Pub could be forced to close (From Echo)

This is such a load of rubbish, Old Hat is certainly not known for drugs and unforuntunately, no matter where you go in Southend nowadays there are so called wannabe drug dealers. How about they raid the places that are clearly full of drugs on a weekly basis like the Sunrooms? This is a joke and it's our tax money paying for it! I also witnessed the raid at Mayhem nightclub and what a cherade that was!!! The police need to get a grip and focus on the fact that girls are getting raped & people are getting bottled in the face rather than targeting small businesses that cannot possibly body search every single person entering their premises. Or better still, why not target the drug dealers themselves with all their so-called knowledge rather than punish the premises in which they choose to operate?!

Surely the manager was entitled to inform customers that police were about to enter the premises. Some people have a fear of police and it is only right that they should not be taken by surprise. Had the police entered under the authority of a warrant I'm quite sure they wouldn't have hung around chatting with the door staff!

Druggie Scumbag wrote:
Surely the manager was entitled to inform customers that police were about to enter the premises. Some people have a fear of police and it is only right that they should not be taken by surprise. Had the police entered under the authority of a warrant I'm quite sure they wouldn't have hung around chatting with the door staff!

I make you right. The manager is providing an information service to his customers. What is the difference between "We shall be showing the football on the big screen in five minutes, if you prefer you could move to a table with a better view of the screen" and "The police are going to enter the bar in a minute so if you were thinking of doing anything illegal I suggest you leave or desist until they leave"?

I would be most unhappy if I was caught unawares in a compromising position with another customer in the knowledge that the manager could have forewarned me. In fact it a matter of crime prevention. What are the Old Bill complaining about?

close the place down straight away, & let is set as an example to other pubs that drug dealing cannot go on , & is just not acceptable!!

I think it must be a good manager. Obviously cares about the customers.

Looks like the police are getting serious about drugs. Well done.

Oh dear, I guess Chalky and the Watsons will have head back to the White Horse.

jantone wrote:
close the place down straight away, & let is set as an example to other pubs that drug dealing cannot go on , & is just not acceptable!!

May as well close every pub, bar and nightclub in southend then.....

pembury53 wrote:

jantone wrote:
close the place down straight away, & let is set as an example to other pubs that drug dealing cannot go on , & is just not acceptable!!

May as well close every pub, bar and nightclub in southend then.....

Dont know a pub in the UK that dont have drug users.

why was the manager tipping punters off before the polizi entered....seems he knew some might have something illegal about their person in which case allowing his place to be used by them....so maybe they where right about doing what they did....just a thought.

Looks like the pub manager condones drug taking by warning the customers. Very bad - drugs can kill, ruin families. The pub should lose its licence. My brother was killed outright on the road by a driver on drugs - and how many others.........

drugs were all over most pube 20years ago when i was a yoof, can t imagine much has changed. In fact probably just as previlant in resturants nowdays, a cheeky toot after your thai ,, and all that

DOH PUBS NOT PUBE

LOL

essexlady wrote:
Looks like the pub manager condones drug taking by warning the customers. Very bad - drugs can kill, ruin families. The pub should lose its licence. My brother was killed outright on the road by a driver on drugs - and how many others.........

Drugs don't kill people..............
Rappers do :)

FINALLY!!

mjordan89 wrote:
This is such a load of rubbish, Old Hat is certainly not known for drugs and unforuntunately, no matter where you go in Southend nowadays there are so called wannabe drug dealers. How about they raid the places that are clearly full of drugs on a weekly basis like the Sunrooms? This is a joke and it's our tax money paying for it! I also witnessed the raid at Mayhem nightclub and what a cherade that was!!! The police need to get a grip and focus on the fact that girls are getting raped & people are getting bottled in the face rather than targeting small businesses that cannot possibly body search every single person entering their premises. Or better still, why not target the drug dealers themselves with all their so-called knowledge rather than punish the premises in which they choose to operate?!

"Old Hat is not known for drugs"

ARE YOU HAVING A GIRAFFE???
ITS A CRACK DEN IN THERE!!!!

How about this.... The manager is more clued up than the Police. Doesn't condone drug use but is aware that it is impossible to completely eradicate them. (If the Police can't do it then how is a mere manger meant too)

If the Police find them on a suspect, then the bar loses its licence the manager loses their job!!!

Of course they would try take action to stop this happening.

pink oboe. wrote:

Druggie Scumbag wrote: Surely the manager was entitled to inform customers that police were about to enter the premises. Some people have a fear of police and it is only right that they should not be taken by surprise. Had the police entered under the authority of a warrant I'm quite sure they wouldn't have hung around chatting with the door staff!

I make you right. The manager is providing an information service to his customers. What is the difference between "We shall be showing the football on the big screen in five minutes, if you prefer you could move to a table with a better view of the screen" and "The police are going to enter the bar in a minute so if you were thinking of doing anything illegal I suggest you leave or desist until they leave"? I would be most unhappy if I was caught unawares in a compromising position with another customer in the knowledge that the manager could have forewarned me. In fact it a matter of crime prevention. What are the Old Bill complaining about?

What a load of rubbish. It's nothing like announcing the football is coming on!

The manager clearly knows there is wrongdoing going on so he's tipping off his customers. Sounds like a lovely clientele!

If I was sitting in a pub I wouldn't mind being taken by surprise by the police because I don't have anything illegal on me.

rjsizzler wrote:

pink oboe. wrote:

Druggie Scumbag wrote: Surely the manager was entitled to inform customers that police were about to enter the premises. Some people have a fear of police and it is only right that they should not be taken by surprise. Had the police entered under the authority of a warrant I'm quite sure they wouldn't have hung around chatting with the door staff!

I make you right. The manager is providing an information service to his customers. What is the difference between "We shall be showing the football on the big screen in five minutes, if you prefer you could move to a table with a better view of the screen" and "The police are going to enter the bar in a minute so if you were thinking of doing anything illegal I suggest you leave or desist until they leave"? I would be most unhappy if I was caught unawares in a compromising position with another customer in the knowledge that the manager could have forewarned me. In fact it a matter of crime prevention. What are the Old Bill complaining about?

What a load of rubbish. It's nothing like announcing the football is coming on!

The manager clearly knows there is wrongdoing going on so he's tipping off his customers. Sounds like a lovely clientele!

If I was sitting in a pub I wouldn't mind being taken by surprise by the police because I don't have anything illegal on me.

This is the trouble with the youth of today. They just don't appreciate good customer service.

I'll say one thing for you, sizzler, you're a shrewd operator. I too would have had my missus holding. NEVER hold gear yourself unless you're actually skinning up and then be prepared to jettison it. Good man!

Druggie Scumbag wrote:

rjsizzler wrote:

pink oboe. wrote:

Druggie Scumbag wrote: Surely the manager was entitled to inform customers that police were about to enter the premises. Some people have a fear of police and it is only right that they should not be taken by surprise. Had the police entered under the authority of a warrant I'm quite sure they wouldn't have hung around chatting with the door staff!

I make you right. The manager is providing an information service to his customers. What is the difference between "We shall be showing the football on the big screen in five minutes, if you prefer you could move to a table with a better view of the screen" and "The police are going to enter the bar in a minute so if you were thinking of doing anything illegal I suggest you leave or desist until they leave"? I would be most unhappy if I was caught unawares in a compromising position with another customer in the knowledge that the manager could have forewarned me. In fact it a matter of crime prevention. What are the Old Bill complaining about?

What a load of rubbish. It's nothing like announcing the football is coming on! The manager clearly knows there is wrongdoing going on so he's tipping off his customers. Sounds like a lovely clientele! If I was sitting in a pub I wouldn't mind being taken by surprise by the police because I don't have anything illegal on me.

This is the trouble with the youth of today. They just don't appreciate good customer service. I'll say one thing for you, sizzler, you're a shrewd operator. I too would have had my missus holding. NEVER hold gear yourself unless you're actually skinning up and then be prepared to jettison it. Good man!

That's outrageous, I'd never give it to the missus to hold.

I put it under the buggy; the Old Bill never look there.

jantone wrote:
close the place down straight away, & let is set as an example to other pubs that drug dealing cannot go on , & is just not acceptable!!

That's a bit dense. It's a good, friendly bar without many problems. I'd imagine that people would be rather annoyed if every boozer was closed because of people using recreational drugs!! Never seen a dealer in the old hat, doubt j ever will!

Spread 'em wrote:

mjordan89 wrote: This is such a load of rubbish, Old Hat is certainly not known for drugs and unforuntunately, no matter where you go in Southend nowadays there are so called wannabe drug dealers. How about they raid the places that are clearly full of drugs on a weekly basis like the Sunrooms? This is a joke and it's our tax money paying for it! I also witnessed the raid at Mayhem nightclub and what a cherade that was!!! The police need to get a grip and focus on the fact that girls are getting raped & people are getting bottled in the face rather than targeting small businesses that cannot possibly body search every single person entering their premises. Or better still, why not target the drug dealers themselves with all their so-called knowledge rather than punish the premises in which they choose to operate?!

"Old Hat is not known for drugs" ARE YOU HAVING A GIRAFFE??? ITS A CRACK DEN IN THERE!!!!

Lol It is certainly not a crack den, I think that's a tad extreme.. If people are doing drugs in there then hey, its just like the rest of southend. My point being, that there are more well known places in southend for drugs. I spend a lot of time in the Old Hat and never once have I been offered/witnessed anyone else being offered/seen people asking around for drugs and thats the point of the story. Not that people may be doing drugs in there but that there was someone with intent to supply... not their fault if you ask me!