Who’s dumping dead foxes in our street? (From Echo)

Nebs wrote:
Maybe if it was an offence to feed the foxes then there would be slightly less of them, and they would not cause the nusiance that some people experience.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:
Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon.

Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas.

They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds.
So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations.

Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:
Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon.

Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas.

They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds.
So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations.

Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!!
I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

ilovelife wrote:
Foxes are vermin who cares who killed them. Give the guy a medal and tell him to keep up the good work.

buttonbaggins wrote:
I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

jeancc wrote:
i discovered that we had a fox den in our garden 3 years ago,have seen many cubs,and yes there are several of us that feed them
they get on well with the local cats,infact when i put a chicken carcas out for the foxes a local cat that has claimed my garden take turns in feeding theres no fighting over it,and a fox doesnt mess in its own garden been no trouble at all,only one year the cubs chewed a paddling pool id left out,theres about 10 cats local to me and they never got into fights with foxes,the cats tease them a bit but thats all,foxes are good at keeping rats away good cleaning up machines,long live the fox!

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

ilovelife wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

Are you some kind of idiot? Do you not watch the news or read newspapers? There are proven cases of foxes attacking humans. For example the fox that attacked the two twins asleep in their cot, that have been scarred for life. You should do some reseach before you post so called facts on here.

shoebury asbo wrote:

jeancc wrote: i discovered that we had a fox den in our garden 3 years ago,have seen many cubs,and yes there are several of us that feed them they get on well with the local cats,infact when i put a chicken carcas out for the foxes a local cat that has claimed my garden take turns in feeding theres no fighting over it,and a fox doesnt mess in its own garden been no trouble at all,only one year the cubs chewed a paddling pool id left out,theres about 10 cats local to me and they never got into fights with foxes,the cats tease them a bit but thats all,foxes are good at keeping rats away good cleaning up machines,long live the fox!

no it just craps all over your neighbour's garden. definitely the prize winner for stupidest post of the day

shoebury asbo wrote:
lets hope all the fox lovers here contract rabies from their "pets"

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

shoebury asbo wrote:
lets hope all the fox lovers here contract rabies from their "pets"

There is no rabies in the UK.

Mary Lou wrote:
Never mind foxes, what about the poor slugs and snails. Gardeners slaughter these in millions. However, as they don't look cute nobody gives a toss. You are just a bunch of hypocrites.
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And don't get me started on germs, what are just trying to multiply, you don't feed them do you!!!
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People splash bleach on these poor creatures damaging the environment as well as murdering 99.9 percent of them.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

ilovelife wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

Are you some kind of idiot? Do you not watch the news or read newspapers? There are proven cases of foxes attacking humans. For example the fox that attacked the two twins asleep in their cot, that have been scarred for life. You should do some reseach before you post so called facts on here.

I have done my research, it is you who has not. It was ALLEGED that a fox attacked the Koupparis twins. NO-ONE saw a fox attack the twins. NO-ONE saw a fox biting the twins. We are also supposed to believe that a fox walked past a barbecue, past people, through a kitchen with food laying out in the open, and made it's way upstairs looking for babies to eat. Seriously, open your eyes. It is also not mentioned that Nick Koupparis owns a dog, there are pictures of him with it on his Facebook profile, but funnily enough that was not mentioned in the media. Also Nick Koupparis is a director of a TV media company. As I said, the right-wing media are deliberately running anti-fox scare stories to whip up anti-fox hysteria in order to pave the way for Cameron's vote on repealing the Hunting Act.

Alekhine wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

ilovelife wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

Are you some kind of idiot? Do you not watch the news or read newspapers? There are proven cases of foxes attacking humans. For example the fox that attacked the two twins asleep in their cot, that have been scarred for life. You should do some reseach before you post so called facts on here.

I have done my research, it is you who has not. It was ALLEGED that a fox attacked the Koupparis twins. NO-ONE saw a fox attack the twins. NO-ONE saw a fox biting the twins. We are also supposed to believe that a fox walked past a barbecue, past people, through a kitchen with food laying out in the open, and made it's way upstairs looking for babies to eat. Seriously, open your eyes. It is also not mentioned that Nick Koupparis owns a dog, there are pictures of him with it on his Facebook profile, but funnily enough that was not mentioned in the media. Also Nick Koupparis is a director of a TV media company. As I said, the right-wing media are deliberately running anti-fox scare stories to whip up anti-fox hysteria in order to pave the way for Cameron's vote on repealing the Hunting Act.

Are you seriously suggesting that the family dog attacked the babies, and the family protected the dog by blaming a fox? From what i head the babies lost half their faces.
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So now they have still the same dog and the same babies together?
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People get all uptight about killing foxes but if a dog had done this it would have been dead before it could blink, probably with a spade in its skull.

R85 wrote:
So from the sounds of it people dislike them purely and simply because they were never domesticated? We domesticated dogs and we love them, even though they are much more vicious and likely to attack than a fox??!?! Makes sense doesn’t it! Again both dogs and foxes are from the same family anyway. What is the difference? If a cat, dog or a fox attacks a human they should be put down. No one more than the other. We still have to give most of our pets immunisations and what not, if we did this with a fox and made sure it was kept clean etc….. Why couldn’t we have them as a pet? Why didn’t we domesticate them millennia ago?

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

ilovelife wrote: Foxes are vermin who cares who killed them. Give the guy a medal and tell him to keep up the good work.

Which makes your username somewhat ironic, if not hypocritical.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote: Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon. Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas. They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds. So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations. Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!! I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

Foxes are not vermin. They are wildlife. It is only those who want a return to the primitive barbarity of hunting with dogs who promote the idea that the fox is 'vermin'. If a fox took your rabbits then perhaps you could have built better protection. Don't forget, a fox is just being a fox, it does not act out of malice. If the opportunity is there, it will take it. We can keep lions in safari parks without them getting to the gazelles, so it isn't that difficult to keep a fox away from chickens and rabbits.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:
"vermin: a noxious or troublesome animal that carries disease and are difficult to control. Sounds very much like a fox to me!!" Sounds more like the human race to me.

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote: Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon. Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas. They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds. So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations. Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!! I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

Foxes are not vermin. They are wildlife. It is only those who want a return to the primitive barbarity of hunting with dogs who promote the idea that the fox is 'vermin'. If a fox took your rabbits then perhaps you could have built better protection. Don't forget, a fox is just being a fox, it does not act out of malice. If the opportunity is there, it will take it. We can keep lions in safari parks without them getting to the gazelles, so it isn't that difficult to keep a fox away from chickens and rabbits.

vermin: a noxious or troublesome animal that carries disease and are difficult to control. Sounds very much like a fox to me!!

It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was.

As for Lions not attacking other animals in Zoo's maybe not but foxes do, Oct 2010 foxes were caught on CCTV killing penguins.

Like I said I'm happy to live with Urban foxes, (Vermin), So long as they dont excrete all over my front step and driveway, and so long as they dont continue to kill my animals, (Pets), and so long as they dont dig out my plant pots and the lawns. Otherwise I'm happy!!!

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote: Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon. Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas. They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds. So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations. Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!! I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

Foxes are not vermin. They are wildlife. It is only those who want a return to the primitive barbarity of hunting with dogs who promote the idea that the fox is 'vermin'. If a fox took your rabbits then perhaps you could have built better protection. Don't forget, a fox is just being a fox, it does not act out of malice. If the opportunity is there, it will take it. We can keep lions in safari parks without them getting to the gazelles, so it isn't that difficult to keep a fox away from chickens and rabbits.

vermin: a noxious or troublesome animal that carries disease and are difficult to control. Sounds very much like a fox to me!! It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was. As for Lions not attacking other animals in Zoo's maybe not but foxes do, Oct 2010 foxes were caught on CCTV killing penguins. Like I said I'm happy to live with Urban foxes, (Vermin), So long as they dont excrete all over my front step and driveway, and so long as they dont continue to kill my animals, (Pets), and so long as they dont dig out my plant pots and the lawns. Otherwise I'm happy!!!

"It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was." So she says. As I said previously, NO-ONE ELSE saw a fox in the Koupparis' house. See my previous post on this matter.

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote: Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon. Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas. They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds. So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations. Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!! I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

Foxes are not vermin. They are wildlife. It is only those who want a return to the primitive barbarity of hunting with dogs who promote the idea that the fox is 'vermin'. If a fox took your rabbits then perhaps you could have built better protection. Don't forget, a fox is just being a fox, it does not act out of malice. If the opportunity is there, it will take it. We can keep lions in safari parks without them getting to the gazelles, so it isn't that difficult to keep a fox away from chickens and rabbits.

vermin: a noxious or troublesome animal that carries disease and are difficult to control. Sounds very much like a fox to me!! It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was. As for Lions not attacking other animals in Zoo's maybe not but foxes do, Oct 2010 foxes were caught on CCTV killing penguins. Like I said I'm happy to live with Urban foxes, (Vermin), So long as they dont excrete all over my front step and driveway, and so long as they dont continue to kill my animals, (Pets), and so long as they dont dig out my plant pots and the lawns. Otherwise I'm happy!!!

"It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was." So she says. As I said previously, NO-ONE ELSE saw a fox in the Koupparis' house. See my previous post on this matter.

I give up!! Man didnt land on the moon either it was just hearsay and clever FX.

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

MrSmithers wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote: Whoever the deeply disturbed and sick individual is that is doing this, they need to be found, soon. Foxes are harmless, indigenous British wildlife, and nice to see in urban areas. They eat small rodents, like mice and rats. They also eat rabbits if they can catch them, they will also eat eggs and birds. So culling foxes will increase rat and mouse populations. Culling foxes DOES NOT WORK. Foxes are territorial, and their numbers are self regulating, too many foxes and the excess die out due to lack of food, too few and they will breed to fill the territory. Kill a fox, and another will simply move into it's territory.

Yes you are partly correct but Urben foxes have learnt or should I say unlearnt the art of catching game, why!! because people feed the bloody things and there is no need for them to waste energy chasing rodents. And yes your right they do eat rabbits I had two snatched by a fox, they actually ripped the cage apart to get to it, and also tore through a fence to get in. And yes again they are self regulating and territorial but all the time food is aplenty because people continue to feed them, the population will continue to grow!! I'm not condoning the actions of whoever is killing them, (more so those who are feeding and encouraging them), but if it is to be done then it should be done in the proper manner by skilled vermin control officers, and culling does work if its done on a yearly basis, how do I know this, beacuse I work very closely with farmers in my line of work and since the ban on hunting with dogs they have seen a two fold increase in fox's.

Foxes are not vermin. They are wildlife. It is only those who want a return to the primitive barbarity of hunting with dogs who promote the idea that the fox is 'vermin'. If a fox took your rabbits then perhaps you could have built better protection. Don't forget, a fox is just being a fox, it does not act out of malice. If the opportunity is there, it will take it. We can keep lions in safari parks without them getting to the gazelles, so it isn't that difficult to keep a fox away from chickens and rabbits.

vermin: a noxious or troublesome animal that carries disease and are difficult to control. Sounds very much like a fox to me!! It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was. As for Lions not attacking other animals in Zoo's maybe not but foxes do, Oct 2010 foxes were caught on CCTV killing penguins. Like I said I'm happy to live with Urban foxes, (Vermin), So long as they dont excrete all over my front step and driveway, and so long as they dont continue to kill my animals, (Pets), and so long as they dont dig out my plant pots and the lawns. Otherwise I'm happy!!!

"It wasnt hearsay when the mother of the twins reported a fox was to blame for harming the twins, she was confronted with the **** thing in the bedroom where the twins were, it ran past her to escape, surely close enough for anyone to determin what the animal was." So she says. As I said previously, NO-ONE ELSE saw a fox in the Koupparis' house. See my previous post on this matter.

I give up!! Man didnt land on the moon either it was just hearsay and clever FX.

Trainman wrote:
I read the first couple of postings, but couldn't be bothered with the rest. LIKE us humans, the fox does NOT ask to be born, so WHY kill such a Beautiful creature? I would LOVE to have one as a pet, but this will never be, as I prefer them to live as Nature intended them to and in the wild.

Mary Lou wrote:

Trainman wrote: I read the first couple of postings, but couldn't be bothered with the rest. LIKE us humans, the fox does NOT ask to be born, so WHY kill such a Beautiful creature? I would LOVE to have one as a pet, but this will never be, as I prefer them to live as Nature intended them to and in the wild.

If you use bleach then you are a hypocrite.

Mary Lou wrote:

Trainman wrote:
I read the first couple of postings, but couldn't be bothered with the rest. LIKE us humans, the fox does NOT ask to be born, so WHY kill such a Beautiful creature? I would LOVE to have one as a pet, but this will never be, as I prefer them to live as Nature intended them to and in the wild.

If you use bleach then you are a hypocrite.

Richter wrote:
I understand the need to keep the levels of so called pests down. But as people have said on here. Foxes are part of the dog family. I could not bring myself to kill a dog even if it needed to do it. Remember it's never the foxes fault. It's just its nature. Us humans do worst to each other and the world. so does that mean we need to put down or culled??

shoebury asbo wrote:
shoebury cyclist. do you have a garden? do foxes dig holes randomly in your lawn? do they dig up your flowerbeds? do they dig up any plants in pots? do they schitt regularly on your decking? do they tunnel under your fence? do they scare your pets schittless? i guess the answer to all those questions is no because youre the idiot in your street that feeds them.

Mary Lou wrote:
Why would a Saarffend fox bother chasing a rat or a grey squirrel, presumably it doesn't eat the red ones because they are too spicy.
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The rubbish bags and bins in the town are chock full of goodies curries, KF chicken, chinese, chips, burgers, etc.
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In fact apart from the odd pet cat, bunny or guinea pig I doubt if an urban fox has had a natural meal in all it's life.

emcee wrote:

Richter wrote: I understand the need to keep the levels of so called pests down. But as people have said on here. Foxes are part of the dog family. I could not bring myself to kill a dog even if it needed to do it. Remember it's never the foxes fault. It's just its nature. Us humans do worst to each other and the world. so does that mean we need to put down or culled??

And rats are of the same family as hamsters. I think people are missing the point of the original article. Foxes can be killed legally (as long as it's not with a pack of hounds), and that is what has happened. Whether it is right or wrong is not important. I, personally, find foxes to be a pain in backside and would not miss them in my garden. However, the issue here is not about the killing foxes but about fly tipping (plenty of flies around the rotting corpses) and the council's incompetancy in removing the pile of dead animals. It is the council who are compounding the health hazzard by not removing them as soon as they appear.

ilovelife wrote:
Shoeburycyclist- Why on earth are you so obsessed with foxes? No-one on here feels the passion or the love you have for foxes. As stated previously they are nothing but a pest, but worse than that they attack humans and regularly kill pets. You need to get a grip and worry about more important things in life. No-one is going to miss any dead foxes other than you. Im off fox hunting now bye bye.

Nebs wrote:
Why is it seen as acceptable for foxes to hunt mice and birds, but not acceptable for dogs to hunt foxes?

mr_happy wrote:
We had a fox round our way about 12 years ago. It turned up every morning at about 4.00am. It would sit on a fence a couple of houses away and scream at the top of it's voice. This went on for weeks. I and a few others called the council and the RSPCA and they would do nothing. Well I waited for it one night and shot it. You will now all think I am horrid, but it was quick and we all slept after. And before you all try and hunt me down or call the police. It was a high powered air rifle, and the police knew that I had it.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

mr_happy wrote:
We had a fox round our way about 12 years ago. It turned up every morning at about 4.00am. It would sit on a fence a couple of houses away and scream at the top of it's voice. This went on for weeks. I and a few others called the council and the RSPCA and they would do nothing. Well I waited for it one night and shot it. You will now all think I am horrid, but it was quick and we all slept after. And before you all try and hunt me down or call the police. It was a high powered air rifle, and the police knew that I had it.

Beside the fact that you think it is acceptable to kill a harmless creature purely because it makes a noise, do you have a licence to fire a weapon in a public place?
Also do you know anything about all the pet cats in the Southend area that have been shot with a high powered air rifle recently?

mr_happy wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

mr_happy wrote:
We had a fox round our way about 12 years ago. It turned up every morning at about 4.00am. It would sit on a fence a couple of houses away and scream at the top of it's voice. This went on for weeks. I and a few others called the council and the RSPCA and they would do nothing. Well I waited for it one night and shot it. You will now all think I am horrid, but it was quick and we all slept after. And before you all try and hunt me down or call the police. It was a high powered air rifle, and the police knew that I had it.

Beside the fact that you think it is acceptable to kill a harmless creature purely because it makes a noise, do you have a licence to fire a weapon in a public place?
Also do you know anything about all the pet cats in the Southend area that have been shot with a high powered air rifle recently?

The gun was used from my garden, and as I said, the police knew that I owned it. Shooting cats and other animals for fun, kicks or a laugh is another thing. I love animals and I have a cat, The cat belonging to the people a few doors away went missing. A few days later, the little girl found it's head. It had been got by a fox. So dont give me all that stuff about killing an animal just because it is making a noise. It kept my neighbour up who was an ambulance driver. She was getting very tired as she could not sleep. How would it be if she was involved in a accident because of the fox keeping her from sleeping. All my neighbours thanked me. Job done because no one else (RSPCA and council could be bothered).

Ivanna Goodhump wrote:
Killing foxes isn't illegal and foxes are vermin.
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If anyone doesn't think we're overrun with these things, take a drive down London Road (or any other) in the early hours of the morning - you'll see literally dozens of them scavenging.
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Lets hope plenty more get culled - whoever is doing this deserves a pat on the back.

ilovelife wrote:
Very much doubt there would be a kid up at 4.00am. Fair play to the man for killing the fox, it was disturbing his sleep. People need sleep to function properly. Man has been killing animals of all kinds since time began. Its not going to stop now. I suppose your going to try stop the grand national this year cause a horse might die.

ilovelife wrote:
Shoeburycyclist- Why on earth are you so obsessed with foxes? No-one on here feels the passion or the love you have for foxes. As stated previously they are nothing but a pest, but worse than that they attack humans and regularly kill pets. You need to get a grip and worry about more important things in life. No-one is going to miss any dead foxes other than you. Im off fox hunting now bye bye.

Ivanna Goodhump wrote:
Killing foxes isn't illegal and foxes are vermin.
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If anyone doesn't think we're overrun with these things, take a drive down London Road (or any other) in the early hours of the morning - you'll see literally dozens of them scavenging.
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Lets hope plenty more get culled - whoever is doing this deserves a pat on the back.

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

mr_happy wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

mr_happy wrote: We had a fox round our way about 12 years ago. It turned up every morning at about 4.00am. It would sit on a fence a couple of houses away and scream at the top of it's voice. This went on for weeks. I and a few others called the council and the RSPCA and they would do nothing. Well I waited for it one night and shot it. You will now all think I am horrid, but it was quick and we all slept after. And before you all try and hunt me down or call the police. It was a high powered air rifle, and the police knew that I had it.

Beside the fact that you think it is acceptable to kill a harmless creature purely because it makes a noise, do you have a licence to fire a weapon in a public place? Also do you know anything about all the pet cats in the Southend area that have been shot with a high powered air rifle recently?

The gun was used from my garden, and as I said, the police knew that I owned it. Shooting cats and other animals for fun, kicks or a laugh is another thing. I love animals and I have a cat, The cat belonging to the people a few doors away went missing. A few days later, the little girl found it's head. It had been got by a fox. So dont give me all that stuff about killing an animal just because it is making a noise. It kept my neighbour up who was an ambulance driver. She was getting very tired as she could not sleep. How would it be if she was involved in a accident because of the fox keeping her from sleeping. All my neighbours thanked me. Job done because no one else (RSPCA and council could be bothered).

So you fired a weapon in an area where it could quite easily have hit a child, how responsible. As for your neighbour's cat did anyone see a fox take it? The answer to that will be a resounding, NO. Taking pride and swaggering about as if you're some kind of Afghanistan hero because you killed an innocent animal just because it disturbed someone's sleep is appalling, and makes you look a very, very, small person indeed.

Mark D wrote:
Hmm... a "rouge" fox. Is that as opposed to russet?

Horace Wimpole wrote:
There are "too many" urban foxes because (a) we no longer cull them and (b) we are taking more and more of the land in which they live. It's not hard to understand. Nor do I follow all the hand-wringing about shooting the odd annoying beast: that's life, oodles more die on the roads every week**.


(** and there's ShoeburyCyclist's entry point).

We have never culled urban foxes.

You're right about shooting annoying beasts. How about we start with you?

FOXES ARE NOT VERMIN. PEOPLE ARE VERMIN, and if anyone should be culled it's the person killling these beautiful animals.

Mary Lou wrote:
I love watching them, and the ones I have seen (the most 3 at one time) have never caused any damage whatsoever.
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I have watched my car for years. Never once has it caused bother or damage. I therefore conclude that cars are benign and don't cause any problems. So there.

Cars are just machines, without a human a cars cause very few problems at all

buttonbaggins wrote:
I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

ilovelife wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

Are you some kind of idiot? Do you not watch the news or read newspapers? There are proven cases of foxes attacking humans. For example the fox that attacked the two twins asleep in their cot, that have been scarred for life. You should do some reseach before you post so called facts on here.

Pierwalker wrote:

ilovelife wrote:

ShoeburyCyclist wrote:

buttonbaggins wrote: I dont agree with killing the foxes, unless they have attacked a person or pet. But i also feel that NO ONE should be feeding them. They are after all wild and if you continually feed them they become lazy and loose their instincts to hunt for the correct foods. If you move or stop feeding them they have lost their food supplies, also many people feed them the wrong things which are harmful to them. They are wild animals treat them as such NOT as a pet!!

No fox has EVER killed a person, and there are no PROVEN cases of foxes attacking people. However, many, many, people have been seriously mauled, injured, maimed, and killed by domesticated dogs. By far the most risk of disease from animal faeces in public areas comes from that of domesticated dogs. Yet I see no calls for a cull of dogs. The current hysteria over foxes is being driven by the right-wing media in support of Cameron's promise of a vote to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Not one single anti-fox story has a shred of proof or hard facts. Every story is full of 'heard a fox', 'saw a fox in the area earlier/later in the day' etc. But NEVER 'I actually saw a fox do whatever'.

Are you some kind of idiot? Do you not watch the news or read newspapers? There are proven cases of foxes attacking humans. For example the fox that attacked the two twins asleep in their cot, that have been scarred for life. You should do some reseach before you post so called facts on here.

Was this case actually proven? Wasn't their some suspicion that the family dog or cat was involved?

Horace Wimpole wrote:
bohomiz you sound like a completely humourless arse. You can spout the “bigot” line, be a snob about Essex, do whatever you want… but you still come over as yet another complete and utter feckin ponce.

(No offence).

Oh, by the way, “stationery”? That’s how it’s spelled: “stationery”. “Stationary” is something quite different.

BTW #2: making silly gun jibes makes you look an even bigger c0ck.

(No offence).

Oh well, if we're going to criticise spelling and grammar:

'Stationary' means standing still, not moving, motionless.
Stationery is writing paper etc.
So bohomiz spelt and used the word correctly.

By the way 'spelled' is the American spelling, spelt is the correct British spelling, although in these days of dumbed down everything and the Americanisation of our society, 'spelled' is becoming more commonly used.