Honey, they killed my gas bees

Echo: Tony Norton – upset contractors have killed the bees in his gas meter Tony Norton – upset contractors have killed the bees in his gas meter

THOUSANDS of honey bees nesting in a gas meter were killed by engineers, despite pleas from the home owner to save them.

Tony Norton, 65 of Metz Avenue, Canvey, said his ‘gas bees’ had been there for almost two years, and had started to create honeycombs and nectar.

He warned inspectors for Siemens Energy Services and was assured they would be moved before any work would be carried out.

Just a few hours later, exterminators showed up at his home and killed the entire colony.

It comes just days after Friends of the Earth launched a campaign urging the Government to take urgent action to help put a stop to the decline of bees in the UK.

Mr Norton said: “I’m absolutely disgusted by what’s happened. The bees were not doing any harm to anyone. I know they have to look at the meter, but I was assured the bees would be relocated before they would start anything.

“They’ve just decided to take the cheaper and faster option and kill them all off. They’ve treated them like wasps when the fact is we can’t live without them.

“We may not be able to save these bees, but hopefully they will stop doing this and we can save bees from being killed in the future.”

Recent statistics revealed bee numbers in the UK have fallen by as much as 50 per cent in the last 25 years due to the increased use of common crop pesticides.

A spokesman from Siemens said: “We take the safety of employees and of the general public very seriously.

“This is an unusual place for bees to be nesting and we are looking into the particular circumstances of this incident.”

For more information on the Friends of the Earth campaign, visit www.foe.co.uk

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8:28am Mon 16 Apr 12

Brunning999 says...

To bee or not to bee that was the question!!
To bee or not to bee that was the question!! Brunning999

8:46am Mon 16 Apr 12

Blind Haze says...

I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.
I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun. Blind Haze

9:17am Mon 16 Apr 12

Mudlark1 says...

Blind Haze wrote:
I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.
I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.[/p][/quote]I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact. Mudlark1

9:20am Mon 16 Apr 12

Blind Haze says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Blind Haze wrote: I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.
I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact.
What are you disagreeing with? I've only made reference to the headline.
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.[/p][/quote]I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact.[/p][/quote]What are you disagreeing with? I've only made reference to the headline. Blind Haze

9:25am Mon 16 Apr 12

Squirm says...

Money, money, money...but the execs will say 'Lessons will be learned' and drone drone...zzzzzz. Was that a bee? No we killed them all; it was the sound of our money counter
Money, money, money...but the execs will say 'Lessons will be learned' and drone drone...zzzzzz. Was that a bee? No we killed them all; it was the sound of our money counter Squirm

9:40am Mon 16 Apr 12

A Dermot says...

Most beekeepers will remove colonies of bees for free so there would have been no charge to have them removed. The honeycomb now needs to be disposed of because other bees will rob the old comb and take the poison back to there own colony. Thats why you should never poison a bees nest because other bees will spread the poison to dozens of surrounding colonies.
Most beekeepers will remove colonies of bees for free so there would have been no charge to have them removed. The honeycomb now needs to be disposed of because other bees will rob the old comb and take the poison back to there own colony. Thats why you should never poison a bees nest because other bees will spread the poison to dozens of surrounding colonies. A Dermot

9:59am Mon 16 Apr 12

j-w says...

They have been there two years, plenty of time to get them moved.
Surely a gas meter is no place for a bee hive!
They have been there two years, plenty of time to get them moved. Surely a gas meter is no place for a bee hive! j-w

10:56am Mon 16 Apr 12

heartbeat says...

Mudlark1 wrote:
Blind Haze wrote:
I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.
I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact.
I think the headline is absolutely dreadful and an appalling attempt at journalism!

Surely the "writer" of the piece should have the common sense not to put "Honey" in the headline as the word in that context obviously gives the story an "amusing" slant.When you then read the story it is all about a colony of bees being killed - does the "writer" not realise how important bees are? Not to mention the complete lack of sensitivity the headline shows for the distress of the owner, who had been assured that the bees would come to no harm.

Pretty low depths of "journalism" in my opinion. Hardly the most creative of headlines to use the word "honey" in a story about bees anyway, but to use it when the story is obviously sad about a lot of bees being killed despite assurances is absolutely ridiculous. Surely readers should be moved (just like Mr. Norton) to feel anger at Siemens lying and putting their own profits ahead of the bees' lives? How on earth does "humour" in the headline tie in with the story?
[quote][p][bold]Mudlark1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Haze[/bold] wrote: I think this story has the most nonsensical headline I've ever seen. And I've been known to browse through a copy of The Sun.[/p][/quote]I disagree it's a very important story, the decline in bee numbers has had a major affect on business's, Orchard growers are reliant on bees to polynate their crops, with such a massive decline in bee numbers its already having a damaging effect on them, to kill a colony when they could s easily have been relocated is just mindless. There are many Bee gatherers that would actually have moved the bees on for free saving the gas company money in fact.[/p][/quote]I think the headline is absolutely dreadful and an appalling attempt at journalism! Surely the "writer" of the piece should have the common sense not to put "Honey" in the headline as the word in that context obviously gives the story an "amusing" slant.When you then read the story it is all about a colony of bees being killed - does the "writer" not realise how important bees are? Not to mention the complete lack of sensitivity the headline shows for the distress of the owner, who had been assured that the bees would come to no harm. Pretty low depths of "journalism" in my opinion. Hardly the most creative of headlines to use the word "honey" in a story about bees anyway, but to use it when the story is obviously sad about a lot of bees being killed despite assurances is absolutely ridiculous. Surely readers should be moved (just like Mr. Norton) to feel anger at Siemens lying and putting their own profits ahead of the bees' lives? How on earth does "humour" in the headline tie in with the story? heartbeat

1:06pm Mon 16 Apr 12

frank & monty says...

I've had dealing with Siemens before: this story does not surprise me as they are a total bunch of penny-pinching, amateurish scrotes. They should be prosecuted for this.
I've had dealing with Siemens before: this story does not surprise me as they are a total bunch of penny-pinching, amateurish scrotes. They should be prosecuted for this. frank & monty

1:09pm Mon 16 Apr 12

billericay boy says...

Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them.
Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them. billericay boy

1:38pm Mon 16 Apr 12

A Dermot says...

billericay boy wrote:
Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them.
Honeybees are not protected by law.

Most people think they are - but they aren't.

Most bee colonies have been devastated by Varoa mites, poisoned by pestacides and face the risk of Japenese Hornets crossing the channel - I think the UK has lost some 90% of its bees already.

Perhaps they should have some sort of protection.
[quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them.[/p][/quote]Honeybees are not protected by law. Most people think they are - but they aren't. Most bee colonies have been devastated by Varoa mites, poisoned by pestacides and face the risk of Japenese Hornets crossing the channel - I think the UK has lost some 90% of its bees already. Perhaps they should have some sort of protection. A Dermot

1:50pm Mon 16 Apr 12

emcee says...

For a start this gentleman should not have allowed the "pest" control people onto his property insisting a beekeeper or someone else was to remove them, alive.
Bees should only be killed if they are causing a public health issue. However, they were not and it was only Siemens staff who seemed very nervous of the nest. Legally, Siemens must check a meter at least once a year so why did they not deal with this nest last time. There has been ample time for them to arrange live removal. There was no reason for the urgency to have them killed and Siemens should certainly be condemned for this.
For a start this gentleman should not have allowed the "pest" control people onto his property insisting a beekeeper or someone else was to remove them, alive. Bees should only be killed if they are causing a public health issue. However, they were not and it was only Siemens staff who seemed very nervous of the nest. Legally, Siemens must check a meter at least once a year so why did they not deal with this nest last time. There has been ample time for them to arrange live removal. There was no reason for the urgency to have them killed and Siemens should certainly be condemned for this. emcee

2:08pm Mon 16 Apr 12

billericay boy says...

A Dermot wrote:
billericay boy wrote:
Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them.
Honeybees are not protected by law.

Most people think they are - but they aren't.

Most bee colonies have been devastated by Varoa mites, poisoned by pestacides and face the risk of Japenese Hornets crossing the channel - I think the UK has lost some 90% of its bees already.

Perhaps they should have some sort of protection.
Some say it is some say not but After all, without bees for pollination, we cannot survive)
[quote][p][bold]A Dermot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billericay boy[/bold] wrote: Honeybees are protected by law and it is an offence to kill them.[/p][/quote]Honeybees are not protected by law. Most people think they are - but they aren't. Most bee colonies have been devastated by Varoa mites, poisoned by pestacides and face the risk of Japenese Hornets crossing the channel - I think the UK has lost some 90% of its bees already. Perhaps they should have some sort of protection.[/p][/quote]Some say it is some say not but After all, without bees for pollination, we cannot survive) billericay boy

2:51pm Mon 16 Apr 12

Brunning999 says...

This could bee the end of the world, it certainly looks that way reading some of these comments.

Just let it bee!
This could bee the end of the world, it certainly looks that way reading some of these comments. Just let it bee! Brunning999

2:52pm Mon 16 Apr 12

j-w says...

Is there a fruit shortage then? 90% of bees lost but not 90% of fruit? Are the rest working overtime?
Is there a fruit shortage then? 90% of bees lost but not 90% of fruit? Are the rest working overtime? j-w

4:07pm Mon 16 Apr 12

All 9 of me says...

Echoface
Echoface All 9 of me

12:50pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Alekhine says...

A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings. Alekhine

1:08pm Tue 17 Apr 12

frank & monty says...

Alekhine wrote:
A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article.
3rd paragraph, first line.
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line. frank & monty

1:38pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Lunabelly says...

Sloppy humour attempt in the headline.

Bees are important, and *should* be protected by law.
Sloppy humour attempt in the headline. Bees are important, and *should* be protected by law. Lunabelly

7:01pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Davey B says...

frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article.
3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
[quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man. Davey B

10:25am Wed 18 Apr 12

Alekhine says...

Davey B wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.
[quote][p][bold]Davey B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man.[/p][/quote]Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures. Alekhine

11:34am Wed 18 Apr 12

frank & monty says...

Alekhine wrote:
Davey B wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.
Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph.
Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S.
Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man.[/p][/quote]Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens... frank & monty

12:09pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Alekhine says...

frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
Davey B wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.
Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...
No, i don't work for Siemens.

My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees.
.
This looks like recipe for an accident to me.
[quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man.[/p][/quote]Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...[/p][/quote]No, i don't work for Siemens. My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees. . This looks like recipe for an accident to me. Alekhine

12:28pm Wed 18 Apr 12

frank & monty says...

Alekhine wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
Davey B wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.
Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...
No, i don't work for Siemens. My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees. . This looks like recipe for an accident to me.
Good for you.
I think that you may have mis-read the position: Para 4 says that Mr Norton advised Siemens about the bees, received the necessary assurances, then a few hours later the bee colony was dead.
Instead of doing the right thing, Siemens took the easy option and have earned the resultant ill-feeling.
[quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man.[/p][/quote]Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...[/p][/quote]No, i don't work for Siemens. My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees. . This looks like recipe for an accident to me.[/p][/quote]Good for you. I think that you may have mis-read the position: Para 4 says that Mr Norton advised Siemens about the bees, received the necessary assurances, then a few hours later the bee colony was dead. Instead of doing the right thing, Siemens took the easy option and have earned the resultant ill-feeling. frank & monty

2:54pm Wed 18 Apr 12

Alekhine says...

frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote:
Davey B wrote:
frank & monty wrote:
Alekhine wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.
Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.
Well quoted that man.
Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.
Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...
No, i don't work for Siemens. My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees. . This looks like recipe for an accident to me.
Good for you. I think that you may have mis-read the position: Para 4 says that Mr Norton advised Siemens about the bees, received the necessary assurances, then a few hours later the bee colony was dead. Instead of doing the right thing, Siemens took the easy option and have earned the resultant ill-feeling.
My original post was simply the question who would be liable if someone got injured.
.
Ill feeling to Siemens aside it appears the bees were there for 2 years but Mr Norton only advised Siemens of this a matter of hours before the workmen turned up.
.
Must have been a long time since Mr Norton had the meter read - very lucky for him as he would be liable for not reporting the hazard.
.
Caveat gasman.
[quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank & monty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alekhine[/bold] wrote: A nice surprise for an unsuspecting gasman trying to read the meter. I wonder if Mr Norton would accept liability if his bees put someone in hospital. There are lots of people dangerously allergic to bee stings.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article. 3rd paragraph, first line.[/p][/quote]Well quoted that man.[/p][/quote]Try reading the second paragraph. The bees have been there for almost 2 years. You have a lot of trust in Siemen's procedures.[/p][/quote]Funnily enough I did read the second paragraph. Regrettably Mr Norton put his trust in Siemens, but found out the hard way that they are full of B.S. Struggling to see your point here; presumably you work for Siemens...[/p][/quote]No, i don't work for Siemens. My point is that you are trusting Siemens not to send anybody to read the meter over a 2 year period since being advised (presumable 2 years ago) about the bees. . This looks like recipe for an accident to me.[/p][/quote]Good for you. I think that you may have mis-read the position: Para 4 says that Mr Norton advised Siemens about the bees, received the necessary assurances, then a few hours later the bee colony was dead. Instead of doing the right thing, Siemens took the easy option and have earned the resultant ill-feeling.[/p][/quote]My original post was simply the question who would be liable if someone got injured. . Ill feeling to Siemens aside it appears the bees were there for 2 years but Mr Norton only advised Siemens of this a matter of hours before the workmen turned up. . Must have been a long time since Mr Norton had the meter read - very lucky for him as he would be liable for not reporting the hazard. . Caveat gasman. Alekhine

4:09pm Wed 18 Apr 12

frank & monty says...

Cheers.
Cheers. frank & monty

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