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Farewell Camp Bling, our job here is done


IT WAS a four-year lifestyle of tree-top homes and nature on the doorstep, but now Camp Bling is moving on.

Campaigners had been living on the site to prevent Southend Council from pushing ahead with plans to widen Priory Crescent, but when the council backed down earlier this year, Camp Bling began to come down.

Protesters have been dismantling the camp, which consists of 17 makeshift wooden huts and tree houses. But they are far from sad the camp – which for many has been their home – is being taken down.

Nadine Bourne, 26, lived at the site for a year and now lives in Bristol.

She said: “Life at the camp could be tough – there were ups and downs. There was abuse from passers-by. But it didn’t last long, and we had lots of support from the community.

“I don’t feel sad the camp is coming down, it is actually really positive. It has been a success and achieved what it set out to do.”

People on the camp tried to make life as harmonious as possible, with Blingers living a “low impact” lifestyle using recycled material, and solar and wind energy. The site even has its own cat, Ginger.

The base started out as just one platform in a tree covered with tarpaulin, but it soon grew into a mini-village – which should be completely gone by the end of July.

And these green campaigners are taking the meaning of recycling to the next level, as some of the material used to create Camp Bling is being taken to another protest site at Titnore woods, Worthing, West Sussex, where people are campaigning against Tesco.

Shaun Qureshi, 37, one of the founding members of Bling, said soon no one would know they were ever there.

He said: “We are doing it as sympathetically as possible to minimise the impact.

“All that can be seen from the huts we have taken down is a patch of soil, which we dig over. Grass is already growing back.”

The campaign to stop the road began eight years ago, before Camp Bling, but for many of the Blingers the camp has shaped their lives.

Shaun added: “We are not necessarily expecting people to agree with us, but it is good to see something like this in the local community. It shows things don’t have to be the way they are – we all have choices and we have to be prepared to face up to the consequences of those choices.

“A lot of material is being reused and recycled. Ideally we are avoiding landfill. A lot of the stuff here was second-hand when we got it.

“There is a lot of nature here, but I have a feeling the council will come and strim it within an inch of its life.

Shaun has not made up his mind about what to do next. He added: “We need to look at the way we live. We need to be aware of peak oil and climate change.”

The determined protesters first set up the camp in 2005, following the discovery of a Saxon king’s burial ground on the site.

The name of the camp took its inspiration from the Sun newspaper, which dubbed the Saxon king buried in the tomb the King of Bling, because gold crosses were found during the archaeological dig.


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DannyK86, Leigh says...
9:14am Wed 24 Jun 09

So it seems the vast majority are moving elsewhere to other protests or back where they came from, despite their claims that most of them were 'locals'.

Rick Jones, Southend-on-Sea says...
10:20am Wed 24 Jun 09

DannyK86 wrote:
So it seems the vast majority are moving elsewhere to other protests or back where they came from, despite their claims that most of them were 'locals'.
So true most were from outside Southend so it had jack all to do with them.

"Shaun has not made up his mind about what to do next"

apart form (to the tune of Your never walk alone)

Sign on sign on with pen in hand and he will never get a job He will never get a job...

Jaq, sos says...
10:38am Wed 24 Jun 09

If you read the article, you will see it is the materials that are moving on to other sites to be recycled, none of the residents are moving to other sites, but are in fact moving back to their homes within the area as was always the plan. None of the Bling residents are full time protesters just locals who now want to now get on with their lives without daily abuse.

Again nobody plans to sign on either, most of the residents worked in local jobs whilst there and will simply continue to do so from their main homes rather than from Bling.

Oh and you forgot to mention council tax this time, so ill answer anyway, yes they all continue to pay in on their non bling homes!

jq, Shoeburyness says...
10:55am Wed 24 Jun 09

The materials are being recycled, is that why i drove passed there at around 2am
last night and there was a bloody great fire burning there, thats not my kind of recycling, And far from the Council backing down from this scum, more the case of the government closing up the chq book


farnishk, says...
10:55am Wed 24 Jun 09

Rick, does *your* job have a net positive or negative effect on society as a whole? The whole "get a job" thing is meaningless. I experienced this when I was picking berries at Bling. I had enough to make two pies, with loads left over on the bushes: then someone drove past in a white van screaming "GET A JOB!" I guess that would be in order to earn money to buy food.

How bizarre.

farnishk, says...
11:00am Wed 24 Jun 09

JQ, yes, some of the scrap wood had to be burnt - it couldn't be reused for anything, and in many cases had been donated but was unusable due to woodworm, full of nails etc. All burns are controlled, in high-temperature braziers to reduce smoke, and the local fire brigade are more than happy. Or would you rather it went into landfill, or the council had to pay for it to be taken away.

Which of the three options do you choose, JQ?

Quercus, Westcliff on Sea says...
11:07am Wed 24 Jun 09

I was having a good long chat with Shaun Quereshi down on his allotment last week, and far from being a 'rent a protester' as some of the correspondents above suggest he was telling me how much he is looking forward to getting back to normal in his job, home and general life. I'd also confirm as a life long (well since I was 8 years old in 1968) resident of the town that most of the people I ever met at the camp were local, employed and not in reciept of benefits to the best of my knowledge. Best wishes to everybody, whether the Camp made you glad or angry.

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
11:20am Wed 24 Jun 09

farnishk wrote:
Rick, does *your* job have a net positive or negative effect on society as a whole? The whole "get a job" thing is meaningless. I experienced this when I was picking berries at Bling. I had enough to make two pies, with loads left over on the bushes: then someone drove past in a white van screaming "GET A JOB!" I guess that would be in order to earn money to buy food. How bizarre.
I will miss the friendly waves from you 'Blingers' now you are going.

Good luck with whatever you all decide to do. I think all of you that stuck it out in the face of a of adversity and abuse from those who did not understand (but very quick to beak off) admirable.

evilc, essex says...
11:22am Wed 24 Jun 09

P155 off!you do not speak for me.

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
11:28am Wed 24 Jun 09

evilc wrote:
P155 off!you do not speak for me.
who you talking to evilc?

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
11:29am Wed 24 Jun 09

evilc wrote:
P155 off!you do not speak for me.
who you talking to evilc?

GavtheSpav, Southend says...
11:46am Wed 24 Jun 09

Oh poor Rick Jones, jq, evilc etc... You're going to have find some other minority cause or group that you don't understand to abuse. It's reassuring from camps point-of-view that pretty much all criticisms we received were ill-founded and based on stereotypical assumptions and not on truth. We Win, We Rock!!

Don South, says...
12:17pm Wed 24 Jun 09

There are some protesters who vowed not to wash until they achieved victory.

A walking 'biological' weapon to overpower by body odour any construction workers that ventured near.

At long last they can remove four years of built up grime from thie bodies and join normal society.

Many residents had complained of smells coming from the nearby waste treatment works - not realising it was the stench of the protesters.

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
12:26pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Don South wrote:
There are some protesters who vowed not to wash until they achieved victory. A walking 'biological' weapon to overpower by body odour any construction workers that ventured near. At long last they can remove four years of built up grime from thie bodies and join normal society. Many residents had complained of smells coming from the nearby waste treatment works - not realising it was the stench of the protesters.
I sincerely doubt that Don. If you want real proof of stinky unwashed filthy people - half the commuters into London can't be bothered to wash on a daily if not weekly basis. Ugh

If that is what you want to call normal society, I wonder what abnormal is.

streaky, leigh says...
12:35pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Now these wasters have left the site (back to their homes all over the place), can we widen the road?

spudgun2007, Little Wakering says...
12:35pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Yippee!! now bring on the bulldozers and tarmac after a month or so when all these wasters have chained themselves to trees somewhere else.

evilc, essex says...
12:38pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Soozie wrote:
evilc wrote:
P155 off!you do not speak for me.
who you talking to evilc?
Soozie my dear it certainly aint meant for you.

'Your my favourite'

It is to the tree huggers.

Rick Jones, Southend-on-Sea says...
12:56pm Wed 24 Jun 09

The "Blingers" did not win the Labour Govenment bankrupt the country and had no funds to support the road. As for abusing groups or minority causes I'll thinbk of something.

farnishk, My job is in insurance *Rick ducks for cover* I would say it has a positive effect on those that are effected by the type of insurance it is I am also a claims assessor *Rick ducks for more cover* its in shipping and aviation.

DannyK86, Leigh says...
1:15pm Wed 24 Jun 09

ah, but Rick, farnishk is a professional berry scavenger - how can you compete?!

I would love his lifestyle, but I happen to hate berries and nettle tea and so have to work to buy tasty food.

Partyboy2, Southchurch village says...
1:16pm Wed 24 Jun 09

streaky wrote:
Now these wasters have left the site (back to their homes all over the place), can we widen the road?
Gonna have to be quick or it will have pikey's on it before long!

GavtheSpav, Southend says...
1:19pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Blimey, Rick Jones, someone trying to argue back intelligently?!? Am I looking at the same forum?? I've held down a full time job for the whole time i've been living there so there!

atwork, says...
1:23pm Wed 24 Jun 09

i would like to say a MASSIVE thank you to the people of camp bling! You won :), there is no real use for the road and if it was up to certain people the whole country would end up as one big motorway. So im very proud that there are people who care about what happens to the area. They certainly wasnt on the dol or all the other nasty comments people decided to put, you shouldnt be so sterotypical! Least these people are doing a good cause!!! :).
And also...it doesnt make you a tree hugger just because you dont want a dirty great road through a park!!

southendmechanic, southend on sea says...
1:35pm Wed 24 Jun 09

farishk why didnt the transit van that brought most of the cr*p to the site in the first place take it to stock road dump! wood can be recycled in most states or sent for burning in establishments that harness the heat and use it hence not wasting it. That controlled burn as you so nicely put it was blowing smoke across the road and when the wind changed took it over the railway. You go on and on about people looking after the enviroment but when its is too much trouble for yourselves it isnt an issue. Parklife took the stuff there stop burning it and get it gone use the same transport you constantly blocked the pavement with whilst the protest was going on with i am fed up living across from an eye sore and a dump

Rick Jones, Southend-on-Sea says...
1:41pm Wed 24 Jun 09

atwork wrote:
i would like to say a MASSIVE thank you to the people of camp bling! You won :), there is no real use for the road and if it was up to certain people the whole country would end up as one big motorway. So im very proud that there are people who care about what happens to the area. They certainly wasnt on the dol or all the other nasty comments people decided to put, you shouldnt be so sterotypical! Least these people are doing a good cause!!! :). And also...it doesnt make you a tree hugger just because you dont want a dirty great road through a park!!
So the labour govenment have not bust the country and there is not a recession and the contry is not going to hell in a hand cart...

The project was scrapped because the govenment did not have the money to fund it end of.

Partyboy2, Southchurch village says...
1:59pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Rick Jones wrote:
atwork wrote: i would like to say a MASSIVE thank you to the people of camp bling! You won :), there is no real use for the road and if it was up to certain people the whole country would end up as one big motorway. So im very proud that there are people who care about what happens to the area. They certainly wasnt on the dol or all the other nasty comments people decided to put, you shouldnt be so sterotypical! Least these people are doing a good cause!!! :). And also...it doesnt make you a tree hugger just because you dont want a dirty great road through a park!!
So the labour govenment have not bust the country and there is not a recession and the contry is not going to hell in a hand cart... The project was scrapped because the govenment did not have the money to fund it end of.
I will laugh my a** off if pikies move in on the land. Then the supportive locals will be crying out for it to be tarmac'd. Probably get it done on the cheap too!

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
2:03pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Rick Jones wrote:
atwork wrote: i would like to say a MASSIVE thank you to the people of camp bling! You won :), there is no real use for the road and if it was up to certain people the whole country would end up as one big motorway. So im very proud that there are people who care about what happens to the area. They certainly wasnt on the dol or all the other nasty comments people decided to put, you shouldnt be so sterotypical! Least these people are doing a good cause!!! :). And also...it doesnt make you a tree hugger just because you dont want a dirty great road through a park!!
So the labour govenment have not bust the country and there is not a recession and the contry is not going to hell in a hand cart... The project was scrapped because the govenment did not have the money to fund it end of.
Wrongo Rick. The money was there at that time, now the money is not there.

However Camp Bling held their ground from day 1 and never gave up. Good on them! They set out to accomplish something and did. I wonder if you can say the same thing?

This town doesn't need more or wider roads. It needs more people to get out of their cars and walking. This small island is choked with pollution, acres upon acres of unsold cars.

Sometimes you need to give credit where credit is due rather than jumping on people who have a cause and stick to it no matter what!

GavtheSpav, Southend says...
3:40pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Sorry SouthendMechanic that we have ruined your quality of life over the last 3/4 years. It must have been really hard for you! How have you coped etc etc...

Jaq, sos says...
4:10pm Wed 24 Jun 09

I struggle to understand the logic behind the constant
"dole sponger" stereotype, I had the pleasure of walking around Basildon town centre this lunch break, and from the pram pushing teen mums n dads and various other often obese and loud obvious non workers, smoking away and shopping for clubbing outfits whilst their kids screamed that i encountered i can only assume that there is a far easier way to live off the state than being at bling, ive said this many times before, and nobody cares to answer, maybe a few of you can now.... Rik? : why would we choose to live there if we had access to housing benefits and incomes support to get us housed, why in this day of the nanny state would we not claim benefits for a cosy flat if all we wanted was to freeload?

As for our assumed need to get a wash....mmmmm well Don it might interest you to know my oh so corporate employer kindly subsidised by membership of an expensive health club in Southend throughout my time at Bling, so you see some of those who insulted our lack of hygeine probably shared my bathtub in the jacuzzi! oh dear is that bubbles or pikey dust?

Maybe ill give up campaigning to keep what little green space we have left for you people and your kids to enjoy, and take up politics instead, ive heard the perks are very good and the and the public vilification nothing compared to Bling!

fletch12107, southchurch says...
4:45pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Why do you protesters take it upon yourselves to speak for all of us? We have a democratic way of deciding what we want and that is done at election time. I am sick of all you minority groups getting your own way. So from now on all you ethnic gay disabled whale and seal loving tree huggers....DO ONE.

bumper, sorry its not my town or village says...
4:54pm Wed 24 Jun 09

pitty dale farm dont take a leaf out of there book and do the same move on .

Mildlyconservative, Southchurch Village says...
4:55pm Wed 24 Jun 09

That's it Camp Bling. You move on ....................
....................
...............There
's a good chap..............

Jaq, sos says...
4:57pm Wed 24 Jun 09

fletch do you really believe that, given the state of our current democracy? I really wish we were a minority group like those you mention, we would then get plenty of Govt hand outs and anti discrimination protection from the kind of abuse we have to take!

The numer of petitions, letters and other objections to this road , not to mention Echo polls etc proved beyond doubt that the majority of local people did not want the road, so seeing it cancelled is democracy and the will of the people in force!

Mildlyconservative, Southchurch Village says...
5:08pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Stop kidding yourself Jaq. There's a good chap, on your way now.....

Partyboy2, Southchurch village says...
5:09pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Jaq wrote:
fletch do you really believe that, given the state of our current democracy? I really wish we were a minority group like those you mention, we would then get plenty of Govt hand outs and anti discrimination protection from the kind of abuse we have to take! The numer of petitions, letters and other objections to this road , not to mention Echo polls etc proved beyond doubt that the majority of local people did not want the road, so seeing it cancelled is democracy and the will of the people in force!
Did the number of people driving past shouting abuse at you not tell you that the majority of people didnt want you there stinking the place out? The only reason there were more letters of objection was because of all the non working, non driving folk who actually have the time to write letters and camp in trees. I think you would find 'average Joe' would prefer a faster route into and out of Southend meaning they could get to work and back quicker and maybe improve their quality of life slightly.

TaoMark, Southend says...
5:49pm Wed 24 Jun 09

For all those anti-camp people who claim that the Blingers do not represent them - they probably don't. But they do represent a large amount of people whose views oppose your own. If you want your voice to be heard, make an effort (Fletch, I'm talking to you). That's what democracy means. All the opinion polls, objections, etc have been massively against the road scheme. Or is it a case of those for the road couldn't be bothered to voice their opinion. In which case, stop complaining. It's like not bothering to vote then complaining about how the country is won.
But why don't you all carry on with your self-focused, patronising, misinformed and ego-centric comments, as long as it makes you feel big and clever.

firedog, Southend-on-sea says...
7:30pm Wed 24 Jun 09

I am afraid the protesters confused me,was it to stop the road through Priory Park? save the trees? save the Saxon burial ground?Stop the road widening? or what.
PS I bet if they lived west of priory cresent and needed the fire brigade in a hurry they would want a wider road.

Grey hair of leigh, on Sea says...
7:44pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Ah well looks like it will have to be the northern bypass for Southend then, once the economy improves that is. The interchange on the A130 has been built for a while now at Rettenden. Well how often do councils build a massive dual carriage way bridge to nowhere. The earth works on the SWF side seem a bit strange but all will be revealed when they complete it. There was a date to start the road but I don't doubt it has now been put back for a few years.

fletch12107, southchurch says...
7:50pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Jaq wrote:
fletch do you really believe that, given the state of our current democracy? I really wish we were a minority group like those you mention, we would then get plenty of Govt hand outs and anti discrimination protection from the kind of abuse we have to take! The numer of petitions, letters and other objections to this road , not to mention Echo polls etc proved beyond doubt that the majority of local people did not want the road, so seeing it cancelled is democracy and the will of the people in force!
You people who squatted on the land known as camp bling were a minority in every sense of the word. You cant quote figures about polls and letters of objections because there are no figures so do not use that as a reason for being on that land illegally. You were a few people who didn't think that widening a road was in YOUR best interest and had the time to sit around spouting YOUR take on things. Perhaps the reason the state of our democracy is not all it should be is down to your minority group and others like taking matters into your own hands.

TaoMark, Southend says...
8:32pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Fletch, for someone who posts on an Echo site, you seem to have missed the polls conducted by this paper. If you want figures, the ones that have been published and you seem to have overlooked, just ask. I'm sure they have archives or something. Similarly, the council and department for transport will have a record of all objections and it's your democratic right to find out the figures. So don't use the lame and incorrect excuse that there are no figures, because there are. Just involves getting off your bum and asking.

TaoMark, Southend says...
8:54pm Wed 24 Jun 09

And Firedog, the aim of the camp was not only all of those things you mentioned but also to showcase sustainable living and alternative energies. The camp maintained a visitors centre with all that info - anyone who wanted to know the site's aims only had to go there, or visit their website. Www.campbling.org

Francis Grubb, Westcliff says...
9:54pm Wed 24 Jun 09

The Priory Park road would have simply shifted the traffic bottleneck to the roundabouts at either end of it. It was an unbelievably expensive non-starter from day 1, unworthy of even a penny of taxpayers' funds.

Well done Camp Bling - you stopped what common sense failed to do.

Frank

tommyp, Southend on Sea says...
10:21pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Slightly off topic, but can someone let me know what has happened to 'Ginger' the cat?
I live very close to Camp Bling, and for the last few weeks a collarless ginger cat keeps visiting me for food.
Just checking he is being taken care of.

fletch12107, southchurch says...
5:54am Thu 25 Jun 09

TaoMark it is not me who is using the " figures to justify why the law was broken by tresspassing" and as there are over 100k people living in the borough I doubt very much if 50k objected.

southendmechanic, southend on sea says...
6:49am Thu 25 Jun 09

gav that site is the first thing anyone who coes to visit me see. it never even looked tidy or organised and had so any banners it gave a very mixed message as to what the protest was about. Keith came on here the other day going on about this controlled burn when the truth was it was a plain bonfire which anything that would burn was chucked on. Dont you personally believe that the article in the echo had been constructed with misleading facts about how everything was being recycled to avoid land fill and save pollution. the site has had several skips over the last few months which materials from do get dispossed of in land fill. you have been given ample and generous time to clean up and leave which should have been long enough to arrange things better for the removal and diposal of all structures. hurry up because all the dog walkers in southend are so excited that once you have gone their dogs will have somewhere else to go to toilet!!

GavtheSpav, Southend says...
10:30am Thu 25 Jun 09

Dont worry SouthendMechanic we'll be out of your hair real soon! You really are a miserable creature aren't you? (and your grammar needs improving)

TaoMark, Southend says...
10:36am Thu 25 Jun 09

Fletch, you're assuming then that every single person in the borough would have voiced their opinion, of for against? That'll be the day! The vast majority of anti-road opinions were taken from the people that bothered to voice their opinion.

And southendmechanic, the site clearance hasn't been completed yet. Why not save your comments until after they've finished, then see what the site looks like compared to what it was before the blingers moved in. Or can anyone remember what an eyesore it was then?

DannyK86, Leigh says...
10:54am Thu 25 Jun 09

TaoMark wrote:
Fletch, for someone who posts on an Echo site, you seem to have missed the polls conducted by this paper. If you want figures, the ones that have been published and you seem to have overlooked, just ask. I'm sure they have archives or something. Similarly, the council and department for transport will have a record of all objections and it's your democratic right to find out the figures. So don't use the lame and incorrect excuse that there are no figures, because there are. Just involves getting off your bum and asking.
It's well known that people who actually respond to newspaper polls are those more likely to have negative views (e.g. if the Daily Mail has a poll saying 'what do you think about immigrants?', it's not exactly going to be balanced is it?).

Leave decisions on roads to professionals from planning and highways services.

GavtheSpav, Southend says...
10:58am Thu 25 Jun 09

TommyP, Hi there, so in true pussycat style he gets fed at several different places. Does he always pretend he's starving and not fed in days 'coz that's what he does to us (and then leaves half his plate anyway)! We've been looking after him for the past two and a bit years or so, he liked it so much here he thought he'd move in! We really rather he didnt cross that road but hey what do you do? We were going to take him with us???


TaoMark, Southend says...
11:10am Thu 25 Jun 09

DannyK86 wrote:
TaoMark wrote:
Fletch, for someone who posts on an Echo site, you seem to have missed the polls conducted by this paper. If you want figures, the ones that have been published and you seem to have overlooked, just ask. I'm sure they have archives or something. Similarly, the council and department for transport will have a record of all objections and it's your democratic right to find out the figures. So don't use the lame and incorrect excuse that there are no figures, because there are. Just involves getting off your bum and asking.
It's well known that people who actually respond to newspaper polls are those more likely to have negative views (e.g. if the Daily Mail has a poll saying 'what do you think about immigrants?', it's not exactly going to be balanced is it?).

Leave decisions on roads to professionals from planning and highways services.
As opposed to people who live in the area, you mean? In that case, why don't we just let the council buy up all the land that isn't theirs and build what they like on it? Second homes for all the politicians perhaps? In this current climate of sponging, nest-feathering MPs, are you really suggesting that they are the only people who can be trusted to make a decision that isn't self-serving?

Should we conveniently forget things like council members sitting on the board of directors for a company responsible for regenerating Southend through building developments paid for with public money and authorised by...hang on, the council! What a perfect example of why we SHOULDN'T blindly accept what they tell us is for the best. Roll over and bark to their tune, that's a good boy!

A lot of people have mentioned the legality of the blinger's residence on the land yet conveniently overlook the fact that the land doesn't belong to the council either. Didn't stop them wanting to build a road over it though!

farnishk, says...
11:47am Thu 25 Jun 09

SM, I don't know about the particular fire you are talking about, but I do know that those involved in the main fires took specialist advice on reducing smoke for the busy tatting-down period (in May) because so much unusable stuff had been donated over the 4 years. As I said, the fire brigade had no problems with the burns, neither did the police or the council.

As for the skips, there are some things you can't recycle or burn. Yes, there was a lot of stuff on site and a fair few structures, but just because it wasn't all neatly lined up in a row like so many Wimpy clone homes with block-paved driveways, two cars and a manicured lawn, it is deemed "offensive" by those who have been conditioned only to trust what the dominant culture tells us is right.

Not sure if links work here, but I'll try: here is a free book that I would encourage you to read - it says a lot more than I could fit in here:

www.amatterofscale.c
om

farnishk, says...
11:48am Thu 25 Jun 09

Nope, links don't work. Here is the url:

http://www.amatterof
scale.com

DannyK86, Leigh says...
11:56am Thu 25 Jun 09

"Yes, there was a lot of stuff on site and a fair few structures, but just because it wasn't all neatly lined up in a row like so many Wimpy clone homes with block-paved driveways, two cars and a manicured lawn, it is deemed "offensive" by those who have been conditioned only to trust what the dominant culture tells us is right."


I'm all for buildings having a bit of character, but reconstructing inner-city Nairobi isn't necessarily the best way to go about it!

farnishk, says...
2:46pm Thu 25 Jun 09

Well, it was always meant to be temporary, Danny, and has left a minimal impact on the ground. Nature always found its way under and in the structures. There was also a strict "no tents" rule, which really helped keep things in order. Also, don't forget that these were *very* small living spaces by civilised standards; the inside was worn out, as it were. No back gardens, lofts or garages to stow stuff away in. I think, all things considered, it was a pretty tidy place.

Soozie, Southend on sea says...
4:07pm Thu 25 Jun 09

farnishk wrote:
Well, it was always meant to be temporary, Danny, and has left a minimal impact on the ground. Nature always found its way under and in the structures. There was also a strict "no tents" rule, which really helped keep things in order. Also, don't forget that these were *very* small living spaces by civilised standards; the inside was worn out, as it were. No back gardens, lofts or garages to stow stuff away in. I think, all things considered, it was a pretty tidy place.
I can't see you leaving the place in bad shape...after all it would defeat part of why you were there.

Ignore those who seem hell on continuing on with their vitriol.

You all can certainly walk away with your heads held high about what you accomplished.

Well done Camp Blingers!

Mildlyconservative, Southchurch Village says...
5:26pm Thu 25 Jun 09

Go go away Camp Blingers and those from the minority who supported them. Here come the dozers

Quercus, Westcliff on Sea says...
6:22pm Thu 25 Jun 09

> Here come the dozers

Do you mean all those people in denial who are sleepwalking into the post-peak oil age?

DannyK86, Leigh says...
12:04pm Fri 26 Jun 09

Quercus wrote:
> Here come the dozers Do you mean all those people in denial who are sleepwalking into the post-peak oil age?
Regardless of the decline of oil as a fuel and commodity, we will still need cars in future. Already we're seeing a huge shift towards more fuel-efficient cars and petrol/electric hybrids. Over the next 2 decades hybrids, electric cars and )hopefully) hydrogen fuel cell cars are going to become more and more common and should replace petrol vehicles. People are still going to need to get about and it's evident that public transport infrastructure is going to be woefully ill-equipped for a long time yet. Hence building more roads is not necessarily a dead end in terms of sustainable transport - think abotu the future rather than the now!

farnishk, says...
1:08pm Fri 26 Jun 09

Where's the hydrogen going to come from, Danny?

The system doesn't want to change (we don't want to change), which is why we still think we *need* cars. Reality check: we *want* cars, and foreign holidays, and plasma screens, and patio heaters, and cheap clothes, and cheap food, and cheap lives. It's all we have known because it's rammed down our throats, in our ears and in our eyes from birth.

No wonder people get angry when an alternative is suggested...

DannyK86, Leigh says...
1:33pm Fri 26 Jun 09

The hydrogen will come from seawater, and it's an emerging technology. People do not 'think' they want a decent standard of living. Why shouldn't a normal, hard-working family aspire to a nice holiday once or twice a year and affordable creature comforts?

It seems you want us all to return to some form of non-existent pre-industrial idyll in which everybody danced around maypoles and never had to worry about being hungry or cold. As a former fellow ex-geography student (I've been doing my homework on you!) you should know that living conditions were hard and life expenctancies low.

Evidently you're some sort of doom-mongering neo-Malthusian and underestimate the power of the human spirit of innovation. Yes, you raise important issues about the importance of sustainable development, but you seem to think that it would be possible for everybody on a global scale to live like people in Camp Bling (hint: the computer you're evidently using for your internet campaigns wouldn't exist if it weren't for the industrialisation of the developing world).

As a geographer I'd also have expected you to have a more global view, with the realisation that if carbon emissions and resource consumption are to be curbed, there are far bigger global players that need to be acted against rather than the UK.

Not trying to attack you, but just wondering why you hold some overly simplistic views when you're clearly quite an educated person.

Tone-Fu, Southchurch says...
2:45pm Fri 26 Jun 09

And the award for biggest knob-head goes to?

Also, for the record, it's:

"You'll Never Walk Alone"

YNWA.

Annyetta, Westcliff-on-Sea says...
7:46am Sat 27 Jun 09

I have to say I really admire all you guys and gals in Camp Bling. My understanding is that you stood up for what you believed in and made sacrifices for your cause. There are not many people who have the guts and the gumption to do that... oh maybe a signature here or there or firing off the odd email or letter. I bow before you. Thank you.

I would love to think we lived in a democratic country but alas, it is not true. You only have to look at the local council's policies on planning permission. Unless democracy means those with the largest amount of money & power win the day! I live very close to two seafront buildings which despite being opposed, have sailed through planning, brown envelopes exchanged no doubt!




southendmechanic, southend on sea says...
4:59pm Sat 27 Jun 09

the sacrifice of living on a peice of land rent free. I am so pleased that they are going and the development of prittlebrook industrial estate can now go ahead and help fund the improvements to this junction

farnishk, says...
2:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09

Danni: "The hydrogen will come from seawater"

And what will power the cathodic reaction to produce the hydrogen?

Please read what you just said, Danni. If everyone lived like the people on Bling then humanity might stand a chance of survival - think about the difference in energy requirements, building materials, consumer goods, food (virtually everything freshly cooked in bulk), water (strictly rationed for washing, drinking and cooking only) etc. Compare this to the average civilised person.

I have no idea where you got the impression I was only interested in the UK - I just happen to live here. But at least you read the blurb on my web site (not exactly homework).

Oh, and if there wasn't a global problem, I wouldn't need to use the internet - but there is, so I do. I would love it to be otherwise, but given how much the establishment owns global communications, it would be idiotic not to use the same tools to fight back.

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