Train attack: Boys hand themselves into police (From Echo)
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Train attack: Boys hand themselves into police
2:00pm Thursday 2nd February 2012 in News By Gina Marden
FIVE boys wanted in connection with an attack, where a mum was punched unconscious on a train, have handed themselves in to police.
They voluntarily attended Pitsea police station after the Echo ran CCTV images of five men officers wanted to speak to following the attack on a c2c train from Fenchurch Street.
It is understood the men have not been formally arrested, but were “helping officers with their inquires”.
A police spokeswoman said: “Thanks to an overwhelming response from the public, a number of names were passed to police.
“Following an appeal in the Echo, five men voluntarily attended Pitsea police station earlier this week to assist police with their inquiries.
“The investigation continues.”
It was reported on Friday a 33-year-old woman from Rayleigh was with her partner, a 41-year-old man from Southend, her 14-year-old daughter and her elderly mum when she was punched.
The woman and her partner had asked a group of rowdy yobs on the train to pipe down.
But the thugs began hurling abuse at the couple.
The yobs got off the train at Pitsea, but one of the gang ran back on and punched the woman in the face, knocking her unconscious and to the ground.
The rest of the gang then got back on the train and set upon the woman’s partner, leaving him with a broken finger and cuts to his ear.
After the Echo ran CCTV stills of the gang on Friday, several readers phoned police to pass their names to officers.
One boy, a 16-year-old, arrested near the scene of the incident, remains on bail.
Witnesses to the incident, which happened at 3am on New Year’s Day, can contact transport police on 0800 405040 quoting reference B7/LNA of 04/12/2012.
Comments(39)
Trainman
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2:55pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Brunning999
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2:56pm Thu 2 Feb 12
southendshrimper
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3:59pm Thu 2 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylane
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4:05pm Thu 2 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old
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4:16pm Thu 2 Feb 12
muffindamule
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5:07pm Thu 2 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:boyracer, I will not be provoked into replying to that !
Thats what you get for not keeping your mouth shut. I know you should be able to tell people to quiet down, but the lads were obviously drunk.
naughtyladyofshadylane
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5:11pm Thu 2 Feb 12
AnotherSister
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5:19pm Thu 2 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:So that makes it alright?
Thats what you get for not keeping your mouth shut. I know you should be able to tell people to quiet down, but the lads were obviously drunk.
4King_Ace
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5:46pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Seasider90
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6:03pm Thu 2 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylane
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6:41pm Thu 2 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old
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9:23pm Thu 2 Feb 12
AnotherSister wrote:Well the most sensible for the family to do is move to a different carriage if they didnt want their kids to hear the swearing. I know it was wrong hitting her, but are they really causing any harm by swearing? They caused more harm when she opened her mouth.
boyracer_20yrs old wrote: Thats what you get for not keeping your mouth shut. I know you should be able to tell people to quiet down, but the lads were obviously drunk.So that makes it alright?
naughtyladyofshadylane
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9:33pm Thu 2 Feb 12
MaxSteel
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9:55pm Thu 2 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old
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10:27pm Thu 2 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylaWell lucky it was only a punch. Could of been a knife. Im considering arming as a youth growing up. No intent to use it, but a flash of the knife to someone that is starting to get lairy to you could be enough to make them think twice! Thats what its like in this day and age. I know someone that goes around with a BB gun of a night time to threaten people with it if they start on him.
ne wrote:
why shoud they have to move carriages, they may have had a lot of baggage to move, may have missed the train by getting out!! Are they causing harm by swearing ? most certainly, its causing a breach of the peace , yes? Someone said they were drunk, should not be drunk in a public place. if they cannot sensibly deal with drink, dont partake!
MaxSteel
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10:30pm Thu 2 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylane
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10:48pm Thu 2 Feb 12
resident3
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10:32am Fri 3 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:Please don't arm yourself mate.
naughtyladyofshadyla ne wrote: why shoud they have to move carriages, they may have had a lot of baggage to move, may have missed the train by getting out!! Are they causing harm by swearing ? most certainly, its causing a breach of the peace , yes? Someone said they were drunk, should not be drunk in a public place. if they cannot sensibly deal with drink, dont partake!Well lucky it was only a punch. Could of been a knife. Im considering arming as a youth growing up. No intent to use it, but a flash of the knife to someone that is starting to get lairy to you could be enough to make them think twice! Thats what its like in this day and age. I know someone that goes around with a BB gun of a night time to threaten people with it if they start on him.
You are only one step away from using it, and there is always the possibility that it could be used against you.
Trainman
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4:08pm Fri 3 Feb 12
AnotherSister
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4:36pm Fri 3 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:Why should the family have to be the ones to move when they are behaving (presumably) in a civilised fashion, having their peace and space vilely brutalised by this drunken scum? You might say the hooting, drunken scum have the right to behave like neanderthals, but anyone around them also has the right to ask them to tone their behaviour down a bit without running the risk of any kind of retaliation, be it verbal or physical.
AnotherSister wrote:Well the most sensible for the family to do is move to a different carriage if they didnt want their kids to hear the swearing. I know it was wrong hitting her, but are they really causing any harm by swearing? They caused more harm when she opened her mouth.
boyracer_20yrs old wrote: Thats what you get for not keeping your mouth shut. I know you should be able to tell people to quiet down, but the lads were obviously drunk.So that makes it alright?
I notice further down you are contemplating arming yourself with a knife 'for show' - by doing that you are merely adding to and perpetuating what is an already out of control problem.
AndyBSG
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4:38pm Fri 3 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:And if they're allowed to get away with that sort of behaviour, because people stand aside and 'keep their mouth shut', what sort of message does that send out?
Thats what you get for not keeping your mouth shut. I know you should be able to tell people to quiet down, but the lads were obviously drunk.
"Evil will only win if good people stand by and do nothing"
If more people in this day and age showed a bit of backbone and stood up for what they believe in instead of turning the other cheek or being too frightened to do anything then chav scum like this wouldn't behave this way because they'd know the consequences
Bosniavet
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6:19pm Fri 3 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:Whilst I believe you to a Troll, I will express the hope that you are stopped by the Police when armed, as that will result in a criminal record for you at the very least.....
naughtyladyofshadyla ne wrote: why shoud they have to move carriages, they may have had a lot of baggage to move, may have missed the train by getting out!! Are they causing harm by swearing ? most certainly, its causing a breach of the peace , yes? Someone said they were drunk, should not be drunk in a public place. if they cannot sensibly deal with drink, dont partake!Well lucky it was only a punch. Could of been a knife. Im considering arming as a youth growing up. No intent to use it, but a flash of the knife to someone that is starting to get lairy to you could be enough to make them think twice! Thats what its like in this day and age. I know someone that goes around with a BB gun of a night time to threaten people with it if they start on him.
BIRLIS
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9:19pm Fri 3 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:If you are for real, you encapsulate everything that is wrong in the world.
naughtyladyofshadylaWell lucky it was only a punch. Could of been a knife. Im considering arming as a youth growing up. No intent to use it, but a flash of the knife to someone that is starting to get lairy to you could be enough to make them think twice! Thats what its like in this day and age. I know someone that goes around with a BB gun of a night time to threaten people with it if they start on him.
ne wrote:
why shoud they have to move carriages, they may have had a lot of baggage to move, may have missed the train by getting out!! Are they causing harm by swearing ? most certainly, its causing a breach of the peace , yes? Someone said they were drunk, should not be drunk in a public place. if they cannot sensibly deal with drink, dont partake!
Still, perhaps someone will turn your knife on you...
MaxSteel
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9:38pm Fri 3 Feb 12
muffindamule
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9:59pm Fri 3 Feb 12
chattygirl
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11:56pm Fri 3 Feb 12
not all the facts have been reported, the lads were completely out of order and obviously hitting anyone is wrong and they should be made to pay for their actions , but has anyone asked what made the boys get back on the train ????
AnotherSister
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12:01am Sat 4 Feb 12
chattygirl wrote:Seems like they got back on with the idea of having a major punch-up.
I am shocked by this report particularly as
not all the facts have been reported, the lads were completely out of order and obviously hitting anyone is wrong and they should be made to pay for their actions , but has anyone asked what made the boys get back on the train ????
bazza 1
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11:47am Sat 4 Feb 12
Bosniavet wrote:You are right. He is a Troll, and as such will eventually fall foul of the law. He's sign on is " Boy racer" but he describes himself in his letter as a " Youth, growing up". Well sunshine, you can't be both. If you are twenty years old, you are technically a man. Unfortunately that title can also be used for Numpty's, as well as real men, who would not make innane comments like yours about carrying knives and guns. Grow up " Boy Racer".
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:Whilst I believe you to a Troll, I will express the hope that you are stopped by the Police when armed, as that will result in a criminal record for you at the very least.....
naughtyladyofshadyla ne wrote: why shoud they have to move carriages, they may have had a lot of baggage to move, may have missed the train by getting out!! Are they causing harm by swearing ? most certainly, its causing a breach of the peace , yes? Someone said they were drunk, should not be drunk in a public place. if they cannot sensibly deal with drink, dont partake!Well lucky it was only a punch. Could of been a knife. Im considering arming as a youth growing up. No intent to use it, but a flash of the knife to someone that is starting to get lairy to you could be enough to make them think twice! Thats what its like in this day and age. I know someone that goes around with a BB gun of a night time to threaten people with it if they start on him.
naughtyladyofshadylane
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2:10pm Sat 4 Feb 12
muffindamule
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2:30pm Sat 4 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylaI think it's more to do with the person using a thread pretending to be someone they are not. This is usually for their own entertainment and/or to see and muse at the response they provoke.
ne wrote:
with the risk of sounding vey niaeve, what is a troll ? is it someone who comments for the sake of it ?
naughtyladyofshadylane
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5:31pm Sat 4 Feb 12
R85
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12:06pm Mon 6 Feb 12
naughtyladyofshadylaWell why do you type into the echo website, I never do!? Why don’t you type it into word then copy and paste?
ne wrote:
Thanks, I had this trouble a while ago and I think it was reported to the echo, someone ( a lot of peeps guessed ) had about three different guises, perhaps someone could report this one ? and I know i could not spell naieve, I rely on spellcheck for that word on my computer, but the Echo does not have it!!
Anyway is this woman insane, why in the hell would she possibly do this and not expect anything to happen! A large group of rowdy youths who were probably drinking – Does she think this is 1940?
naughtyladyofshadylane
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12:56pm Mon 6 Feb 12
R85
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4:44pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Cyberpunk
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9:32pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Maybe I'm the coward but I think you have to pick your battles and judge when it is the right time to act.
In this case I would have moved out of earshot.
naughtyladyofshadylane
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10:29pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Southend-er
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3:08pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Boyracer, your kind of attitude gives us younger members of this area a bad reputation, and why so many people feel intimidated on public transport or out in the street. I suggest you open your eyes, and look at the bigger picture. People need to learn the meaning of respect.
best wishes to the lady. x
naughtyladyofshadylane
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5:03pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Bester says...
2:50pm Thu 2 Feb 12
Five MEN. The one who threw the punch was only 16 years old and was arrested 'near the scene of the accident'.
So, the headline of "Boys hand themselves into police" is totally misleading.