Southend Airport opens business lounge for private jet passengers (From Echo)

looks good....

I thought the stobart hilton was for the olympics another red herring council fooled again

the image above the article is a live feed video of the lounge,, lol

jayman wrote:
the image above the article is a live feed video of the lounge,, lol

Looks a lot less empty than your brain. lol

maxell wrote:
I thought the stobart hilton was for the olympics another red herring council fooled again

Of course they just build a hotel for the Olympics... Give me strength.
Accept it Maxell and jayman. The Airport is thriving (again) and you cant bear it.
Recent Articles show that the Airport is on target for half the 2million passengers per year in year one (yet we dont see total anarchy and grid lock around) and customer satisfaction surveys show very high approval rates.
http://www.aviation.
ca/content/view/1216
2/117/

BASILBRUSH wrote:

maxell wrote: I thought the stobart hilton was for the olympics another red herring council fooled again

Of course they just build a hotel for the Olympics... Give me strength. Accept it Maxell and jayman. The Airport is thriving (again) and you cant bear it. Recent Articles show that the Airport is on target for half the 2million passengers per year in year one (yet we dont see total anarchy and grid lock around) and customer satisfaction surveys show very high approval rates. http://www.aviation. ca/content/view/1216 2/117/

Those apposed to the airport said so much before so a few questions:

Whatever happened to the flights every 5 minutes at busy times, where is the gridlock...

Still looking still can not find them...

jayman wrote:
the image above the article is a live feed video of the lounge,, lol

yes it is a live feed, we invited all your friends & as you can see.........

Interesting that on the radio the airport rep said that they did not have to lay on extra planes for the Olympics they were able to fill the planes
ie. The planes flying intoh Southend are not full
and
Not that many are coming here as either the planes were fairly full beforehand or not.
In whichever way you look at it. A bit of an Olympic flop/
No wonder they needed the celebs jets and boy i dont see them paddling down the beach !

jolllyboy wrote:
Interesting that on the radio the airport rep said that they did not have to lay on extra planes for the Olympics they were able to fill the planes
ie. The planes flying intoh Southend are not full
and
Not that many are coming here as either the planes were fairly full beforehand or not.
In whichever way you look at it. A bit of an Olympic flop/
No wonder they needed the celebs jets and boy i dont see them paddling down the beach !

Another quality well thought out post from jolllyboy.

BASILBRUSH wrote:

jolllyboy wrote:
Interesting that on the radio the airport rep said that they did not have to lay on extra planes for the Olympics they were able to fill the planes
ie. The planes flying intoh Southend are not full
and
Not that many are coming here as either the planes were fairly full beforehand or not.
In whichever way you look at it. A bit of an Olympic flop/
No wonder they needed the celebs jets and boy i dont see them paddling down the beach !

Another quality well thought out post from jolllyboy.

Were you able to make head or tail of that if so well done.

So the planes are not full but fairly full...

Most airports have a business lounge for private jets, why would a celeb or a businessman who has a private jet fly easyjet its just another service, on offer at the airport.

I realise its early days but at the moment it would seem that there is not the amount of use of the airport for the Olympics as it was suggested there would be.
It appears that up to now most visitors to the games have flown into Stanstead, Gatwick or Heathrow. but as I said...early days. Would love to think that Southend as a whole will indeed prosper as was indicated that it would. Considering that the Cultural events in London at the moment are not doing so well (as reported by the media) then perhaps we might get an influx of tourists to our very own cultural centre at the end of the pier, The Longest Pleasure Pier in the World.

Must try it when I next fly in.

Where can I leave my Jet?

Brunning999 wrote:
Must try it when I next fly in.

Where can I leave my Jet?

LOL

What you will probably find the charter airlines and private jet operators is that Southend Airport is an unknown eliment.

The time between the airport coming back to full operational use and the Olympics is just too short amount of time for them to see just how well the airport can operate.

They know the service that are in place at Luton, Stansted and Gatwick so stuck with what they know. Had the games been next year then the situation would have been diffrent as the reputation of the service offerd by the airport would have been known.

There has been no wool pulling of the eyes what so ever if that is what you beleive than you really are a fool.

I imagine that this new lounge will attract more business to the airport. Will it happen immediately, of course not. The ony question we need to ask is, "is the revamped airport proving to be a success?". The answer can only be a very big YES. Apologies to all the doubters who are now wiping huge amounts of egg off their faces. I notice that the SAEN website is being revamped. If they remove all the lies they told there will be little left.

Max Impact wrote:
What you will probably find the charter airlines and private jet operators is that Southend Airport is an unknown eliment.

The time between the airport coming back to full operational use and the Olympics is just too short amount of time for them to see just how well the airport can operate.

They know the service that are in place at Luton, Stansted and Gatwick so stuck with what they know. Had the games been next year then the situation would have been diffrent as the reputation of the service offerd by the airport would have been known.

There has been no wool pulling of the eyes what so ever if that is what you beleive than you really are a fool.

I am not quite sure who your last rude comment was directed at!

Broadwaywatch wrote:

Max Impact wrote: What you will probably find the charter airlines and private jet operators is that Southend Airport is an unknown eliment. The time between the airport coming back to full operational use and the Olympics is just too short amount of time for them to see just how well the airport can operate. They know the service that are in place at Luton, Stansted and Gatwick so stuck with what they know. Had the games been next year then the situation would have been diffrent as the reputation of the service offerd by the airport would have been known. There has been no wool pulling of the eyes what so ever if that is what you beleive than you really are a fool.

I am not quite sure who your last rude comment was directed at!

Not you it was more for the likes of Jayman, jolllyboy and maxell, who constantly bleat on about how the people of Southend have been tricked into the airport expanding.

Max Impact wrote:

Broadwaywatch wrote:

Max Impact wrote: What you will probably find the charter airlines and private jet operators is that Southend Airport is an unknown eliment. The time between the airport coming back to full operational use and the Olympics is just too short amount of time for them to see just how well the airport can operate. They know the service that are in place at Luton, Stansted and Gatwick so stuck with what they know. Had the games been next year then the situation would have been diffrent as the reputation of the service offerd by the airport would have been known. There has been no wool pulling of the eyes what so ever if that is what you beleive than you really are a fool.

I am not quite sure who your last rude comment was directed at!

Not you it was more for the likes of Jayman, jolllyboy and maxell, who constantly bleat on about how the people of Southend have been tricked into the airport expanding.

i just think of all the statements from the airport in the early days of its expansion about how it was so important for the Olympics. i also remember the airport saying it will bring economic growth to non airport related Southend businesses such as tourism and retail I also read in the BBC today about how businesses across London are struggling, the type of businesses that usually thrive this time of year.

so if our capital city is finding it hard how in gods name is Southend fairing?

I guess the general atmosphere down the high street gives us some indication.

lets face it. Southends answer to an airport is an overspill from the 'desired' airports, it will never have the glamour or appeal of an international hub and will just bump along the bottom, soaking up the leftovers from Stansted.

project (Southend airport) will never completely die im sure.

its like a knackered horse who's owner has just given it new shoes and a saddle at great expense, to proud to get off and to stupid to have it turned into glue..

here is the qualifying factor of my opinion.

had Stobart/SBC proposed massive expansion to the airport. Upset a few golfers by expanding in a big and meaningful way. if (for instance) this had incorporated the cut and cover of the railway line and the road off warners bridge and the expansion of the runway north east and the widening of the runway to allow bigger medium to long hall planes, then (under these circumstances) I would have given it some credit for bold engineering and achievement. the public of Southend and Rochford would need to be compensated handsomely for the loss of property value and disruption under these conditions but at least it would have economic, long term merit, however the environmental impact would be extreme. the current situation is lacklustre, prohibitive to competition and rests its hole future on one or two models of what aviation will look like in the near future.

so, my honest 'grown up' opinion is Southend airport is vulnerable to change, to developed and established to incorporate future runway expansion and to closely populated to allow any future public support should any further growth be required other then stated.

of course I would love to see jobs and growth in Southend, but im a realist max.. And i wait for it to really happen before I get excited..

jayman wrote:

Max Impact wrote:

Broadwaywatch wrote:

Max Impact wrote: What you will probably find the charter airlines and private jet operators is that Southend Airport is an unknown eliment. The time between the airport coming back to full operational use and the Olympics is just too short amount of time for them to see just how well the airport can operate. They know the service that are in place at Luton, Stansted and Gatwick so stuck with what they know. Had the games been next year then the situation would have been diffrent as the reputation of the service offerd by the airport would have been known. There has been no wool pulling of the eyes what so ever if that is what you beleive than you really are a fool.

I am not quite sure who your last rude comment was directed at!

Not you it was more for the likes of Jayman, jolllyboy and maxell, who constantly bleat on about how the people of Southend have been tricked into the airport expanding.

i just think of all the statements from the airport in the early days of its expansion about how it was so important for the Olympics. i also remember the airport saying it will bring economic growth to non airport related Southend businesses such as tourism and retail I also read in the BBC today about how businesses across London are struggling, the type of businesses that usually thrive this time of year.

so if our capital city is finding it hard how in gods name is Southend fairing?

I guess the general atmosphere down the high street gives us some indication.

lets face it. Southends answer to an airport is an overspill from the 'desired' airports, it will never have the glamour or appeal of an international hub and will just bump along the bottom, soaking up the leftovers from Stansted.

project (Southend airport) will never completely die im sure.

its like a knackered horse who's owner has just given it new shoes and a saddle at great expense, to proud to get off and to stupid to have it turned into glue..

I don't think any of us ever expected Southend Airport to rival Stansted or Gatwick but I think it can survive very well on a reasonable number of short to medium haul flights. I think that more smaller airlines will also find Southend has advantages and we may well see more flights moving here.
Further more drastic measures to surroundings in addition to the very reasonable expansion that has already taken place would never have been acceptable to many. The fact that further terminal expansion is already needed is proof that there is a very real future for a regional airport here on our doorstep, if this is failure, them I am sure many businesses would wlecome the same sort of "failure".

jayman wrote:
here is the qualifying factor of my opinion.

had Stobart/SBC proposed massive expansion to the airport. Upset a few golfers by expanding in a big and meaningful way. if (for instance) this had incorporated the cut and cover of the railway line and the road off warners bridge and the expansion of the runway north east and the widening of the runway to allow bigger medium to long hall planes, then (under these circumstances) I would have given it some credit for bold engineering and achievement. the public of Southend and Rochford would need to be compensated handsomely for the loss of property value and disruption under these conditions but at least it would have economic, long term merit, however the environmental impact would be extreme. the current situation is lacklustre, prohibitive to competition and rests its hole future on one or two models of what aviation will look like in the near future.

so, my honest 'grown up' opinion is Southend airport is vulnerable to change, to developed and established to incorporate future runway expansion and to closely populated to allow any future public support should any further growth be required other then stated.

of course I would love to see jobs and growth in Southend, but im a realist max.. And i wait for it to really happen before I get excited..

There are a few points here that I do tend to agree on; those being that the impression was given and expressed in and by the media, with no denial from the airport, that it was paramount that the extension to the runway should be completed and up and running by the time of the London Olympics. It was also stressed that the Airport Railway Station was also a key factor in offering a quick and efficient route directly to London Stratford and the Games for those flying in from the continent.
An impression was also bantered around that the close proximity of Southend to London as a whole and its link being, in the main, the airport would draw in extra visitors to our famous seaside resort over the period of the 2012 Olympic Games.
Even with the Mountain Bike event at Hadleigh I believe the bulk of the spectators will travel on the Fenchurch Street rail line and disembark at Benfleet or Leigh therefore not even getting a glimpse of our revamped airport and new station nor I believe will those same spectators take time to venture further down the line after the event to spend some time in Southend Town Centre or take a casual stroll along the sea front. I sadly feel that Southend like Greenwich and many other places who thought a little fame and fortune might come their way due to the Olympics should possibly except that this will not happen. Likewise I am not quite sure that the Airport is going to bring much prosperity to Southend as a whole but perhaps its early days and as I have said before………time will tell.

The airport said the Terminal would be ready, the airport said the runway would be ready, the airport said the station would be ready...

They all were.

The time between the airport coming back on stream and the games is just too short for airlines and Biz jet operators to see just how well the airport can work.

Why would they move from a known service to an unknown service, without seing the unknown operating for a bit more time to see just how well it can operate.

A number of the Southend hotels have said they have seen an increase in take up rates since the airport came back on line.

If people get off at Leigh or benfleet they would not see the airport anyway a sits on a dirrent line!

Max Impact wrote:
The airport said the Terminal would be ready, the airport said the runway would be ready, the airport said the station would be ready...

They all were.

The time between the airport coming back on stream and the games is just too short for airlines and Biz jet operators to see just how well the airport can work.

Why would they move from a known service to an unknown service, without seing the unknown operating for a bit more time to see just how well it can operate.

A number of the Southend hotels have said they have seen an increase in take up rates since the airport came back on line.

If people get off at Leigh or benfleet they would not see the airport anyway a sits on a dirrent line!

Max you wrote... ''If people get off at Leigh or benfleet they would not see the airport anyway a sits on a dirrent line! ''.......Max I realise that, that is why I made the point to mentioned the
Fenchurch Street Line. I did'nt think there was a need to explain the difference in line by name. I do not disagree with what you say the Airport said but it still remains that the impression was given at the time that the Airport and town in general would benifit from the runway extention and airport revamp being completed (as it was) on time as READY for the Olympics.
I also made remark in my last post that it was early days and time will tell.

Even with the Mountain Bike event at Hadleigh I believe the bulk of the spectators will travel on the Fenchurch Street rail line and disembark at Benfleet or Leigh therefore not even getting a glimpse of our revamped airport and new station /

Look at the FREE advertising both easyjet and the airport will get, the flights pass right over that spot more or less so all those watching might look up see the aircraft and use the services in the future, who knows might even get on TV!