A 14-year-old cyclist was struck by a car in Queensway, Southend

4:50pm Thursday 11th October 2012 in News By Emma Thomas

14-year-old girl left with broken knee after being hit by car in Southend 14-year-old girl left with broken knee after being hit by car in Southend

A TEENAGE girl was left with a broken knee after she was hit by a car.

Grandmother Brenda Forrester told how tragedy struck her family twice in the same afternoon.

Her granddaughter, Jordan Kiley, 14, was out searching for a group of boys who had mugged her 13-year-old brother, Ricky, and stolen his Blackberry on Sunday, October 7, when she was struck by a car.

She was crossing the roundabout at the Queensway junction, near to Enterprise Rentacars and the junction with Southchurch Road, at about 7.10pm when she was hit by the black Vauxhall Astra.

Mrs Forrester said: “She didn’t want to go down into the underpass, most of the kids her ago go over the top because they don’t like the underpass. She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights. The man tried to stop.

“All she saw was lights and the next thing she was on the floor. She was thrown in the air.”

Jordan was treated by paramedics at the roadside then taken to Southend Hospital suffering from head injuries. At the hospital it was discovered she had two fractures to her knee. She was kept in overnight and has now been allowed back to her home in Southend with her whole leg in plaster.

Mrs Forrester added: “They put her on the children’s ward and her mum has been with her since Sunday.

“She was so lucky with her head though. She is so careful, I don’t understand what made her do that.”
 

Comments (27)

5:33pm Thu 11 Oct 12

APR says...

Unfortunate accident.

I wouldn't call the theft of a mobile phone a tragedy though.
Unfortunate accident. I wouldn't call the theft of a mobile phone a tragedy though. APR

5:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

APR says...

Unfortunate accident., although what would she had done if she'd found the "muggers" ?

I wouldn't call the theft of a mobile phone a tragedy.
Unfortunate accident., although what would she had done if she'd found the "muggers" ? I wouldn't call the theft of a mobile phone a tragedy. APR

5:41pm Thu 11 Oct 12

armyboy16 says...

kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch
kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch armyboy16

5:58pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Olivia2847 says...

armyboy16 wrote:
kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch
Exactly, however I hope she recovers soon .......
[quote][p][bold]armyboy16[/bold] wrote: kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch[/p][/quote]Exactly, however I hope she recovers soon ....... Olivia2847

6:19pm Thu 11 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

armyboy16 wrote:
kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch
That underpass is a mugger/rapist's paradise. No locals will use it.


Hope Jordan mends soon.
[quote][p][bold]armyboy16[/bold] wrote: kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch[/p][/quote]That underpass is a mugger/rapist's paradise. No locals will use it. Hope Jordan mends soon. aduksquack

6:38pm Thu 11 Oct 12

beyond the valley of the asbos says...

aduksquack wrote:
armyboy16 wrote:
kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch
That underpass is a mugger/rapist's paradise. No locals will use it.


Hope Jordan mends soon.
oh how many rapes have occurred there?
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]armyboy16[/bold] wrote: kind of her own fault for not using the underpass, and i'd love to see what she would of done if she found the boys, would of been funny to watch[/p][/quote]That underpass is a mugger/rapist's paradise. No locals will use it. Hope Jordan mends soon.[/p][/quote]oh how many rapes have occurred there? beyond the valley of the asbos

6:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12

bongking says...

god what a s--t world we live in, no one is safe!!
god what a s--t world we live in, no one is safe!! bongking

9:45pm Thu 11 Oct 12

saarfender says...

I wish the girl a speedy recovery.

From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights."

1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient.

2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....
I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes.... saarfender

10:52am Fri 12 Oct 12

reptile says...

Now you know cycling is dangerous.
Now you know cycling is dangerous. reptile

11:19am Fri 12 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

reptile wrote:
Now you know cycling is dangerous.
No it isn't.
[quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: Now you know cycling is dangerous.[/p][/quote]No it isn't. aduksquack

12:57pm Fri 12 Oct 12

ShoeburyGuy17 says...

That underpass is dreadful once darkness falls. Somalian dealers, Drunks, Homeless Drug Addicts, all habitat this area. I don't use it after 7PM it's far too risky. I've had a hoodie try to mug me down there- he tripped over and I legged it!
I have read in the echo a few times of rape incidents occurring down there too.

Just take a visit to it during the say and see the leftovers of last nights inhabitants. Alcohol bottles & Cans, Urine and Vomit are just a few of the pleasures.

***
I'm a cyclist myself, I cycle on the roads when safe to do so. It's all too common that cars will edge you onto the pavement. I've been knocked off my bike several times by inconsiderate drivers. Bloody Drivers!!

**
I'm glad you're alright, Jordan. Nothing too serious!
Get well soon!
That underpass is dreadful once darkness falls. Somalian dealers, Drunks, Homeless Drug Addicts, all habitat this area. I don't use it after 7PM it's far too risky. I've had a hoodie try to mug me down there- he tripped over and I legged it! I have read in the echo a few times of rape incidents occurring down there too. Just take a visit to it during the say and see the leftovers of last nights inhabitants. Alcohol bottles & Cans, Urine and Vomit are just a few of the pleasures. *** I'm a cyclist myself, I cycle on the roads when safe to do so. It's all too common that cars will edge you onto the pavement. I've been knocked off my bike several times by inconsiderate drivers. Bloody Drivers!! ** I'm glad you're alright, Jordan. Nothing too serious! Get well soon! ShoeburyGuy17

1:51pm Fri 12 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

saarfender wrote:
I wish the girl a speedy recovery.

From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights."

1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient.

2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....
Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.
[quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....[/p][/quote]Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike. aduksquack

6:23pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Joe Wildman says...

There is a footbridge a hundred ft or so further down Queensway, if people don't want to bother walking down to it and risk crossing the road than it's their responsibility as to want happens.

Not sure if there is enough room to put a footbridge at the spot this preventable accident happened.

Another point the "Echo Comment" saying the road is not safe becaus eof two accidents in two days how many cars go round safely without accident each and every day?
There is a footbridge a hundred ft or so further down Queensway, if people don't want to bother walking down to it and risk crossing the road than it's their responsibility as to want happens. Not sure if there is enough room to put a footbridge at the spot this preventable accident happened. Another point the "Echo Comment" saying the road is not safe becaus eof two accidents in two days how many cars go round safely without accident each and every day? Joe Wildman

6:34pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Joe Wildman says...

aduksquack wrote:
saarfender wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....
Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.
I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue.

There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity.
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....[/p][/quote]Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.[/p][/quote]I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue. There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity. Joe Wildman

6:35pm Fri 12 Oct 12

saarfender says...

Joe Wildman says...
6:23pm Fri 12 Oct 12
There is a footbridge a hundred ft or so further down Queensway, if people don't want to bother walking down to it and risk crossing the road than it's their responsibility as to want happens.


FOOTBRIDGE. This incident happened to a cyclist. We wouldn't want comments re cyclists on footbridges now, would we?
Joe Wildman says... 6:23pm Fri 12 Oct 12 There is a footbridge a hundred ft or so further down Queensway, if people don't want to bother walking down to it and risk crossing the road than it's their responsibility as to want happens. FOOTBRIDGE. This incident happened to a cyclist. We wouldn't want comments re cyclists on footbridges now, would we? saarfender

6:44pm Fri 12 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

Joe Wildman wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
saarfender wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....
Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.
I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue.

There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity.
I'd like to see motorists who flout the law pursued that vigorously too.
Get caught speeding, first offence £1000 fine.
Caught second time £5000 fine.
Third time car taken and crushed.

Caught parking illegally, fined £1000.
Second time fined £5000
Third time, car taken and crushed.


Etc.
[quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....[/p][/quote]Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.[/p][/quote]I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue. There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity.[/p][/quote]I'd like to see motorists who flout the law pursued that vigorously too. Get caught speeding, first offence £1000 fine. Caught second time £5000 fine. Third time car taken and crushed. Caught parking illegally, fined £1000. Second time fined £5000 Third time, car taken and crushed. Etc. aduksquack

7:18pm Fri 12 Oct 12

reptile says...

aduksquack wrote:
reptile wrote:
Now you know cycling is dangerous.
No it isn't.
Oh yes it is!
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: Now you know cycling is dangerous.[/p][/quote]No it isn't.[/p][/quote]Oh yes it is! reptile

8:46pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Joe Wildman says...

aduksquack wrote:
Joe Wildman wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
saarfender wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....
Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.
I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue. There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity.
I'd like to see motorists who flout the law pursued that vigorously too. Get caught speeding, first offence £1000 fine. Caught second time £5000 fine. Third time car taken and crushed. Caught parking illegally, fined £1000. Second time fined £5000 Third time, car taken and crushed. Etc.
Agree.

They should also do the same with pedestrians...who walk on the cycle lane, well prehaps crushing is a tad too drastic, spaank their bottys in public. Then again it mught be a heffa lump. Ewww!

Hope to replace my bike next weekend with a nice new Trek Lush 29, been saving up for six months to get it.
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe Wildman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saarfender[/bold] wrote: I wish the girl a speedy recovery. From the article, "She was crossing over the top, she got off the bike and as she turned saw the lights." 1) If she was on a bike, then that explains the fact she couldn't use the underpass. Last time I looked it was a no-cycling zone. Not that I'd use it as a pedestrian either, I always walk on the roundabout as it's much safer and more convenient. 2) As a cyclist, it's safer to keep riding than get off and walk. When cycling you're part of the traffic and not a hazard; unless you're on a road the Council made less pleasant by painting inadequate cycle lanes....[/p][/quote]Don't get me started on Southend Council and their cycle farcilities. Have you seen what some council moron has done to the cycle path in Victoria Avenue? Surfaced it with loose gravel. Good luck stopping or turning on that without coming off your bike.[/p][/quote]I'd like to see a crack down on the cyclists that seem to think Eastern Esplande is their own exclusive cycle route, I have no issue with those on the offical cycle path but when they ride three a breast using the pedestrian footpath that is when it becomes an issue. There is no denying that there are bad drivers on the road that said you can not deny that there are also bad cyclists on the road, all too often you see them jump red lights, you see them riding up and down the High Street, yes they can be fined now but why not make it a three strikes system, get stopped three times, get stopped again you loose your bike, say £250 to get it back with a daily storage fee on top of £10 per day if the fine is not paid in full after 30days its given to charity.[/p][/quote]I'd like to see motorists who flout the law pursued that vigorously too. Get caught speeding, first offence £1000 fine. Caught second time £5000 fine. Third time car taken and crushed. Caught parking illegally, fined £1000. Second time fined £5000 Third time, car taken and crushed. Etc.[/p][/quote]Agree. They should also do the same with pedestrians...who walk on the cycle lane, well prehaps crushing is a tad too drastic, spaank their bottys in public. Then again it mught be a heffa lump. Ewww! Hope to replace my bike next weekend with a nice new Trek Lush 29, been saving up for six months to get it. Joe Wildman

9:39am Sat 13 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

I'm serious.

When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked.


Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.
I'm serious. When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked. Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all. aduksquack

10:33am Sat 13 Oct 12

reptile says...

aduksquack wrote:
I'm serious.

When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked.


Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.
So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: I'm serious. When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked. Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that. reptile

12:48pm Sat 13 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

reptile wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
I'm serious.

When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked.


Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.
So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.
Prove your argument. Or STFU.
[quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: I'm serious. When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked. Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.[/p][/quote]Prove your argument. Or STFU. aduksquack

5:22pm Sat 13 Oct 12

reptile says...

aduksquack wrote:
reptile wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
I'm serious.

When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked.


Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.
So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.
Prove your argument. Or STFU.
"Just admit you lost" or JAYL.
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: I'm serious. When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked. Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.[/p][/quote]Prove your argument. Or STFU.[/p][/quote]"Just admit you lost" or JAYL. reptile

5:43pm Sat 13 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

reptile wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
reptile wrote:
aduksquack wrote:
I'm serious.

When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked.


Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.
So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.
Prove your argument. Or STFU.
"Just admit you lost" or JAYL.
You have no evidence to support you argument. You have no argument.

So, as usual, you have nothing intelligent to contribute to the debate.
[quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: I'm serious. When the £1000 fine for smoking on trains and stations was brought in it worked. Currently drivers only face a mild slap on the wrist for flouting the the law. Zero tolerance of speeding etc. is the way forward for safer roads for all.[/p][/quote]So you are saying smokers obey the law but cyclists don't, I can agree on that.[/p][/quote]Prove your argument. Or STFU.[/p][/quote]"Just admit you lost" or JAYL.[/p][/quote]You have no evidence to support you argument. You have no argument. So, as usual, you have nothing intelligent to contribute to the debate. aduksquack

6:32pm Sat 13 Oct 12

reptile says...

I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite.
I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite. reptile

7:00pm Sat 13 Oct 12

aduksquack says...

reptile wrote:
I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite.
As I said. You have nothing intelligent to contribute. What a sad little person you are. I pity you.
[quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite.[/p][/quote]As I said. You have nothing intelligent to contribute. What a sad little person you are. I pity you. aduksquack

7:17pm Sat 13 Oct 12

reptile says...

aduksquack wrote:
reptile wrote:
I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite.
As I said. You have nothing intelligent to contribute. What a sad little person you are. I pity you.
Go to bed, and I'm not little.
[quote][p][bold]aduksquack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reptile[/bold] wrote: I forgot what the argument was, I just like to see you bite.[/p][/quote]As I said. You have nothing intelligent to contribute. What a sad little person you are. I pity you.[/p][/quote]Go to bed, and I'm not little. reptile

9:23pm Mon 15 Oct 12

v.randy says...

This is gangland southend.
Young gangs looking for blood.
Give Jeremy Kyle a call on his chav hot line.
This is gangland southend. Young gangs looking for blood. Give Jeremy Kyle a call on his chav hot line. v.randy

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