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Party kids kicked out of venue alone at 4am
11:00am Monday 11th June 2012 in News By Emma Palmer
Disgusted – Danielle Hargrave, Casey Edwards, Tina Edwards and Jodie Preston
MORE than 100 children were turfed out on to the street at 4am after their sleepover party was scrapped due to their wild behaviour.
Parents were left fuming after staff at Partyman World, in Basildon, called time on the overnight bash four hours early, resulting in youngsters as young as 11 and 12 walking home alone.
Billy Alder, 12, walked all the way from the play centre, on the Burnt Mills industrial estate, to his home in Laindon, while Casey Edwards and Jodie Preston, both 14, walked back to Wickford.
Around 115 youngsters were at the party on Wednesday to celebrate the 14th birthday of Danielle Hargrave, who attends Beauchamps High School, in Wickford.
The 8pm to 8am party was supposed to see the youngsters, who were all asked to pay £10 each to attend, enjoying snacks, entertainment and time on the soft play equipment, before crashing down in their sleeping bags.
However, the party turned sour when some youngsters started drinking alcohol and smoking.
Staff at the centre decided to stop the event at 4.15am, leaving the youngsters to fend for themselves outside. Mum Tina Edwards, 42 of Friern Gardens, Wickford, fumed: “I am absolutely disgusted at what has happened.
“My two daughters were thrown out and didn’t get home until 6.30am.
“They had to walk from Partyman World all the way back to Wickford and I am furious about it.
“The thought of children on the street at that time is unthinkable.
“The party was stopped because there were some cigarettes and alcohol. My daughters weren’t involved, yet they still had to leave.”
Sherie Adler’s son also attended the party. The mum, from Somercotes, Laindon, added: “They should have made sure every parent was telephoned.
“My son didn’t have any credit on his phone and he says nobody said they could use the phone inside the play centre.
“God knows what could have happened to my son or any other child. It makes me shudder.”
Some parents have threatened to contact the police and social services, claiming play centre staff should have got the children home safely.
However, Partyman company director, Aaron Othman, defended the firm’s actions, saying he was left with broken tables, smashed lights and one heck of a mess.
Mr Othman said: “This whole thing was just an absolute nightmare.
“We’ve had more than 50 sleepover parties and we have never had any trouble on this scale before.
“We had tables smashed, cables broken, the toilet was completely blocked and there was food scattered all over the play equipment.”
Three members of staff and some parents were on site to supervise, but trouble came to a head when a large group of children began smoking on the soft play equipment.
He said: “Kids had been smuggling in alcohol in fizzy drink bottles as well as cigarettes and we searched every child and confiscated a load of stuff over the course of the party.
“It was was towards the end, when they were posing a massive fire risk, that it got too much.”
Mr Othman, who is now considering whether to hold these parties in the future, added: “We said to every child we’d ring their parents if they didn’t have any credit on their phone and said they could wait inside for a lift, but a load of them just walked off.”
Comments(78)
captain mannering
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11:11am Mon 11 Jun 12
All 9 of me wrote:exactly what i was thinking. their behavior was to blame. every kid has a phone these days. the staff could have kept an eye on them to make sure they got picked up ok. but no sympathy from me here
none of them had phones to call their parents ?
probably glad to be going outside to finish their cider and Evo-Stik
Max 269
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11:15am Mon 11 Jun 12
I doubt that a club of over 18 year olds would shut because of a few trouble makers. Any way just goes to show kids trying yo grow up to quick and think they can party like the big boys.
Russ13
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11:27am Mon 11 Jun 12
OK, the majority of the kids there would have been behaving themselves but as always there's a small minority that spoil it for everyone, that's life, it's been happening for years and it will always happen.
If we take what Mr Othman's been quoted as saying as the truth then in my opinion Partyman World did all they could if they offered the use of the phone to those who couldn't call home and for them to wait inside the building.
Let's have a look at a couple of other possibilities:
1) A fire started because of kids smoking in there and people got injured/killed as a result
2) Partyman World refused to let the kids out until their parents turned up
I would say in both of those situations there would be equally damning headlines of negelgence and/or false imprisonment.
Partyman World were in a no win situation here and to add insult to injury must also foot the bill to clean/repair the damage caused.
saysterry1
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11:37am Mon 11 Jun 12
R85
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11:54am Mon 11 Jun 12
Also, if drinks were confiscated from them then they’ve not going to go there again are they – they’ll probably end up drinking in a park or similar like 99% of young people have done! As a teen I would never have gone somewhere they could confiscate alcohol!
R85
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11:55am Mon 11 Jun 12
nicknows
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12:13pm Mon 11 Jun 12
One would assume that the parents of Danielle Hargrave were amongst those supervising. They should have known every child attending the party and contacted their parents to collect them.
It would seem that this is a case of a spoilt brat having a party for a whole bunch of spoilt brats who have no respect for other people, rules that are there for not only their own safety but the safety of others or for that matter their parents.
If I was a parent of a child at the party the last thing I would be doing is bleating to the local paper, the police or social services. They have a care of duty to their children and social services might take the attitude that the child was in danger and living with unfit parents!
No I would be looking at my parenting skills!!!!!
sendos
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12:48pm Mon 11 Jun 12
I agree it was wrong not to ensure all parents had been informed but then again, if you let your child attend a sleepover surely you should make sure they can contact you if needed.
Phil Sick
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12:49pm Mon 11 Jun 12
this country is screwed
HadleighBoy
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1:25pm Mon 11 Jun 12
RobertFS
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1:29pm Mon 11 Jun 12
Surely the parents must know who had been invited!
Sorry, maybe not, as the children were paying £10 to come to the party. So it should Partyman world who should take responsibility.
So no one had a mobile? I don't remember seeing a child in the street without her hand stuck to her ear or thumbing her way through a text.
If some had left them at home (unlikely) or run out of credit, then don't they have any friends? Just look at the facebook profile - there are thousands and I guess many where there.
Finally don't the parents have responsibility or is this a basildon/wickford/la
indon etc ethos?
R85
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2:40pm Mon 11 Jun 12
HadleighBoy wrote:You’re honestly trying to tell us that you didn’t drink or smoke or anything at 14? I guess it depends where you grew up, but where I grew up the majority were drinking and smoking from around 14 (I’m still the only one out of all my mates that doesn’t smoke). Some from as young as 12 or so!
Why on earth is a 14 year old having an all night party and why on earth are preatns letting their children as young as 11 go.
The idea of having a place where you can drink, smoke and have an all night party at 14 years old would have been perfect!
Russ13
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2:46pm Mon 11 Jun 12
R85 wrote:Well I can honestly say I've never even tried smoking or drugs as they just never appealed to me and I didn't even drink alcohol until I was nearly 18. It was completely my choice, I've always been one to make my own choices and never conformed to mob mentality which seems to be the norm now.
HadleighBoy wrote: Why on earth is a 14 year old having an all night party and why on earth are preatns letting their children as young as 11 go.You’re honestly trying to tell us that you didn’t drink or smoke or anything at 14? I guess it depends where you grew up, but where I grew up the majority were drinking and smoking from around 14 (I’m still the only one out of all my mates that doesn’t smoke). Some from as young as 12 or so! The idea of having a place where you can drink, smoke and have an all night party at 14 years old would have been perfect!
Just because "the majority" do it when they're underage doesn't make it right so your arguement like you're logic is fundamentally flawed.
HadleighBoy
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2:49pm Mon 11 Jun 12
R85 wrote:Drink yes, smoke no, all night party where 100+ children were given permission by their parents and paid £10 certainly not.
HadleighBoy wrote: Why on earth is a 14 year old having an all night party and why on earth are preatns letting their children as young as 11 go.You’re honestly trying to tell us that you didn’t drink or smoke or anything at 14? I guess it depends where you grew up, but where I grew up the majority were drinking and smoking from around 14 (I’m still the only one out of all my mates that doesn’t smoke). Some from as young as 12 or so! The idea of having a place where you can drink, smoke and have an all night party at 14 years old would have been perfect!
UK Fan
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3:40pm Mon 11 Jun 12
I am 53 and I still remember raising hell on such occassions. Not during a commercial type of sleepover, that didn't exist then but nevertheless.
The only thing such sleepovers are not going to ever see is anybody sleeping. That's the whole idea of it.
Away from your parents, play let rip and all that. It is part of growing up and is completely independent of nationality, religion or any other strongly held belief.
Our kids used to stay out with the judo club on occassion and yes, the went mad like everybody else. They both drank with the other but none of the admittedly private organisers ever considered the need for such action. If you can't beat them, join them. That's not to say that the people looking after the kids should get drunk too but rather join in the general melee.
Also, passing judgment based on an article in the Echo may prove to be just a tad unfair and premature. Just read the article about a woman claiming to have been raped and then, after everybody expressing their disgust at this most likely having been committed by a foreigner (as usual), withdrew the charges since they were false.
Remember the bit about everybody being innocent until proven guilty?
v.randy
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4:02pm Mon 11 Jun 12
100 kids sleeping together ,smoking ,booze well I s'pose it gets them ready for a life of baby dropping,fags,booze and lovely benefits and of course a free house in a couple of years..if they can wait that long ..that is..
Alekhine
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4:18pm Mon 11 Jun 12
Democrat
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4:31pm Mon 11 Jun 12
rjsizzler
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4:45pm Mon 11 Jun 12
I'd be pretty confident these kids *chose* to walk home rather than *had to* walk home. As if none of them had credit on their phones.
An alternative, slightly more accurate headline for this story may be:
"Party kids wreck venue, get thrown out then complain"
tepluap
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6:02pm Mon 11 Jun 12
dizzypop06
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6:07pm Mon 11 Jun 12
I don't condone the children's behaviour, but most teenagers experiment at some time, it does not mean they are bad, After all, teenagers are called that because the are not still children, but are not yet adults.
If 'adults' can't take responsibility for accepting money for something they are not capable of supervising, how can we expect kids or teenagers to learn how to take responsibility for themselves.
The venue MUST have taken phone numbers of each and every parent of the children they were supervising and were utterly responsible for phoning each parent to ensure the safe return of all of the kids. It is wrong to expect kids to take responsibility for phoning their parents, as it is quite possible some of them don't have phones and those supervising should have at least checked if they couldn't be bothered to phone themselves. A fine example the 'Adults' have set for those not yet grown up!
Russ13
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6:49pm Mon 11 Jun 12
dizzypop06 wrote:And that succinctly sums up the problem and why we have a "yoof" problem in this country! Always someone else's fault!
It is completely the venue's responsibility to ensure the children in their care are safe! If they can't control unruly children they should not be holding all night parties.
I don't condone the children's behaviour, but most teenagers experiment at some time, it does not mean they are bad, After all, teenagers are called that because the are not still children, but are not yet adults.
If 'adults' can't take responsibility for accepting money for something they are not capable of supervising, how can we expect kids or teenagers to learn how to take responsibility for themselves.
The venue MUST have taken phone numbers of each and every parent of the children they were supervising and were utterly responsible for phoning each parent to ensure the safe return of all of the kids. It is wrong to expect kids to take responsibility for phoning their parents, as it is quite possible some of them don't have phones and those supervising should have at least checked if they couldn't be bothered to phone themselves. A fine example the 'Adults' have set for those not yet grown up!
It is not up to a venue such as Partyman World to discipline unruly brats!!
If their behaviour got that bad and criminal damage occurred it is down to the kids and their parents.
If a 14 year old went to the cinema unsupervised would you expect the cinema to take their details down prior to letting them come in? How about Adventure Island?
The only difference here is the location and time involved and to that point the parents should have had some kind of contingency plan in place should their little cherub decide they wanted to come home early, i.e. ensure that they had credit on their phone for starters.
In no way, shape of form is this the venue's fault.
resident3
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7:33pm Mon 11 Jun 12
rjsizzler wrote:Well at least the "kids" have learnt a valuable lesson
I don't think the point is whether any of us were ever a bit unruly as teenagers, it's that this lot are moaning about the outcome of their behaviour like it's someone else's fault.
I'd be pretty confident these kids *chose* to walk home rather than *had to* walk home. As if none of them had credit on their phones.
An alternative, slightly more accurate headline for this story may be:
"Party kids wreck venue, get thrown out then complain"
In life, there are consequences to pay for your actions.
Lesson to learn: If you don't want to be kicked out, behave yourself!!
dizzypop06
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7:50pm Mon 11 Jun 12
A visit to the cinema or adventure island or any other day time venue is completely off the point! It is like saying a school does not have any responsibility and can kick the entire school out at any time it chooses without informing the parents. What an uproar that would cause, even in the relative safety of daylight!!
Also, each of these daytime venues are completely responsible for the safety of EVERY person who walks through their doors and would have completed many health and safety assessments, based on the nature of their business (which would obviously not include overnight care).
These kids were in the hands of the organisers overnight, who when they took the money, were contracted to be the primary carers for those hours and were bound by their moral and legal obligations to keep them safe.
The 'Yoof' problem as you put it is fueled by a media hyped frenzy, who feed on the narrow minded and harshly judgemental attitudes of those who are quick to blame the youth for its problems, rather than to look at where society as a whole has failed them!
Partyman
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9:12pm Mon 11 Jun 12
Seasider90
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10:34pm Mon 11 Jun 12
All 9 of me
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11:44pm Mon 11 Jun 12
resident3 wrote:lesson 2 : If you don't want to look like a tw*t, don't spend too long on the sunbed.
rjsizzler wrote:Well at least the "kids" have learnt a valuable lesson
I don't think the point is whether any of us were ever a bit unruly as teenagers, it's that this lot are moaning about the outcome of their behaviour like it's someone else's fault.
I'd be pretty confident these kids *chose* to walk home rather than *had to* walk home. As if none of them had credit on their phones.
An alternative, slightly more accurate headline for this story may be:
"Party kids wreck venue, get thrown out then complain"
In life, there are consequences to pay for your actions.
Lesson to learn: If you don't want to be kicked out, behave yourself!!
whataloadofbull
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6:28am Tue 12 Jun 12
were did these 14yr old.kids get alcohol?, certainly not the corner shop, again more than likely they got it from there parents so again bad parenting skills for letting these young kids access to it.
always the same with these parents, my little jonny would.never do anything like that, yeah right wake up and smell the roses.
Phil Sick
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7:10am Tue 12 Jun 12
Partyman wrote:'The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman'
Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.
So who pocketed over 1,000 pounds ? The parents ?
Oh, how much more unsavoury can this story get ?
another council tax payer
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7:43am Tue 12 Jun 12
Phil Sick wrote:spot on mate
The behaviour of (some of) these kids paints a rather sad, disturbing yet accurate picture of modern day England . . . littered with chavs who possess very little life skills, respect or pride
this country is screwed
resident3
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8:47am Tue 12 Jun 12
Partyman wrote:Ah, now that sounds more like it.
Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.
Unfortunately, newspapers rarely let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Thanks for this!
R85
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8:58am Tue 12 Jun 12
Russ13 wrote:It seems more like you have the sheep mentality because I can’t imagine anyone at whatever age getting drunk because the majority was – my mates weren’t that weak minded. Kids/teens whatever get drunk because they want to, because its fun! Did you drink at that age because your friends did then? If so then that’s some fundamentally flawed logic!!!
R85 wrote:Well I can honestly say I've never even tried smoking or drugs as they just never appealed to me and I didn't even drink alcohol until I was nearly 18. It was completely my choice, I've always been one to make my own choices and never conformed to mob mentality which seems to be the norm now. Just because "the majority" do it when they're underage doesn't make it right so your arguement like you're logic is fundamentally flawed.HadleighBoy wrote: Why on earth is a 14 year old having an all night party and why on earth are preatns letting their children as young as 11 go.You’re honestly trying to tell us that you didn’t drink or smoke or anything at 14? I guess it depends where you grew up, but where I grew up the majority were drinking and smoking from around 14 (I’m still the only one out of all my mates that doesn’t smoke). Some from as young as 12 or so! The idea of having a place where you can drink, smoke and have an all night party at 14 years old would have been perfect!
Just sounds like you didn’t have an overly fun youth!
Russ13
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9:47am Tue 12 Jun 12
R85 wrote:My teenage years were fun thanks, I had a large group of friends who I socialised with most Friday/Saturday nights. Some of them drank, some didn't but we all had fun and more importantly we all knew where to draw the line with our behaviour knowing that if we misbehaved it was highly probable our parents would find out and we'd be given a good telling off and/or grounded!
Russ13 wrote:It seems more like you have the sheep mentality because I can’t imagine anyone at whatever age getting drunk because the majority was – my mates weren’t that weak minded. Kids/teens whatever get drunk because they want to, because its fun! Did you drink at that age because your friends did then? If so then that’s some fundamentally flawed logic!!! Just sounds like you didn’t have an overly fun youth!R85 wrote:Well I can honestly say I've never even tried smoking or drugs as they just never appealed to me and I didn't even drink alcohol until I was nearly 18. It was completely my choice, I've always been one to make my own choices and never conformed to mob mentality which seems to be the norm now. Just because "the majority" do it when they're underage doesn't make it right so your arguement like you're logic is fundamentally flawed.HadleighBoy wrote: Why on earth is a 14 year old having an all night party and why on earth are preatns letting their children as young as 11 go.You’re honestly trying to tell us that you didn’t drink or smoke or anything at 14? I guess it depends where you grew up, but where I grew up the majority were drinking and smoking from around 14 (I’m still the only one out of all my mates that doesn’t smoke). Some from as young as 12 or so! The idea of having a place where you can drink, smoke and have an all night party at 14 years old would have been perfect!
Like a lot of things in life, I started drinking when I did because it felt right at the time.... I made my own mind up that I wanted to try it.
Blind Haze
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10:24am Tue 12 Jun 12
Serpco4
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10:44am Tue 12 Jun 12
Russ13 wrote:Kids are Kids, It has to be the venues fault, having under qualified staff in charge on 115+ kids, also the legal adult to child ratio is 1- 15 which means 8 qualified staff, Surely “Partyman” should know better than to leave 3 staff and a few parents in charge.
dizzypop06 wrote:And that succinctly sums up the problem and why we have a "yoof" problem in this country! Always someone else's fault!
It is completely the venue's responsibility to ensure the children in their care are safe! If they can't control unruly children they should not be holding all night parties.
I don't condone the children's behaviour, but most teenagers experiment at some time, it does not mean they are bad, After all, teenagers are called that because the are not still children, but are not yet adults.
If 'adults' can't take responsibility for accepting money for something they are not capable of supervising, how can we expect kids or teenagers to learn how to take responsibility for themselves.
The venue MUST have taken phone numbers of each and every parent of the children they were supervising and were utterly responsible for phoning each parent to ensure the safe return of all of the kids. It is wrong to expect kids to take responsibility for phoning their parents, as it is quite possible some of them don't have phones and those supervising should have at least checked if they couldn't be bothered to phone themselves. A fine example the 'Adults' have set for those not yet grown up!
It is not up to a venue such as Partyman World to discipline unruly brats!!
If their behaviour got that bad and criminal damage occurred it is down to the kids and their parents.
If a 14 year old went to the cinema unsupervised would you expect the cinema to take their details down prior to letting them come in? How about Adventure Island?
The only difference here is the location and time involved and to that point the parents should have had some kind of contingency plan in place should their little cherub decide they wanted to come home early, i.e. ensure that they had credit on their phone for starters.
In no way, shape of form is this the venue's fault.
Also in an earlier post they say “Partyman” has to foot the bill for the cleanup, If the venue wasn’t filthy in the first place it wouldn’t cost that much.
Major Incident
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11:29am Tue 12 Jun 12
Partyman wrote:So, do Partyman's insurers know that all night childrens events are held?
Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.
Do they ensure that ALL supervising adults hold current CRB check certificates? The parents charging £10 a head and supposedly responsible for supervision may require CRB checks.
Did they report the criminal damage to the police? They'll need the crime report number for the insurance claim.
Will the parents be satisfied with their little bit of local paper fame or will they act responsibly and report this to the police and local authority as there are serious implications with regard to the availability of alcohol during the event, smoking inside the premises and the failure of Partyman in their duty of care towards the children.
Have the parents actually taught their children what to do if they are stranded without cash or phone credit? The 0800 REVERSE service is free from any phone including mobiles.
End the blame culture, get a grip and accept responsibility for your own action, or inaction.
Russ13
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11:57am Tue 12 Jun 12
1) Those who take responsibility for their own and their kids actions.
2) Those who who don't take responsibility for their own and their kids actions and will look to blame everyone/everything else for basic lack of discipline and poor behaviour.
If it isn't Partyman World it's RollaCity, if it's not RollaCity it'll be somewhere else where the kids are dropped at the door and there ends the parent's responsibility for their kids' conduct.
The staff at these venues have a duty of care towards customers in terms of Health & Safety but the venues also have a duty of care towards their employees and must consider if their safety is at risk.
It's not up to staff to have to put up with unruly behaviour. Let's not forget that smoking in a public building is ILLEGAL, without the added fact that it was in a soft play area with increased risk of fire. For that alone the offenders should have been ejected.
mr_happy
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12:19pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Russ13
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12:22pm Tue 12 Jun 12
mr_happy wrote:You're forgetting that according to some people who've commented on this story, that "normal" behaviour for kids of that age group and should be expect.
We let a group of kids (10 to 14 year-olds) use our venue once, for a party. They broke into a store room, stole drink and caused lots of damage. We threw them out. Who would not?
Maybe next time leave the key to the store room so they don't have to cause any damage to get to the booze? ;-)
R85
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12:37pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Russ13 wrote:It is normal and should be expected but there’s a big difference between something being expected and something being tolerated! It should never be tolerated, despite it being the norm!
mr_happy wrote: We let a group of kids (10 to 14 year-olds) use our venue once, for a party. They broke into a store room, stole drink and caused lots of damage. We threw them out. Who would not?You're forgetting that according to some people who've commented on this story, that "normal" behaviour for kids of that age group and should be expect. Maybe next time leave the key to the store room so they don't have to cause any damage to get to the booze? ;-)
halojump
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3:03pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Major Incident wrote:possibly the most stupid comment i have read for a while.
Partyman wrote: Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.So, do Partyman's insurers know that all night childrens events are held? Do they ensure that ALL supervising adults hold current CRB check certificates? The parents charging £10 a head and supposedly responsible for supervision may require CRB checks. Did they report the criminal damage to the police? They'll need the crime report number for the insurance claim. Will the parents be satisfied with their little bit of local paper fame or will they act responsibly and report this to the police and local authority as there are serious implications with regard to the availability of alcohol during the event, smoking inside the premises and the failure of Partyman in their duty of care towards the children. Have the parents actually taught their children what to do if they are stranded without cash or phone credit? The 0800 REVERSE service is free from any phone including mobiles. End the blame culture, get a grip and accept responsibility for your own action, or inaction.
Partyman world have done no wrong and have every rite to let their facility day or night. When signing in children to play areas or arriving at the start of the party the parents who booked it agree to be on site and it is these parents who enter into an agreement with the venue NOT the children.
These parents have also entered into a verbal or written argeement with the invited childrens parents (party invite) and take responsability for these children unless they ask that parents stay present.
(as you would for young children, for children with disabilitys and behaviour problems)
so when conditions of the argreement are broken (which would be if any misuse of equipment or law infringments (underage drinking and smoking in a public place)
As with a pub if the venue feels any of these are taking place they can ask someone or the whole group to leave and dont need to call the police unless refusal to leave is experianced.
The silly comment on insurance is out of this world as this company are well known for their facititys and dont cut corners in safety, presentation, and in giving a fantastic experiance to children.
Partyman world please keep up the good work in giving children a good play experiance , my son attends a speicalist school who reward the children for hard work with visits to partyman world every term and he has alway had the best experiance.
v.randy
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3:35pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Not one in a hundred.
So one must deduce that either they can't write or they're to busy topping up the sun tan.
Shame on you !!!!!!!!!!!!
andy:)
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5:18pm Tue 12 Jun 12
So it was the parents charging £10 a head, did Partyman do it for free ?
Whilst inviting a small group of friends for a sleepover is acceptable, having 100+ kids at an all night party surely was only every going to end up like this.
article
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5:51pm Tue 12 Jun 12
I think its so wrong that there saying we was aloud to ring our parents or wait there until our parents came which is such a lie. Ill state exactly what they said, on the microphone they announced 'Im so sorry that i have to say this but yous all have to go home' that was it end off. Everyone walked out worried how they was going to get home, some battery's where gone due to not being able to charge our phones there. Also my two mates were waiting outside waiting to be picked up shivering with there quilts wrapped around them and the girl worker stated to the man worker saying 'aw look at them girls freezing let them in while there waiting jack' he then replied 'no' whilst shutting the main entrance doors.
As for the food they got some chrisps and biscuits out for 114 children and a few jugs of drink and that was it, surely not enough for how many children was there.
Also to all the people saying it was our parents responsibility, well no it wasnt at the time our parents dropped us of knowing that we will be safe in partyman world and expected to be picked up at 8.30 in the morning. It was there responsibility they was payed to look after us as soon as we walked in them doors until we walked out.
Even if there was something bad that happened they should find the people that done it and chucked them out and not ruining everyone elses fun.
They discard there responsibility to let us out without contacting any of our parents which is wrong, 114 kids chucked out on the streets in there pj's and there quilts shivering. Anything could of happened to any of the children at that time in the morning, God for bid if anythink did.
I think its so wrong that everyone is believing what there seeing in the newspapers, if you want to know the truth go down to party man world in basildon and look at the cctv youll soon see the truth.
I would like to say believe whatever, but before you start judging by one newspaper make sure you hear two sides of the story as i think that newspaper is being biast. Obviously partyman world are going to say things so they dont look like the bad ones because they was in the wrong, not saying anyones angels but remember theres two sides of a story and i think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story before they start judging.
Thankyou!
dizzypop06
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5:53pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Russ13 wrote:The issue is not about the venue organisers or supervisors deciding to end the party. They were quite within their right to do that and they should not have to put up with unruly behaviour. It is of course the parents responsibility to bring their children up to behave. The venue is not being blamed for the kids bad behaviour or for ending the party.
Think there's a very distinct division in the people commenting on this story:
1) Those who take responsibility for their own and their kids actions.
2) Those who who don't take responsibility for their own and their kids actions and will look to blame everyone/everything else for basic lack of discipline and poor behaviour.
If it isn't Partyman World it's RollaCity, if it's not RollaCity it'll be somewhere else where the kids are dropped at the door and there ends the parent's responsibility for their kids' conduct.
The staff at these venues have a duty of care towards customers in terms of Health & Safety but the venues also have a duty of care towards their employees and must consider if their safety is at risk.
It's not up to staff to have to put up with unruly behaviour. Let's not forget that smoking in a public building is ILLEGAL, without the added fact that it was in a soft play area with increased risk of fire. For that alone the offenders should have been ejected.
The point is that the venue did not organise the eviction of the kids in a safe manner. This is where their responsibility lies, they SHOULD have ensured every parent was contacted before allowing them to walk out in the early hours of the morning, not a very safe time of day. If there had been a tragic end to this story, an enquiry would surely be asking questions about who was responsible for allowing kids to wander the street, whilst their parents were completely unaware of the unsafe predicament of their children.
Doris70
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5:56pm Tue 12 Jun 12
smiler:)
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6:38pm Tue 12 Jun 12
article wrote:The legal age to smoke is 18 actually. Not 16.
I was here, and i'm disgusted of the lies that have been told in the newspapers. Thats why i never believe whats in the papers. Im not just saying this to stick up for anyone because ill tell the truth. Yes people where smoking but they was not smoking on the premises, and the people that was smoking was aged 16 which is a legal age to smoke, id understand if they was younger but they wernt. The fact about the alcohol, is that every single person was checked before everyone went into there, even down to opening the bottles of juice and energy drinks they opened them and smelt them just to make sure we didnt which i understand. The girls went to the girl worker to get checked and the same for the boys going to the man the worked there to get checked.
I think its so wrong that there saying we was aloud to ring our parents or wait there until our parents came which is such a lie. Ill state exactly what they said, on the microphone they announced 'Im so sorry that i have to say this but yous all have to go home' that was it end off. Everyone walked out worried how they was going to get home, some battery's where gone due to not being able to charge our phones there. Also my two mates were waiting outside waiting to be picked up shivering with there quilts wrapped around them and the girl worker stated to the man worker saying 'aw look at them girls freezing let them in while there waiting jack' he then replied 'no' whilst shutting the main entrance doors.
As for the food they got some chrisps and biscuits out for 114 children and a few jugs of drink and that was it, surely not enough for how many children was there.
Also to all the people saying it was our parents responsibility, well no it wasnt at the time our parents dropped us of knowing that we will be safe in partyman world and expected to be picked up at 8.30 in the morning. It was there responsibility they was payed to look after us as soon as we walked in them doors until we walked out.
Even if there was something bad that happened they should find the people that done it and chucked them out and not ruining everyone elses fun.
They discard there responsibility to let us out without contacting any of our parents which is wrong, 114 kids chucked out on the streets in there pj's and there quilts shivering. Anything could of happened to any of the children at that time in the morning, God for bid if anythink did.
I think its so wrong that everyone is believing what there seeing in the newspapers, if you want to know the truth go down to party man world in basildon and look at the cctv youll soon see the truth.
I would like to say believe whatever, but before you start judging by one newspaper make sure you hear two sides of the story as i think that newspaper is being biast. Obviously partyman world are going to say things so they dont look like the bad ones because they was in the wrong, not saying anyones angels but remember theres two sides of a story and i think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story before they start judging.
Thankyou!
Kids of today...........
smiler:)
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6:41pm Tue 12 Jun 12
What is this country coming to!
Major Incident
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10:32pm Tue 12 Jun 12
halojump wrote:Until you have spent several years earning the right to add LLB after your name, keep to the facts (instead of insults and biased comment) and gain the correct understanding of legal responsibilities, torts and criminal law.
Major Incident wrote:possibly the most stupid comment i have read for a while. Partyman world have done no wrong and have every rite to let their facility day or night. When signing in children to play areas or arriving at the start of the party the parents who booked it agree to be on site and it is these parents who enter into an agreement with the venue NOT the children. These parents have also entered into a verbal or written argeement with the invited childrens parents (party invite) and take responsability for these children unless they ask that parents stay present. (as you would for young children, for children with disabilitys and behaviour problems) so when conditions of the argreement are broken (which would be if any misuse of equipment or law infringments (underage drinking and smoking in a public place) As with a pub if the venue feels any of these are taking place they can ask someone or the whole group to leave and dont need to call the police unless refusal to leave is experianced. The silly comment on insurance is out of this world as this company are well known for their facititys and dont cut corners in safety, presentation, and in giving a fantastic experiance to children. Partyman world please keep up the good work in giving children a good play experiance , my son attends a speicalist school who reward the children for hard work with visits to partyman world every term and he has alway had the best experiance.Partyman wrote: Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.So, do Partyman's insurers know that all night childrens events are held? Do they ensure that ALL supervising adults hold current CRB check certificates? The parents charging £10 a head and supposedly responsible for supervision may require CRB checks. Did they report the criminal damage to the police? They'll need the crime report number for the insurance claim. Will the parents be satisfied with their little bit of local paper fame or will they act responsibly and report this to the police and local authority as there are serious implications with regard to the availability of alcohol during the event, smoking inside the premises and the failure of Partyman in their duty of care towards the children. Have the parents actually taught their children what to do if they are stranded without cash or phone credit? The 0800 REVERSE service is free from any phone including mobiles. End the blame culture, get a grip and accept responsibility for your own action, or inaction.
What this organisation apparently do very well during the day by no means exonerates them for something they didn't do too well during the night. Their normal business is not facilitating sleepovers but providing day time play experiences therefore the insurance issue is very pertinent. However, my main point is for those involved to stop making accusations and apportioning blame and to start accepting responsibility for their part in this whole sorry fiasco, learn from it and never let it happen again so that people like you and your son can continue to enjoy the venue facilities safely.
Rachie
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11:04pm Tue 12 Jun 12
smiler:) wrote:Actually... the legal age to BUY cigarettes is 18. The legal age to SMOKE them has never been amended.
article wrote:The legal age to smoke is 18 actually. Not 16.
I was here, and i'm disgusted of the lies that have been told in the newspapers. Thats why i never believe whats in the papers. Im not just saying this to stick up for anyone because ill tell the truth. Yes people where smoking but they was not smoking on the premises, and the people that was smoking was aged 16 which is a legal age to smoke, id understand if they was younger but they wernt. The fact about the alcohol, is that every single person was checked before everyone went into there, even down to opening the bottles of juice and energy drinks they opened them and smelt them just to make sure we didnt which i understand. The girls went to the girl worker to get checked and the same for the boys going to the man the worked there to get checked.
I think its so wrong that there saying we was aloud to ring our parents or wait there until our parents came which is such a lie. Ill state exactly what they said, on the microphone they announced 'Im so sorry that i have to say this but yous all have to go home' that was it end off. Everyone walked out worried how they was going to get home, some battery's where gone due to not being able to charge our phones there. Also my two mates were waiting outside waiting to be picked up shivering with there quilts wrapped around them and the girl worker stated to the man worker saying 'aw look at them girls freezing let them in while there waiting jack' he then replied 'no' whilst shutting the main entrance doors.
As for the food they got some chrisps and biscuits out for 114 children and a few jugs of drink and that was it, surely not enough for how many children was there.
Also to all the people saying it was our parents responsibility, well no it wasnt at the time our parents dropped us of knowing that we will be safe in partyman world and expected to be picked up at 8.30 in the morning. It was there responsibility they was payed to look after us as soon as we walked in them doors until we walked out.
Even if there was something bad that happened they should find the people that done it and chucked them out and not ruining everyone elses fun.
They discard there responsibility to let us out without contacting any of our parents which is wrong, 114 kids chucked out on the streets in there pj's and there quilts shivering. Anything could of happened to any of the children at that time in the morning, God for bid if anythink did.
I think its so wrong that everyone is believing what there seeing in the newspapers, if you want to know the truth go down to party man world in basildon and look at the cctv youll soon see the truth.
I would like to say believe whatever, but before you start judging by one newspaper make sure you hear two sides of the story as i think that newspaper is being biast. Obviously partyman world are going to say things so they dont look like the bad ones because they was in the wrong, not saying anyones angels but remember theres two sides of a story and i think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story before they start judging.
Thankyou!
Kids of today...........
smiler:)
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1:44am Wed 13 Jun 12
Rachie
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7:28am Wed 13 Jun 12
smiler:) wrote:Actually a reasonable question would be 'Why do I feel the need to belittle a child for their spelling and make inaccurate statements in order to raise doubt over a posting'?.
My mistake, but then that begs the question which of these childrens PARENTS bought them cigarettes??!!
I do NOT condone the behaviour written about in the Echo. Health and Safety would dictate that smoking and drinking on such premises is a stupid thing to do regardless of age!
However, the teenager came on and gave her side of the story in a full and thorough manner. It may be inaccurate, but it may not. As she says, there is CCTV footage and if it shows otherwise the centre could use it to prosecute guilty parties for criminal damage.
Its very easy to choose to believe an adult over a child, but there is no point in commenting on 'youth today' if you're not even prepared to let them speak for themselves.
gem8
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9:42am Wed 13 Jun 12
halojump
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10:04am Wed 13 Jun 12
Major Incident wrote:i do understand contracts very well thank you as should anyone who signs one invloving their children or others.
halojump wrote:Until you have spent several years earning the right to add LLB after your name, keep to the facts (instead of insults and biased comment) and gain the correct understanding of legal responsibilities, torts and criminal law. What this organisation apparently do very well during the day by no means exonerates them for something they didn't do too well during the night. Their normal business is not facilitating sleepovers but providing day time play experiences therefore the insurance issue is very pertinent. However, my main point is for those involved to stop making accusations and apportioning blame and to start accepting responsibility for their part in this whole sorry fiasco, learn from it and never let it happen again so that people like you and your son can continue to enjoy the venue facilities safely.Major Incident wrote:possibly the most stupid comment i have read for a while. Partyman world have done no wrong and have every rite to let their facility day or night. When signing in children to play areas or arriving at the start of the party the parents who booked it agree to be on site and it is these parents who enter into an agreement with the venue NOT the children. These parents have also entered into a verbal or written argeement with the invited childrens parents (party invite) and take responsability for these children unless they ask that parents stay present. (as you would for young children, for children with disabilitys and behaviour problems) so when conditions of the argreement are broken (which would be if any misuse of equipment or law infringments (underage drinking and smoking in a public place) As with a pub if the venue feels any of these are taking place they can ask someone or the whole group to leave and dont need to call the police unless refusal to leave is experianced. The silly comment on insurance is out of this world as this company are well known for their facititys and dont cut corners in safety, presentation, and in giving a fantastic experiance to children. Partyman world please keep up the good work in giving children a good play experiance , my son attends a speicalist school who reward the children for hard work with visits to partyman world every term and he has alway had the best experiance.Partyman wrote: Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.So, do Partyman's insurers know that all night childrens events are held? Do they ensure that ALL supervising adults hold current CRB check certificates? The parents charging £10 a head and supposedly responsible for supervision may require CRB checks. Did they report the criminal damage to the police? They'll need the crime report number for the insurance claim. Will the parents be satisfied with their little bit of local paper fame or will they act responsibly and report this to the police and local authority as there are serious implications with regard to the availability of alcohol during the event, smoking inside the premises and the failure of Partyman in their duty of care towards the children. Have the parents actually taught their children what to do if they are stranded without cash or phone credit? The 0800 REVERSE service is free from any phone including mobiles. End the blame culture, get a grip and accept responsibility for your own action, or inaction.
I hire play equipment at weekends out to others and i recieve a signiture from the parents when i arrive at the event which means they take responsability for the use of the equipment even if i am staying on site i am not responsible for the safety of the children as its a private hire. Same goes for private hire of venues on arrival the hirer (a parent) signs a declaration and agrees to abide by the rules and accept responsability for any injury or damage the occurs. Enhanced CRB checks are needed for staff but not for parents and it is upto the party guests parents to vet who they are leaving their children with in terms of suitable parents. As for partyman world they are a diverse and well know entertainment company who offer onsite and offsite facilitys for children and adults, as such they have public liability insurance and will be well covered for events day and night. With idiots like you who think people can only understand contract law and responsability with years of education its no wonder we have this blame culture for compensation and people defaulting on loans blaming it on banks lending it to them in the first place.
nicknows
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10:54am Wed 13 Jun 12
I would assume that the parents of the child who’s party it was were in attendance and therefore regardless of the actions of the event venue they SHOULD have taken control of the situation. If they were not in attendance then the other parents SHOULD have done so.
I am sure that the supervising parents had their vehicles there and therefore they could have run a taxi service for those who were unable to arrange to be collected.
As to the posting by an attendee of the event I admire your courage to go public with such a poorly worded and badly spelt article – Remove tongue for cheek.
In fact it would appear to be more than adequate to gain you employment with the Echo!
Major Incident
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11:18am Wed 13 Jun 12
Blind Haze
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11:25am Wed 13 Jun 12
Phil Sick
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12:24pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Blind Haze wrote:when you say 'fags' do you mean cigarettes or men dressed as ladies ?
I'm thinking of holding my next birthday party there although I'm struggling to find another 114 people to join me. Would any of you Echo contributors like to come too? There'll be beer, fags and Party Rings.
Blind Haze
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12:27pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Phil Sick wrote:I don't know the identities or lifestyles of most the Echo contributors so your guess is as good as mine...
Blind Haze wrote: I'm thinking of holding my next birthday party there although I'm struggling to find another 114 people to join me. Would any of you Echo contributors like to come too? There'll be beer, fags and Party Rings.when you say 'fags' do you mean cigarettes or men dressed as ladies ?
Matthew of Basildon
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1:22pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Blind Haze wrote:You had me at party rings!
Phil Sick wrote:I don't know the identities or lifestyles of most the Echo contributors so your guess is as good as mine...Blind Haze wrote: I'm thinking of holding my next birthday party there although I'm struggling to find another 114 people to join me. Would any of you Echo contributors like to come too? There'll be beer, fags and Party Rings.when you say 'fags' do you mean cigarettes or men dressed as ladies ?
Wait a minute, hold on now... Will there be... Cold chicken nuggets???
Blind Haze
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2:26pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Matthew of Basildon wrote:I think that's a given, a bit like the cold pizza. I guess people must wait half an hour after the food is cooked before bringing it out!
Blind Haze wrote:You had me at party rings! Wait a minute, hold on now... Will there be... Cold chicken nuggets???Phil Sick wrote:I don't know the identities or lifestyles of most the Echo contributors so your guess is as good as mine...Blind Haze wrote: I'm thinking of holding my next birthday party there although I'm struggling to find another 114 people to join me. Would any of you Echo contributors like to come too? There'll be beer, fags and Party Rings.when you say 'fags' do you mean cigarettes or men dressed as ladies ?
Squirrelkins
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3:48pm Wed 13 Jun 12
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rjsizzler
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4:12pm Wed 13 Jun 12
shirley13
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5:55pm Wed 13 Jun 12
dizzypop06
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6:20pm Wed 13 Jun 12
little ray of sunshine
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6:45pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Running to the paper though has made you all look nothing short of foolish. Lesson learnt i should imagine.
Blind Haze
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8:42pm Wed 13 Jun 12
No venue in their right mind would throw kids/teenagers onto the street at 4am, let alone for no reason which some of these posts would suggest.
Grow up - you behaved like the children you are and got your just rewards.
dizzypop06
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11:06pm Wed 13 Jun 12
Blind Haze wrote:"Grow up - you behaved like the children you are and got your just rewards."
Completely agree with little ray of sunshine. These attendees come onto this thread saying 'well we didn't break much' and 'we weren't all smoking and drinking'...
No venue in their right mind would throw kids/teenagers onto the street at 4am, let alone for no reason which some of these posts would suggest.
Grow up - you behaved like the children you are and got your just rewards.
It is kind of the point that actually they are not grown up, unless you think children should be born as adults, then you may have to put up with children acting like children!
Blind Haze
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9:20am Thu 14 Jun 12
dizzypop06 wrote:They were behaving like children by trying to defend their actions - what species they behaved like inside the venue is anyone's guess.
Blind Haze wrote: Completely agree with little ray of sunshine. These attendees come onto this thread saying 'well we didn't break much' and 'we weren't all smoking and drinking'... No venue in their right mind would throw kids/teenagers onto the street at 4am, let alone for no reason which some of these posts would suggest. Grow up - you behaved like the children you are and got your just rewards."Grow up - you behaved like the children you are and got your just rewards." It is kind of the point that actually they are not grown up, unless you think children should be born as adults, then you may have to put up with children acting like children!
VoiceMumbles
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4:27pm Thu 14 Jun 12
Wehatepartyman
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7:50pm Thu 14 Jun 12
Blind Haze
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10:04am Fri 15 Jun 12
Wehatepartyman wrote:Are you saying that Partyman threw you all out for no reason at 4am?
The paper is a load of crap I was there I couldn't smell any smoke or see anyone drinking. Alright the toilets were blocked because someone needed a poo but that's natural and alright a table and a light was broke but there weren't I fire hazard
All 9 of me
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10:13am Fri 15 Jun 12
Rachie wrote:belittle a child ?? It's no wonder the 'yoof of 2day' are not respected when they can't even do something as simple as switch the spellchecker on. Still, I'm sure she and her 8 kids will do well out of the taxpayer
smiler:) wrote:Actually a reasonable question would be 'Why do I feel the need to belittle a child for their spelling and make inaccurate statements in order to raise doubt over a posting'?.
My mistake, but then that begs the question which of these childrens PARENTS bought them cigarettes??!!
I do NOT condone the behaviour written about in the Echo. Health and Safety would dictate that smoking and drinking on such premises is a stupid thing to do regardless of age!
However, the teenager came on and gave her side of the story in a full and thorough manner. It may be inaccurate, but it may not. As she says, there is CCTV footage and if it shows otherwise the centre could use it to prosecute guilty parties for criminal damage.
Its very easy to choose to believe an adult over a child, but there is no point in commenting on 'youth today' if you're not even prepared to let them speak for themselves.
Wehatepartyman
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8:47pm Fri 15 Jun 12
Partyman wrote:Yeah really I was there I waited inside and all you done was make us go outside so stop lying and stop being idiots about it!
Partyman World of Play would like to make it clear that this was a private sleepover party booked by parents who agreed to our terms and conditions that they would ensure there were responsible adults at the party and that they would be responsible for the guests. The family were charging £10 for each guest to attend not Partyman and every effort was made to ensure that the children went home safely. All children were asked to wait inside, however, a small group insisted on walking home alone.
shirley13
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10:31pm Fri 15 Jun 12
essex_oracle
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10:49pm Fri 15 Jun 12
Parents allowing their children to stay out until 4am?
...£10 for my little sailor/princess out of the house for the night?
"I'll 'ave some of that"
Ramius_76
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1:41pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Wehatepartyman wrote:That must have been a huge poo!!
The paper is a load of crap I was there I couldn't smell any smoke or see anyone drinking. Alright the toilets were blocked because someone needed a poo but that's natural and alright a table and a light was broke but there weren't I fire hazard
All 9 of me says...
11:01am Mon 11 Jun 12
probably glad to be going outside to finish their cider and Evo-Stik