Has Sadlers Farm left you baffled?

7:00pm Wednesday 3rd October 2012 in News

Has Sadlers Farm left you baffled? Has Sadlers Farm left you baffled?

NEW road signs have been installed on Sadlers Farm to help confused motorists better navigate the new layout - but have they left you confused?

Essex County Council has spent £63million transforming the infamous Benfleet roundabout in a bid to simplify the multi-roundabout junction and improve journey times.

Serious safety concerns were raised after drivers travelling along the Southend-bound A13 towards Canvey Way have been seen turning left into oncoming traffic by mistake leading to accidents.

We want to know if you have been confused or taken a wrong turn on the new layout at Sadlers Farm? You can also tell us your stories by leaving comments here.

 

Comments (50)

7:49pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bob7 says...

I travel towards the roundabout every day coming home from work. The logical route was left hand lane along the A13, over the new bridge, as the lane splits stay in the right hand lane. This would put you in the correct lane to go along London Road. Since two days ago if you do that you find you have moved over a lane so have to move back. People still don't understand about how to keep to the 50 and 30 speed limits which will also cause accidents.
I travel towards the roundabout every day coming home from work. The logical route was left hand lane along the A13, over the new bridge, as the lane splits stay in the right hand lane. This would put you in the correct lane to go along London Road. Since two days ago if you do that you find you have moved over a lane so have to move back. People still don't understand about how to keep to the 50 and 30 speed limits which will also cause accidents. bob7

7:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

whataday says...

Not only has it left me confused but several people who have visited the area from London have told me it is totally confusing. One person who used to live locally told me they thought signage was inadequate as was expected to guess that the two right hand lands approaching Sadlers from Pitsea A13 sent them off to turn right onto Canvey approach road instead of being able to follow roundabout and get onto Hadleigh bound A13
Anpother visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage.
Even living locally many people find it totally confusing and guesswork to know which lane to take.
Coming from A127 to Sadlers roundabout badly signposted as to when to branch off either right towards Londonbound A13 or left towards Hadleigh bound A13. What with roadworks and no lights potentially extremely dangerous.
Not only has it left me confused but several people who have visited the area from London have told me it is totally confusing. One person who used to live locally told me they thought signage was inadequate as was expected to guess that the two right hand lands approaching Sadlers from Pitsea A13 sent them off to turn right onto Canvey approach road instead of being able to follow roundabout and get onto Hadleigh bound A13 Anpother visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage. Even living locally many people find it totally confusing and guesswork to know which lane to take. Coming from A127 to Sadlers roundabout badly signposted as to when to branch off either right towards Londonbound A13 or left towards Hadleigh bound A13. What with roadworks and no lights potentially extremely dangerous. whataday

8:05pm Wed 3 Oct 12

BMNO6 says...

And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact.
And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact. BMNO6

8:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

pendulum says...

What people need to remember is if they get in the wrong lane, SODDING WELL STICK TO THAT LANE if you cannot change to the correct lane safely. Do not just bang an indicator on and force your way across. Take the wrong lane and then find a place to turn round safely. So annoying.
What people need to remember is if they get in the wrong lane, SODDING WELL STICK TO THAT LANE if you cannot change to the correct lane safely. Do not just bang an indicator on and force your way across. Take the wrong lane and then find a place to turn round safely. So annoying. pendulum

9:18pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Basildon.lad.21 says...

I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.
I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road. Basildon.lad.21

9:35pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bob7 says...

pendulum wrote:
What people need to remember is if they get in the wrong lane, SODDING WELL STICK TO THAT LANE if you cannot change to the correct lane safely. Do not just bang an indicator on and force your way across. Take the wrong lane and then find a place to turn round safely. So annoying.
Totally agree.
[quote][p][bold]pendulum[/bold] wrote: What people need to remember is if they get in the wrong lane, SODDING WELL STICK TO THAT LANE if you cannot change to the correct lane safely. Do not just bang an indicator on and force your way across. Take the wrong lane and then find a place to turn round safely. So annoying.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. bob7

9:41pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bob7 says...

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.
The rules of a roundabout usually are to enter and come off where you want to. This one is marked out with so called "dedicated lanes". Most of us by now know which lane goes where but the layout has been changed.
There is plenty of warning from Pitsea that two lanes go to the A130 and that two go on toward Sadlers. The problem I have is idiots who chose to ignore the speed limit and hurtle down the two lanes for Canvey and then push their way left to go to London Road. If everyone stuck to the speed limit they would have some thinking time to get into the correct lane.
[quote][p][bold]Basildon.lad.21[/bold] wrote: I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.[/p][/quote]The rules of a roundabout usually are to enter and come off where you want to. This one is marked out with so called "dedicated lanes". Most of us by now know which lane goes where but the layout has been changed. There is plenty of warning from Pitsea that two lanes go to the A130 and that two go on toward Sadlers. The problem I have is idiots who chose to ignore the speed limit and hurtle down the two lanes for Canvey and then push their way left to go to London Road. If everyone stuck to the speed limit they would have some thinking time to get into the correct lane. bob7

10:10pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Brunning999 says...

It is a massive improvement, faster and it works so STFU.
It is a massive improvement, faster and it works so STFU. Brunning999

10:39pm Wed 3 Oct 12

EssexPerson says...

Brunning999 wrote:
It is a massive improvement, faster and it works so STFU.
I'm sure people would moan over a loaf of bread if given the chance. It works a lot freaking better than the last layout which had exceeded it's design capacity. People were crying out for a new layout, we now have it. Stop moaning and learn to read signs or surrender your licence to the DVLA.
[quote][p][bold]Brunning999[/bold] wrote: It is a massive improvement, faster and it works so STFU.[/p][/quote]I'm sure people would moan over a loaf of bread if given the chance. It works a lot freaking better than the last layout which had exceeded it's design capacity. People were crying out for a new layout, we now have it. Stop moaning and learn to read signs or surrender your licence to the DVLA. EssexPerson

10:41pm Wed 3 Oct 12

EssexPerson says...

Sorry dont know why the quote is there, but I agree with what Brunning999 said.
Sorry dont know why the quote is there, but I agree with what Brunning999 said. EssexPerson

4:28am Thu 4 Oct 12

Shoot Ferals says...

Learn to drive and stop moaning.
Learn to drive and stop moaning. Shoot Ferals

7:30am Thu 4 Oct 12

Ian P says...

whataday says..."Another visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage" Only a few weeks ago there was an article in the Echo where someone was complaining that the signs were too big and devaluing his house. Now someone is complaining they are inadequate. I guess you cannot please all the people all the time.
whataday says..."Another visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage" Only a few weeks ago there was an article in the Echo where someone was complaining that the signs were too big and devaluing his house. Now someone is complaining they are inadequate. I guess you cannot please all the people all the time. Ian P

8:56am Thu 4 Oct 12

Doughnut says...

I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day.
I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day. Doughnut

9:25am Thu 4 Oct 12

johanuk says...

well, i have to say even though it has taken ages to construct, the junction is a huge improvement on the previous layout, where i often had to join an east-bound queue at Five Bells to access Canvey Way!!!!!!! The only major mistake i think is the very short slip road at the top of Canvey Way to join the A13--highly dangerous and so annoying as there is plenty of room there to make the slip road longer!!!!
well, i have to say even though it has taken ages to construct, the junction is a huge improvement on the previous layout, where i often had to join an east-bound queue at Five Bells to access Canvey Way!!!!!!! The only major mistake i think is the very short slip road at the top of Canvey Way to join the A13--highly dangerous and so annoying as there is plenty of room there to make the slip road longer!!!! johanuk

10:04am Thu 4 Oct 12

GentleGiant says...

There are two lanes that go from Pitsea to Benfleet at the roundabout.

The problem is that people ignore the ridiculously short inside lane and just use the outside one.

They then decide to cut across into the lane meant for the other lane.

The other confusing and stupid design is the one single ahead lane at tarpots. This is blocked by traffic turning right. The other lane is marked as ahead and then suddenly marked as left only.

The final stupid design (and maybe they will correct it) is the missing lane from the slip from the A1245 (old A130) coming from the A127 and joining the A130 going south. Traffic is forced over for about 50 yards when the lane starts again.
There are two lanes that go from Pitsea to Benfleet at the roundabout. The problem is that people ignore the ridiculously short inside lane and just use the outside one. They then decide to cut across into the lane meant for the other lane. The other confusing and stupid design is the one single ahead lane at tarpots. This is blocked by traffic turning right. The other lane is marked as ahead and then suddenly marked as left only. The final stupid design (and maybe they will correct it) is the missing lane from the slip from the A1245 (old A130) coming from the A127 and joining the A130 going south. Traffic is forced over for about 50 yards when the lane starts again. GentleGiant

11:00am Thu 4 Oct 12

APR says...

I just avoid it !
I just avoid it ! APR

11:12am Thu 4 Oct 12

dontgetmestarted says...

I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage dontgetmestarted

11:27am Thu 4 Oct 12

Chris Flunk says...

dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
That's because you are moving into the wrong lane on the roundabout, not them. There's is no 'A130 lane', traffic for the A130 uses the underpass. Both left lanes that join the roundabout from the A13 are valid for the use of traffic heading to Benfleet.

It's people like you that are making it a 'nightmare'.
[quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]That's because you are moving into the wrong lane on the roundabout, not them. There's is no 'A130 lane', traffic for the A130 uses the underpass. Both left lanes that join the roundabout from the A13 are valid for the use of traffic heading to Benfleet. It's people like you that are making it a 'nightmare'. Chris Flunk

11:38am Thu 4 Oct 12

BenfleetBarrel says...

As GentleGiant put it - there are two lanes for the A13 to progress onto the roundabout from Pitsea and then on to the two lanes down to Tarpots.
It's people who drift from the right lane on the A13 queue at the lights onto the left lane on the roundabout that cause problems.
This is made worse by the stupid left-only lane at Tarpots.
As GentleGiant put it - there are two lanes for the A13 to progress onto the roundabout from Pitsea and then on to the two lanes down to Tarpots. It's people who drift from the right lane on the A13 queue at the lights onto the left lane on the roundabout that cause problems. This is made worse by the stupid left-only lane at Tarpots. BenfleetBarrel

12:23pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Chris Flunk says...

dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
[quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology. Chris Flunk

1:21pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Eric Whim says...

have they fixed the 'dangerous road surface' now?

I only ask because it's been over week since we've had any (women) motorists crying about it and looking glum in the picture accomanpying their sob story.

Or has everyone realised that if you stick to the speed limit, and drive within your limitations rather than how you would on the wii box 360 connect, there's little, if any, chance of skidding about uncontrollably?
have they fixed the 'dangerous road surface' now? I only ask because it's been over week since we've had any (women) motorists crying about it and looking glum in the picture accomanpying their sob story. Or has everyone realised that if you stick to the speed limit, and drive within your limitations rather than how you would on the wii box 360 connect, there's little, if any, chance of skidding about uncontrollably? Eric Whim

1:29pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Rochford Rob says...

BMNO6 wrote:
And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact.
Good grief. You sound like a socialist. Maybe they should have given that 63 mil to the local council. Great idea - Sadlers Farm would still be that - a farm and all the money wasted elsewhere. I think the best people qualified for Civil Engineering projects are er......Civil Engineers. And as we all know, Council Jobsworths are rarely ever civil to their employers - us.

Plus, I'd wager that road signage is the responsibility of the Highways Dept. which is council / state run. Oh Gawd, now you'll blame the coaltion and their evil 'cuts'
[quote][p][bold]BMNO6[/bold] wrote: And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact.[/p][/quote]Good grief. You sound like a socialist. Maybe they should have given that 63 mil to the local council. Great idea - Sadlers Farm would still be that - a farm and all the money wasted elsewhere. I think the best people qualified for Civil Engineering projects are er......Civil Engineers. And as we all know, Council Jobsworths are rarely ever civil to their employers - us. Plus, I'd wager that road signage is the responsibility of the Highways Dept. which is council / state run. Oh Gawd, now you'll blame the coaltion and their evil 'cuts' Rochford Rob

1:35pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Rochford Rob says...

BMNO6 wrote:
And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact.
Good grief. You sound like a socialist. Maybe they should have given that 63 mil to the local council. Great idea - Sadlers Farm would still be that - a farm and all the money wasted elsewhere. I think the best people qualified for Civil Engineering projects are er......Civil Engineers. And as we all know, Council Jobsworths are rarely ever civil to their employers - us.

Plus, I'd wager that road signage is the responsibility of the Highways Dept. which is council / state run. Oh Gawd, now you'll blame the coaltion and their evil 'cuts'
[quote][p][bold]BMNO6[/bold] wrote: And all for 63m ! you know it makes sense LMAO, public money going to a private company, "we are all in this together" well that road design must have been the idea of an idiot, fact.[/p][/quote]Good grief. You sound like a socialist. Maybe they should have given that 63 mil to the local council. Great idea - Sadlers Farm would still be that - a farm and all the money wasted elsewhere. I think the best people qualified for Civil Engineering projects are er......Civil Engineers. And as we all know, Council Jobsworths are rarely ever civil to their employers - us. Plus, I'd wager that road signage is the responsibility of the Highways Dept. which is council / state run. Oh Gawd, now you'll blame the coaltion and their evil 'cuts' Rochford Rob

1:55pm Thu 4 Oct 12

blahblahcanvey says...

Please, carry on. This is bloody amazing.

IT'S JUST A ROUNDABOUT!
Please, carry on. This is bloody amazing. IT'S JUST A ROUNDABOUT! blahblahcanvey

2:25pm Thu 4 Oct 12

tac123 says...

If all of you are too stupid to read road signs and drive within the speed limits then you should send your licence back to the DVLA, there is nothing wrong with this junction, it's layout or its signage! I've read people moaning about this junction for two years; get a grip and learn to drive!
If all of you are too stupid to read road signs and drive within the speed limits then you should send your licence back to the DVLA, there is nothing wrong with this junction, it's layout or its signage! I've read people moaning about this junction for two years; get a grip and learn to drive! tac123

2:46pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Basildon.lad.21 says...

dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
Typical woman. Learn to drive you idiot.
[quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]Typical woman. Learn to drive you idiot. Basildon.lad.21

2:48pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Basildon.lad.21 says...

bob7 wrote:
Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.
The rules of a roundabout usually are to enter and come off where you want to. This one is marked out with so called "dedicated lanes". Most of us by now know which lane goes where but the layout has been changed.
There is plenty of warning from Pitsea that two lanes go to the A130 and that two go on toward Sadlers. The problem I have is idiots who chose to ignore the speed limit and hurtle down the two lanes for Canvey and then push their way left to go to London Road. If everyone stuck to the speed limit they would have some thinking time to get into the correct lane.
Yeah I do that too. Im not sitting in that long tailback of traffic. Try it yourself, its much easier.
[quote][p][bold]bob7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Basildon.lad.21[/bold] wrote: I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.[/p][/quote]The rules of a roundabout usually are to enter and come off where you want to. This one is marked out with so called "dedicated lanes". Most of us by now know which lane goes where but the layout has been changed. There is plenty of warning from Pitsea that two lanes go to the A130 and that two go on toward Sadlers. The problem I have is idiots who chose to ignore the speed limit and hurtle down the two lanes for Canvey and then push their way left to go to London Road. If everyone stuck to the speed limit they would have some thinking time to get into the correct lane.[/p][/quote]Yeah I do that too. Im not sitting in that long tailback of traffic. Try it yourself, its much easier. Basildon.lad.21

3:19pm Thu 4 Oct 12

PJR-121 says...

Doughnut wrote:
I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day.
So non-locals were not confused when confronted with five small roundabouts based around one big roundabout? How many accidents were there on the old layout?

The new layout is different. We've had the old one for decades, and locals were used to it. Give it time - people had to give the old layout time and now everyone is moaning that it's gone!
[quote][p][bold]Doughnut[/bold] wrote: I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day.[/p][/quote]So non-locals were not confused when confronted with five small roundabouts based around one big roundabout? How many accidents were there on the old layout? The new layout is different. We've had the old one for decades, and locals were used to it. Give it time - people had to give the old layout time and now everyone is moaning that it's gone! PJR-121

6:32pm Thu 4 Oct 12

whataday says...

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.
Thats the problem its not just a roundabout. You can't navigate it in the usal way because if you do it turns you off towards Canvey. If it followed normal roundabout process there would not be a problem
[quote][p][bold]Basildon.lad.21[/bold] wrote: I really dont see how people find this confusing. Its just a roundabout for god sake. If you cant navigate your way around a roundabout, or read signs, you really shouldnt be on the road.[/p][/quote]Thats the problem its not just a roundabout. You can't navigate it in the usal way because if you do it turns you off towards Canvey. If it followed normal roundabout process there would not be a problem whataday

6:34pm Thu 4 Oct 12

maddriver says...

PJR-121 wrote:
Doughnut wrote:
I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day.
So non-locals were not confused when confronted with five small roundabouts based around one big roundabout? How many accidents were there on the old layout?

The new layout is different. We've had the old one for decades, and locals were used to it. Give it time - people had to give the old layout time and now everyone is moaning that it's gone!
Have to agree that the new layout is a sight better than the old mini-roundabout system. There are few hold-ups now and if everyone sticks to the rules there will be far less chances of accidents occurring.
[quote][p][bold]PJR-121[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doughnut[/bold] wrote: I think most of us locals have worked out which lane to be in. Non locals are confused and are getting in the wrong lanes, then adjusting at the last minute. I guarantee there's gonna be a huge pileup one day.[/p][/quote]So non-locals were not confused when confronted with five small roundabouts based around one big roundabout? How many accidents were there on the old layout? The new layout is different. We've had the old one for decades, and locals were used to it. Give it time - people had to give the old layout time and now everyone is moaning that it's gone![/p][/quote]Have to agree that the new layout is a sight better than the old mini-roundabout system. There are few hold-ups now and if everyone sticks to the rules there will be far less chances of accidents occurring. maddriver

6:35pm Thu 4 Oct 12

whataday says...

Ian P wrote:
whataday says..."Another visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage" Only a few weeks ago there was an article in the Echo where someone was complaining that the signs were too big and devaluing his house. Now someone is complaining they are inadequate. I guess you cannot please all the people all the time.
The person that was complaining was talking about signage on other side of the road i.e. coming from A127 towards Sadlers Farm
[quote][p][bold]Ian P[/bold] wrote: whataday says..."Another visitor from London coming along same approach ended up being on A127 and into Southend due to inadequate signage" Only a few weeks ago there was an article in the Echo where someone was complaining that the signs were too big and devaluing his house. Now someone is complaining they are inadequate. I guess you cannot please all the people all the time.[/p][/quote]The person that was complaining was talking about signage on other side of the road i.e. coming from A127 towards Sadlers Farm whataday

6:38pm Thu 4 Oct 12

whataday says...

APR wrote:
I just avoid it !
Think you have the safest idea
[quote][p][bold]APR[/bold] wrote: I just avoid it ![/p][/quote]Think you have the safest idea whataday

6:47pm Thu 4 Oct 12

mudslinger says...

every friday night for the past three weeks there has been a smash on the aproach to saddlers, the road is well signposted, its so much better than it used to be. unfortunately there are too many people who just dont have a clue about driving sensibly and safely. i have seen too many of them realising they are in the wrong lane and pulling over at the last moment, i have also seen people turning left and ending up travelling the wrong way up the a13 instead of going straight on to canvey.
if you cant negotiate a perfectly good junction then you shouldnt be driving.
every friday night for the past three weeks there has been a smash on the aproach to saddlers, the road is well signposted, its so much better than it used to be. unfortunately there are too many people who just dont have a clue about driving sensibly and safely. i have seen too many of them realising they are in the wrong lane and pulling over at the last moment, i have also seen people turning left and ending up travelling the wrong way up the a13 instead of going straight on to canvey. if you cant negotiate a perfectly good junction then you shouldnt be driving. mudslinger

6:52pm Thu 4 Oct 12

naffeville says...

It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right
It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right naffeville

7:59pm Thu 4 Oct 12

saarfender says...

naffeville wrote:
It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right
The old layout, before any works started, only signposted Southend as via A130/A127. There were no signs for Southend via A13 (it's congested enough through that residential area, without non-locals being directed through there instead of using the main trunk road of A127).
[quote][p][bold]naffeville[/bold] wrote: It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right[/p][/quote]The old layout, before any works started, only signposted Southend as via A130/A127. There were no signs for Southend via A13 (it's congested enough through that residential area, without non-locals being directed through there instead of using the main trunk road of A127). saarfender

10:25pm Thu 4 Oct 12

DogsMessInLeigh says...

i always get in the wrong lane, so just bang on the indicator and false my way across to the lane i want, its easy enough to do. and it beats ending up in Canvey when you want to go to Leigh.
i always get in the wrong lane, so just bang on the indicator and false my way across to the lane i want, its easy enough to do. and it beats ending up in Canvey when you want to go to Leigh. DogsMessInLeigh

11:12pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Thecountrysgonetopot! says...

I must say i used the roundabout for the 1st time in a week today and noticed they have changed the road markings. As they have not yet put the lettering down when i came from Benfleet to go round to A130 i ended up 3 lanes from the exit off the roundabout as the lane i have been using for the past 2mnths had changed. Im not complaining its just an observation and tomorrow i will ensure i remember what lane i should be in. The new layout of the whole area is now brilliant, i never get stuck on the A130 towards saddlers farm anymore, i for one am quite pleased
I must say i used the roundabout for the 1st time in a week today and noticed they have changed the road markings. As they have not yet put the lettering down when i came from Benfleet to go round to A130 i ended up 3 lanes from the exit off the roundabout as the lane i have been using for the past 2mnths had changed. Im not complaining its just an observation and tomorrow i will ensure i remember what lane i should be in. The new layout of the whole area is now brilliant, i never get stuck on the A130 towards saddlers farm anymore, i for one am quite pleased Thecountrysgonetopot!

9:38am Fri 5 Oct 12

raybar249 says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car? raybar249

11:48am Fri 5 Oct 12

Chris Flunk says...

raybar249 wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?
I didn't comment on the idiot on the mobile. I never drive while using a mobile. Would you like to retract that libelous statement?
[quote][p][bold]raybar249[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?[/p][/quote]I didn't comment on the idiot on the mobile. I never drive while using a mobile. Would you like to retract that libelous statement? Chris Flunk

1:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12

z0mbee says...

Chris, I can only assume you Flunked legal school. You should brush up on what does and does not constitute libel before bringing out the angst.
Chris, I can only assume you Flunked legal school. You should brush up on what does and does not constitute libel before bringing out the angst. z0mbee

5:17pm Fri 5 Oct 12

naffeville says...

saarfender wrote:
naffeville wrote: It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right
The old layout, before any works started, only signposted Southend as via A130/A127. There were no signs for Southend via A13 (it's congested enough through that residential area, without non-locals being directed through there instead of using the main trunk road of A127).
What does that matter, Southend is signposted all way down A13 from London? It doesnt matter how many people live there, its still the A13 towards Southend and they should signpost it corectly. The A127 is also congested
[quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]naffeville[/bold] wrote: It should say Southend A127 right, southend A13 left, not just Southend right[/p][/quote]The old layout, before any works started, only signposted Southend as via A130/A127. There were no signs for Southend via A13 (it's congested enough through that residential area, without non-locals being directed through there instead of using the main trunk road of A127).[/p][/quote]What does that matter, Southend is signposted all way down A13 from London? It doesnt matter how many people live there, its still the A13 towards Southend and they should signpost it corectly. The A127 is also congested naffeville

1:16pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Happylass says...

I hate Sadlers Farm Roundabout and never use it (unless I'm in the bus going to Basildon) even in that you are tossed from side to side as the approach on the roundabout is so uneven! I now drive along Essex Way to Hadleigh Roundabout, Rayleigh Weir and then to Pitsea via Pound Lane turning right at the end and either shop in Tescos or go to Basildon or Lakeside. I return via A127 to Rayleigh Weir and back home. I reminded my sister in Kent about the changes and she came along the A130 and ended up in Chelmsford some months ago! She was forced into that lane by the speeding traffic.
I hate Sadlers Farm Roundabout and never use it (unless I'm in the bus going to Basildon) even in that you are tossed from side to side as the approach on the roundabout is so uneven! I now drive along Essex Way to Hadleigh Roundabout, Rayleigh Weir and then to Pitsea via Pound Lane turning right at the end and either shop in Tescos or go to Basildon or Lakeside. I return via A127 to Rayleigh Weir and back home. I reminded my sister in Kent about the changes and she came along the A130 and ended up in Chelmsford some months ago! She was forced into that lane by the speeding traffic. Happylass

4:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12

r6keith says...

Happylass wrote:
I hate Sadlers Farm Roundabout and never use it (unless I'm in the bus going to Basildon) even in that you are tossed from side to side as the approach on the roundabout is so uneven! I now drive along Essex Way to Hadleigh Roundabout, Rayleigh Weir and then to Pitsea via Pound Lane turning right at the end and either shop in Tescos or go to Basildon or Lakeside. I return via A127 to Rayleigh Weir and back home. I reminded my sister in Kent about the changes and she came along the A130 and ended up in Chelmsford some months ago! She was forced into that lane by the speeding traffic.
Please take this the way it is written but maybe you should be called hopeless and your sister more hopeless than hopeless ! Where was your sister supposed to be going ? If she was coming to you somewhere in Benfleet from Kent why was she on the A130 ?
[quote][p][bold]Happylass[/bold] wrote: I hate Sadlers Farm Roundabout and never use it (unless I'm in the bus going to Basildon) even in that you are tossed from side to side as the approach on the roundabout is so uneven! I now drive along Essex Way to Hadleigh Roundabout, Rayleigh Weir and then to Pitsea via Pound Lane turning right at the end and either shop in Tescos or go to Basildon or Lakeside. I return via A127 to Rayleigh Weir and back home. I reminded my sister in Kent about the changes and she came along the A130 and ended up in Chelmsford some months ago! She was forced into that lane by the speeding traffic.[/p][/quote]Please take this the way it is written but maybe you should be called hopeless and your sister more hopeless than hopeless ! Where was your sister supposed to be going ? If she was coming to you somewhere in Benfleet from Kent why was she on the A130 ? r6keith

12:02pm Thu 11 Oct 12

echostretch says...

Would it not be the most logical thing to install all the lighting first and get that operational? that way drivers could read the signs that have been installed as well as making it safer to negotiate the lane changes and cones, it would also allow the contractors to work longer in well lit conditions and maybe just maybe they might then be able to finish ahead of schedule.
Would it not be the most logical thing to install all the lighting first and get that operational? that way drivers could read the signs that have been installed as well as making it safer to negotiate the lane changes and cones, it would also allow the contractors to work longer in well lit conditions and maybe just maybe they might then be able to finish ahead of schedule. echostretch

2:32pm Mon 15 Oct 12

dontgetmestarted says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
That's because you are moving into the wrong lane on the roundabout, not them. There's is no 'A130 lane', traffic for the A130 uses the underpass. Both left lanes that join the roundabout from the A13 are valid for the use of traffic heading to Benfleet.

It's people like you that are making it a 'nightmare'.
no i am not using the wrong lane, i use the lane for benfleet, off course there is a lane for A130 or how else would cars that havent travelled up the A13 get onto the A130???? They use this lane nearly hit the island and pull back out onto the roundabout, therefore if you believe there is no lane for A130 i class u as one of the nightmares!!!!!!!!!!
!1
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]That's because you are moving into the wrong lane on the roundabout, not them. There's is no 'A130 lane', traffic for the A130 uses the underpass. Both left lanes that join the roundabout from the A13 are valid for the use of traffic heading to Benfleet. It's people like you that are making it a 'nightmare'.[/p][/quote]no i am not using the wrong lane, i use the lane for benfleet, off course there is a lane for A130 or how else would cars that havent travelled up the A13 get onto the A130???? They use this lane nearly hit the island and pull back out onto the roundabout, therefore if you believe there is no lane for A130 i class u as one of the nightmares!!!!!!!!!! !1 dontgetmestarted

2:35pm Mon 15 Oct 12

dontgetmestarted says...

Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
no i will not be phoning them back he was the one in the wrong not me and i stand by everything i have said!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]no i will not be phoning them back he was the one in the wrong not me and i stand by everything i have said!!! dontgetmestarted

2:41pm Mon 15 Oct 12

dontgetmestarted says...

raybar249 wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?
Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about
[quote][p][bold]raybar249[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?[/p][/quote]Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about dontgetmestarted

2:43pm Mon 15 Oct 12

dontgetmestarted says...

Basildon.lad.21 wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
Typical woman. Learn to drive you idiot.
Get a life, i have had a full CLEAN licence for longer than you have been out of nappies little boy!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Basildon.lad.21[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]Typical woman. Learn to drive you idiot.[/p][/quote]Get a life, i have had a full CLEAN licence for longer than you have been out of nappies little boy!!!! dontgetmestarted

4:04pm Mon 15 Oct 12

raybar249 says...

dontgetmestarted wrote:
raybar249 wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?
Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about
Perhaps you should read my comment again., I was actually defending you!
[quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raybar249[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?[/p][/quote]Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about[/p][/quote]Perhaps you should read my comment again., I was actually defending you! raybar249

12:43am Thu 1 Nov 12

dontgetmestarted says...

raybar249 wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
raybar249 wrote:
Chris Flunk wrote:
dontgetmestarted wrote:
I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage
What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.
Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?
Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about
Perhaps you should read my comment again., I was actually defending you!
I appologise raybar249 I didnt see your name at the top when i originally read ur comment and thought it was from chris flunk who had been on my comments and he was accusing me of using my mobile, u are probably right it probably was him.
[quote][p][bold]raybar249[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raybar249[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris Flunk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dontgetmestarted[/bold] wrote: I avoid sadlers as much as poss now its a nightmare!!! The way the lanes from the new bridge progress onto the actual roundabout is ridiculous, numerous times now I've cars come up the inside of me (shorter lane towards a130) who wanted to go towards Benfleet and have then cut across in front of me and only just missed hitting me, 2 occassions stick to mind more than others firstly. A van that obviously didn't use his mirrors causing me to stop suddenly and nearly be hit by the car behind me unfortunate for him the company name and number were displayed on the van so his boss had a very irate woman on the phone and secondly a complete div who did the same thing but was more interested in the mobile phone call he was making and he had the cheek to shout abuse at me when he was in the wrong for more than 1 reason. Its a complete nightmare and needs better signage[/p][/quote]What makes me really cross about this is that you have jeopardised the poor van driver's livelihood because of your own inability to read a road sign. I hope you phone the company back and make an apology.[/p][/quote]Ok, so what about the idiot that is using the mobile phone whilst driving. As far as I knew, isnt that now an offence. Perhaps it was you driving that car?[/p][/quote]Now an offence?? it has been an offence for years that carries points and a fine so if you believe it is only now an offence perhaps you should reread the highway code and resit your test as you obviously dont know what you are talking about[/p][/quote]Perhaps you should read my comment again., I was actually defending you![/p][/quote]I appologise raybar249 I didnt see your name at the top when i originally read ur comment and thought it was from chris flunk who had been on my comments and he was accusing me of using my mobile, u are probably right it probably was him. dontgetmestarted

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