Concern over shop selling ‘drug equipment’ in Shoebury (From Echo)

Is this another free advertisement, now every drug numnut in Essex is rushing down there for DIY drug starter kits.
Grozone we can make you happy

Grozone in Shoebury is no more..... C'mon, keep up!

They sell gardening equipment, what people then choose to grow is up to them, not the shop. If the shop was selling hemp seed then there might be an issue, oh wait, lets shut down every pet shop selling budgie seed….

"you must not grow cannabis with this equipment" Nudge nudge say no more
squire,know what I mean.

Nothing that Grozone sold was not freely available on the internet and such retail outlets are common throughout Europe.

I don't really see why the councillor would say "There needs to be a change in the law, because having this kind of thing in a residential shopping area appears to legitimise it.”. What "kind of thing"? She is entitled to her opinion but she really should stick to local issues. It IS legal and I see no reason why it should not be.

Much of what I consume these days is hydroponically grown, even my special cakes contain such produce. I am all in favour of it

I presume there's V.A.T. at some percentage levied on sales from these outlets and that it goes to the Treasury and that these outlets pay some level of business rates to local Councils?

Don't cut off vital taxes when the Country's gone to pot (pun intended) financially and Governments, both locally and Nationallyar telling us they have to cut their spending. Esecialy as what they are doing isn't against the law.

Russ13 Grozone is still there it has moved 5 doors down to a bigger shop.

Before everyone moans, are we going to stop the supermarkets from selling veg all year round as a lot of fruit and veg is grown hydropondically now adays to keep up with demand, all this shop sells is the same stuff Sainsbury, Asda, Tesco are allowed to use on a large scale.

"Let’s hope they don’t start selling the equipment needed to make heroin"

you mean poppy seeds, a knife, saucepan, cheesecloth, alcohol and a fridge? yes, god-forbid those items ever become available to the public!

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence....yeah. high five me shankovski

The simple fact of the matter is that all the items for sale in that shop, every other shop in the country (including thousands of online shops based in the UK) ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL TO MANUFACTURE AND SELL. Even Ebay with it's draconian censorship of selling anything that might just possibly be remotely harmful, has it all listed for sale! Even Cannabis seeds can be sold in the UK for souvenir purposes! The manufacturers, shops etc all pay tax towards the economy and as such have a right to trade and sell in this country.

Of course, the nanny state that is Great Britain could outlaw all forms of electrical lighting, gardening equipment and so on but then we'd all have no lights in our homes and, god forbid, no way of keeping the quintessential British pastime of gardening/indoor gardening going!

As for the fool of a Councillor speaking about heroin making equipment, does he not realise that Methamphetamine and many other drugs can be made from normal household products which are easily bought from supermarkets?

I know, lets all ban Asda, Tesco, Morrison's et al from selling these as well. Then we can all wrap ourselves up in cotton wool, shove our heads in the sand and hope the human race doesn't find other means of destroying itself.

At present, i can even buy every single individual item required to make a gun and all the ammunition as long as they are bought seperately. However, i don't as 1. to put them alltogether would be breaking the law and 2. i might then go and shoot someone. Wait a minute, why would i do that? I am generally a law abiding citizen so would never dream of it.

Get a grip!

the echo used to regularly advertise a pitsea hydroponic shop, including ads on the front page

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence....yeah. high five me shankovski

High five asbo, this is convenient for you isn't it, you can get all your growing gear at your end of the town now.
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Nothing illegal about any of the stuff they are selling, and lots of VAT etc for the taxman, no problem. Shame these small minded Councillors are motivated by prejudice, ignorance and political expediency rather than the truth.

I think this is the Conservative Council just trying to upset the Labour voting 'gardeners' of Southend. After all, Conservative voters wouldn't get their hands dirty 'gardening', would they? They only buy fresh from local suppliers.

Seriously - legalise cannabis (and eradicate a lot of dealers and, supposedly, drug related crime), restrict where it's smoked (the same as tobacco) and tax it (the same as tobacco). Then sit back and watch the crime figures fall along with the countries deficit.

they probably sell books as well, such titles as.

'how to bypass an electric meter'
'how to act when the police destroy your crop worth £32,000'
'how to be a scum bag'
'an idiots guide to starting a fire by overloading an extension lead'
'101 ways to dispose of cuttings'
'smelling like a sweaty tramp? how to hide the smell of cannabis'
'how to stop the voices in your head after years of smoking dope'
'how to be a scum bag vol 2'
'knuckle dusters, knives, guns and immigrants. how to defend your crop'

Yeah, probably. Its just a garden shop that sells lights and fans you prat.

artytoit wrote:
I think this is the Conservative Council just trying to upset the Labour voting 'gardeners' of Southend. After all, Conservative voters wouldn't get their hands dirty 'gardening', would they? They only buy fresh from local suppliers.

Seriously - legalise cannabis (and eradicate a lot of dealers and, supposedly, drug related crime), restrict where it's smoked (the same as tobacco) and tax it (the same as tobacco). Then sit back and watch the crime figures fall along with the countries deficit.

That would take imagination and fresh thinking from politicians, which they don't have. Add to that they're all sh1t scared of the Daily Mail, and things are not going to change.

SpaffSpiff84 wrote:
"Let’s hope they don’t start selling the equipment needed to make heroin"

you mean poppy seeds, a knife, saucepan, cheesecloth, alcohol and a fridge? yes, god-forbid those items ever become available to the public!

^ Very well said sir

Let us not forget the whole drive for organic foods, not every local has a garden with enough space to grow their own pesticide free food and the mere purchase of such equipment does not mean the intent to cultivate illegal drugs is there.

Please forward this story on to the daily mail, it's broad generalisations and hearsay fit right in.

God Almighty wrote:

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:
our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence....yeah. high five me shankovski

High five asbo, this is convenient for you isn't it, you can get all your growing gear at your end of the town now.
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Nothing illegal about any of the stuff they are selling, and lots of VAT etc for the taxman, no problem. Shame these small minded Councillors are motivated by prejudice, ignorance and political expediency rather than the truth.

kofi and macca are regulars don't you know. classic dopehead mentality (stupidity) - buying production equipment over the counter, getting followed home by the police and busted 6 months later for loft gardening....

this is not equipment for growth for personal consumption bearing in mind the average windowsill effort of a dope addict is, 9 times out of 10, a shriveled and dessicated specimen...bit like the average cannabis user's manhood.

aduksquack wrote:

artytoit wrote:
I think this is the Conservative Council just trying to upset the Labour voting 'gardeners' of Southend. After all, Conservative voters wouldn't get their hands dirty 'gardening', would they? They only buy fresh from local suppliers.

Seriously - legalise cannabis (and eradicate a lot of dealers and, supposedly, drug related crime), restrict where it's smoked (the same as tobacco) and tax it (the same as tobacco). Then sit back and watch the crime figures fall along with the countries deficit.

That would take imagination and fresh thinking from politicians, which they don't have. Add to that they're all sh1t scared of the Daily Mail, and things are not going to change.

grubbiness calleth unto grubbiness

Of course the equipment is for personal use, it is essential for successful growing of even 1 plant. you couldnt get a plant to produce thc without 18 hours a day direct sunlight. i don't know why you always mention windowsils, you wouldn't even get thc from a plant grown on a windowsil you moron, it would never bud

also how on earth would you know what the average marijuana user's penis looks like? something you're not telling us?

SpaffSpiff84 wrote:
Of course the equipment is for personal use, it is essential for successful growing of even 1 plant. you couldnt get a plant to produce thc without 18 hours a day direct sunlight. i don't know why you always mention windowsils, you wouldn't even get thc from a plant grown on a windowsil you moron, it would never bud

yep so all cannabis is grown indoors under lamps. righto

If it is to produce thc, yes

SpaffSpiff84 wrote:
If it is to produce thc, yes

kinda blows the "this is a naturally occurring plant" "used by the chinese 4000 years ago" bs out of the water. the reality is it's grown by illegal immigrants under artificial lighting. the natural stuff?...nah doesn't get me high!

Are you really this dense? It grows naturally in the middle east, spain, mexico, carribean, etc you absolute thicko, countries with hot climates and intense sunlight. The uk does not have sunlight hot enough to even make it develop fully so it needs artificial light to grow here. you insist on making your stupid comments on a subject you clearly dont even have basic understanding of

The answer is surely to require these shops to take and verify names and addresses of people coming into the shop, and then for the police to carry out spot checks on a random sample of those people. This would deter the cannabis growers, particularly if the courts apply proper penalties for growing and supplying drugs, not just a rap on the knuckles.
Cannabis and all drug suppliers are scum, and should be given severe prison sentences.

SpaffSpiff84 wrote:
Are you really this dense? It grows naturally in the middle east, spain, mexico, carribean, etc you absolute thicko, countries with hot climates and intense sunlight. The uk does not have sunlight hot enough to even make it develop fully so it needs artificial light to grow here. you insist on making your stupid comments on a subject you clearly dont even have basic understanding of

you're the one one who mops floors in a gym - you tell me. interested to know where on the planet gets 18 hours of sunlight? the uk's sun isn't strong enough - don't grow it here - simple.

eurodoomed wrote:
The answer is surely to require these shops to take and verify names and addresses of people coming into the shop, and then for the police to carry out spot checks on a random sample of those people. This would deter the cannabis growers, particularly if the courts apply proper penalties for growing and supplying drugs, not just a rap on the knuckles.
Cannabis and all drug suppliers are scum, and should be given severe prison sentences.

spot on. and yes the euro is doomed but the dollar might bite the dust first the way things are playing out.

Back on planet earth, maybe we should do random raids on people who own spoons too incase they are using them to use heroin with

eurodoomed wrote:
The answer is surely to require these shops to take and verify names and addresses of people coming into the shop, and then for the police to carry out spot checks on a random sample of those people. This would deter the cannabis growers, particularly if the courts apply proper penalties for growing and supplying drugs, not just a rap on the knuckles.
Cannabis and all drug suppliers are scum, and should be given severe prison sentences.

Yes, lock up the tobacconists, off-licencees, and publicans. They're peddling killer drugs and paraphernalia every day.

Oh I do love September!

beyond the valley of the asbos wrote:

SpaffSpiff84 wrote: Are you really this dense? It grows naturally in the middle east, spain, mexico, carribean, etc you absolute thicko, countries with hot climates and intense sunlight. The uk does not have sunlight hot enough to even make it develop fully so it needs artificial light to grow here. you insist on making your stupid comments on a subject you clearly dont even have basic understanding of

you're the one one who mops floors in a gym - you tell me. interested to know where on the planet gets 18 hours of sunlight? the uk's sun isn't strong enough - don't grow it here - simple.

Silly billy, you don't get 18 hours sun per day in the tropics, just stronger sun, and there are varieties that have been acclimatised to northern European weather which grow perfectly well in a UK greenhouse, go look at the UK websites legally selling seeds or visit this shop (most keep seeds too). Never seen all the plants on the barges in Amsterdam?