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Southend street cleaner strikes gold by finding £21,000 Rolex watch

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A STREET cleaner struck gold in Leigh - when he found a gold Rolex watch.

The 28-year-old Cory worker was cleaning a drain near to Leigh-on-sea train station at around 1.30pm on Friday, February 10, when amongst the dirt he came across a watch.

Upon cleaning it and consulting a jeweller, he found the watch was an 18-carat gold Rolex.

He handed it over at Rayleigh police station the following Monday and the owner has 30 days to reclaim it.

But enquiries using the serial number show that this watch has not been registered as lost or stolen, so police are now trying to locate the rightful owner.

The yellow gold Rolex Oyster Perpetual Cosmograph is from the Daytona collection has an estimated value of around £21,000.

Anyone with information should call PC Calley Mackay at Southend police station on 101.

Comments(87)

Blind Haze says...
12:48pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I think it's mine - I can prove it as I can provide a perfect description...

The Cater Wood Creeper says...
1:01pm Tue 14 Feb 12

has not been registered as lost or stolen


finders keepers then.


I'm pretty sure I'd notice if I used to have a twenty one grand Rolex, then suddenly didn't!

Maybe it's not the 'trendy' one to have and the owner threw it away in disgust when he found out just before nipping down to H. Samuel to buy the latest, undoubtedly more expensive and lairy, model and thought nothing of it....

clairebartlett says...
1:33pm Tue 14 Feb 12

its not very often that you come across someone who is honest enough to hand stuff in to the police.

If no one claims it within the 30 days, I think it should be given to the guy who found it!

xxxdave says...
1:45pm Tue 14 Feb 12

well done and good luck to him... we will see if honesty pays here if the story is followed up by the Echo group of papers.

barrylabs says...
2:18pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Only 30 days to go.....the clock is ticking!

xxxdave says...
2:20pm Tue 14 Feb 12

But is the watch still ticking after been down the drain ?

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
2:21pm Tue 14 Feb 12

No its mine!! i can describe it too!!. Seriously you would have to hand it in,how could you do anything with it otherswise, it has a serial number they say above! I would not want a watch like that anyway, what is the point, doesn't tell the time any better ! Hope the Echo keeps us up to speed on this, and hope the cleaner gets to keep it !

bumper says...
2:32pm Tue 14 Feb 12

some people just have more money than sense if i lost it i think i would know and would want it back .

like the police said records will lead them to the owner so the guy that found it may or may not get a reward
my thinking is the real owner may not know it has been lost or its missing ?
but i bet he is going to soon

Blind Haze says...
2:36pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
No its mine!! i can describe it too!!. Seriously you would have to hand it in,how could you do anything with it otherswise, it has a serial number they say above! I would not want a watch like that anyway, what is the point, doesn't tell the time any better ! Hope the Echo keeps us up to speed on this, and hope the cleaner gets to keep it !
I bet you could find one or two unscrupulous pawn shops in Southend who'd give you £10,000 cash no questions asked - I won't mention their names though as I think that'd cause this post to be removed!

Nebs says...
3:19pm Tue 14 Feb 12

This is part of the stuff he cleared out of a drain in the course of his employment. As with all other stuff that comes out of any drains he cleans, it will belong to his employers to dispose of as they see fit, if unclaimed.

emcee says...
3:33pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
No its mine!! i can describe it too!!. Seriously you would have to hand it in,how could you do anything with it otherswise, it has a serial number they say above! I would not want a watch like that anyway, what is the point, doesn't tell the time any better ! Hope the Echo keeps us up to speed on this, and hope the cleaner gets to keep it !
If unclaimed after the specified amount of time the finder is entitled to have the item back to do with as they wish. This seems to be 30 days, according to the article.
For the sake of the finder lets hope it remains unclaimed. However, if it is claimed then I hope the owner offers a substantial reward.

Mr Chips says...
3:38pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Bit of an aside but....
....why does the headline say £22k Rolex and the story say £21k?

Ps I know that's added nothing to the debate I'm just curious!

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
4:13pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I think they saw your note and amended it, but the pol still says £22k. To other posters, it should be still ticking for that money, had a thought, perhaps it was thrown down, robber got scared, ran off? Hate the post, miserable, sounds like sour grapes, from Nebs!! How chunky is this watch, could it have fallen through the drain??

The Yellow Peril says...
4:24pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Might have been lost for the insurance? Then again, you wouldn't throw it down a drain would you? You'd hide it somewhere safer than that surely?

The Cater Wood Creeper says...
4:28pm Tue 14 Feb 12

clairebartlett wrote:
its not very often that you come across someone who is honest enough to hand stuff in to the police. If no one claims it within the 30 days, I think it should be given to the guy who found it!
found a purse in Gloucester Park in the summer with more dough in it than I had in the bank at the time and with loads of bank cards. There was a name but no address. Marched straight over to the Police Station and handed it all in.

Hope th eperson who lot it got it back but when I asked severl people if they had lost their wallet/purse would they go to the Police Station to see if anyone had handed it in they all said 'no' as they all thought that no-one would hand it in...

This was a few weeks after I found a gold wedding ring in the changing room of the Sporting Village and handed it in.

The Cater Wood Creeper says...
4:32pm Tue 14 Feb 12

those five grand Rolexes that got stolen last year couldn't have been up to much then could they.....

Cheap, 'orrible nasty things they must've been

Mr Chips says...
4:37pm Tue 14 Feb 12

The Yellow Peril wrote:
Might have been lost for the insurance? Then again, you wouldn't throw it down a drain would you? You'd hide it somewhere safer than that surely?
I would guess that it would have to be reported lost to be able to claim on the insurance - from previous dealings with insurance companies they'd find any way not to pay!

Duck Egg says...
4:37pm Tue 14 Feb 12

37% (at the time of writing this) of people who voted in the poll are scrotes....

themarinadog says...
4:51pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I'll stick with my TIMEX

themarinadog says...
4:51pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I'll stick with my TIMEX

APR says...
4:51pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I was under the impression that the police no longer operated a lost and found service ?

I would have reported it to the police and given my mobile number, but hung on to the watch.

themarinadog says...
4:51pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I'll stick with my TIMEX

themarinadog says...
4:52pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I'll stick with my TIMEX

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
4:52pm Tue 14 Feb 12

hm, insurance did not think of that, but why if its worth that would you want to "lose" it, is it because you could not sell it for that? thats only the Insurance purposes value? If so I wudda thought a drain was a good place, obviously not!

boyracer_20yrs old says...
4:55pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Fairplay to this man for handing it in to the police, but I dont think id hand in a £21,000 rolex. Not many people actually would I dont think? Id be straight down town to cash it in!

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
4:56pm Tue 14 Feb 12

to themarinadog, yes you stick with your timex H Ha have you seen all the postings??

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
4:58pm Tue 14 Feb 12

APR thats a good idea, would you be able to do that??

romeo017 says...
4:58pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Good luck to him an unthankful job especially in Leigh - hope is is real not like many you see on the wrists of the TOWIE crowd !!

watnocky says...
4:58pm Tue 14 Feb 12

i didnt like it

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
5:01pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Cater Wood Creeper, did you get any rewards?? bet you wont say but do you live in caterwood? To romeo, well a jeweller has looked at it?? I wonder how anyone could now claim it, prove its theirs?

The Cater Wood Creeper says...
5:03pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
Cater Wood Creeper, did you get any rewards?? bet you wont say but do you live in caterwood? To romeo, well a jeweller has looked at it?? I wonder how anyone could now claim it, prove its theirs?
no rewards.

and no I don't live in Cater Wood

Chap says...
5:04pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Kudos to the Cory chap for handing it in - many wouldn't have done.

And as for the £21,000 valuation? Ridiculous! I don't believe for a minute that it is worth even half that. I wonder who valued it?

reptile says...
5:14pm Tue 14 Feb 12

As a child I found a radio cassette player and handed it to the police. After 30 days the police gave it to me as nobody claimed it. A few weeks later a man knocked at the door and said it was his and the police had given him my name and address. Very disappointing for a child.

boyracer_20yrs old says...
5:52pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
Cater Wood Creeper, did you get any rewards?? bet you wont say but do you live in caterwood? To romeo, well a jeweller has looked at it?? I wonder how anyone could now claim it, prove its theirs?
Its called a receipt.

muffindamule says...
6:03pm Tue 14 Feb 12

The Germans have a very good law which provides that a reward be given to the finder. 5% of the value up to a value of 500 € and 3% of the value over and above that 500 €. If we were to introduce a similar law in this country and ,for the sake of simplicity, substitute the pound for the euro then the finder of this watch would be legally entitled to 640 pounds ! If the rightful owner comes forward it would be nice to know that he (it looks to me like a man's watch) will be even more generous . I know I would. Then again ,I don't own a Rolex.

jolllyboy says...
6:12pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I hope he got A RECEIPT FROM THE POLICE .

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
6:27pm Tue 14 Feb 12

wotnoky? what did you not like ?
Caterwood Creeper, no rewards? !, so would you do it the same again? Would you have said if you had lived there? Hw did you come up wth your name then? Chap, I would guess it was valued locally?? Reptile, I think that was a terrible way for the police to have acted, apart from yes, your disappointment!! So what is the point of the 30 day then? Boyracer dont get cocky, there are nicer ways of saying something! OK ! do you keep all your receipts for ever!! If one can lose a valuable item, like that, its careless, so do you reckon they can take care of a flimsy paper receipt??muffindamul
e, that sounds good, someone else on another case last week sang praises of Germany over something else.. Hmm

leigh-my-town says...
6:32pm Tue 14 Feb 12

For 21k I would want my watch to tell me the future and teleport me through time!!!!

muffindamule says...
6:35pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
wotnoky? what did you not like ?
Caterwood Creeper, no rewards? !, so would you do it the same again? Would you have said if you had lived there? Hw did you come up wth your name then? Chap, I would guess it was valued locally?? Reptile, I think that was a terrible way for the police to have acted, apart from yes, your disappointment!! So what is the point of the 30 day then? Boyracer dont get cocky, there are nicer ways of saying something! OK ! do you keep all your receipts for ever!! If one can lose a valuable item, like that, its careless, so do you reckon they can take care of a flimsy paper receipt??muffindamul

e, that sounds good, someone else on another case last week sang praises of Germany over something else.. Hmm
Those Germans have a lot going for them you know. Ask any Greek;-).

Anyway, naughtylady, can you remember what was being praised ? You've made me curious.

BIRLIS says...
6:55pm Tue 14 Feb 12

boyracer_20yrs old wrote:
Fairplay to this man for handing it in to the police, but I dont think id hand in a £21,000 rolex. Not many people actually would I dont think? Id be straight down town to cash it in!
Nice. Glad he found it, not you.

For info, Rolex need regluar servicing. Rolex will hold details of lost/stolen serial numbers. If a watch that is reported to them is then taken in for a service I understand they take it in and call the police when it is due to be collected from the dealer, so they are not worth nicking if you are going to keep them for any time.

If I ever lose mine I hope you don't find it!

The Cater Wood Creeper says...
6:57pm Tue 14 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
wotnoky? what did you not like ? Caterwood Creeper, no rewards? !, so would you do it the same again? Would you have said if you had lived there? Hw did you come up wth your name then? Chap, I would guess it was valued locally?? Reptile, I think that was a terrible way for the police to have acted, apart from yes, your disappointment!! So what is the point of the 30 day then? Boyracer dont get cocky, there are nicer ways of saying something! OK ! do you keep all your receipts for ever!! If one can lose a valuable item, like that, its careless, so do you reckon they can take care of a flimsy paper receipt??muffindamul e, that sounds good, someone else on another case last week sang praises of Germany over something else.. Hmm
yes, I'd do it again

If I lved there I might have noticed that it is all one word rather than the two I used. Also, if I did, I wouldn't say - but I don't.

The name is taken from someone I know who is known to crep around that road thinking he is intimidating someone who lives down there and used to be one of his bosses.

I thought it sounded good.

Do you live in Shady Lane and just how naughty are you? And, are you, in fact, a Lady?

BIRLIS says...
6:59pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Chap wrote:
Kudos to the Cory chap for handing it in - many wouldn't have done.

And as for the £21,000 valuation? Ridiculous! I don't believe for a minute that it is worth even half that. I wonder who valued it?
A quick look in the current Rolex catalogue shows that gold Daytonas very in price, depending on the exact spec, but are all north of £20k.

Soouthchurch59 says...
7:16pm Tue 14 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
Chap wrote:
Kudos to the Cory chap for handing it in - many wouldn't have done.

And as for the £21,000 valuation? Ridiculous! I don't believe for a minute that it is worth even half that. I wonder who valued it?
A quick look in the current Rolex catalogue shows that gold Daytonas very in price, depending on the exact spec, but are all north of £20k.
It's down to the dramatic rise in gold prices!

Last Poster says...
7:19pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Serves them right. Anybody who pays more than about £60 for a watch has more money than they actually earn. About time someone thought about a fair days pay for a fair days work and got this country moving again. How many people had the union jack in their car in the 60's with the slogan "I'm backing Britain" on it? Not the well of, that's for sure!

BIRLIS says...
7:24pm Tue 14 Feb 12

What a stupid thing to say.

BIRLIS says...
7:26pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
BIRLIS wrote:
Chap wrote:
Kudos to the Cory chap for handing it in - many wouldn't have done.

And as for the £21,000 valuation? Ridiculous! I don't believe for a minute that it is worth even half that. I wonder who valued it?
A quick look in the current Rolex catalogue shows that gold Daytonas very in price, depending on the exact spec, but are all north of £20k.
It's down to the dramatic rise in gold prices!
Very true.

Diannah says...
7:49pm Tue 14 Feb 12

APR wrote:
I was under the impression that the police no longer operated a lost and found service ? I would have reported it to the police and given my mobile number, but hung on to the watch.
You are absolutely right. I found a necklace a couple of years ago and handed it in to the police. When I went back to reclaim it, the police didn't know anything about it and told me that I should have held on to it rather than leave it at the station.

I would guess that the cleaner's chances of the watch not being claimed are dramatically less now that this has been reported in the paper!

APR says...
7:53pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Indeed, silly idea to publish a picture, if indeed that is a picture of the watch in question.

billericay boy says...
8:10pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Looks like Southend council will be looking for a new street cleaner

muffindamule says...
8:16pm Tue 14 Feb 12

APR wrote:
Indeed, silly idea to publish a picture, if indeed that is a picture of the watch in question.
Judging by the time shown it seems unlikely that the photo was taken at the offices of The Echo unless they were working overtime on this story.

I'd claim it as mine but simply don't have the time.

On a serious note, I don't think a photo is going to make any difference as the police will require more than just a description before they hand it over.
As has already been mentioned, a receipt (with serial No.) would probably need to be presented as proof of ownership. At least the serial No. has not been published. That really would be inviting dishonesty !

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
9:54pm Tue 14 Feb 12

muffindamule it was their judiciary/sentencing things like that posts from almeda only last week, if I find I have something on my comp still will let you know ! CWC, I know it was all one word, i used to live that way, but of course one would change it/adapt!, and no of course you would not say, cos you would be stalked. I do not live in Shady Lane, do you know of one, literally called that I mean!, there can be lots of leafy, shady lanes. I am not naughty, well not in the way you mean anyway, dont go asking how do i know what you mean, cos No of course I dont!. I hope I could be called a lady! Last poster, more money than they actually earn ????

emcee says...
10:14pm Tue 14 Feb 12

boyracer_20yrs old wrote:
Fairplay to this man for handing it in to the police, but I dont think id hand in a £21,000 rolex. Not many people actually would I dont think? Id be straight down town to cash it in!
According to the survey at the top of this article, most people would hand it in. So, your idea that "not many" would hand it in seems to be wrong.

muffindamule says...
10:15pm Tue 14 Feb 12

@naughtylady
Thanks. I've not read that and would be interested to see what was said if you do find it.

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
10:18pm Tue 14 Feb 12

muffindamule, if you can get to read the posts on Woman stabbed in westcliff street, one post by Almeda11, dated 8th Feb about the way German families bring their children up, and the way any child abuse is detected and dealt with immediately not like here !! its all a long read the arguments we were having back and forth !!

muffindamule says...
10:18pm Tue 14 Feb 12

emcee wrote:
boyracer_20yrs old wrote:
Fairplay to this man for handing it in to the police, but I dont think id hand in a £21,000 rolex. Not many people actually would I dont think? Id be straight down town to cash it in!
According to the survey at the top of this article, most people would hand it in. So, your idea that "not many" would hand it in seems to be wrong.
Trouble is the survey refers to a watch worth 22,000. The result may have been different had it asked about one worth only 21,000. ;-)

APR says...
10:24pm Tue 14 Feb 12

I assume someone has checked to see if it is a genuine Rolex ?

APR says...
10:28pm Tue 14 Feb 12

Jewellers can be wrong. I used to know a chap who worked for a local company who repaired Omega watches. They were often sent watches by jewellers to be repaired, which were sent straight back as they were not genuine Omegas.

Southendman says...
6:19am Wed 15 Feb 12

Knowing the sort of arrogrant rich gits who live in Leigh and would wear this type of watch, if a guy does comes forward as the rightful owner the street cleaner shouldnt expect a word of thanks or a penny of reward!!!!!

Broadwaywatch says...
8:48am Wed 15 Feb 12

Southendman wrote:
Knowing the sort of arrogrant rich gits who live in Leigh and would wear this type of watch, if a guy does comes forward as the rightful owner the street cleaner shouldnt expect a word of thanks or a penny of reward!!!!!
Thats rather a sweeping statement

Chap says...
8:59am Wed 15 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
Chap wrote: Kudos to the Cory chap for handing it in - many wouldn't have done. And as for the £21,000 valuation? Ridiculous! I don't believe for a minute that it is worth even half that. I wonder who valued it?
A quick look in the current Rolex catalogue shows that gold Daytonas very in price, depending on the exact spec, but are all north of £20k.
In that case, I stand corrected.

Although in my defence you are referring to new ones - have you seen the state of the one in the pic? :-)

r6keith says...
10:44am Wed 15 Feb 12

leigh-my-town wrote:
For 21k I would want my watch to tell me the future and teleport me through time!!!!
At 21K I think my time piece would have four wheels and an engine !

UK Fan says...
11:16am Wed 15 Feb 12

Good to know that there are such honest people around and to the 40% that voted in favour of keeping it be advised, every Rolex has engraved serial numbers in at least one inconspicuous place that is not readily accessible and this is registered at the time of purchase to the rightful owner.

Besides, it doesn't matter how much it is worth. If you find it, it does not mean it belongs to you. Always look at it from your own perspective if you for example lost your wallet, car keys, anything. I am sure you'd be delighted to have that returned to you.

another bloke says...
12:54pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Would a Mr David Dickinson please contact us at the Evening Echo or Southend Police Station.

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
1:39pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Ha Ha, ooh that could be libellous?? southendman that's very cynical? had a bad experience? r6keith, too right !

ethel the frog says...
2:23pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Broadwaywatch wrote:
Southendman wrote:
Knowing the sort of arrogrant rich gits who live in Leigh and would wear this type of watch, if a guy does comes forward as the rightful owner the street cleaner shouldnt expect a word of thanks or a penny of reward!!!!!
Thats rather a sweeping statement
Unfortunately a lot of them are like that.

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
2:31pm Wed 15 Feb 12

yes I s'pose,! anywhere tho eh?

Last Poster says...
3:54pm Wed 15 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
What a stupid thing to say.
I take it then you meant me as your post followed on from me.
Maybe because I missed an "F" off of "The well off" but other than that, how do you arrive at that conclusion. Do you think it is OK to pay £21,000 for a watch which does nothing except indicate the time? Or perhaps that "A fair days work should result in a fair days' pay? Or perhaps that the people the Tories love to call "The wealth creators" do nothing except make money out of money. Surely the true wealth creators are the artisans who actually have the skills to create the goods that others make their money out of. This world of ours is going through change. Perhaps the current position of the gamblers of both the stock market and the banks being part of the 10% of the world that have 90% of its wealth may change.
All only my opinion of course!

Sarah L H says...
4:08pm Wed 15 Feb 12

According to BBC news, a second Rolex plus 2 unbranded watches have also been found in that drain and one nearby.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-ess
ex-17038519
Which makes me think there are some unlucky criminals about.

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
4:55pm Wed 15 Feb 12

oh thats interesing, ! I wonder why the Echo's not got that yet then ?

Blind Haze says...
5:02pm Wed 15 Feb 12

UK Fan wrote:
Good to know that there are such honest people around and to the 40% that voted in favour of keeping it be advised, every Rolex has engraved serial numbers in at least one inconspicuous place that is not readily accessible and this is registered at the time of purchase to the rightful owner. Besides, it doesn't matter how much it is worth. If you find it, it does not mean it belongs to you. Always look at it from your own perspective if you for example lost your wallet, car keys, anything. I am sure you'd be delighted to have that returned to you.
The survey says that 60% of people would hand it in. Although what it doesn't say is where they would hand it in to - a large majority would probably be to a pawnbrokers.

Mr Chips says...
5:09pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Blind Haze wrote:
UK Fan wrote: Good to know that there are such honest people around and to the 40% that voted in favour of keeping it be advised, every Rolex has engraved serial numbers in at least one inconspicuous place that is not readily accessible and this is registered at the time of purchase to the rightful owner. Besides, it doesn't matter how much it is worth. If you find it, it does not mean it belongs to you. Always look at it from your own perspective if you for example lost your wallet, car keys, anything. I am sure you'd be delighted to have that returned to you.
The survey says that 60% of people would hand it in. Although what it doesn't say is where they would hand it in to - a large majority would probably be to a pawnbrokers.
Joking aside, I do feel the these surveys are very spurious. What people would do in theory and what they would do in practice are often very different things. A good example is some of the motorists in Southend....
....oh no, I shouldn't have said that. Cue angry abuse!

Diannah says...
5:23pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Sarah L H wrote:
According to BBC news, a second Rolex plus 2 unbranded watches have also been found in that drain and one nearby. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-ess ex-17038519 Which makes me think there are some unlucky criminals about.
I heard today that the same cleaner found a second Rolex watch and he was interviewed on theJeremy Vine show.

Typical isn't it? You wait ages for one Rolex watch and then two come along together!

Sarah L H says...
6:28pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Anyone from this region flogging a Rolex on ebay might be viewed with suspicion right now in case they also found it (or maybe in case they lost a few).

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
6:42pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Just seen it on TV, the men were interviewed!! I agree about the surveys, you dont have to tell the truth in a survey do you ?

BIRLIS says...
7:13pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Last Poster wrote:
BIRLIS wrote:
What a stupid thing to say.
I take it then you meant me as your post followed on from me.
Maybe because I missed an "F" off of "The well off" but other than that, how do you arrive at that conclusion. Do you think it is OK to pay £21,000 for a watch which does nothing except indicate the time? Or perhaps that "A fair days work should result in a fair days' pay? Or perhaps that the people the Tories love to call "The wealth creators" do nothing except make money out of money. Surely the true wealth creators are the artisans who actually have the skills to create the goods that others make their money out of. This world of ours is going through change. Perhaps the current position of the gamblers of both the stock market and the banks being part of the 10% of the world that have 90% of its wealth may change.
All only my opinion of course!
Yes, I meant your post.

Of course it is OK to spend that on a watch. Why not? In fact, long term. It's a safe place to put your money whilst enjoying it.

And yes, people should be paid for the job they do. Then, if they work hard, they are more likely to be able to buy whatever nice things work for them.

That watch might have been someone's treat after their first decent bonus, it might have been a present or it might have been the result of long term saving. I am sure its rightful owner deserved it though.

BIRLIS says...
7:17pm Wed 15 Feb 12

r6keith wrote:
leigh-my-town wrote:
For 21k I would want my watch to tell me the future and teleport me through time!!!!
At 21K I think my time piece would have four wheels and an engine !
A watch is likely to be a safer place for your money.

BIRLIS says...
7:17pm Wed 15 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
r6keith wrote:
leigh-my-town wrote:
For 21k I would want my watch to tell me the future and teleport me through time!!!!
At 21K I think my time piece would have four wheels and an engine !
A watch is likely to be a safer place for your money.
Unless you lose it!

Last Poster says...
10:39pm Wed 15 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
Last Poster wrote:
BIRLIS wrote:
What a stupid thing to say.
I take it then you meant me as your post followed on from me.
Maybe because I missed an "F" off of "The well off" but other than that, how do you arrive at that conclusion. Do you think it is OK to pay £21,000 for a watch which does nothing except indicate the time? Or perhaps that "A fair days work should result in a fair days' pay? Or perhaps that the people the Tories love to call "The wealth creators" do nothing except make money out of money. Surely the true wealth creators are the artisans who actually have the skills to create the goods that others make their money out of. This world of ours is going through change. Perhaps the current position of the gamblers of both the stock market and the banks being part of the 10% of the world that have 90% of its wealth may change.
All only my opinion of course!
Yes, I meant your post.

Of course it is OK to spend that on a watch. Why not? In fact, long term. It's a safe place to put your money whilst enjoying it.

And yes, people should be paid for the job they do. Then, if they work hard, they are more likely to be able to buy whatever nice things work for them.

That watch might have been someone's treat after their first decent bonus, it might have been a present or it might have been the result of long term saving. I am sure its rightful owner deserved it though.
Your opinion, and of course I too have mine but would not express is so rudely. Then, if you approve of that sort of thing whilst people who have worked hard all their lives are living below the bread line (through no fault of their own other than to be born in a country where selfish is king,) I suppose I should expect nothing else except rudeness from you! I won't comment on your view of "Deserved it" but I would love for you to go to Wakefield, visit the coal mining museum, where hard-working families (including 6-year-old kids) worked in appalling conditions for their slice of crust. Then, using honesty, tell me which was the more deserving, a fair days pay for a fair days work for these poor souls or the silver spooned horror "Earning" his first bonus. Then that's the way of the money grubbers I suppose. Please, though, try not call others stupid because they do not wish to see squander when there is so much squalor!

BIRLIS says...
10:48pm Wed 15 Feb 12

Right-o!

Doubt we'll see eye to eye on this somehow.

Sarah L H says...
12:14pm Thu 16 Feb 12

The Echo needs to catch up!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-ess
ex-17055459

Four expensive watches found in drains in Essex could have been "stashed" there by a criminal according to police. Officers were investigating to see if they were linked to any robberies or burglaries, but the finder still stands to keep the watches unless the owner comes forward within 30 days.

katch22 says...
8:10pm Fri 17 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
wotnoky? what did you not like ?
Caterwood Creeper, no rewards? !, so would you do it the same again? Would you have said if you had lived there? Hw did you come up wth your name then? Chap, I would guess it was valued locally?? Reptile, I think that was a terrible way for the police to have acted, apart from yes, your disappointment!! So what is the point of the 30 day then? Boyracer dont get cocky, there are nicer ways of saying something! OK ! do you keep all your receipts for ever!! If one can lose a valuable item, like that, its careless, so do you reckon they can take care of a flimsy paper receipt??muffindamul

e, that sounds good, someone else on another case last week sang praises of Germany over something else.. Hmm
Perhaps the uniforms?

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
8:44pm Fri 17 Feb 12

to save me reading all thru to what did you reply, could it be the reference to wotnoky, sems so long ago I wrote that ?

katch22 says...
9:28pm Fri 17 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
to save me reading all thru to what did you reply, could it be the reference to wotnoky, sems so long ago I wrote that ?
" someone else on another case last week sang praises of Germany over something else. Hmm"

There are few on here im sure might sing the praises of Germany, only from from yester-year.

naughtyladyofshadylane says...
10:33pm Fri 17 Feb 12

ah, I get you !! Must not hold grudges all this time though, those people are long gone !!

katch22 says...
10:56pm Mon 20 Feb 12

Of course "dont mention the law"

katch22 says...
11:05pm Mon 20 Feb 12

naughtyladyofshadyla
ne
wrote:
ah, I get you !! Must not hold grudges all this time though, those people are long gone !!
OR EVEN "dont mention the war"

Last Poster says...
12:28am Tue 21 Feb 12

BIRLIS wrote:
Right-o!

Doubt we'll see eye to eye on this somehow.
I don't somehow think we will. I am afraid I favour the working man. I also think that your ideas and mine are poles apart. Guess your hero is that man who received a bonus of £15 or £18 million for the red telephone on wheels.
Personally I would have hung him out to dry for insulting my intelligence and perhaps looked to people like the inventor of the "Davey" lamp. How many thousands of lives did he save? or perhaps the crews of our lifeboats. Shouldn't they get the hefty bonuses?

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