Toddler sees pet mauled to death by a rottweiler (From Echo)

terrible tragedy and totally preventable

i agree, ALL dogs should be muzzled in public and these 'status' dogs need to be eradicated from society - you tend to find that such owners possess a much lower IQ than the animal itself

Phil Sick wrote:
terrible tragedy and totally preventable

i agree, ALL dogs should be muzzled in public and these 'status' dogs need to be eradicated from society - you tend to find that such owners possess a much lower IQ than the animal itself

It won't be long before someone (probably the owner of a dodgy dog ) points out that not all dogs can be muzzled. To this I say if the dog can't be muzzled then it must not be allowed out of its kennel or pen/ its owners property. This will make the dogs unattractive to keep as pets and the lucrative business of breeding them will cease. Win win.

Quote: "Insp Chris Higgins said police were desperately trying to trace the rottweiler’s owners."
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May I suggest something radical, Insp Higgins? I doubt this dog would have roamed too far from it's home so how about making house to house enquiries over the whole area to see who owns the dog. Simple. Or is it you are waiting to see if the CPS will prosecute, to safeguard wasting your time if they don't. I suggest the latter and that this incident, along with others in the past, will be swept under the carpet.

Terribly sad, id have beaten the thing to death with my bare hands if it had did that to my dog, then the owner

emcee wrote:
Quote: "Insp Chris Higgins said police were desperately trying to trace the rottweiler’s owners." - May I suggest something radical, Insp Higgins? I doubt this dog would have roamed too far from it's home so how about making house to house enquiries over the whole area to see who owns the dog. Simple. Or is it you are waiting to see if the CPS will prosecute, to safeguard wasting your time if they don't. I suggest the latter and that this incident, along with others in the past, will be swept under the carpet.

Agreed.
Obviously "to inspect" is not part of an Inspector's job description these days.

is it the same rottweiler that attacked that poor kiddie on the beach some time ago?

This unfortunately won't be the last pet (or child) that is mauled or killed.
Why on earth do we tolerate these animals ?
It's no good coming out with the usual .."It's not the dog, it's the owner" ..
Guns and knives don't kill people either, it's their owners.

i agree with all the above but stupid people are now crossing these dogs, we need to out the breed and have a law where they are casterated and sprayed and the owners must carry proof of this from the vets, to stop people breeding them this the only way to get rid of the breed i hate these dogs as i and my dog has been bitten twice now so i will not take any of my dogs out at all not worth the risk. i wont even take my german shepard out, the goverment need to act now instead of sitting on their butts taking about gay laws sick of it, and why does southend not do anything about it by saying ALL dogs to be kept on leads as i dont mind doing this, for the safety of my dogs as well as others and those that are found of leads min on the spot fine of 100.00 with a warning next time the dog is taken of them.

Lets face it the only people that own these vicious dogs are either drug dealers or breed them for fighting. So find the dogs and chuck the owners in jail where they belong and put a bullet in the dogs head.

Here is a lady who speaks sense. Even after this terrible experience not once has Mrs Cribb held the dog responsible but laid the blame in the correct place at the owners door. A dog only knows what it has been taught or what it has been allowed to do. I hope the owner is severely penalised and banned from keeping dogs for life and this family recover from their trauma.

If you follow that argument through to it's logical conclusion. As I said before, why is it illegal to carry a gun or knife in public ?

They are not dangerous either

The day my Jack Russell bites ANY child, he WILL be put down, and as MUCH as I Love him.

My dog had been ill-treated before I rehomed him 11 years ago, but I will NOT tolerate a child being bitten by him, UNLESS the child was to blame.

I have a grandson (4 on Saturday next) who has been attacked by another dog, and so scared of any dogs, and when he visits me, I DO put my dog out of the way, so to speak.

I hate all this attitude that all dogs must be kept on leads and all dogs much be muzzled.
Anyone whos dog attacks should take responsibility for it. Also I think it is mandatory for dogs to attend dog training classes. Alot of people need to learn how to keep theit dog under control and how to deal with different situations. I do agree that if you can not trust that your dog will behave then you must keep it on the lead.
I have a german shepherd and let her off the lead everyday when I take her to the field so she can socialise with other dogs however when a new dog comes on I keep her close so I can make sure there is no incidents. Dogs are like people we cant get on with everyone but the owners need to be able to control the situation and know not be foolish.

i May I suggest something radical, Insp Higgins?

Now two hundred houses/homes in the immediate area. One officer on his own will take how long? and that's not including those houses where there is no answer. So another officer has to come back and try those houses/homes.

So at least two officers will be taken off main duty to knock on all these doors.

I bet you're the sort of idiot who complains that Police never answer calls.

I walked my English bull terrier through the Kursaal estate last night. There was two Staffs and a Rottweiler all off the lead running around. My dog is only young and steers clear of other dogs if he can since being bitten. Those owners wouldn't have had a chance of catching their dogs had they run off.

£1.600 worth of treatment and the poor dog still had to be put to sleep. I love my dog more than anything else in the world but if she had been badly injured I would like to know my vet would be honest enough about the prognosis to let the poor dog go before racking up a huge bill for themselves. This happening to my beloved dog is my worse nightmare and I can't imagine how this family is feeling. It also says in the article a neighbour warned them the dog had escaped from a back garden so the police must know who owns it if this person knew where it came from.

As an owner of two Rottweilers I think it's appalling what happened to the jack russel. The Rottie in question should be destroyed for what it did, I have no doubt about that as it's what I would do if it were one of mine. But to write off the whole breed is unfair. The RSPCA reports show that attacks from Labradors and spaniels are reported more than rottweilers. Due to the size and power of a Rottie they obviously do more damage.
I don't walk mine on a lead, I generally take them out to places we don't come across people as I understand people are weary of them. If I do come across people or other animals I put a lead on them, not because I need to but so other people need not worry and to protect them form being attacked. My 9 year old has been bitten 3 times by west highland terriers and my 2 year old has been bitten by a staffie. Not at anytime did either of them retaliate. I take my young Rottie to training classes to help socialise her as she is a rescue dog. Rotties are loving, loyal and intelligent dogs in the right hands. I make sure mine are never at risk and that other people or animals aren't either. The owner of the dog in question couldn't have cared enough about the dog to train it properly.
If laws were put in place to license dogs, spay/neuter, microchip and tattoo I would do all of that to protect them. I'm am against breeding so both of mine have been neutered also. I'm sure some people will still give me grief for owning Rottweilers but I love my dogs and will defend them till the day I die.

drofmor1 wrote:
£1.600 worth of treatment and the poor dog still had to be put to sleep. I love my dog more than anything else in the world but if she had been badly injured I would like to know my vet would be honest enough about the prognosis to let the poor dog go before racking up a huge bill for themselves. This happening to my beloved dog is my worse nightmare and I can't imagine how this family is feeling. It also says in the article a neighbour warned them the dog had escaped from a back garden so the police must know who owns it if this person knew where it came from.

I was thinking much the same myself with regards identifying the owner as well as the horrendous vet's bill. It may of course be that the vet had warned that the chances of effective treatment were slim but that the dog's owner insisted on going ahead regardless. I could understand that if it were the case.

I have to take issue with Curbishly (comment above) in that he/she seems to be assuming a worst case scenario. It is very unlikely, imho, that a police officer would need to call on every resident of an estate in order to receive the information required. I reckon he would have that info very quickly. It is one thing for a resident to passively neglect doing his duty of informing on the dog's owner but quite a different matter to deny knowledge when specifically asked. I dare say that by now there are very few people on the estate who do not know who the person responsible was !

All of these dogs seem to be "kind and loving", right up until the point they attack someone.

If the rottweiler owner is a home owner, there should be a claim against their home insurance.

When I first got my stupid soft looking dog it was attacked by a rottie or should that be rotten.
The owner when i had ago threaten to hit me and set the rottie on to my dog again.
My soft stupid dog was original bred, was to fight of wolfs.
The owner had to run after his rottie. I have been uneaseay since . this happened again a year later when another rotten attacked my dog the lady owner had the rotten on one of those extending leads and it broke it, the rotten knocked me over and went for my dog and got the shock of its life.
Saying that dogs have friend and two she plays with are very big rotties as nice as can be.
It should be as some councillors have called for agian and agian all dogs in southend parks open spaces should be chipped and if they are not the person with the dog is fined.
were there are cameras/camara car etc these can detect the chip and if the dog is off the lead etc on the highway teh owners fined.

Three weeks ago I was walking my lurcher along a footpath in the local housing estate, when an off lead Jack Russell came running at us growing and attacked my dog.
The Jack Russell was muzzled, but the muzzle was poorly fitted or the wrong size, and came off as it went for my dog.
My dog is too big to pick up, at 27" tall at weighing 27kg. So I was kicking and punching this little dog to get it away. No owner in sight, and no collar on the dog attacking.
My dog sustained two deep wounds which needed vetinary treatment, and I was also bitten by the dog.
The only way we managed to escape this nasty little dog was because a man heard me screaming and let me run into his house for cover from the attacking dog.
The dog has not been found, neither has the owner. The police and dog warden ar aware though. It was truely terrifying at the time. I'm very lucky my dog didn't sustain worse injuries. Even the little dogs can do a lot of damage.
My heart goes out to the family who sadly lost thier dog in this attack.
Unfortunatley muzzling dogs doesn't always work, as proven by the dog that attacked us. The muzzles are only any good if they are properly fitted and the correct size and type for the dog.

it's time to so something, next time it could be a child, or just dont allow chavs to have dogs, or any kind of pets they can't look after them and turn them into killing machines.

Mary anne wrote:
it's time to so something, next time it could be a child, or just dont allow chavs to have dogs, or any kind of pets they can't look after them and turn them into killing machines.

it's time to DO something sorry

Nobody should own a dog, or take one out in public, which they are incapable of controlling if it goes into attack mode.

emcee wrote:
Quote: "Insp Chris Higgins said police were desperately trying to trace the rottweiler’s owners."
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May I suggest something radical, Insp Higgins? I doubt this dog would have roamed too far from it's home so how about making house to house enquiries over the whole area to see who owns the dog. Simple. Or is it you are waiting to see if the CPS will prosecute, to safeguard wasting your time if they don't. I suggest the latter and that this incident, along with others in the past, will be swept under the carpet.

Don't talk crazy. That would mean leaving the warmth of the office/car!!!

I saw a woman and she must have been in her 80s walking a rotty off the lead in the park with maybe her great grand daughter who was about 5 or 6. Can she control her dog ? If her dog was fighting with another dog or strayed off to play with another dog or play with some kids, would she be able to control it and sort it out ? She was walking at a half mph and had a walking stick. Is this woman capable of controlling her dog ?

Terry2says wrote:
I saw a woman and she must have been in her 80s walking a rotty off the lead in the park with maybe her great grand daughter who was about 5 or 6. Can she control her dog ? If her dog was fighting with another dog or strayed off to play with another dog or play with some kids, would she be able to control it and sort it out ? She was walking at a half mph and had a walking stick. Is this woman capable of controlling her dog ?

I quite agree. The same when you see a young child walking a big dog.

No the dog that attacked the boy on the beach is in the dog pound at the police station, awaiting sentence. As is the owner Rowan Diedricks, who because he suddenly believes himself to be a hero, has kept this poor family waiting for yet another nine weeks before he is sentenced. Which will hopefully be on 25th. June. Yet again it's the irresponsible owner, who is at fault.

Also, the story of what happened to your little dog cherry, is so sad. I too think dogs must be muzzled. Surely that's he answer.

Let's face it the law wont even toughen up against youngsters who carry knives so why would they protect us against dangerous dogs.

Meanwhatisay,
Muzzles are indeed the answer to making potential biting dogs a lot safer. However, there are always a few dog owners who will always insist that having to muzzle their dogs is just penalising the innocent because of the actions of a few. However, in truth, muzzleing these dogs is an "inconvenience" to these dog owners and a "vanity" issue with others. I mean, who wants to walk down the road with little "Poochums" in an unsightly muzzle. After all, little "Poochums" will not bite anyone... would he?