawkwell says...
1:37pm Thu 5 Mar 09
Soozie, Southend on sea says...
1:49pm Thu 5 Mar 09
Beth the original one wrote:See ya, wouldn't want to Be Ya!
byeeee
mox, Rayleigh says...
11:55pm Wed 18 Mar 09
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evilc, essex says...
8:18am Thu 26 Feb 09
IT IS EASY:
DO NOT PARK YOUR CAR ON PRIVATE LAND ESPECIALLY SOMEWHERE WITH BIG SIGNS SAYING YOU WILL BE CLAMPED!!!
And using her mother as an excuse it pitiful.
Pay up and shut up!