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£23million pot to revive UK’s seafronts
10:00am Saturday 11th February 2012 in News By Stephen Hackwell
Eric Pickles – impressed with Southend’s City Beach scheme
A NEW Government cash pot for seaside resorts could help fund the expansion of Southend’s City Beach.
Cabinet minister and Brentwood MP Eric Pickles visited the town yesterday to unveil his coastal communities fund.
The £23.7million pool of cash, divided into grants of up to £2million, will be made available to councils, charities and businesses who want to boost trade and create jobs.
In south Essex, Southend and Canvey could benefit if they bid for the cash.
Although a bid is yet to be drawn up, bosses at Southend Council believe the money could be used as part of a planned £7million expansion of City Beach into Eastern Esplanade.
Mr Pickles, Communities and Local Government Secretary, said: “I think City Beach is fantastic and Southend should be really proud of it.
“I cannot give any guarantees, but projects like that are the sort of things which could be considered for funding.
“I would welcome any bid from Southend.”
The first stage of the City Beach scheme, which was finished last March, included the widening of Marine Parade, the installation of stunning digital lighting columns and water fountains.
The cost of the project – about £7.6million – was met by Government cash.
Before it was even completed, council bosses revealed their intention to expand it eastwards to the derelict Esplanade House site.
The second stage would create wet and dry play areas along the seafront, as well as putting in another six to eight lighting columns.
It would also include improvements to the junction between Marine Parade, Eastern Esplanade and Southchurch Avenue.
Following yesterday’s launch, the council has until the end of March to officially express an interest. It must submit a full bid by September and, if successful, will receive any grant in December. Other projects which could also be considered are plans to build a new pavilion at the pier’s shore end and the £35million cliffs museum scheme.
The fund is also available to charities, voluntary groups and private sector companies.
John Lamb, the council’s Tory deputy leader, said: “City Beach was always envisioned as a two-stage project, and this could provide an ideal opportunity to secure some of the money that would be needed.
“The idea of this fund is exactly right.
“Coastal towns do need more help and we are glad to see this Government providing it.”
Jackie Govier, mayor of Castle Point, welcomed the cash boost for coastal areas.
She said: “Anything that brings money sounds great.
“We are very much going for regeneration on Canvey at the moment and personally I would like to see any funding we could get put towards youth work.
“A new youth centre would be lovely if we could attract the money for it.
“I’m sure the council will discuss it and bid for something.”
Comments(102)
The Cater Wood Creeper
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10:40am Sat 11 Feb 12
Blimey!
Eastwood Biker
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11:35am Sat 11 Feb 12
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
mr_happy
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12:33pm Sat 11 Feb 12
The Cater Wood Creeper
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12:38pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Brunning999
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1:24pm Sat 11 Feb 12
It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!!
Please be serious!!!
The Cater Wood Creeper
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1:26pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Brunning999 wrote:I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!
Southendracer
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3:15pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:no one cares about cycling facility they most proberly spent it one somethink worth the money!
Southend Council had circa £6million to improve cycling facility in the town. To date only about £3.5million is accounted for. Where's the rest SBC?
Southendracer
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3:19pm Sat 11 Feb 12
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak.
Brunning999 wrote:I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!
no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!
ADucksQuack
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3:25pm Sat 11 Feb 12
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
Southendracer
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3:31pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but we in southend dont care about it. just a cause you are going to loose.
Actually quite a lot of people care about cycling facilities:
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
ha ha haaaaaaaaa!
Southendracer
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3:34pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:and look at this, this has to be done
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but we in southend dont care about it. just a cause you are going to loose.
Actually quite a lot of people care about cycling facilities:
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
ha ha haaaaaaaaa!
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/18497
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/2064
about time you cyclist pay to use the roads! its so funny
Southendracer
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3:36pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:you want bike lanes you should pay for them like other drivers do.
Southendracer wrote:and look at this, this has to be done
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but we in southend dont care about it. just a cause you are going to loose.
Actually quite a lot of people care about cycling facilities:
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
ha ha haaaaaaaaa!
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/18497
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/2064
about time you cyclist pay to use the roads! its so funny
people like you should pay road tax and insurance and have a yearly mot.
ADucksQuack
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3:38pm Sat 11 Feb 12
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/article3311
131.ece
When a driver scowls at a passing cyclist and shouts: “You have no right to be on the road - you don’t pay road tax!” are they right?
No, according to advisers at HM Revenue & Customs and the Treasury.
“Road tax” does not exist, and has not existed since the 1930s. What drivers do pay, however, is Vehicle Excise Duty, which is often known as road tax but is not strictly the same thing (a point that should have been made clear in today’s edition of The Times).
Firstly, a poll by British Cycling found that 87 per cent of its cyclist members also regularly drive cars, and so pay the same vehicle and fuel duties as other road users.
Secondly, this tax is paid into a central pot. The money made from Vehicle Excise Duty does not go directly back into the roads and highways. Cyclists - like everyone else - pay council tax, income tax and all sorts of other direct and indirect taxes which pay for the provision of public services, be they hospitals, trains or roads.
And thirdly, Vehicle Excise Duty is based on your vehicle’s emissions. Since a bike creates no emissions, it pays no Vehicle Excise Duty.
So, from a tax perspective, a cyclist has as much right to be on the road as any other road user and an extra levy would not be warranted.
ADucksQuack
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3:41pm Sat 11 Feb 12
I think drivers should have to service their cars monthly too, especially as there is more to go wrong with cars and a car going wrong could have life threatening consequences.
Southendracer
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3:42pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but they should pay they need an mot and insurance. and pay tax for bike lanes why should our tax go on somethink not alot of people use i drive down the seafront everyday never see anyone on there apart from joggers.
The truth about cyclists and 'road tax':
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/article3311
131.ece
When a driver scowls at a passing cyclist and shouts: “You have no right to be on the road - you don’t pay road tax!” are they right?
No, according to advisers at HM Revenue & Customs and the Treasury.
“Road tax” does not exist, and has not existed since the 1930s. What drivers do pay, however, is Vehicle Excise Duty, which is often known as road tax but is not strictly the same thing (a point that should have been made clear in today’s edition of The Times).
Firstly, a poll by British Cycling found that 87 per cent of its cyclist members also regularly drive cars, and so pay the same vehicle and fuel duties as other road users.
Secondly, this tax is paid into a central pot. The money made from Vehicle Excise Duty does not go directly back into the roads and highways. Cyclists - like everyone else - pay council tax, income tax and all sorts of other direct and indirect taxes which pay for the provision of public services, be they hospitals, trains or roads.
And thirdly, Vehicle Excise Duty is based on your vehicle’s emissions. Since a bike creates no emissions, it pays no Vehicle Excise Duty.
So, from a tax perspective, a cyclist has as much right to be on the road as any other road user and an extra levy would not be warranted.
you want to use the roads you need an mot and insurance make sure your breaks are working, because when i hit you i want to claim of your insurance for the dent you will put in my car!
Southendracer
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3:45pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:checking your cycle weekley is not good a qualified person should do it and charge for it aswell. you should have a certificate to proof your bike is road worthy. all other transport has to pay for mot and insurance why cant you people on bikes do the same.
As for MOTs, I check my cycles weekly and give them a full service every month.
I think drivers should have to service their cars monthly too, especially as there is more to go wrong with cars and a car going wrong could have life threatening consequences.
The Cater Wood Creeper
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3:47pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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3:48pm Sat 11 Feb 12
On top of that I am covered by my household insurance and life insurance when I am cycling. That's three insurance policies covering me.
I think drivers should also have at least three insurance policies covering them.
My taxes also pay for airports which I never use, hospitals which I never use, schools which I no longer use (and which I strongly suspect you never used), pavements which I rarely use as I rarely walk anywhere… there are thousands of things my taxes pay for which I never use, but I don't mind that my taxes go towards them because that is how society works.
Southendracer
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3:52pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:but still you should pay for bike insurance and mot. you may have insurance but alot of cyclist dont and if they hit me i have no way to claim . and yes i do use the paths how do you think i walk my dog or go to the shop. but unlike you im not stupid and cross the road where i like, i use crossings .
All CTC members are automatically insured.
On top of that I am covered by my household insurance and life insurance when I am cycling. That's three insurance policies covering me.
I think drivers should also have at least three insurance policies covering them.
My taxes also pay for airports which I never use, hospitals which I never use, schools which I no longer use (and which I strongly suspect you never used), pavements which I rarely use as I rarely walk anywhere… there are thousands of things my taxes pay for which I never use, but I don't mind that my taxes go towards them because that is how society works.
Southendracer
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3:55pm Sat 11 Feb 12
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:no because unlike aducksquack i can afford to use my car he needs a bike because he is pro people hates cars and he thinks they a murder weapons but he drives one his self.
stop moaning and just buy yerself a bike, you know you want to really....
what sort of muppet complains time and time again on here about how bad cars are but drives one himself.
Southendracer
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3:57pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:and i dont need 3 insurance polices i pay £1200 for my car a year why would i need 3 my insurance is made for my car.
ADucksQuack wrote:but still you should pay for bike insurance and mot. you may have insurance but alot of cyclist dont and if they hit me i have no way to claim . and yes i do use the paths how do you think i walk my dog or go to the shop. but unlike you im not stupid and cross the road where i like, i use crossings .
All CTC members are automatically insured.
On top of that I am covered by my household insurance and life insurance when I am cycling. That's three insurance policies covering me.
I think drivers should also have at least three insurance policies covering them.
My taxes also pay for airports which I never use, hospitals which I never use, schools which I no longer use (and which I strongly suspect you never used), pavements which I rarely use as I rarely walk anywhere… there are thousands of things my taxes pay for which I never use, but I don't mind that my taxes go towards them because that is how society works.
and that should be the same as cyclist
ADucksQuack
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3:57pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:I don't complain about cars, I complain about dangerous drivers like you.
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:no because unlike aducksquack i can afford to use my car he needs a bike because he is pro people hates cars and he thinks they a murder weapons but he drives one his self.
stop moaning and just buy yerself a bike, you know you want to really....
what sort of muppet complains time and time again on here about how bad cars are but drives one himself.
Southendracer
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3:59pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:im not a dangerous driver thankyou i have no points never hit anyone and no accidents and do not speed.
Southendracer wrote:I don't complain about cars, I complain about dangerous drivers like you.
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:no because unlike aducksquack i can afford to use my car he needs a bike because he is pro people hates cars and he thinks they a murder weapons but he drives one his self.
stop moaning and just buy yerself a bike, you know you want to really....
what sort of muppet complains time and time again on here about how bad cars are but drives one himself.
ADucksQuack
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4:00pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Even better you could cycle and pay £25 a year.
You choose the car you drive, so don't come crying to me about the cost.
Southendracer
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4:03pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:i dont come crying to you as a young drive and i drive a mondeo st and know my insurance is going to be hight. i not going to ride a bik to drive 20 miles each way to and from work.
If you're paying £1200 a year insurance that is YOUR CHOICE. You could drive a smaller cheaper car and pay less.
Even better you could cycle and pay £25 a year.
You choose the car you drive, so don't come crying to me about the cost.
and i rekon as a cyclist you should pay at least £150 a year only fair if you cause acciedents people should be able to claim of you. because most cyclist just ride away and get away with it.
ADucksQuack
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4:06pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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4:13pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:i think you should stop crying a pay tax, insurance and a mot.
I think you should get a bicycle and stop crying like a baby that other people pay less than you.
it will happen one day trust me on that.
Southendracer
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4:17pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Tax for bike lanes £20.00 a year
ADucksQuack wrote:i think you should stop crying a pay tax, insurance and a mot.
I think you should get a bicycle and stop crying like a baby that other people pay less than you.
it will happen one day trust me on that.
Insurance £150.00 at least
Mot £30.00 every 6 months
and toll roads to use certain roads
and make it law so bikes have to be sold with lights.
Southendracer
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4:18pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:and a bike test to make sure you know what you are doing and to know where to cross the road.
Southendracer wrote:Tax for bike lanes £20.00 a year
ADucksQuack wrote:i think you should stop crying a pay tax, insurance and a mot.
I think you should get a bicycle and stop crying like a baby that other people pay less than you.
it will happen one day trust me on that.
Insurance £150.00 at least
Mot £30.00 every 6 months
and toll roads to use certain roads
and make it law so bikes have to be sold with lights.
that should be £200.00
ADucksQuack
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4:20pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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4:22pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:i have a nice warm car i dont get a flu
I pay less than you. You're a mug,
i dont have to wrap up warm.
and i dont have to wear those stupid tight trousers that show your little willy off
Southendracer
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4:25pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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4:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Here's a cycle commuter:
http://bit.ly/xWTT6L
here's another:
http://bit.ly/wjuQP5
and some more:
http://bit.ly/zHitr6
I haven't had a cold or flu in over ten years, because cycling keeps me fit and healthy.
Is that lonely little brain cell of yours getting the picture yet?
Southendracer
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4:30pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:no sorry it aint lol. is that what turns you on taking photos of people on bikes you dirty old man.
Haha! Is that what you think commuter cyclists wear? You really are as stupid as you sound!
Here's a cycle commuter:
http://bit.ly/xWTT6L
here's another:
http://bit.ly/wjuQP5
and some more:
http://bit.ly/zHitr6
I haven't had a cold or flu in over ten years, because cycling keeps me fit and healthy.
Is that lonely little brain cell of yours getting the picture yet?
still i rarther be driving my nice warm car than riding some crappy little girls bike you ride
ADucksQuack
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4:35pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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4:39pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kent
jolllyboy
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4:55pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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5:06pm Sat 11 Feb 12
jolllyboy wrote:It is only illegal to not have lights on a bike at night. Personally I do put lights on my bike during daylight but only if it's foggy. Rather than a bell I have a 120db horn. because SMIDSY doesn't take any notice of a bell.
It is in fact illegal to ride a bike without a working back and front light. How many bother though. if all cyclists had lights that worked and a bell car drivers would be a lot happier about them being on the road because they could be seen and pedestrians would be happier because they would be heard.
As for car drivers 'being happy about them being on the road'. The roads don't belong to drivers so it isn't up to them as to who uses the roads.
Southendracer
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5:16pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:this is why they need mot for them they should be made to have light on all the time.
jolllyboy wrote:It is only illegal to not have lights on a bike at night. Personally I do put lights on my bike during daylight but only if it's foggy. Rather than a bell I have a 120db horn. because SMIDSY doesn't take any notice of a bell.
It is in fact illegal to ride a bike without a working back and front light. How many bother though. if all cyclists had lights that worked and a bell car drivers would be a lot happier about them being on the road because they could be seen and pedestrians would be happier because they would be heard.
As for car drivers 'being happy about them being on the road'. The roads don't belong to drivers so it isn't up to them as to who uses the roads.
i know a road is for everyone but people on bikes are not going to win against a car cars rule.
dont forget insuarance tax and mot
Southendracer
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5:18pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:and if you wanted to be treated fairly you should have to pay tax insurance and mot like the rest of road users
ADucksQuack wrote:this is why they need mot for them they should be made to have light on all the time.
jolllyboy wrote:It is only illegal to not have lights on a bike at night. Personally I do put lights on my bike during daylight but only if it's foggy. Rather than a bell I have a 120db horn. because SMIDSY doesn't take any notice of a bell.
It is in fact illegal to ride a bike without a working back and front light. How many bother though. if all cyclists had lights that worked and a bell car drivers would be a lot happier about them being on the road because they could be seen and pedestrians would be happier because they would be heard.
As for car drivers 'being happy about them being on the road'. The roads don't belong to drivers so it isn't up to them as to who uses the roads.
i know a road is for everyone but people on bikes are not going to win against a car cars rule.
dont forget insuarance tax and mot
emcee
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5:20pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Hahahahaha...
Southendracer wrote:and look at this, this has to be done
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but we in southend dont care about it. just a cause you are going to loose.
Actually quite a lot of people care about cycling facilities:
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
ha ha haaaaaaaaa!
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/18497
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/2064
about time you cyclist pay to use the roads! its so funny
Look and see how many signatures there are so far. Seems there are not a lot of people who agree with you.
ADucksQuack
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5:21pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Really? Let's do a comparison:
ADucksQuack wrote:so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kent
Me:
New Bicycle:
Purchase price £2,400.
Monthly service £10 so £120 a year.
You
New Car:
Purchase price £8,000 and up.
Insurance £1,200 a year.
Vehicle Excise Duty £225
MOT £100
Servicing £200 per year
Fuel (at a conservative estimate of £55 per week): £2860 per year
All that just so you can sit in a traffic jam twice a day watching me ride past you.
Remind me again, who is the mug?
ADucksQuack
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5:23pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Or you could get a bicycle and pay nothing like me.
Southendracer wrote:and if you wanted to be treated fairly you should have to pay tax insurance and mot like the rest of road users
ADucksQuack wrote:this is why they need mot for them they should be made to have light on all the time.
jolllyboy wrote:It is only illegal to not have lights on a bike at night. Personally I do put lights on my bike during daylight but only if it's foggy. Rather than a bell I have a 120db horn. because SMIDSY doesn't take any notice of a bell.
It is in fact illegal to ride a bike without a working back and front light. How many bother though. if all cyclists had lights that worked and a bell car drivers would be a lot happier about them being on the road because they could be seen and pedestrians would be happier because they would be heard.
As for car drivers 'being happy about them being on the road'. The roads don't belong to drivers so it isn't up to them as to who uses the roads.
i know a road is for everyone but people on bikes are not going to win against a car cars rule.
dont forget insuarance tax and mot
ADucksQuack
says...
5:26pm Sat 11 Feb 12
emcee wrote:Hahaha! It's been going since last April and got nine signatures! hahaha!
Southendracer wrote:Hahahahaha...
Southendracer wrote:and look at this, this has to be done
ADucksQuack wrote:yea but we in southend dont care about it. just a cause you are going to loose.
Actually quite a lot of people care about cycling facilities:
http://www.thetimes.
co.uk/tto/public/cyc
lesafety/
ha ha haaaaaaaaa!
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/18497
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/2064
about time you cyclist pay to use the roads! its so funny
Look and see how many signatures there are so far. Seems there are not a lot of people who agree with you.
Southendracer
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5:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:me car service is £0
Southendracer wrote:Really? Let's do a comparison:
ADucksQuack wrote:so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kent
Me:
New Bicycle:
Purchase price £2,400.
Monthly service £10 so £120 a year.
You
New Car:
Purchase price £8,000 and up.
Insurance £1,200 a year.
Vehicle Excise Duty £225
MOT £100
Servicing £200 per year
Fuel (at a conservative estimate of £55 per week): £2860 per year
All that just so you can sit in a traffic jam twice a day watching me ride past you.
Remind me again, who is the mug?
petrol is £0
Insurance £1200 i pay £200 of that
mot £0
tax is you guessed it a big fat £0
watching me drive past you in the ice and cold
priceless
one of the joys of a company car is i dont pay alot i have to pay the 200 off becuase i choose to have my car.
see i think you find you are the looser and i only use car for work.
i walk instead! what a mug you are
boyracer_20yrs old
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5:31pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
says...
5:38pm Sat 11 Feb 12
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:maybe not tax but what if a bike hit you in your car you have no way of getting your car repaired.
Cyclists should not need to pay tax. Thats like a saying a pedestrian should have to pay tax to walk on the path. Afterall most people who ride bikes have cars. There just making the most out of their road tax!
if they want to use the road they should pay todo so.
ADucksQuack
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5:43pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Why? YOU don't pay to use the roads, why should any else?
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:maybe not tax but what if a bike hit you in your car you have no way of getting your car repaired.
Cyclists should not need to pay tax. Thats like a saying a pedestrian should have to pay tax to walk on the path. Afterall most people who ride bikes have cars. There just making the most out of their road tax!
if they want to use the road they should pay todo so.
ADucksQuack
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5:47pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Here's the difference between my commute and yours:
ADucksQuack wrote:me car service is £0
Southendracer wrote:Really? Let's do a comparison:
ADucksQuack wrote:so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kent
Me:
New Bicycle:
Purchase price £2,400.
Monthly service £10 so £120 a year.
You
New Car:
Purchase price £8,000 and up.
Insurance £1,200 a year.
Vehicle Excise Duty £225
MOT £100
Servicing £200 per year
Fuel (at a conservative estimate of £55 per week): £2860 per year
All that just so you can sit in a traffic jam twice a day watching me ride past you.
Remind me again, who is the mug?
petrol is £0
Insurance £1200 i pay £200 of that
mot £0
tax is you guessed it a big fat £0
watching me drive past you in the ice and cold
priceless
one of the joys of a company car is i dont pay alot i have to pay the 200 off becuase i choose to have my car.
see i think you find you are the looser and i only use car for work.
i walk instead! what a mug you are
http://bit.ly/xjChSl
Southendracer
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5:47pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE INSURANCE AND MOT YOU WANT TO USE THE ROADS THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.
Southendracer wrote:Why? YOU don't pay to use the roads, why should any else?
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:maybe not tax but what if a bike hit you in your car you have no way of getting your car repaired.
Cyclists should not need to pay tax. Thats like a saying a pedestrian should have to pay tax to walk on the path. Afterall most people who ride bikes have cars. There just making the most out of their road tax!
if they want to use the road they should pay todo so.
IF YOU HIT A CAR OR A CAR HITS YOU THEN THE INSURANCE WILL SORT IT OUT.
YOU MUG
AND TAX IS FOR BIKES ONLY CARS DONT PAY TAX NO MORE!
SAY £10 A YEAR FOR THE UP KEEP OF THESE STUPID BIKE LANES THEY KEEP MAKING!
Southendracer
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5:49pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:But i drive 20 miles to and from work so it would be very stupid to ride a bike there you idiot.
Southendracer wrote:Here's the difference between my commute and yours:
ADucksQuack wrote:me car service is £0
Southendracer wrote:Really? Let's do a comparison:
ADucksQuack wrote:so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kent
Me:
New Bicycle:
Purchase price £2,400.
Monthly service £10 so £120 a year.
You
New Car:
Purchase price £8,000 and up.
Insurance £1,200 a year.
Vehicle Excise Duty £225
MOT £100
Servicing £200 per year
Fuel (at a conservative estimate of £55 per week): £2860 per year
All that just so you can sit in a traffic jam twice a day watching me ride past you.
Remind me again, who is the mug?
petrol is £0
Insurance £1200 i pay £200 of that
mot £0
tax is you guessed it a big fat £0
watching me drive past you in the ice and cold
priceless
one of the joys of a company car is i dont pay alot i have to pay the 200 off becuase i choose to have my car.
see i think you find you are the looser and i only use car for work.
i walk instead! what a mug you are
http://bit.ly/xjChSl
why dont you be a man and get a motorbike.
ADucksQuack
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5:50pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:I already pay for cycle lanes and roads with my council tax.
ADucksQuack wrote:BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE INSURANCE AND MOT YOU WANT TO USE THE ROADS THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.
Southendracer wrote:Why? YOU don't pay to use the roads, why should any else?
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:maybe not tax but what if a bike hit you in your car you have no way of getting your car repaired.
Cyclists should not need to pay tax. Thats like a saying a pedestrian should have to pay tax to walk on the path. Afterall most people who ride bikes have cars. There just making the most out of their road tax!
if they want to use the road they should pay todo so.
IF YOU HIT A CAR OR A CAR HITS YOU THEN THE INSURANCE WILL SORT IT OUT.
YOU MUG
AND TAX IS FOR BIKES ONLY CARS DONT PAY TAX NO MORE!
SAY £10 A YEAR FOR THE UP KEEP OF THESE STUPID BIKE LANES THEY KEEP MAKING!
Oh dear, he's hit the caps lock button folks, I think his brain cell may have imploded. Hahaha!
Southendracer
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5:50pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
ADucksQuack wrote:
Southendracer wrote:
ADucksQuack wrote:
Hah! My bike is worth two years of your insurance, and that's just the one I use for work.so u paid all that money it would have been cheaper to use a car you mug.
why dont you try riding it off the end of the peir see how long it takes you to get to kentReally? Let's do a comparison:
Me:
New Bicycle:
Purchase price £2,400.
Monthly service £10 so £120 a year.
You
New Car:
Purchase price £8,000 and up.
Insurance £1,200 a year.
Vehicle Excise Duty £225
MOT £100
Servicing £200 per year
Fuel (at a conservative estimate of £55 per week): £2860 per year
All that just so you can sit in a traffic jam twice a day watching me ride past you.
Remind me again, who is the mug?me car service is £0
petrol is £0
Insurance £1200 i pay £200 of that
mot £0
tax is you guessed it a big fat £0
watching me drive past you in the ice and cold
priceless
one of the joys of a company car is i dont pay alot i have to pay the 200 off becuase i choose to have my car.
see i think you find you are the looser and i only use car for work.
i walk instead! what a mug you areHere's the difference between my commute and yours:and your video proves why cyclist need to have insurance you shouldnt be riding between cars you get hit and complain that its a cars fault
ADucksQuack
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5:52pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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5:52pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:you are such a muppet look at your comments think you used the caps lock first.
Southendracer wrote:I already pay for cycle lanes and roads with my council tax.
ADucksQuack wrote:BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE INSURANCE AND MOT YOU WANT TO USE THE ROADS THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.
Southendracer wrote:Why? YOU don't pay to use the roads, why should any else?
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:maybe not tax but what if a bike hit you in your car you have no way of getting your car repaired.
Cyclists should not need to pay tax. Thats like a saying a pedestrian should have to pay tax to walk on the path. Afterall most people who ride bikes have cars. There just making the most out of their road tax!
if they want to use the road they should pay todo so.
IF YOU HIT A CAR OR A CAR HITS YOU THEN THE INSURANCE WILL SORT IT OUT.
YOU MUG
AND TAX IS FOR BIKES ONLY CARS DONT PAY TAX NO MORE!
SAY £10 A YEAR FOR THE UP KEEP OF THESE STUPID BIKE LANES THEY KEEP MAKING!
Oh dear, he's hit the caps lock button folks, I think his brain cell may have imploded. Hahaha!
Southendracer
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5:54pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:yea and what if you are filtering and the cars start moving and hit you or even worse you hit them?
That is called filtering and is perfectly legal in slow moving or stationary traffic.
Southendracer
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5:55pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:im going for a little while going to take my nice warm car out for a drive. hopefully there aint any mugs on the road like you.
ADucksQuack wrote:yea and what if you are filtering and the cars start moving and hit you or even worse you hit them?
That is called filtering and is perfectly legal in slow moving or stationary traffic.
ADucksQuack
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5:58pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Then the driver is at fault for not paying attention.
ADucksQuack wrote:yea and what if you are filtering and the cars start moving and hit you or even worse you hit them?
That is called filtering and is perfectly legal in slow moving or stationary traffic.
Highway Code Rule 211:
"Motorcyclists and cyclists
211
It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully."
Southendracer
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6:01pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:donsnt say anywhere that the driver is at fault just says to be aware think you need to read it again.
Southendracer wrote:Then the driver is at fault for not paying attention.
ADucksQuack wrote:yea and what if you are filtering and the cars start moving and hit you or even worse you hit them?
That is called filtering and is perfectly legal in slow moving or stationary traffic.
Highway Code Rule 211:
"Motorcyclists and cyclists
211
It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully."
maddriver
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6:01pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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6:02pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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6:09pm Sat 11 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:yea be aware dosnt mean car drivers are at fault. read it muppet
Exactly, "be aware", and if you are not then you are at fault.
Max Impact
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6:55pm Sat 11 Feb 12
maddriver wrote:100% Agree
Seems like this thread has been lost to the same stupid argument about cyclists and road tax etc., which is nothing whatsoever to do with the original story and provides no constructive ideas whatsoever.
Southendracer & ADucksQuack can you swap e-mail address and continue your chat off forum, it’s made it such a pain to wade through stuff that more or less has nothing to do with the original story.
The £23milllion is not for cycle paths it’s for rejuvenating run down seafronts, and Southend has NOT been told it is going to get a share it still has to submit an application.
There are good bike riders and there are bad bike riders, I was walking on the path just past the Halfway House when a three bike riders coming the other way they were taking up the cycle path and the footpath the one on the footpath started yelling “Get out the way you f...ing C-word” He soon moved when he saw I was filming him with a camcorder.
Just wish he had fallen off would have made £250 form You’ve Been Framed!
Southendracer
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7:05pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Max Impact wrote:nothink else will be wrote he knows im right :)
maddriver wrote:100% Agree
Seems like this thread has been lost to the same stupid argument about cyclists and road tax etc., which is nothing whatsoever to do with the original story and provides no constructive ideas whatsoever.
Southendracer & ADucksQuack can you swap e-mail address and continue your chat off forum, it’s made it such a pain to wade through stuff that more or less has nothing to do with the original story.
The £23milllion is not for cycle paths it’s for rejuvenating run down seafronts, and Southend has NOT been told it is going to get a share it still has to submit an application.
There are good bike riders and there are bad bike riders, I was walking on the path just past the Halfway House when a three bike riders coming the other way they were taking up the cycle path and the footpath the one on the footpath started yelling “Get out the way you f...ing C-word” He soon moved when he saw I was filming him with a camcorder.
Just wish he had fallen off would have made £250 form You’ve Been Framed!
Last Poster
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7:43pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Perhaps you would like to tell us what age you are and at what age you would like to be put away. Hard to believe you would talk about your own mum and dad and their parents in this way. Still, China will soon dispose of you, once you get your call-up papers, then for the few minutes you live you can become a real man instead of a pure ungrateful COD playing idiot!
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak.
Brunning999 wrote:I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!
no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!
Southendracer
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7:57pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Last Poster wrote:i am 25 i dont play cod and i have a full time job. and my parents and grand parents agree with what im saying. all the stuff that was good on canvey has gone.
Southendracer wrote:Perhaps you would like to tell us what age you are and at what age you would like to be put away. Hard to believe you would talk about your own mum and dad and their parents in this way. Still, China will soon dispose of you, once you get your call-up papers, then for the few minutes you live you can become a real man instead of a pure ungrateful COD playing idiot!
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak.
Brunning999 wrote:I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!
no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!
they got the adidas park on canvey all the old people moaned about it
they got a skate park all the old people moaned about it.
and all we get is country parks and gardens what is on canvey for young people there is nothink , i remember when i was a kid the seafront was packed solid now it is empty no one comes to canvey anymore. why should they what is there todo for people unless they want to walk.
and what has china got todo with it dont understant your stupid comment.
i take it you are one of these old **** that are make canvey a crap hole?
Southendracer
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7:59pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:and why do you think people stay in and play there games and cause so much trouble on the streets?
Last Poster wrote:i am 25 i dont play cod and i have a full time job. and my parents and grand parents agree with what im saying. all the stuff that was good on canvey has gone.
Southendracer wrote:Perhaps you would like to tell us what age you are and at what age you would like to be put away. Hard to believe you would talk about your own mum and dad and their parents in this way. Still, China will soon dispose of you, once you get your call-up papers, then for the few minutes you live you can become a real man instead of a pure ungrateful COD playing idiot!
The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak.
Brunning999 wrote:I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!
no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!
they got the adidas park on canvey all the old people moaned about it
they got a skate park all the old people moaned about it.
and all we get is country parks and gardens what is on canvey for young people there is nothink , i remember when i was a kid the seafront was packed solid now it is empty no one comes to canvey anymore. why should they what is there todo for people unless they want to walk.
and what has china got todo with it dont understant your stupid comment.
i take it you are one of these old **** that are make canvey a crap hole?
because people like you making places like canvey a hell hole to live we need more stuff for younger people bring canvey back to what it was.
i understand older people want stuff but they also got to understand young people need stuff aswell.
lucky i cant swear on here you muppet
Bosniavet
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8:53pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:I think you'll find that the "and what has china got todo with it " answer if that he believes we shall have a war with China & that a "Queen's Order" will be issued embodying the reserve & permitting conscription.
Last Poster wrote:i am 25 i dont play cod and i have a full time job. and my parents and grand parents agree with what im saying. all the stuff that was good on canvey has gone. they got the adidas park on canvey all the old people moaned about it they got a skate park all the old people moaned about it. and all we get is country parks and gardens what is on canvey for young people there is nothink , i remember when i was a kid the seafront was packed solid now it is empty no one comes to canvey anymore. why should they what is there todo for people unless they want to walk. and what has china got todo with it dont understant your stupid comment. i take it you are one of these old **** that are make canvey a crap hole?Southendracer wrote:Perhaps you would like to tell us what age you are and at what age you would like to be put away. Hard to believe you would talk about your own mum and dad and their parents in this way. Still, China will soon dispose of you, once you get your call-up papers, then for the few minutes you live you can become a real man instead of a pure ungrateful COD playing idiot!The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak. no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!Brunning999 wrote: Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Quite what that has to do with grants to improve facilities in Canvey Island & Southend-on-Sea, I am unable to tell you
Southendracer
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9:43pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Bosniavet wrote:thanks lol very strange person
Southendracer wrote:I think you'll find that the "and what has china got todo with it " answer if that he believes we shall have a war with China & that a "Queen's Order" will be issued embodying the reserve & permitting conscription.
Last Poster wrote:i am 25 i dont play cod and i have a full time job. and my parents and grand parents agree with what im saying. all the stuff that was good on canvey has gone. they got the adidas park on canvey all the old people moaned about it they got a skate park all the old people moaned about it. and all we get is country parks and gardens what is on canvey for young people there is nothink , i remember when i was a kid the seafront was packed solid now it is empty no one comes to canvey anymore. why should they what is there todo for people unless they want to walk. and what has china got todo with it dont understant your stupid comment. i take it you are one of these old **** that are make canvey a crap hole?Southendracer wrote:Perhaps you would like to tell us what age you are and at what age you would like to be put away. Hard to believe you would talk about your own mum and dad and their parents in this way. Still, China will soon dispose of you, once you get your call-up papers, then for the few minutes you live you can become a real man instead of a pure ungrateful COD playing idiot!The Cater Wood Creeper wrote:what they need todo is stop giving the old people a say in what happens and let the young people speak. no one wants country parks and gardens they even complained about putting an adidas gym on canvey. should be called retirement island!Brunning999 wrote: Is there an election soon because anyone that is taken in with this cr8p should see a doctor!! It's an insult to any normal human being to accept the amount of £23.000000 is enough to even put Canvey seafront in shape let alone all the rest in the UK!!! Please be serious!!!I dunno, wouldn't cost all that to bulldoze Canvey would it?
Quite what that has to do with grants to improve facilities in Canvey Island & Southend-on-Sea, I am unable to tell you
Minceir
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9:56pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Southendracer
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10:54pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Minceir wrote:ask aducksquack might be cheaper for him to ride one of those he could save £5 a month on tires
You should all be ashamed of yourselves! What wrong with unicycles?
Minceir
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11:30pm Sat 11 Feb 12
SARFENDMAN
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7:42am Sun 12 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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8:07am Sun 12 Feb 12
SARFENDMAN wrote:SBC knows full well the High Street is dying. It is SBC's business rates that are killing it.
Think the Heart of Southend needs a £m transplant as terminally ill at the moment. "THE HIGH STREET". SBC is totally unaware it is fading away into nothingness and Fossetts Farm and Sainsburys at Roots Hall will add a few more nails to the coffin.
The Cater Wood Creeper
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11:13am Sun 12 Feb 12
Minceir wrote:the only exercise fatty pickles gets is shovelling his dinner in his fat greedy gob and picking up his wallet to count his cash
Eric, cheese pies galore, Pickles looks like he could do with some exercise, on foot, on the trot and soon The notion of MPs as greedy pigs with their noses in the trough is bore (gedit) out by photos of this man.
jayman
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11:55am Sun 12 Feb 12
amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million..
£50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company..
1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund.
2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters..
the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
Max Impact
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4:58pm Sun 12 Feb 12
jayman wrote:Have you got proof of any fraudulent activity by the council?
23 million will become 23 seconds if Southend Tory cabinet get there hands on any of that dosh.. amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million.. £50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company.. 1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund. 2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters.. the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
If not you had better be careful of any accusations you make do not cross the line on to the slander/defamation side.
If it's alright for you to make such comments will you be alright for us to make things up about you and post them on line?
Nebs
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5:05pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Contrast this to the over £100 per person that we give in overseas aid. I'm not saying the overseas aid is wrong, just putting this £23million into perspective.
Then there is the cost of putting a bid together.
And it is not just councils, it is businesses and charities that can apply for money, so that diminishes the amount to each council even further.
ADucksQuack
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7:08pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Max Impact wrote:Haha! Get over yourself. Jayman is doing what many political commentators do and voicing an opinion. It is also my opinion that something is very wrong at SBC. Too much money has gone from the taxpayer to the pockets of friends of friends of councillors for little or no return. Renaissance Southend comes immediately to mind.
jayman wrote:Have you got proof of any fraudulent activity by the council?
23 million will become 23 seconds if Southend Tory cabinet get there hands on any of that dosh.. amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million.. £50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company.. 1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund. 2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters.. the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
If not you had better be careful of any accusations you make do not cross the line on to the slander/defamation side.
If it's alright for you to make such comments will you be alright for us to make things up about you and post them on line?
Minceir
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7:22pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Max Impact wrote:All councils are frauds and that is just commonsense! Basildon council is the expert in this, if its not true then they can sure me.
jayman wrote:Have you got proof of any fraudulent activity by the council?
23 million will become 23 seconds if Southend Tory cabinet get there hands on any of that dosh.. amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million.. £50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company.. 1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund. 2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters.. the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
If not you had better be careful of any accusations you make do not cross the line on to the slander/defamation side.
If it's alright for you to make such comments will you be alright for us to make things up about you and post them on line?
jayman
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10:47pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Max Impact wrote:okay max..
jayman wrote:Have you got proof of any fraudulent activity by the council?
23 million will become 23 seconds if Southend Tory cabinet get there hands on any of that dosh.. amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million.. £50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company.. 1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund. 2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters.. the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
If not you had better be careful of any accusations you make do not cross the line on to the slander/defamation side.
If it's alright for you to make such comments will you be alright for us to make things up about you and post them on line?
if you want to take legal action against me that's okay..
first you have to find me. you will need to get a court order for my personal information to be released... very costly!
then you have to issue a summons to court on a Libel charge. then you have to do many things. you have to prove the absence of satire (clearly satirical) and you have to prove that SBC are not corrupt (very difficult) then you have to prove that there was no right to reply by any cabinet member or anyone affected by my statement (hello) then you have to await a judgement.
if you win you can then pursue damages, if you win you can then reclaim the amount awarded to you, and by the time this has all finished the Tory government would have finished with there mad austerity measures. you can then have half of my wooden shack on two tree island i moved into due to socio/financial prejudicial government policy. I.E I'm working class and have a small family.
see you in court :)
Max Impact
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11:17pm Sun 12 Feb 12
jayman wrote:The courts costs are no problem what is I get bored and distracted very easily...
Max Impact wrote:okay max..
jayman wrote:Have you got proof of any fraudulent activity by the council?
23 million will become 23 seconds if Southend Tory cabinet get there hands on any of that dosh.. amount received for Southend borough beach 7 million.. £50,000.00 for three shovels. invoice received from a council favoured road construction company.. 1.7 million to the Anna Waite benevolent fund. 2.4 million to consultants.. No invoice received, No work received, No CGI of a pointless project, there not answering the phone or responding to letters.. the rest fell down the back of the council sofa.
If not you had better be careful of any accusations you make do not cross the line on to the slander/defamation side.
If it's alright for you to make such comments will you be alright for us to make things up about you and post them on line?
if you want to take legal action against me that's okay..
first you have to find me. you will need to get a court order for my personal information to be released... very costly!
then you have to issue a summons to court on a Libel charge. then you have to do many things. you have to prove the absence of satire (clearly satirical) and you have to prove that SBC are not corrupt (very difficult) then you have to prove that there was no right to reply by any cabinet member or anyone affected by my statement (hello) then you have to await a judgement.
if you win you can then pursue damages, if you win you can then reclaim the amount awarded to you, and by the time this has all finished the Tory government would have finished with there mad austerity measures. you can then have half of my wooden shack on two tree island i moved into due to socio/financial prejudicial government policy. I.E I'm working class and have a small family.
see you in court :)
oh look a bitd.
Where was I...
just making a point, if you can make remarks that you have no proof of can I do the same about you please?
perini
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11:42pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
Minceir
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12:14am Mon 13 Feb 12
Nebs wrote:Does 'overseas aid' go to the people it was meant for or just into the pockets of the bankers via arms companies? havent india just recently say they didn't want help from the UK, could this be a snub to the bankers?
According to wikipedia there are over 200 seaside towns in the UK. That works out at £115,000 each. Pretty much naff all in the overall scheme of things. If there are 170,000 people in Southend, then it represents less than 70p per person.
Contrast this to the over £100 per person that we give in overseas aid. I'm not saying the overseas aid is wrong, just putting this £23million into perspective.
Then there is the cost of putting a bid together.
And it is not just councils, it is businesses and charities that can apply for money, so that diminishes the amount to each council even further.
ADucksQuack
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7:17am Mon 13 Feb 12
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
alimac69
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1:51pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Max Impact
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1:52pm Mon 13 Feb 12
The Council can not knock down Esplanade House, as it is privately owned. The labour government passed a change in tax that if a building is uninhabitable you do not have to pay tax on it but if a certain percentage of the building is still standing the designation of the land remains be it commercial/industria
l etc
If you clear the entire site before submitting a new planning application the designated banding for the site is lost and it becomes a brown filed site thus leaving a part demolished building on the site you do not have to apply for the land to be used for commercial/industria
l uses as it would not have lost its banding.
Southendracer
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3:05pm Mon 13 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
perini
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3:39pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Parsnip
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3:56pm Mon 13 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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4:13pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
ADucksQuack
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4:14pm Mon 13 Feb 12
alimac69 wrote:There is sand on the seafront all the way from Chalkwell to Shoebury.
I'd like a bit more sand on the seafront. That little bit by the Three Shells isn't enough on sunny days.
Southendracer
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6:38pm Mon 13 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:why dont you shut your mouth.
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
no one wants stupid cycle lanes the money could be used for stuff thats more important. as you keep going on about roads why not use them on your bike.
Max Impact
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7:42pm Mon 13 Feb 12
They also need to put speed limits on and crack down hard on bike riders who cycle off the track with fines and possibly take the bike away no matter how much they have paid for it.
Even the most ardent of the bike riders on here have to admit there is a small hardcore that flout the rules and use the footpath on the seafront and cycle down the High Street, it is these this small group that turns people against the innocent bike riders that abide by the rules and stick to the designated routes and dismount when they get to the High Street.
It is time that the bylaws were rewritten for harsher punishment for those cyclists that do not respect pedestrians, as I said fines or take the bike away.
Minceir
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7:54pm Mon 13 Feb 12
ADucksQuack
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9:49pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:Cyclists want cycle lanes. It's OUR taxes too.
ADucksQuack wrote:why dont you shut your mouth.
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
no one wants stupid cycle lanes the money could be used for stuff thats more important. as you keep going on about roads why not use them on your bike.
Southendracer
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9:55pm Mon 13 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:so you have your bike lane but dont use the roads.
Southendracer wrote:Cyclists want cycle lanes. It's OUR taxes too.
ADucksQuack wrote:why dont you shut your mouth.
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
no one wants stupid cycle lanes the money could be used for stuff thats more important. as you keep going on about roads why not use them on your bike.
otherwise PAY INSURANCE AND MOT!!!!!!
ADucksQuack
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10:24pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Southendracer wrote:If you are too stupid to take advantage of low cost transport that is your problem. Don't come crying to me about it. Now do run along little boy, I think I hear your mummy telling you it's bedtime.
ADucksQuack wrote:so you have your bike lane but dont use the roads.
Southendracer wrote:Cyclists want cycle lanes. It's OUR taxes too.
ADucksQuack wrote:why dont you shut your mouth.
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
no one wants stupid cycle lanes the money could be used for stuff thats more important. as you keep going on about roads why not use them on your bike.
otherwise PAY INSURANCE AND MOT!!!!!!
Minceir
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11:14pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Southendracer
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12:17am Tue 14 Feb 12
ADucksQuack wrote:no i am not crying to you i have a bike, rollerskates, a car and untill recently had a motorbike.
Southendracer wrote:If you are too stupid to take advantage of low cost transport that is your problem. Don't come crying to me about it. Now do run along little boy, I think I hear your mummy telling you it's bedtime.
ADucksQuack wrote:so you have your bike lane but dont use the roads.
Southendracer wrote:Cyclists want cycle lanes. It's OUR taxes too.
ADucksQuack wrote:why dont you shut your mouth.
Southendracer wrote:Do shut up, you're just making yourself look stupid now.
ADucksQuack wrote:what a waste of money that should go onto the roads to make them better.
perini wrote:It is already proposed as a designated part of the national Sustrans network (Sustrans National Cycle Network Route 16 to be precise). The cinder track will eventually be widened to accommodate the cycle track. This will then complete a cycle route which runs all the way from Southend to Basildon, Grays and on into London.
Eastwood Biker wrote:No its not - it will be a complete waste of money! Walk your bicycle or ride on the existing roads!
But are they going to knock down the derelict Esplanade House though ?
Perhaps also they may complete the Cycle Path to Leigh Old town as well which is long overdue.
See the map of NCN 16 here:
http://bit.ly/xbLsSI
when cyclist start paying tax mot and insurance then they should have more lanes.
no one wants stupid cycle lanes the money could be used for stuff thats more important. as you keep going on about roads why not use them on your bike.
otherwise PAY INSURANCE AND MOT!!!!!!
as i have a bike i still dont see the need for bike lanes when there are roads. you know theses roads you keep on and on about that we all must share, so why o why would you want bike lanes that hardly anyone will use.
when i walk down the seafront i walk in the bike lane just to **** people off like you ha ha ha ha!
Minceir
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2:34pm Tue 14 Feb 12
ADucksQuack says...
10:21am Sat 11 Feb 12