Rottweiler owner has sentence cut after Southend attack (From Echo)

This beggars belief.

has he been neutered and microchipped yet?

Eric Whim wrote:
has he been neutered and microchipped yet?

Rowan or the dog?

lets home someones dog takes a bite out of this idiot when he gets out, see how he likes it.

To be honest with you, Im surprised he even went to prison. Community orders are the norm these days. Even for murder.

Shame they didnt double the sentence which the judge could have done, but as usual our system is a disgrace !

Blind Haze wrote:

Eric Whim wrote: has he been neutered and microchipped yet?

Rowan or the dog?

the owner

This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

Are victims allowed to appeal against sentences that they think are too lenient, or is it only the guilty that have the right to appeal sentences.

Are the Courts, Criminal Justice System,Politicians and all the do gooder's pleased with the confidence the majority of folk have in the Criminal Law mockery we have these days.

Rich;Carol wrote:
This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

You just did!!!

Rich;Carol wrote:
This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

You just did!!!

And what reduction of sentence has been given to the little boy who was bitten by this person's dog.
This country is now a complete farce

Brunning999 wrote:
Are the Courts, Criminal Justice System,Politicians and all the do gooder's pleased with the confidence the majority of folk have in the Criminal Law mockery we have these days.

I suspect the politicians are just happy that the majority of folk keep voting for them...... Until people start voting for more extreme politics in large numbers they having nothing whatsoever to worry about..... Generally its not their kids being savaged by some chavs killing dog.....

This just proves how out of touch the judiciary really is!

If anyone remembers a Relation of the dog owner, who lives in Southend whom he was visiting whilst avoiding some individuals; wrote how 'He understands that he was in the wrong and is willing to take the courts verdict' or words to that effect.....funny how things turn out.......

I bet Judge Owen Davies feels a bit silly tonight being over ruled by his mates....wonder if he is thinking..'dunno why i bothered'.

Rich;Carol wrote:
This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

Trust you to be the first.

Apparently the Judges decided that this mans sentence was too harsh, as other dog owners who's dogs have attacked, have been treated more leniently. However, this case was totally different to the norm - this man ran off and wasn't found for months, causing extra expense, as the police were trying to find him. And he was only found because his mother turned him in to the police, which must have been very hard for her. And they say he had no prior warning that the dog was going to attack, but he was breaking the law letting the dogs on the beach off their leads. Plus the child was not just being mauled, he was being drowned. Because of his perjury- saying he helped, when everyone knew he just ran off - dragged everything out longer than necessary causing great upset to the grandmother who's heroism saved the little boy's life. After weighing all these things up, I can't see how they reached this conclusion. But I guess that's the end of it. He will sleep happily in his bunk tonight, knowing he's won. The little boy may need to have further operations as he grows until he is 18. There seems to be no recognition of this in the appeal judges granted reduction to this complete coward's original sentence which is no real deterrent for others to follow his example of complete irresponsibility and cowardice.

tatersalad wrote:

Rich;Carol wrote:
This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

Trust you to be the first.

It could be the fact that people have realised that racist remarks get the whole thread removed, which is no good for anyone.

Wonder if they would have lower his sentence if they had seen his Twitter page,where he has been tweeting from inside prison saying prison is not as bad as he thought it would be and that he's just been going to the gym everyday,what have prisons come to,TVs,PCs,mobile phones and radios all in there cells no wonder criminals re- offend, they should have a bed and toilet, no luxurys. I feel sorry for the boy and his family, scumbag

Rich;Carol wrote:
This is the first time ive not read any racist remarks. I thought because the dog owner is half English half African no one has made a comment. Well done, but the man should have got 5 years.

That's because the shade of this mans skin has about as much bearing on his sentence, as your posts do for sensible debate,- none!

For the record: I believe the sentence should have stood.

mark mcbride wrote:
Wonder if they would have lower his sentence if they had seen his Twitter page,where he has been tweeting from inside prison saying prison is not as bad as he thought it would be and that he's just been going to the gym everyday,what have prisons come to,TVs,PCs,mobile phones and radios all in there cells no wonder criminals re- offend, they should have a bed and toilet, no luxurys. I feel sorry for the boy and his family, scumbag

If true that is yet another reason why the do gooder's should hang their heads in shame, they are not protecting the people, just tne crims!

That's where the whole so called Criminal Justice System breaks down - Judges dish out weak sentences, then other Judges reduce them (or give community orders which are a joke in themselves) and when the offender, or to re-phrase that - the criminal! gets to prison it's like a hotel because do-gooders have insisted anything less infringes on their liberties. The USA have the right idea - make prisons places where you don't want to go back to, unfortunately all our politicians are spineless and afraid of upsetting the Court of Human Rights - dump them and toughen up!

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
To be honest with you, Im surprised he even went to prison. Community orders are the norm these days. Even for murder.

Nonsense. Please provide an example of when a murder hasn't incurred a custodial sentence.

BenfleetBarrel wrote:

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
To be honest with you, Im surprised he even went to prison. Community orders are the norm these days. Even for murder.

Nonsense. Please provide an example of when a murder hasn't incurred a custodial sentence.

Indeed.

The mandatory sentence for murder is Life, full stop!

b6947 wrote:
That's where the whole so called Criminal Justice System breaks down - Judges dish out weak sentences, then other Judges reduce them (or give community orders which are a joke in themselves) and when the offender, or to re-phrase that - the criminal! gets to prison it's like a hotel because do-gooders have insisted anything less infringes on their liberties. The USA have the right idea - make prisons places where you don't want to go back to, unfortunately all our politicians are spineless and afraid of upsetting the Court of Human Rights - dump them and toughen up!

If the USA has the right idea, why do they have the highest incarceration rate in the world?

2.3 million Americans are in prison, nearly 1 in 32 Americans are either in prison, on parole or on probation. This costs an estimated $60 billion annually and obviously doesn't serve as a deterrent. In what way do you think this is the right idea?

Chris Flunk wrote:

b6947 wrote: That's where the whole so called Criminal Justice System breaks down - Judges dish out weak sentences, then other Judges reduce them (or give community orders which are a joke in themselves) and when the offender, or to re-phrase that - the criminal! gets to prison it's like a hotel because do-gooders have insisted anything less infringes on their liberties. The USA have the right idea - make prisons places where you don't want to go back to, unfortunately all our politicians are spineless and afraid of upsetting the Court of Human Rights - dump them and toughen up!

If the USA has the right idea, why do they have the highest incarceration rate in the world? 2.3 million Americans are in prison, nearly 1 in 32 Americans are either in prison, on parole or on probation. This costs an estimated $60 billion annually and obviously doesn't serve as a deterrent. In what way do you think this is the right idea?

Agreed - the Chinese have a better way. Found guilty and you have a bullet in the back of the head within 5 minutes! Sorted!

It's very telling, the amount of people who castigate our own Criminal Justice Systems (and all its failings) whilst simultaneously championing the far more barbaric behavior of other Countries!

Soouthchurch59 wrote:
It's very telling, the amount of people who castigate our own Criminal Justice Systems (and all its failings) whilst simultaneously championing the far more barbaric behavior of other Countries!

System*

mark mcbride wrote:
Wonder if they would have lower his sentence if they had seen his Twitter page,where he has been tweeting from inside prison saying prison is not as bad as he thought it would be and that he's just been going to the gym everyday,what have prisons come to,TVs,PCs,mobile phones and radios all in there cells no wonder criminals re- offend, they should have a bed and toilet, no luxurys. I feel sorry for the boy and his family, scumbag

How much do prisoners have to pay for membership of the prison gym? Those of us who haven't committed any crimes have to pay £40/month.

The Judicial system stinks in this country!
Where is the justice?
Nobody really believes in these Hob Nobs anymore.
The laws need to be changed.

Great Britain is retrograde & needs to move forward. Stuffy!

Prison seems like an easy cop-out-make them work 16 hours a day, 7/7, with no reprieve.

Alec Cikes wrote:
The Judicial system stinks in this country!
Where is the justice?
Nobody really believes in these Hob Nobs anymore.
The laws need to be changed.

Great Britain is retrograde & needs to move forward. Stuffy!

Prison seems like an easy cop-out-make them work 16 hours a day, 7/7, with no reprieve.

They could be put to work building more prisons or extensions to the current ones, and they money they earn would go towards covering the cost of their board, lodging, gym membership and sky TV.

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