Power is with independents and BNP after leader's party swap (From Echo)

she doesnt take BNP policies into the chamber?

What she doing ther in the first place then

BNP policies?

You mean policies like putting a halt to mass immigration and political correctness, protecting British culture and identity and standing up for law and order. Clearly none of the Lab Lib Con bunch support any of these policies given the current state of the country.

Well done BNP. This will make the established jerks wake up to what society is missing!

The bnp is getting stronger by the day and long may it last.

Lets hope these other parties get the message its time to put the majority first. Stop **** footing around with the minorities. BNP has my vote.

Colleen G wrote:
Well done BNP. This will make the established jerks wake up to what society is missing!

Well done for what exactly?

Well done for kicking established politics up the jacksy. Politics that line the pockets of the crooks that run the councils and parties, whilst the rest of us slowly go to hell. That's *what exactly*!

Whilst I dont know what the solution is, and I think the tories and labour are useless, anyone who supports the BNP and their policies and tactics should hang their heads in shame. Disgusting.

Colleen G wrote:
Well done for kicking established politics up the jacksy. Politics that line the pockets of the crooks that run the councils and parties, whilst the rest of us slowly go to hell. That's *what exactly*!

But she hasn't actually done anything, has she?

Which "policies and tactics" of the BNP are bad exactly? Or is the idea that the BNP is all bad something that you just picked up in the media? Either way, you'd be surprised how many people might vote BNP if the other parties don't get their act together.

Dave G wrote:

Colleen G wrote: Well done for kicking established politics up the jacksy. Politics that line the pockets of the crooks that run the councils and parties, whilst the rest of us slowly go to hell. That's *what exactly*!

But she hasn't actually done anything, has she?

She stands for the hope we have lost in the established idiots who dare to call themselves politicians. It was hope in a similar vein that almost allowed Hitler to take over the world. So please dont under estimate what it means for BNP to take power in Thurrock. Rome wasnt built in a day. This gives the rest of us hope that things will change for us and we can have our decent civilised world back. A world where crime was punished and crooks discouraged. A copper was a copper not a pen pushing shirker. A judge judged and did his duty. If that means we get BNP running the country then so be it. It can hardly be worse then the hole we live in at the moment can it. The hole that means the mutants have taken over the asylum and us law abiding, good people cant do a **** thing about it! Well we can, we can vote BNP and rattle some cages.

Ricayboy wrote:
BNP policies? You mean policies like putting a halt to mass immigration and political correctness, protecting British culture and identity and standing up for law and order. Clearly none of the Lab Lib Con bunch support any of these policies given the current state of the country.

Thank you Ricayboy for your understanding our messages, this makes all the leaflets I have put through doors worth while, to show people there is an alternative and with common sense we can turn round the health service, support out troops better with better equipment, local peoples kids don't lose their school places which has happened in tilbury, stop fat cat mps claiming dodgy allowances shafting the electorate of their tax money, British jobs for British workers, trying to secure a brighter safer future for our kids.

The only violence has been against us, stones,knives , hammer attacks by leftwing extremists, I even asked a vicar to condemn these acts, to explain to mewhy every sunday ( I attend church every sunday ) they preach tolerance and equality without prejudice, how he justified the churches general synod banning bnp from being members, to which I received no reply. Yet here he was was with others who were hurling vile abuse, showing undemocratic intolerance and inequality, persecution and prejudice, calling me anti-semantic holocaust denier ( I have never denied it happened, we all know it did ) to which I told them one of us was from jewish extraction,so a return to the abuse.

People who come up and ask us about their fears about this party soon realise we tell the truth, we are not anything like what is portrayed in the papers, we really care about our kids futures and the British National Party Is an viable alternative if people would not be brainwashed by people like Mr Hipsey who never had a good word for labour but jumped ship to keep the money,to join labour, who moments before were going for a vote of no confidence in his ability.

But some people who are so consumed would rather kick out the most honest hard working councillor emma colgate ( i've seen her in action helping people) and keep in parasite politicians who are only there for the cash.

Emma colgate is the most honest hardworking councillor in thurrock, the established parties will have you believe as a BNP councillor she is crap and don't turn up for meetings, but go to thurrock council's website,read the minutes, she asks a lot of questions, she votes on what she believes is correct and her attendance is 100% impeccable.

My father fought the nazis, he bulldozed the bodies into the burial pits, if I ever thought anyone around me were really fascist nazis I would not have anything to do with them it is all propaganda to keep BNP out so they can keep milking your tax money.

So be reassured The BNP are nothing like germany and hitler of the 40s that's more propaganda to keep voting them in and keep control over you.

Colleen G wrote:

Dave G wrote:

Colleen G wrote: Well done for kicking established politics up the jacksy. Politics that line the pockets of the crooks that run the councils and parties, whilst the rest of us slowly go to hell. That's *what exactly*!

But she hasn't actually done anything, has she?

She stands for the hope we have lost in the established idiots who dare to call themselves politicians. It was hope in a similar vein that almost allowed Hitler to take over the world. So please dont under estimate what it means for BNP to take power in Thurrock. Rome wasnt built in a day. This gives the rest of us hope that things will change for us and we can have our decent civilised world back. A world where crime was punished and crooks discouraged. A copper was a copper not a pen pushing shirker. A judge judged and did his duty. If that means we get BNP running the country then so be it. It can hardly be worse then the hole we live in at the moment can it. The hole that means the mutants have taken over the asylum and us law abiding, good people cant do a **** thing about it! Well we can, we can vote BNP and rattle some cages.

Emma colgate is the most honest hardworking councillor in thurrock, the established parties will have you believe as a BNP councillor she is crap and don't turn up for meetings, but go to thurrock council's website,read the minutes, she asks a lot of questions, she votes on what she believes is correct and her attendance is 100% impeccable.

My father fought the nazis, he bulldozed the bodies into the burial pits, if I ever thought anyone around me were really fascist nazis I would not have anything to do with them it is all propaganda to keep BNP out so they can keep milking your tax money.

So be reassured The BNP are nothing like germany and hitler of the 40s that's more propaganda to keep voting them in and keep control over you.

Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews... They actually dragged Germany from the gutter it was in. From under the jackboot of so called democracy that tried to strangle it, as it is trying to strangle the world today. Hitler and his henchmen did a lot of good for Germany in the early years. They gave Germany back to the Germans. They lanced the seething boil known as Treaty of Versailles. They gave hope back to Germany. In the end power corrupts and it all went wrong. But you know what sitting in this ***hole we call home. Being ripped off by our own politicians left, right and centre. Leaving nothing left for us worth fighting for in this country, even Europe. Who could dare say BNP can do any worse then the ****holes we have in power now? BNP are far from perfect, but they're a darn sight closer to perfection than what we have now. So BNP much of what pre WW2 did was good, so stop denying that and trying to curry favour with the twits who have put us in this situation we have today. Stand up and be counted on what actually counts. You cant please all the people all the time. We already have enough politicians doing that thank you very much.

Let's face it, this country has been steadily going downhill for 50 years due to the greedy, pompous, and half-witted morons in successive goverments.

Perhaps it is time that others were given their chance.

I won't hold my breath but I detect the natives are becoming restless.

And about bloody time to!

I reckon the real rot started at the end of the 70s. Before that we still had old bill on the street, borstals, detention centres. Not so much money but a whole lot better life.

The rot set in when Maggie decided to sell off the family silver and since then the politicians have sold off, or given away everything we ever stood for. We get bugger all from politicians now, all our taxes go on paying the fat cats themselves. To hell with pot holes and services. So we're at least 30 years late in waking up to them. The BNP certainly cannot do a worse job at destroying our country that's for sure.

One question - Why is the BNP villified as extremist and borderline fascist yet SNP are heroes achieving no student fees, no prescription charges and many other such exemptions. How many "travellers" settle in Scotland?

Just asking.....

I have never voted BNP before but I probably will from now on. Who else will stand up for we English people? If the other parties hate the BNP so much they should show us how to be patriotic in a healthy way. As it is, they are all part of the same "one world, multicultural, politically correct" agenda that is being brought in by stealth. Look at the mess our nation is in, and not just financially. Our society has gone rotten from the head down. Can't the establishment understand that unless they stand up for native Brits and British culture, then there will inevitably be a huge backlash of anger which may lead to racism. I have a feeling something terrible is going to happen to Britain in the near future. I am glad that I can say things like this now before they take away our free speech completely. I am not a racist at all. It's just common sense to love your own country and to want to protect it.

I have a feeling something terrible is going to happen to the planet in the very near future!! If these politicians are so bright, and we pay them a fortune. They cannot see we just cant all live together as one big happy family and should stop the silliness now. We are an Island and should stay that way. To hell with the rest.

Well it just goes to show you can't be too careful!

Ricayboy Don't be afraid to vote BNP.I was a staunch labour man but I consider myself intelligent and have worked out that none of the main parties are any different as this story proves, so what's the point in keep voting labour /conservative and nothing changes only getting worse. The intelligent though is if you really want change you have to change the way you vote and the only way to change things is the BNP they are the only real alternative from the same thing going round and round same old same old. If people are not intelligent enough to see they are being taken for mugs by the main parties then they will have to put up and shut up moaning because the electorate have the power to sop all this nonsense.

Well said Patriot. We must force change or it will be the same ol', same ol' forever, as you say.

Like you, I called myself a Socialist once. NOT ANY MORE.

The only form of socialism that exists in this country is champagne socialism unfortunately. However the true labor supporters should actually take back the party as it was formed for the people by the people and not for the global socialites who are now in control of it and abuse their power to enrich themselves.

The BNP can never win or gain any serious advantage in opposition while the electorial system is so flawed with corruption and they will use fraud to keep the BNP out of power, as they have done in the last three elections.

Mr Richards, The BNP are from the people for the people by the people as you have put it.

If people could see them as there friend and get past the mainstream propaganda they would get so many votes that the dodges the mainly labour use to keep in power ( I've attended the council counts and some of it stinks ) will be futile, as I said before its in the electorates hands if they could only be brave and wise enough and as it been said on this story the BNP could not do any worse if given that chance.

Labour have completely lost my respect. My only fear is that the BNP will make a witch hunt against immigrants and people of foreign origin if they get into power. I wouldn't want to see hatred and making of scapegoats against minority groups, though we must of course legitimately deal with the problems of mass immigration and multiculturalism.
I know a lot of people who might vote BNP if they had the assurance that they wouldn't stir up racism or hatred.

Ricayboy wrote:
Labour have completely lost my respect. My only fear is that the BNP will make a witch hunt against immigrants and people of foreign origin if they get into power. I wouldn't want to see hatred and making of scapegoats against minority groups, though we must of course legitimately deal with the problems of mass immigration and multiculturalism. I know a lot of people who might vote BNP if they had the assurance that they wouldn't stir up racism or hatred.

The British people are not stupid, many know see through the smears and lies aimed at the BNP.

The Muslim protest against our homecoming soldiers served as a wake up call, answered by the decent people of Luton and the wider populous.

'Racism and hatred' is perpetrated against the British people daily, so no need to fear the BNP.

Emma Colgate is a very hard working councillor and serve her constituents well.

Colleen G wrote:
Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews... They actually dragged Germany from the gutter it was in. From under the jackboot of so called democracy that tried to strangle it, as it is trying to strangle the world today. Hitler and his henchmen did a lot of good for Germany in the early years. They gave Germany back to the Germans. They lanced the seething boil known as Treaty of Versailles. They gave hope back to Germany. In the end power corrupts and it all went wrong. But you know what sitting in this ***hole we call home. Being ripped off by our own politicians left, right and centre. Leaving nothing left for us worth fighting for in this country, even Europe. Who could dare say BNP can do any worse then the ****holes we have in power now? BNP are far from perfect, but they're a darn sight closer to perfection than what we have now. So BNP much of what pre WW2 did was good, so stop denying that and trying to curry favour with the twits who have put us in this situation we have today. Stand up and be counted on what actually counts. You cant please all the people all the time. We already have enough politicians doing that thank you very much.

You are right about advancing Germany, but you have missed out the cost. Political and people that did not meet Nazi party requirements where used to build the new infrastructure as slave labour. Women where also forced out of work. So by making only men that towed the Nazi line employable, unemployment was cut overnight making Germany appear to be advancing at little cost.

A THURROCK PATRIOT wrote:
Mr Richards, The BNP are from the people for the people by the people as you have put it. If people could see them as there friend and get past the mainstream propaganda they would get so many votes that the dodges the mainly labour use to keep in power ( I've attended the council counts and some of it stinks ) will be futile, as I said before its in the electorates hands if they could only be brave and wise enough and as it been said on this story the BNP could not do any worse if given that chance.

The BNP have not the funding nor the political means to combat the seasoned political veterans against them nor can they stop the massive electorial fraud that keeps them out of winning many seats that they should have. My main problem with the BNP is its undemocratic heirarchy and the way it still has radical right wingers holding the reigns. As more and more people join the BNP I am hoping that it will become more democratic in it's management with elections within it's membership to nominate candidates as leaders and this will give it a far better chance in gaining a secure foothold in this country. While Nick, Tony and the others who dominate the BNP hold fast onto the reigns though, it is never going to happen as their previous political history is tainted unfortunately and the Left wing rdicals will never let it lie.

Having said that their are many labor candidates and MP's who have a grim history of violence during their days in opposition and being members of the Extreme left wing Socialist Workers Party. There are a few embarrassing websited where you can see pictures of current MP's throwing rocks at police men, so they are no better than Nick or Tony. Only thing is that they are part of the current political establishment now while the BNP is in it's infancy still.

They may however get my vote in Canvey Island, once I have met the candidate and seen what type of person they are.

I cannot believe the posts that I've been reading!

Colleen, Rickayboy & cohorts. I understand the core message of the BNP well. I also have first hand experience of how that message has, for decades, been twisted into one of hate, racial prejudice, and violence.

Yes, I personally believe that liberal attitudes, handing out money to freeloaders (from both in the UK and from Overseas), supporting the lazy, backing the liberal flower-grasping tree-hugging contingent is all wrong. I believe in an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. I believe there's nothing wrong in patriotism....

...but I believe that the BNP are NOT the solution that they tout themselves to be. And they never will be!!

Just those three words alone are enough to scare & intimidate any honest, hard working, taxpaying british citizen with different ethnic origins.

The BNP keep saying that they want the best for Britain. It's such a shame that they display the worst of Britain.

Colleen G wrote:
Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews... They actually dragged Germany from the gutter it was in. From under the jackboot of so called democracy that tried to strangle it, as it is trying to strangle the world today. Hitler and his henchmen did a lot of good for Germany in the early years. They gave Germany back to the Germans. They lanced the seething boil known as Treaty of Versailles. They gave hope back to Germany. In the end power corrupts and it all went wrong. But you know what sitting in this ***hole we call home. Being ripped off by our own politicians left, right and centre. Leaving nothing left for us worth fighting for in this country, even Europe. Who could dare say BNP can do any worse then the ****holes we have in power now? BNP are far from perfect, but they're a darn sight closer to perfection than what we have now. So BNP much of what pre WW2 did was good, so stop denying that and trying to curry favour with the twits who have put us in this situation we have today. Stand up and be counted on what actually counts. You cant please all the people all the time. We already have enough politicians doing that thank you very much.

Colleen

It's obvious from your several posts here that you are a card-carrying member of the BNP, and that you believe passionately in their cause.

What a pity, because your posts have been repulsive, ill-informed, and done more than enough to demonstate what a putrid, squalid and despicable mindset seems to attract people to the BNP.

I think the nadir of your posts was "We are an island and should stay that way. To hell with the rest"! - With an ethos like that, you'd do well at the Westboro Baptist church.

At least some of your colleagues attempt to make some sort of rational justification in voting BNP. You just seem to be full of vitriol for anything non-british.

If I were you, I'd shut up, before even the BNP disown you for being so far right, even Enoch Powell would seem like Mahatma Ghandi in comparison.

trell wrote:
I cannot believe the posts that I've been reading! Colleen, Rickayboy & cohorts. I understand the core message of the BNP well. I also have first hand experience of how that message has, for decades, been twisted into one of hate, racial prejudice, and violence. Yes, I personally believe that liberal attitudes, handing out money to freeloaders (from both in the UK and from Overseas), supporting the lazy, backing the liberal flower-grasping tree-hugging contingent is all wrong. I believe in an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. I believe there's nothing wrong in patriotism.... ...but I believe that the BNP are NOT the solution that they tout themselves to be. And they never will be!! Just those three words alone are enough to scare & intimidate any honest, hard working, taxpaying british citizen with different ethnic origins. The BNP keep saying that they want the best for Britain. It's such a shame that they display the worst of Britain.

What other solution is there then other than placing a few BNP mp's in power to show our distataste for the current poltical parties. The BNP is the fastest growing political party in this country and it has no option but to change to absorb the new membership. The people flocking to the BNP are not all racists and bigots but mostly patriots who are dissillussioned by Labor. Liberals and Conservatives who have no grasp on the needs of the electorate.

Our problem is that most of our councillors and MP's think that the people are there as to serve their requirements while they hold office. They forget that they are their as servants of the people to abide by our wishes and represent our views on how we want our communities to be run.
Given the choice between the treacherous labor party who dont give a da mn about the popele only their globalist advance and that of the BNP party who although inexperienced in national politics, still see hope for England as a unique culture and the British people regaining some of their past integrity in world politics, I know where I will place my vote.

My first allegiance in this country is to the queen and the laws of ths state and my religion comes next. If people cannot put the laws of the land first and swear an oath of allegiance to this country over their religouos beliefs then they should not be living here. Those that are willing to swear that oath should be willingly accepted

I am not a racist and never will be, but I am a patriot who has been let down by the mainstream parties. Really, if I a want to vote for a patriotic party, the BNP is the only realistic choice that I can see. Even the Tories have largely abandoned their patriotic stance, so who is is left? The BNP may be a bit rough around the edges but I hope that it will develop as more educated and informed people join it. Remember, a BNP councilor or candidate has to put up with much abuse from the public, so at least this shows that they are willing to fight for their convictions as opposed to those from the other parties, whose beliefs cost them very little.

trell wrote:

Colleen G wrote: Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews... They actually dragged Germany from the gutter it was in. From under the jackboot of so called democracy that tried to strangle it, as it is trying to strangle the world today. Hitler and his henchmen did a lot of good for Germany in the early years. They gave Germany back to the Germans. They lanced the seething boil known as Treaty of Versailles. They gave hope back to Germany. In the end power corrupts and it all went wrong. But you know what sitting in this ***hole we call home. Being ripped off by our own politicians left, right and centre. Leaving nothing left for us worth fighting for in this country, even Europe. Who could dare say BNP can do any worse then the ****holes we have in power now? BNP are far from perfect, but they're a darn sight closer to perfection than what we have now. So BNP much of what pre WW2 did was good, so stop denying that and trying to curry favour with the twits who have put us in this situation we have today. Stand up and be counted on what actually counts. You cant please all the people all the time. We already have enough politicians doing that thank you very much.

Colleen It's obvious from your several posts here that you are a card-carrying member of the BNP, and that you believe passionately in their cause. What a pity, because your posts have been repulsive, ill-informed, and done more than enough to demonstate what a putrid, squalid and despicable mindset seems to attract people to the BNP. I think the nadir of your posts was "We are an island and should stay that way. To hell with the rest"! - With an ethos like that, you'd do well at the Westboro Baptist church. At least some of your colleagues attempt to make some sort of rational justification in voting BNP. You just seem to be full of vitriol for anything non-british. If I were you, I'd shut up, before even the BNP disown you for being so far right, even Enoch Powell would seem like Mahatma Ghandi in comparison.

I think you misintrepret my points, in desperation to make one of your own. The only thing I can see that needs clarification, even to the densest is my first sentnce "Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews" ! That in no way supports or condones any murder of innocents, be they Jewish, Polish, Black, White or Green.

My point is how, given the right circumstances, a party like The BNP can take power suddenly and with great justification, if they tick enough of the boxes that the elctorate want and need. Presently, in my opinion, BNP tick a lot more boxes than the established rats who seem intent on filling their holdalls with cash before the sinking ship goes under. BNP are the only party who are even close to what Britain wants and needs. If they give us jobs, throw out the filthy foreign crooks, pimps, murderers and skivers. And imprison our own crooks, pimps, murders and skivers then they will surely be getting my vote.

Labour/Cons have done nothing in the last twenty years but destroy everything we ever had worth fighting for!

Labour Two Bob
Tories Two Bob
Libs Two Bob
BNP get in there!!!
Emma Colgate get in there girl.

Colleen G wrote:

trell wrote:

Colleen G wrote: Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews... They actually dragged Germany from the gutter it was in. From under the jackboot of so called democracy that tried to strangle it, as it is trying to strangle the world today. Hitler and his henchmen did a lot of good for Germany in the early years. They gave Germany back to the Germans. They lanced the seething boil known as Treaty of Versailles. They gave hope back to Germany. In the end power corrupts and it all went wrong. But you know what sitting in this ***hole we call home. Being ripped off by our own politicians left, right and centre. Leaving nothing left for us worth fighting for in this country, even Europe. Who could dare say BNP can do any worse then the ****holes we have in power now? BNP are far from perfect, but they're a darn sight closer to perfection than what we have now. So BNP much of what pre WW2 did was good, so stop denying that and trying to curry favour with the twits who have put us in this situation we have today. Stand up and be counted on what actually counts. You cant please all the people all the time. We already have enough politicians doing that thank you very much.

Colleen It's obvious from your several posts here that you are a card-carrying member of the BNP, and that you believe passionately in their cause. What a pity, because your posts have been repulsive, ill-informed, and done more than enough to demonstate what a putrid, squalid and despicable mindset seems to attract people to the BNP. I think the nadir of your posts was "We are an island and should stay that way. To hell with the rest"! - With an ethos like that, you'd do well at the Westboro Baptist church. At least some of your colleagues attempt to make some sort of rational justification in voting BNP. You just seem to be full of vitriol for anything non-british. If I were you, I'd shut up, before even the BNP disown you for being so far right, even Enoch Powell would seem like Mahatma Ghandi in comparison.

I think you misintrepret my points, in desperation to make one of your own. The only thing I can see that needs clarification, even to the densest is my first sentnce "Germany. The Nazis and Hitler did a lot more than kill Jews" ! That in no way supports or condones any murder of innocents, be they Jewish, Polish, Black, White or Green.

My point is how, given the right circumstances, a party like The BNP can take power suddenly and with great justification, if they tick enough of the boxes that the elctorate want and need. Presently, in my opinion, BNP tick a lot more boxes than the established rats who seem intent on filling their holdalls with cash before the sinking ship goes under. BNP are the only party who are even close to what Britain wants and needs. If they give us jobs, throw out the filthy foreign crooks, pimps, murderers and skivers. And imprison our own crooks, pimps, murders and skivers then they will surely be getting my vote.

Labour/Cons have done nothing in the last twenty years but destroy everything we ever had worth fighting for!

I don't think I need to be desperate in order to make a point here. - If anything, it's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.

The BNP are a party too tainted with inherent racism. Just those three letters alone represent intimidation, violence and a mentality that was barely condoned in the 70's, and simply has no place in modern society. Your very words 'throw out the filthy foreign crooks etc.' pretty much sums it up. Who are you, or any other member of the BNP, to decide which members of our society are 'filthy foreigners'? Britain is a great country, spoilt by a few. Many immigrants who come here legally are good honest, hardworking taxpayers, and have just as much right to live and work here as anyone born here, without the fear of being segregated and intimidated by three grafitti-daubed words. - Meanwhile, many underclass workshy British citizens are all too ready to cry out how the 'filthy foreigners come over here and take our jobs, while happily sitting around on sofas, watching plasma TVs all day, and only venturing out when it's time to get their dole cheques.

Illegal immigrants only hamper the situation that Britain has got itself in, and all the BNP are doing, are pointing fingers at a small minority and shouting "It's all their fault".

If the BNP are to have any credibility in this society, the best thing they can do is to disband, start up with a clean slate, and forget about nationalism altogether. It doesn't work, and Britain will further be shooting itself in the foot.

Like I said, patriotism is a good thing. In fact, it's a great thing! It brings people together, and gives true Brits (regardless of their ethnic origin), something to work for and be proud of. Nationalism only serves to isolate and segregate the populous.

Bravo trell - well said!

"Nationalism only serves to isolate and segregate the populous."

In that case the SNP should also be shut down.

Trell, you are right there are plenty of white scum i.e the shannon matthews type parents/people etc in this area, but i have seen plenty of our african friends shall we say turn up on our shores work (i use the term loosely) for 3 months get their phones etc with their 3 wage slips then job done. Oh look we can now claim for the rest of our lives now, guess who's paying??
Then along comes some of there kids and we are stuck with them.
Vote Labour!!!!!!!

mpgrays wrote:
Trell, you are right there are plenty of white scum i.e the shannon matthews type parents/people etc in this area, but i have seen plenty of our african friends shall we say turn up on our shores work (i use the term loosely) for 3 months get their phones etc with their 3 wage slips then job done. Oh look we can now claim for the rest of our lives now, guess who's paying??
Then along comes some of there kids and we are stuck with them.
Vote Labour!!!!!!!

mpgrays

I think you may be missing a point here that I'm trying to make.

Yes, there are, as Colleen G points out, immigrants who come over to the UK to take advantage of an overly-generous system in dire need of an overhaul. However, there are also immigrants who come to the UK in order to make a new start, work hard, and contribute to the community. Why should they be bundled with a small minority that only get notoriety from media coverage? - It may shock Colleen G & co but this issue affects and depresses Mr & Mrs Patel just as much as Mr & Mrs Jones.

The same with some of the underclasses. With so many people being laid off, most people want to work, but some would choose to abuse the system. Others, who have a sense of pride & dignity, are trying desperately to get off the estates and stop living on hand-outs. Again, why should they be lumped in with the others?

As for the whole "Labour/Toies won't do it, so who can?" attitude, I'm afraid that the answer is NOT the BNP. In fact, I severely doubt that any political party has the integrity to resolve the problem. It's an issue of power, corruptability, & human nature. Stick the BNP in and all you will see are the same dire headlines as we are getting from Labour, and that we had with the Conservatives, only with added xenophobia thrown in.

Arguing politics is a bit like arguing whther to have a red smartie or a blue one. Only a real idiot, however, would argue that the poisoned ones are the best.

trell wrote:

mpgrays wrote:
Trell, you are right there are plenty of white scum i.e the shannon matthews type parents/people etc in this area, but i have seen plenty of our african friends shall we say turn up on our shores work (i use the term loosely) for 3 months get their phones etc with their 3 wage slips then job done. Oh look we can now claim for the rest of our lives now, guess who's paying??
Then along comes some of there kids and we are stuck with them.
Vote Labour!!!!!!!

mpgrays

I think you may be missing a point here that I'm trying to make.

Yes, there are, as Colleen G points out, immigrants who come over to the UK to take advantage of an overly-generous system in dire need of an overhaul. However, there are also immigrants who come to the UK in order to make a new start, work hard, and contribute to the community. Why should they be bundled with a small minority that only get notoriety from media coverage? - It may shock Colleen G & co but this issue affects and depresses Mr & Mrs Patel just as much as Mr & Mrs Jones.

The same with some of the underclasses. With so many people being laid off, most people want to work, but some would choose to abuse the system. Others, who have a sense of pride & dignity, are trying desperately to get off the estates and stop living on hand-outs. Again, why should they be lumped in with the others?

As for the whole "Labour/Toies won't do it, so who can?" attitude, I'm afraid that the answer is NOT the BNP. In fact, I severely doubt that any political party has the integrity to resolve the problem. It's an issue of power, corruptability, & human nature. Stick the BNP in and all you will see are the same dire headlines as we are getting from Labour, and that we had with the Conservatives, only with added xenophobia thrown in.

Arguing politics is a bit like arguing whther to have a red smartie or a blue one. Only a real idiot, however, would argue that the poisoned ones are the best.

One thing i've noticed over the years with left leaning voters is that they love to dash the hopes of others. I've read many comments sections on line and in the local and national papers through the years and whenever someone voices change, they insult the person.

They especially love to demonise the BNP because they are too non-pc; they hate the Tories because they represent the middle classes; disagree with the Labour Party and the Lib Dems because they are not liberal enough.

What do you people want out of life? I know you want us all to hold hands, share the wealth, and be equal, but that's not going to happen unless you do something about it.

I suppose it's easier to knock those that give life a go.

We have given the Labour party a try - that failed. The Tories have failed.

I for one will be voting for the BNP because I want to give them a try before I judge them on their abilities.

Here are a a couple of quotes from the greatest of all British statesmen as usual he sums the intellectual void that sits like an elephant in the room everytime the lefties pipe up. So ready lefties? Ok here we go then:Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

In addition to the above Churchillian quotes I think it's worth reminding ourselves of the most pressing problem faced by countries such as Britain- OVERPOPULATION. The fact is countries like Britain might take in say 250.0000 immigrants per annum but then the third world will add another 80,000,000 people to the worlds burgeoning population. The immigrants who are largely economic migrants then start the process of geometric progression within the host nation and as the host nations population declines and the infrastructure crumbles White flight occurs. We are two short decades away from whites becoming a minority in the UK, do you think south Africa or Japan would accept this situation? Check out migration watches website and the full impact of the problem is graphically spelt out. Labour, Tory and the Liberals will do nothing to curb these problems and even if they wanted to they couldn't their hands are tied by the EU. This leaves one option and one alone. It's not perfect but it's the best we got, So if you want to avoid a Catastophic breakdown in social cohesion and a federal unelected EU superstate VOTE BNP

http://landandpeople
.bnp.org.uk/

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

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trell wrote:

mpgrays wrote:
Trell, you are right there are plenty of white scum i.e the shannon matthews type parents/people etc in this area, but i have seen plenty of our african friends shall we say turn up on our shores work (i use the term loosely) for 3 months get their phones etc with their 3 wage slips then job done. Oh look we can now claim for the rest of our lives now, guess who's paying??
Then along comes some of there kids and we are stuck with them.
Vote Labour!!!!!!!

mpgrays

I think you may be missing a point here that I'm trying to make.

Yes, there are, as Colleen G points out, immigrants who come over to the UK to take advantage of an overly-generous system in dire need of an overhaul. However, there are also immigrants who come to the UK in order to make a new start, work hard, and contribute to the community. Why should they be bundled with a small minority that only get notoriety from media coverage? - It may shock Colleen G & co but this issue affects and depresses Mr & Mrs Patel just as much as Mr & Mrs Jones.

The same with some of the underclasses. With so many people being laid off, most people want to work, but some would choose to abuse the system. Others, who have a sense of pride & dignity, are trying desperately to get off the estates and stop living on hand-outs. Again, why should they be lumped in with the others?

As for the whole "Labour/Toies won't do it, so who can?" attitude, I'm afraid that the answer is NOT the BNP. In fact, I severely doubt that any political party has the integrity to resolve the problem. It's an issue of power, corruptability, & human nature. Stick the BNP in and all you will see are the same dire headlines as we are getting from Labour, and that we had with the Conservatives, only with added xenophobia thrown in.

Arguing politics is a bit like arguing whther to have a red smartie or a blue one. Only a real idiot, however, would argue that the poisoned ones are the best.

One thing i've noticed over the years with left leaning voters is that they love to dash the hopes of others. I've read many comments sections on line and in the local and national papers through the years and whenever someone voices change, they insult the person.

They especially love to demonise the BNP because they are too non-pc; they hate the Tories because they represent the middle classes; disagree with the Labour Party and the Lib Dems because they are not liberal enough.

What do you people want out of life? I know you want us all to hold hands, share the wealth, and be equal, but that's not going to happen unless you do something about it.

I suppose it's easier to knock those that give life a go.

We have given the Labour party a try - that failed. The Tories have failed.

I for one will be voting for the BNP because I want to give them a try before I judge them on their abilities.

Where in my post does it suggest that I am 'Left-leaning'?

If the BNP didn't have such a deep and bloody history of racism, I would consider their policies, but as far as any party that promotes, supports, or even condones racism, I will, as a rational human being, NEVER think that just because I was born on a particular lump of soil, that it gives me the right to persecute someone who was born on a different lump of soil.

I will not, also, just vote for a different party just because the others didn't work. True, I am disappointed in the Tories & Labour, but I would sooner give either of them a vote again before resorting to the BNP. Are you serious when you say 'Give life a go'? What kind of weird criteria do you have for your vote? In future, try looking at things like the policies and history of the party before being drawn in by the fluff and spin. - The incompetence of labour, and the scandal-ridden past of the tories is far more tolerable than the evil actions of the facist zealots of the far right.

I'll tell you what would happen if the BNP were placed in power. There would be more crime, and more violence for a start. Multicultural communities would be torn apart. The political climate would fester vigilante groups from both sides, and in the confusion, terrorist groups would prosper. The economy would drop lower than ever as millions would sell up to go live abroad. The pound would drop as no global market will want to trade with the UK, and the UK will have very little worth buying anyway. Tourism would suffer (who wants to visit a country run by xenophobes?).

And despite all that, there will still be no change to the corruption inherent by people in positions of power. It's human nature to take advantage of any situation, and politicians, especially the BNP, are noting if not a bunch of opportunists.

I am sure that, as long as there are rational human beings still living in the UK, who will never tolerate racism, regardless of whether their views lean to the left or to the right, that your vote will be wasted, and that the BNP will never come to power!

By the way, Mr McArthur, and anyone else who'se only argument is thar rhwy will be voting BNP just because they don't like the alternatives, consider this:

Every political party's bread & butter is based on party policy. It's the bit where they acknowledge the problems that this country faces, and where they state that they will deal with the problem.

The one thing that every political party does not reveal is exactly how they are going to deal with the problems that they highlight.

The BNP may be one of the few parties that address illegal immigration, welfare cheats etc., but do you really think that they are going to tackle the problem in a manner that doesn't use fear, intimidation and violence?

If you answered 'yes', then perhaps you need to look at their history, and maybe do a little soul-searching too. After all, every single british citizen is a hybrid of pan-european and asian bloodlines, going back as far as the moors, the vikings and the normans. There is no such thing as a 'pure-blood brit'. that is the stuff of myth.

...and if the shoe was on the other foot, if you were a hard-working, tax-paying law-abiding citizen who has an ethnic background, how would you feel if the very country you live in turned against you just because your history does not comply with what is deemed as 'acceptable'? Before you make stupid decisions based on the lack of alternatives, you, and anyone else who would even think about tolerating discrimination, really need to bring your delusions in check. Britain thrives and survives through its economic hardships, not because of whoever is voted into power, but through the strength of its myriad of communities. That includes the many diverse and rich ethnic communities that give this nation its backbone. Anyone willing to jeapordise a society that thrives on its multicultural identity may find that they alienate themselves from it altogether.

Go on. I dare you to tell all your friends, work colleagues and neighbours, that you are going to vote for the BNP, and see what their reactions are if you want any proof.